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Translation help[edit]

The "Mazu Cultural Palace" in Songjiang's Fangta Park, where you can get free soy milk and youtiao if you show up at the right times.

Since you were kind/foolish enough to have your name on this list, here's a note that I could use some help with the mess of Mazu temples in Shanghai. There were three; the first two were destroyed; the third got moved to Songjiang and rebuilt; and then as of 2014 Zhabei was considering rebuilding their old one. So:

If you have time and interest for any, some, or all of that, great and please leave a note here saying so. I'm asking all the listed Chinese translators for help, so we wouldn't want anyone needlessly duplicating work. — LlywelynII 02:42, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Possibly, but it won't be in the next few days; I think I might not be able to get to it until next Sunday. If someone else is interested, let him/her have a crack at it... Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 03:32, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
@LlywelynII: I still like to be helpful, but I think it's a bit challenging for me. Can you break it down to chunks, and see if there is a particular passage you'd like me to translate? I think I'd work better that way (in a subject that is not an area of my expertise, in particular). --Nlu (talk) 16:42, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind words and interest in being helpful, but, eh, it already is chunked. If it's mafan or nothing caught your eye, that's fine and anything important'll get added sooner or later. — LlywelynII 11:38, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
OK, sorry. I will take another look when I get a chance, but the article has some disputable facts. I guess what I would do is, when I have time, start translating the paragraphs one by one and then let you deal with it editorially? --Nlu (talk) 16:58, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
@LlywelynII: I think what I'm going to do is to try to translate it one paragraph at a time, and deposit the translated paragraphs into User:Nlu/sandbox/Tianfei Palace (Songjiang). Feel free to go ahead then plug them in, or to wait until I am done. (Although, I hope, based on just the first three paragraphs, which I am hoping to be done this afternoon, but then might not be able to revisit for a couple days, that this article cannot be simply adopted into the text due to its argumentative nature and use of language.) --Nlu (talk) 00:40, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
@LlywelynII: Added another paragraph. --Nlu (talk) 17:20, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

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Happy CNY! I have created Talk:Wu_Zetian#Requested_move_3_February_2017. I think "Wu Zetian" as a title is very similar to Li Houzhu, Meng Houzhu etc. Timmyshin (talk) 01:09, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Can you help verify translations of articles from Chinese[edit]

Hello Nlu,

Would you be able to help evaluate the accuracy of translations of Wikipedia articles from Chinese to English Wikipedia?

This would involve evaluating a translated article on the English Wikipedia by comparing it to the original Chinese article, and marking it "Pass" or "Fail" based on whether the translation faithfully represents the original. Here's the reason for this request:

There are a number of articles on English Wikipedia that were created as machine translations from different languages including Chinese , using the Content Translation tool, sometimes by users with no knowledge of the source language. The config problem that allowed this to happen has since been fixed, but this has left us with a backlog of articles whose accuracy of translation is suspect or unknown, including some articles translated from Chinese. In many cases, other editors have come forward later to copyedit and fix any English grammar or style issues, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the translation is accurate, as factual errors from the original translation may remain. To put it another way: Good English is not the same as good translation.

If you can help out, that would be great. Here's a sample of the articles that need checking:

All you have to do, is compare the English article to the Chinese article, and mark it "Pass" or "Fail" (templates {{Pass}} and {{Fail}} may be useful). (Naturally, if you feel like fixing an inaccurate translation and then marking it "Pass", that's even better, but it isn't required.)

If you can help, please let me know. Thanks! Mathglot (talk) 21:58, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Sure - when I have time. I've already taken a look at Cheng Yun-Peng, which looks all right. Where do you want me to mark it as {{Pass}}? --Nlu (talk) 22:05, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
In fact, all three you referenced here look fine. I don't immediately see any real inaccuracies. --Nlu (talk) 22:06, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Great, thanks! Can I send you three more? Mathglot (talk) 09:05, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Sure. Thank you for your work. --Nlu (talk) 14:17, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Great; Here you are:
* Yichang BRT
* Yituanheqi
* Zeng Fengnian
Thanks again! Mathglot (talk) 05:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Yichang BRT was really awful in style - which I think I've fixed. But there was one place of ambiguity that I am unable to resolve from the Chinese article, which I've put a {{which}} template there to see if someone will clarify. --Nlu (talk) 14:57, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Fixed Yituanheqi, but someone with more background in art and/or philosophy will have to be the one deciding whether the article title is even proper (or should be changed to a translated title). --Nlu (talk) 15:03, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Zeng Fengnian looks fine on first look. --Nlu (talk) 15:03, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks again for your efforts. Can I send you a few more? If you add a {{ping|Mathglot}} to your message, I'll be notified when you respond. Mathglot (talk) 07:10, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Sure. Thanks. @Mathglot:. --Nlu (talk) 13:13, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Categories for discussion[edit]

Hi Nlu, just want to let you know that many categories you've created about the Sixteen Kingdoms have been nominated for deletion/merging at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 June 5#Sixteen Kingdoms. The nominator should have notified you about the discussion, but seems to have forgotten to do so. Regards, -Zanhe (talk) 02:41, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Lý Thuần An[edit]

Can you please take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lý Thuần An? The sources are in my view suspect. Timmyshin (talk) 11:58, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Category:People from Alsace executed by guillotine during the French Revolution‎ has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:People from Alsace executed by guillotine during the French Revolution‎, which you created, has been nominated for possible merging. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:31, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Li Jiancheng for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Li Jiancheng is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Li Jiancheng until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. O1lI0 (talk) 13:53, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Wiccan rede[edit]

Hi could you help me trabslate the Wiccan rede article into Chinese? I would really appreciate it. so far we have this: 翻譯: 您應該相信威卡的教規﹐用誠實和真誠的愛來信 但凡事都得饒處且饒人﹐你附出多少便應得多少 由北開始畫三個圓的圈﹐把所有妖魔鬼怪全除去 如果你想咒語變成現實﹐用順序或特殊音節念出 以柔制剛切勿意氣用事﹐靜心聆聽切勿大發謀論 美麗的月亮漸漸地變圓﹐大家開開心心跳舞歌唱 每逢新月之夜都是初一﹐大家歡歡氣氣一同慶祝 每逢月圓之夜都是十五﹐大家誠心誠意來許個願 每當北風呼呼地吹來時﹐門窗要鎖好帆布要落下 每逢南風呼呼地吹來時﹐心愛的人熱情地親親你 每當西風呼呼地吹來時﹐靈魂們趁機會起來活動 每逢東風呼呼地吹來時﹐豐富的大餐迎接新開始 九種不同的樹木放入鼎﹐猛猛地燃燒慢慢地燃燒 接骨樹是代表神聖女神﹐如燒接骨樹會被追咒的 當節日輪盤開始轉動時﹐沃爾帕吉斯夜燒篝火炬 當節日輪盤轉到冬至時﹐燃點起火炬迎潘皇再生 照顧好大自然花草樹木﹐神聖女神送幸福給人們 石頭水中拋前程就可知﹐用漣漪多少遠近看前程 如果要實現願望或理想﹐絕不可貪心或不責手段 不應該浪費寶貴的時間﹐結識一些不成實的朋友 見面和離別也同樣快樂﹐面頰紅紅的心情要愉快 記緊因果關係輪回三次﹐三次幸運或是三次災難 如不幸遇到災難降臨時﹐把藍色的星星戴在頭上 人人都要做到坦誠相見﹐除非他人全心欺編真成 威卡的教規八字真言是﹐「為所欲為傷人不為」 翻譯 更重要的是巫师或巫师的13个目标 认识你自己 了解我们的艺术 学习和成长 用智慧应用知识 达到平衡 保持你的话顺序 保持你的想法 庆祝生活 调整到地球的周期 保持身体健康 锻炼你的身体 沉思 尊重女神和上帝 is it translated right? (talk) 14:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

I am not sure when I'll have time to do so, but I can take a look. Can you give me a link to the English article? --Nlu (talk) 15:24, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Here it is in English: Bide within the Law you must, in perfect Love and perfect Trust. Live you must and let to live, fairly take and fairly give.

For tread the Circle thrice about to keep unwelcome spirits out. To bind the spell well every time, let the spell be said in rhyme. Light of eye and soft of touch, speak you little, listen much. Honor the Old Ones in deed and name, let love and light be our guides again. Deosil go by the waxing moon, chanting out the joyful tune. Widdershins go when the moon doth wane, and the werewolf howls by the dread wolfsbane. When the Lady's moon is new, kiss the hand to Her times two. When the moon rides at Her peak then your heart's desire seek. Heed the North winds mighty gale, lock the door and trim the sail. When the Wind blows from the East, expect the new and set the feast. When the wind comes from the South, love will kiss you on the mouth. When the wind whispers from the West, all hearts will find peace and rest. Nine woods in the Cauldron go, burn them fast and burn them slow. Birch in the fire goes to represent what the Lady knows. Oak in the forest towers with might, in the fire it brings the God's insight. Rowan is a tree of power causing life and magick to flower. Willows at the waterside stand ready to help us to the Summerland. Hawthorn is burned to purify and to draw faerie to your eye. Hazel-the tree of wisdom and learning adds its strength to the bright fire burning. White are the flowers of Apple tree that brings us fruits of fertility. Grapes grow upon the vine giving us both joy and wine. Fir does mark the evergreen to represent immortality seen. Elder is the Lady's tree burn it not or cursed you'll be. Four times the Major Sabbats mark in the light and in the dark. As the old year starts to wane the new begins, it's now Samhain. When the time for Imbolc shows watch for flowers through the snows. When the wheel begins to turn soon the Beltane fires will burn. As the wheel turns to Lamas night power is brought to magick rite. Four times the Minor Sabbats fall use the Sun to mark them all. When the wheel has turned to Yule light the log the Horned One rules. In the spring, when night equals day time for Ostara to come our way. When the Sun has reached it's height time for Oak and Holly to fight. Harvesting comes to one and all when the Autumn Equinox does fall. Heed the flower, bush, and tree by the Lady blessed you'll be. Where the rippling waters go cast a stone, the truth you'll know. When you have and hold a need, harken not to others greed. With a fool no season spend or be counted as his friend. Merry Meet and Merry Part bright the cheeks and warm the heart. Mind the Three-fold Laws you should three times bad and three times good. When misfortune is enow wear the star upon your brow. Be true in love this you must do unless your love is false to you. (talk) 22:25, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Any update? (talk) 01:37, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

After some thought, I think I must, with apology, decline. Religious doctrines are tricky to translate, and I do not feel comfortable doing so in this instance given my lack of familiarity with the particular doctrines. --Nlu (talk) 06:55, 18 November 2017 (UTC) prrrizzoo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:12, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Emperor names[edit]

I'd like your opinion on Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Chinese)#Personal names for Southern and Northern Dynasties period emperors. Timmyshin (talk) 03:56, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

I have submitted a move discussion at Talk:Emperor Gong of Sui. Timmyshin (talk) 00:17, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
I added another bunch at Talk:Emperor Jing of Western Liang. Xiao Yi and Xiao Gang should be there too, but there are currently other people with these names and I haven't made up my mind. Thanks in advance. Timmyshin (talk) 16:32, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

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Category:Ambassadors from Anhui has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Ambassadors from Anhui, which you created, has been nominated for renaming to Category:Diplomats from Anhui‎. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:04, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Note this discussion covers 25 similar categories, most (or maybe all) of which were created by you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:07, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Ten Kingdoms again[edit]

Talk:Wu (Ten Kingdoms)#Requested move 25 June 2018 Thanks Timmyshin (talk) 03:31, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Editing a webpage[edit]

Dear Nlu,

I'm part of the European Young Chemists' Network ( In order to reach to a higher audience we've planned to translate the wikipedia article of our association to several languages, including chinese. We've even translated the text through a native friend ( but I've tried and failed to upload the content since I haven't been able to surf the chinese version of wikipedia, even less edit it. If you don't mind and have some time we'll be really pleased if you can upload the translated content for us.

Thanks for your time!


Diego ∽∽∽∽ — Preceding unsigned comment added by DiegoGG1985 (talkcontribs) 15:04, 10 October 2018 (UTC)