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Thanks for Ngati Haua[edit]

Thanks for the heads up on this iwi -I was unaware there were 2 separate(?) iwi with the same name.I presume they were at one time linked? I know other iwi like Rangitane are widely scattered-this seems to have happened in the Musket wars mainly. Any further info you can add? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.62.226.243 (talk) 09:47, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Can you refresh my memory about where I gave a heads-up about this/these iwi. I can't readily recall what edits I made about this. Nurg (talk) 19:11, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

For the wikivoyage answer! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:45, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

CSA Illumina retired ?[edit]

Hi, I responded over at the ProQuest / CSA talk page here, about seven months after your query. The wheels of Wikipedia rotate slowly, at times, but at least they're movin'. --- Steve Quinn (talk) 07:34, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Typos[edit]

Thanks for fixing those links! Tony (talk) 09:29, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

No worries, Tony, spelling is important when it comes to links. Winks. Nurg (talk) 09:49, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Bitcoin[edit]

I think using the currency identifier "USD" is more appropriate in this situation than the country identifier "US". The "$" is too ambiguous. it can be used to denote the Peso, Brazilian real, Cape Verdean escudo, etc. I don't think that I'm 100% right, but my opinion is that the original edit should remain. --WikiTryHardDieHard (talk) 17:56, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. It doesn't say just "$". It says "US$", which is not ambiguous and is the usage specified at Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Currencies. Nurg (talk) 19:46, 5 December 2013
Oh ok. Carry on. --WikiTryHardDieHard (talk) 21:16, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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Where to now?[edit]

Following Gisborne, do you have any ideas or suggestions about where we go now regarding the regions articles? I learned my lesson about combining discussions—won't do that again. I was considering perhaps a suggestion to move West Coast Region back to "West Coast, New Zealand". Or would "West Coast (New Zealand region)" be better? I'm not sure. Your discovery of the evidence that "Gisborne Region" was a legal name gives me pause as well. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:07, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Glad you dropped by - I was going to check with you what you planned next, in case a prelim discussion would be useful. If you proposed "West Coast, New Zealand", I would support that, unless new info or arguments came up. In fact, I think I would support "comma New Zealand" for a number of others that require disambiguation. I think Naming conventions (geographic names)#Disambiguation would rule out the "West Coast (New Zealand region)" form, as not the first preference. There are a couple of regions that might not need disamb and could possibly go to the simple name, like Otago did. There are a couple that need disamb but where the comma would not work, IMO, because the main part of the region name is the same as the main urban area - these are Wellington and Auckland. Not sure yet what I think should happen with these two - possibly even stay as they are. Nurg (talk) 10:34, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Are you comfortable for me to just proceed one-by-one?—I agree that there are some others (Northland, Southland?) which could use the "comma New Zealand" format, but given the complications that arose in the other situation, I'm a bit wary to combine discussions. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:16, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I'm comfortable with you proceeding one by one. Nurg (talk) 09:04, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Thx. FYI, discussion is here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:24, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Volkner incident[edit]

Hi Nurg, It's good to see someone helping to improve this article. What the article badly needs, however, is more inline citations. Presumably you're extracting your details from a book or website, so it would be very good to include the citations as you go. Thanks. BlackCab (talk) 02:36, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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For your recent tiding-up.

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2010 Queenstown suppressed indecency case[edit]

In light of recent discussion on a certain biographical article, allow me to draw your attention to stub article 2010 Queenstown suppressed indecency case. It may be possible to discuss on the new article's talk page whether to name the alleged perpetrator and the correct way to do so. Nankai (talk) 09:41, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Internet Party and MANA Movement[edit]

Thank you for your previous comments on this article's name. I have proposed to rename this article at Talk:Internet_Party_and_MANA_Movement. I invite your input. Ground Zero | t 15:43, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Ferries in Wellington[edit]

Hmmm, that deletion is a bit strange, so far as I'm aware until global warming is better underway Wellington is all above the waterline and so above ferry level. Do you mean ferries that visit wellington? Then don't you think you'd do better if you put your deletion back?

You want to talk about Wellington Harbour Ferries don't you but don't wipe out the Wellington Ferry that went from Lyttelton to Wellington and back. Are you youngish and living in Wellington? Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 13:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

The Union Company article covers the Wellington–Lyttelton ferry. Nurg (talk) 08:44, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Then would you mind if I change the name of this article to Wellington Harbour Ferries? Ferries in Wellington is a bad name, specially the unexpected way in which you understand it. Eddaido (talk) 01:28, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
"Wellington Harbour Ferries" with capitals is not correct, because it is not a proper name. "Wellington harbour ferries" and "Wellington Harbour ferries" are not so bad. But it is not just about the vessels, so maybe "Ferry transport in Wellington Harbour" is better, like Ferry transport in Berlin. But then maybe we should follow the Berlin pattern and have "Ferry transport in Wellington". I suggest using the Wikipedia:Requested moves process if you want to change the name, because that opens it up for discussion. That is what I have done for Talk:Public transport in Wellington#Requested move 6 February 2015, even though I think that is a more straightforward change. Nurg (talk) 09:52, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Terminal boredom here. Good luck, Eddaido (talk) 11:36, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
What's happening? I see it is still your foolishly misleading name for the article. Eddaido (talk) 04:22, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

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North Shore Air[edit]

All information provided by me regarding North Shore Air and the North Shore Aero Club (parent organization)were provided by the Aero Club. simply email and you will find out that the airline is defunct and folded in October 2015. All other information was provided by the now defunct website of the airline. Thanks. Slick1nz 09.49, 19 November 2015 —Preceding undated comment added 20:50, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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Canadian Checkers rename[edit]

Curious on the basis that you think you know "Checkers" w/b lowercase in game name "Canadian Checkers"? ("Canadian is capitalised, checkers is not" is ambiguous, what do you mean? The two words constitute a game name, not a prose expression.) Curious to understand your rationale for the changes you made. IHTS (talk) 22:14, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

None of the other draughts variants have "checkers" or "draughts" capitalised. Nor is "checkers" or "draughts" capitalised at the draughts article. It seems to me that "checkers" and "draughts" are common nouns, including when part of a variant game. Is there anything to the contrary in the WP:MOS or other project pages? Nurg (talk) 22:47, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Well, I'm not sure the other draughts variant article titles are correct. I understand that the words "checkers" and "draughts" representing a family of related games aren't capitalized, those are not specific game names rather game family names. It seems to me that words "checkers" and "draughts" are common nouns too, but not when part & parcel to a game name. And it seems to me that a game name is synonymous to game title. (For example, "galaxy" is a common noun. Yet the galaxy is referred to properly as "Andromeda Galaxy" not "Andromeda galaxy". So game names like "Alice Chess" and "Chinese Checkers" and "Canadian Checkers" seems to me should follow that same pattern, do you disagree?) I'm not 100% sure but I don't think the MOS is advanced enough or really has anything specific enough to address what we are discussing here. The game name is presented as "Canadian Checkers" in at least these two sources: New Rules for Classic Games by R. Wayne Schmittberger (p. 171), and The New Games Treasury by Merilyn Mohr (p. 49). (And I think MOS does say something about titles being presented consistent with how they are majorly presented in published sources; do you know of any published sources that present the game name "Canadian checkers"?)

I'd love to open a thread at MOS on this, but I'm not confident I can generate enough expert interest on the topic to settle the matter for WP, for consistency because the same issue affects many many article names and references to game names. That's part of the reason I'm here collecting your thoughts/reasons, since I think that discussion s/b opened sometime. (I've specific interest since I created articles Wildebeest Chess, Rhombic Chess, Wolf Chess, Cross Chess, Double Chess, Beirut Chess, Hostage Chess, Canadian Checkers, and others. I also created chess variant article Balbo's Game, are you of the position it s/b "Balbo's game" as game name/article title? And again, what about your position re "Chinese Checkers" [many many sources present the game name in caps], "Alice Chess" [ditto], Grand Chess [ditto, this game is even often referred to as "GC"], and "Andromeda Galaxy"? This seems to be a complex topic though for reasons of consistency with other names I didn't bring up here (for example "bullet chess" is the name or title of a game format or a game title that is lowercase due to popular use?; and "shogi" and and many others are specific game names/titles too but are lowercase; and "Chess960 is a specific game name/title too that is not a manufacturer's proprietary property or trademark but is uppercase; the great game Go has name represented "Go" not "go", however, this seems to be a special decision at that article's Talk page whose main reason is I believe that the consensus didn't want to confuse readers with the common verb "go" - which I think was a poor decision at least it isn't consistent with other game names like "chess", "shogi", "xiangqi", etc., which are traditional games too but all lowercase, and I'm not sure anything in MOS was helpful to them since the game name appears both ways in different major sources; and I've seen representations in sources three ways for this specific game name when used in prose: "International draughts", "International Draughts", and "international draughts".) IHTS (talk) 04:52, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

This is an interesting and (as you say) complex topic. I shall give it some further thought. Nurg (talk) 07:49, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
Thx. IHTS (talk) 16:45, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

User:Nurg/Australia-New Guinea[edit]

I noticed an old draft you have at User:Nurg/Australia-New Guinea for Australia (continent). Has that content be merged into the article? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:14, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

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Ageline is not the first article I created. I didn't create it and it is not even an article - it's a redirect. I don't see why the redirect should be deleted. Never mind, I see someone has removed the tag. Nurg (talk) 22:32, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Cook Islands[edit]

Should Cook Islands categories be included in New Zealand categories? See Category:Fauna of New Zealand. Goustien (talk) 02:56, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

No. The Cook Islands, Niue, Tokelau and Ross Dependency are not part of the country of New Zealand, though they are part of the Realm of New Zealand, which is not the same as the country of New Zealand. I'll fix the categories. Nurg (talk) 08:27, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

link[edit]

Hope you don't mind. This way we dodge nofollow. Acer (talk) 21:31, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Auckland council[edit]

Can you please stop undoing my edits. It really annoys me when i put all my effort on providing correct information in wiki and someone trys to change my edits. Please just let other people have the freedom of editing and stop vandalising other peoples edit. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jvfmgnlllj (talkcontribs) 07:36, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks again Rob13. Nurg (talk) 04:28, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

NZTA external links on New Zealand State Highway articles[edit]

Hi Nurg, I noticed you removed the external link on New Zealand State Highway 1 and New Zealand State Highway 27. I recently a few months ago included this link on all state highway articles in the External Links section - for the reason of consistency as it appeared on many of them already. I'm not sure how relevant it is to continue to have this EL, but to be fair if we decide to remove them on two pages, we ought to for the rest, or none at all. Please let me know your thoughts. Ajf773 (talk) 10:12, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Ajf773, thanks for making contact. My understanding is that where we have a WP article on an organisation, we link to that article, rather than linking to the org's homepage. So, generally, only the article about the org will have the ext link to its homepage. The state highway articles usually have a link to NZ Transport Agency in the body or infobox, so that's all we want. If NZTA had a page about a specific state highway, then a deep link to that page might well but appropriate, but they don't as far as I'm aware. I can't find a policy about preferring internal links to external links, but point #19 at WP:LINKSTOAVOID is relevant. So, I think we should remove links to the NZTA homepage from all the state highway articles. (The deep link I updated in the Ext links section of New Zealand state highway network is good though, I think.) Cheers, Nurg (talk) 08:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Mentor[edit]

Hello,

I have admired your works on Wikipedia. I am new to the site and was wondering if you could be my mentor? I know that this is a long shot, but based on your edits we have similar interests and knowledge. This would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Coolwikieditor (talk) 15:54, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

I don't know if I would be a good mentor for you, but if you have any questions for me, feel free to ask. If you find I am not a good mentor for you, you might find a better mentor through Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user. Nurg (talk) 09:51, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

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I hate editor like you[edit]

I really do not like editors like you, big talk and little content. While the article is still in development, as long as there are no copyright issues, do not discourage other contributors. Renzut —Preceding undated comment added 08:27, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

My intent is to improve articles. I don't understand why you feel discouraged. It is not my intent to discourage you, and I'm sorry you feel that way. It is normal to discuss content if there is any disagreement. Nurg (talk) 09:40, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for The Plague[edit]

You did it in 2015, but I'd like to thank you for expanding the article on The Plague when it was nominated for deletion. I was saddened recently when I found out how many New Zealand art/music pages had been deleted, and I was pleased to see that one survive. I note your role in the saving of the page and thank you. I've just put in a new page for Richard von Sturmer, one for Corben Simpson, and hope to do Limbs Dance Company soon. All of those were deleted for reasons I disagree with. Ross-c (talk) 20:59, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you for all your Geoff Simmons contributions :)

Referencing[edit]

Hi Nurg, thanks for your valuable contributions. I just thought I'd remind you that edits like this should really be backed up by a reliable source. Schwede66 22:11, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Sandfly Pic[edit]

Good question. I'm not quite sure because it's been over 10 years, but it must have been somewhere in the Te Anau area. I remember that it was a public campground near a lake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilio floris (talkcontribs) 12:19, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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