User talk:Ozgod/Archive Old Talk - 2007

Weird Edits

Made a bizzarre edit of turning a citation needed tag into a date and time on the Judy Garland page. --Ozgod 14:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's quite correct. "Citation needed" is a redirect to "Fact", and a date (no time) is added to help classify the enormous numbers of articles with citations needed. Rich Farmbrough, 14:08 8 February 2007 (GMT).

Anna Nicole Smith

Sorry, I know I know. I'll stop the ANS vandalism. I got a little hyper and just wanted for a tiny tiny second to rebel against the machine. That's enough. But I'm really going to miss those yabbos.--Jack Cox 02:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Anna Nicole Smith

Certainly. The protection is set to expire in two days. Happy editing to you! Teke ^(talk) 02:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Golden Age of Hollywood

But surely not everything produced between 1920 and 1949 is worthy of being linked to a "Golden Age"? —tregoweth (talk) 09:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Judy Garland FAC

I have removed the fac tag from the article, as you did not complete the nominating process. In any event, this article is not ready to be a FAC and will be shot down in flames if nominated, which we both don't want to see happen. There are so many flaws at this time it will takes weeks to get it up to the point it can even be considered. You might want to look at Bette Davis for an idea of what we're striving for. Please feel free to contact me about improving it to qualify as FAC. Jeffpw 10:44, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Reversion of Wales Article

I noticed you did a reverse edit of Pete on a Pongo Stick edits to the article of Wales, but what I saw mostly between his edit and your reversion was a huge deletion of information that seemed relevant. Mind you there was a lot that I skimmed through but I did not see any vandalism within and I now see this user has been indefinitely blocked. Just curious was why his edits were reversed?--Ozgod 08:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Pete copied multiple copies of the article into itself. So it looked OK, but wasn't. Regards, Ben Aveling 10:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that was the reason; difficult to spot, which is why it was a while before it got reverted. The user's indefinite block came after persistent and somewhat more obvious vandalism to other articles – Qxz 16:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:Indefinite block on 68.126.252.131

Ah... Well, I'm afraid adding the template to their userpage does not block a user. Only an administrator can do that using a restricted special page, and only an administrator is allowed to add that message to the user's talk page. If you think a user should be blocked for vandalism, you can list them at WP:AIV, but make sure your report follows the instructions there. Hope this clears things up. Heimstern Läufer 18:31, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

For keeping an eye on John Brown (abolitionist)‎. :) futurebird 05:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

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Joe Biden

hello, i am in the middle of editting this page so it complies with NPOV so please do not revert my edits till i complete what i am doing. then discuss on talk & offer some explanation of your reverts. 202.0.106.130 05:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I apologize, but you do have to understand when I see an unregistered member blanking out huge sections of referenced material, I am left to assume it is vandalism. Please leave an Edit summary with each edit.. --Ozgod 05:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

thats OK. i am done for now however i would appreciate some discussion on talk rather than reverting my edits without explanation. 202.0.106.130 05:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism Problem with Ethics Article

Hey, so you posted a message on my talk page about vandalism of an article (and potential of being blocked), but didn't link to the article in question. I reviewed all of my edits to look for the edit in question (because I was pretty confused about this message!), and came across an anomaly on the Ethics article.

My contributions history lists only *one* edit, which links here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethics&diff=prev&oldid=107063133

Reviewing the edit history of the Ethics article, however, lists *two* edits credited to my username (when scrolling through diff history), one of which does in fact appear to be vandalism ... I'm completely baffled because this is not an edit that I made! When I came across the article I logged in to *remove* this vandalism (which existed *one full day previously* and was posted by an anonymous user on Feb. 9 from IP 68.238.182.241), but I did *not* actually update the page with a change because someone had taken care of it by the time I previewed the removal of the vandalism. I closed the page and made no changes, and it is somehow now attributed to my user account?

Initial vandalism, by anonymous user from IP 68.238.182.241 is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethics&diff=prev&oldid=106914405

"My" edit in question is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethics&diff=next&oldid=107063133

I'm new at this and am pretty confused ... help? How did this get attributed to my user account when the vandalism was there *before* I went in to change it? And why does my contribution history only list *one* edit of the article, while the article history also shows *one* edit, but when scrolling through the diff history it shows *two* edits? I'm wondering if there was some sort of logging error ... any ideas? And if not, who could I talk to about looking into this?

JonathanDLehman 15:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

About protections

Hi! I see you have been tagging alot of pages with a semiprotection-tag, probably thinking that it makes a page semiprotected. But that's not how it works. You're not the first to make that mistake, but only administrators can actually protect pages. They do it by clicking a special button they have in their menue. The tag doesn't make any difference. To request page protections, you yould go to WP:RFP and follow the instructions there. Shanes 23:23, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Your edits and tactics are not in line with Wikipedia policy.

Everything you keep reverting back the breakcore article is outdated and full of spam. Over half of those artists are not recognized and simply are people looking to gain pubclity through Wikipedia and another quarter of those are not breakcore artists at all. Please leave my revisions alone. What makes you the sole authority on "breakcore" when you keep allowing random people from myspace put their names on the breakcore artist list as if they deserve it? Let me clean up the article or discuss with me, if you keep reporting me for vanadlism I will report you for using a bot and for not following Wikipedias procedures on article editing. You are not an authority and you have no power over anyone else to say what goes and what doesn't. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.176.248.111 (talk) 05:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

When I see an unregistered user blanking whole sections on an article without explanation, I am therefore left to assume it is vandalism. So in the future, choose to register for the site or at least leave a reason for your revisions. I am not familiar with the article of List of breakcore artists, but when I see an unregistered user simply blasting away whole chunks of the article, my only rationale is to revert and report. --Ozgod 05:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Lager

You informed me on my talkpage that one my edits was supposedly unconstructive and reverted. First of all it was not reverted, second it was a linkfix since an article had been renamed (The original article "Bavaria Brewery" was renamed "Bavaria Brewery (Netherlands)". I don't appreciate being seen as a 'vandal' when I try to make relevant linkfixes. --Fogeltje 07:23, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Your edit on that page consisted of adding a link to an article entitled Zuck on my nuts bitch which was promptly RV'ed by another user. I simply added the vandalism1 tag to your page. --Ozgod 07:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Look carefully in what my edit did in the history! You'll see that this was already present and not added by me. I simply made a linkfix and didn't check the page for vandalism. I suggest you look who added the vandalism before dishing out warnings. --Fogeltje 07:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring my talkpage. Mistakes happen. Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh. In case you still want to place a warning, the recent vandalism was done here and here.--Fogeltje 11:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Pinktulip

Hi, I saw your question on Pinktulip's talk page. He was banned indefinitely a year ago for stalking other users. Musical Linguist 00:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll delete it. He was already indefinitely banned (under a different username) when he created it, and there haven't been any substantial edits by anyone else. It's also not particularly notable. Thanks. Musical Linguist 01:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Message to Ozgod from Drdestiny77

Hi there Ozgod. Hopefully I'm writing this in the correct spot. Please let me know if I'm not. I received a message from you regarding vandalism on the iron ring page. My changes were described on the talk page, some were accepted by peers editing the page, and all changes were in effort of improving the correctness, focus, and overall goal of improving the article. Additional changes have been made, and I've placed my comments (and further proposed changes on the talk page). This is not vandalism, and if you revert changes without consulting the talk page, you are jeopardizing the article. Nonetheless, I thank you for your effort in attempting to protect wikipedia from vandalism, and I look forward to productive discussions on the future of the article if you are so interested in further editing it.

Thank you. Drdestiny77

thanks for biographical editing and cleanup!

Thank you very much for your edits! I'm trying, without much success so far, to get the several individuals in question to expand at length on their personal and professional biography. Do you have any suggestions on how to go about this? Thanks! JPatrickBedell 07:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Comments on Military biographies

I noticed that you did some work on the William G. Thrash article. Thanks for your efforts. I offer you the following thoughts: (I noticed that you requested an editor review, so I thought you might want some suggestions).

This is the biography of a military officer. There are some basic "standards" that have been developed for military biographies. For example, in the infobox, even if you don't have all of the information, if you put in the entire standard template, it is easier for other editors to fill in the info. The "battles" and "awards" fields are usually included in all articles. For awards, this is for notable awards. Practice is usually to put them in order of precedence, down to the Purple Heart. For sections, often, instead of by decades, Wars make a more reasonable subsection, such as World War II, Korean War, etc. As for medals, the "gold star" (for U.S. Military) is not a medal in itself, but rather given in lieu of a subsequent award of the same medal.

You also added a lot of wikilinks, such as dates. Take a look at the WP:Manual of Style — not all dates need to be linked. And, usually, only the first instance of a word/phrase is linked.

— ERcheck (talk) 02:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Lorna Luft

there are some great pictures of Lorna Luft in Yahoo Images but I am a photo moron when it comes to wikipedia - I am not sure about the copyright issues etc - but there is a great picture of Lorna with a top hat cane and shamrock that would make a great addition to the article - perhaps you are better skilled at this than myslef - I have given up trying - I upload the picture but don't know where it goes! vono 81.99.65.220 20:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Infobox colours

You were perfectly well mannered :-). I've been monitoring the Anna Nicole Page since she died (for vandals and such) and I noticed that someone had changed the infobox colour to silver with the comment that infoboxes of deceased people should be silver. I assumed it was practice...thus changed back the colour. But you know, afterwards I looked everywhere myself about the policy about colours used on infoboxes...and couldn't find a thing...If there is a MoS, I haven't found it. This was clearly my mistake so feel free to change it back :-) --Seraphim Whipp 21:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Just in case you're interested :-) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Infobox_colours

Seraphim Whipp 01:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

WPBiography banner on musical groups' talk pages

Please note that WikiProject Musicians, as an integrated part of WPBiography, does use the WPBiography banner's flag "|musician-work-group=yes" which adds the following text to the banner: This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed biographical guide to musicians and musical groups on Wikipedia.. Best regards, BNutzer 08:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Abdul-Azeez ibn Abdullaah Aal ash-Shaikh

Hi, why did you add weasel words and npov tags to this article? Seems a bit over the top considering there is hardly any text and the article seems pretty much to the point (but admittedly unsourced). Wikipidian 19:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Because of the phrase "He is one of the most important Sunni Muslim clerics in the world." --Ozgod 01:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Per 'Adam' AfD's

As per my AfD's all being named Adam - I am currently going through the Unassessed articles in the WPBiography project and upgrading most to stubs, but there a few that lack any notability and as such I have nominated for deletion. --Ozgod 04:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, a valuable task. Though there must be an awful lot of them... have fun with that! – Qxz 04:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Oodles and noodles and bucket loads. Upwards to 130,000+ I figure if I can handle doing at least 100 a day... I will clear it out in...3 1/2 years... alone...yeah, fun. --Ozgod 04:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I did one for you, so only another 135,255 and you'll be done. I was thinking, isn't this the sort of thing that could be done by a bot? It wouldn't be able to check for notability, but it could check if the article had a stub tag, and upgrade it to a stub if so. Might save you some work – Qxz 04:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Adam Wise

No worries. I've never heard of him, and if he disappears in the AfD I'll not be desperately unhappy. But if he survives, I'll make a pet project out of it.

As a general principle, I agree there needs to be an examination of orphaned pages. I think Wikipedia is cluttered with articles that tell the reader nothing that they wouldn't already have known if they searched for the article in the first place. politician stubs are the worst example - what's the point of looking up John Smith MP just to discover that he is an MP whose name is John Smith? Jeendan 06:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Adam

Hi Ozgod,
Could you please try finding sources before nominating articles for deletion? I've already come across several Adams who turn out to be notable after a simple Google search. There's a difference between unverified and unverifiable. The second is a reason for deletion, the first isn't.

You don't have to do fancy formatting to add references as long as the links get in there and if you don't have the time to add sources yourself, perhaps you can ask someone from the biography project to help out. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

• Could you at least make sure the nomination is sound? When the articles themselves make some claim of notability, lack of notability can't be a reason to delete it unless you've researched it. Have you heard about the cleanup task force and the wikiproject in which people look for references. Perhaps you should send questionable articles there and have others research them and put them on AFD if they fail something. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• I do apologize, I take the article at face value. I check to see the History log to see how long since updates, etc. I regularly tag articles with the {{cleanup}}{{unreferenced}}and{{expert-subject-|PROJECT}} tags. In cases where I feel (I hate being subjective as well) the article does not establish the notability of the subject, I nominate for AfD. If the article is unreferenced and has questionable notability (which again, subjective opinon on my part), I send it to AfD and let the community have the final say on whether it is notable or not. Once again, my apologies if this has created a headache for you. --Ozgod 13:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Adela Micha is more notable than Béatrice Schönberg

Why don't we delete the Béatrice Schönberg article. Are the French better? There is a larger audience in the English speaking world for this Spanish language program because of all the Mexicans and Mexican-Americans who live in the Anglo world of America, than there is for Béatrice Schönberg's French TV news. What is the reason why one is good and the other not notable? I don't understand. Please explain in her talk page so other editors can assess your proposal. As such, unless we delete Béatrice Schönberg we shouldn't delete Adela Micha. Chivista 19:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

If we were logical, a removal of Adela should mean a emoval for Beatrice. Since I believe the encycpodeia should provide initial info for the uninformed web user about various TV news presenters, there should be such info. I wonder if I should investigate the reporters and presenters on BBC wrold news. Chivista 16:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

So I go to the category of unassess and pick at random Adrian Burk whose article did not have an AFD, puorquoi pas? Chivista 17:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I looked at your link for WP biography notability. I am NOT related to Ms. Micha. But she is very famous in Mexico. Lots of Mexican Americans speak English too. They watch her in the US on Galavision. She is very well known. Chivista 18:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Question about starting projects or finding one

As I am still eagerly chipping away at the colossal amount of articles that need assessment for WPBIOs - is there a project already out there for this? Or is it possible to start a project specifically for assessing this huge backlog of articles (138,000+ that have been tagged for the WPBiography project). On my own I calculate that does 200 assessments a day it will take me 3.5 years. Not exactly fun. With 20 people doing 200 edits a day it would take 34 days - ideally it would be 100 people working on this project, taking a little under 7 days. Is it possible to start a project solely for the purpose of getting through this backlog? --Ozgod 18:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure it's possible – I don't think there are any "rules" as such about starting new projects, you just make a project page and hope people show up. I don't know of any project already doing this, although I would assume (and I imagine most other people would assume) that such a project would be part of the Biography WikiProject, as the templates themselves and the biography assessment scheme are part of that project. I guess the way to go about it is to start a sub-project of WikiProject Biography specifically to get all the unassessed biographies assessed... and then advertise it in places like the Community Portal in order to get some interest. I could probably find time to do some, but finding another 18 people might be tricky. Hope this helps – Qxz 19:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

We probably should modify Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Assessment for this. -- Jreferee 21:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Assessing

I do try to assess articles when stub sorting, tho generally only if they already have the WPBio template or I remove the stub notice. Stub sorting is my primary Wikipedia activity. Caerwine Caer’s whines 20:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I think you meant to include a ":" before Category so as to make it a link. Caerwine Caer’s whines 21:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

OK. But please can you inform me how to do it for bio articles - the importance section I have tried it but it doesn't show up. Please tag Fernando Siro I just started as mid-importance and I can see then! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

hey I am an extremely busy guy 200 articles!! Are you kidding!!! 20 maybe! I'll do my best but I can't solely dedicate myself to tagging but am glad to help out a bit. All the best Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies

Is there a category in which articles that need assessment are listed? ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies (copied from here)

Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of unassessed articles tagged with {{WPBiography}}. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 20:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Are these unassessed articles listed some place? Thanks. -- Jreferee 21:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, they are located here. Most of them are simply of the stub or start class and contain an unfinished WPBIO box. I have personally have been devoting myself to clearing out this list, but if you could assess between 20-30 articles a day it would help greatly. I would love if you could cover 200 a day, but that is asking a lot. Thank you in advance for helping out in whatever way you can. --Ozgod 21:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

To assess the article, do I need to fill out the class parameter and the priority parameter or just the class parameter? -- Jreferee 21:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to jump in the middle of a discussion, but you only need to fill in the class parameter. Prioritizing has been halted for now, and the only ones prioritized are those identified as Core biographies. Mocko13 21:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest just filling out the class parameter - priority can be determined later. If you can as well, fill out the |living, |needs-infobox= and |needs-photo= as well since have those tagged will help move it along to the class. I would suggest copying and pasting the template I posted here so you can simply copy and paste and quickly fill in the necessary class and other info. Thanks again! --Ozgod 21:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I placed more detailed instructions on how to assess biography articles here. -- Jreferee 21:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Brilliant, thank you. Should the template be clear though so people can simply copy and paste it and fill out? Again, thank you for helping. --Ozgod 22:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

The way I had the template, you do not need to fill it out. You just have to delete what you do not what. It is so much quicker that way. -- Jreferee 23:02, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Brilliant - thank you for doing that! I modified the table so the fields are clear so it is an easier copy/paste, but explained that most fields (with the exception of class and listas) are yes and no responses. If it is more confusing, just do an RV on what I changed. Again, thank you! --Ozgod 22:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you do not put "no" for most of the parameters. Except for the living parameter, you delete the parameter with the answer is no. Please read the instructions I provided, follow them, and let me know whether there is any confusion. Thanks. -- Jreferee 22:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

• Take a look at my recent contributions. If you look over those with "WPBiography template expanded; assessed biography", you will see how I implemented my copy, paste, and delete technique. It is much quicker than copy, paste, fill out, and delete. -- Jreferee 23:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Bio article deletion

I've noticed a number of articles that you have nominated for deletion or prodded. I just wanted to drop a note and say, keep up the good work! I've been doing something similar (though on a smaller scale, usually 10-12 a day) with actor stubs. Mostly I've been "prodding" them and in a few cases it has led to the improvement of articles. When the prod tag is removed but nothing changes, I'll simply put it up at AFD. As an actor, I hate nominating fellow actors for deletion, but when someone has only had a few minor roles on film or TV, it irks me that someone considers them notable, especially when so little can be written about their life from verifiable sources. Again, just wanted to say you are not alone in your work! Good job! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 21:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, AFD can be entirely too negative at times, plus many people there are often ill-informed when it comes to notability and WP:V. Frequently it becomes a game of I say it's NN, while you say it's notable. I personally like PROD better in that it gives the editors time to improve the article, but also articles that would be kept on AFD quietly go away. It's a sneaky way of doing things, but it works a bit better. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 21:18, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Biography Assessments

• Glad someone else is on it. In case you didn't see it, I put together a Biography Assessment Drive a little while ago. Not much response yet, but I think if we get the March newsletter out we'll see more people signing up. Mocko13 21:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

• I see you left me an invitation to participate in the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies backlog. Actually, although I left my name there, I'm not really active on that front anymore but I'm wishing you the best of luck! Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 21:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

• Hi! Sure, I'll be glad to help out doing some preliminary assessments. I'm glad to know where I can help!  :) Aleta 22:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for the message on my talk page. In addition to being a member to the WPBiography Project I am also a member of the Muscians work group. I have recently been assessing some of the muscians and have also added infoboxes and priorities to some of the higher rated articles. I know it will take me quite a while to get through the musician articles. After that I'd like to work on A&E unassessed articles, and then maybe to Sports. I know there are a lot of unassessed articles in addition to these three categories, but I think I would be better suited to these than to other disciplines at this time. Also, I am only rating articles up to a B-class; if the article should be nominated for GA status, then I usually let someone with better knowledge of the article's subject make that nomination. Please let me know if there are any concerns with my above practices. Thanks, - cgilbert^{(talk|contribs)} 22:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
• I've rated some recently, but I can see a lot more need to be done. I'll see if I can do more, although I have been busy with a lot of other stuff since I became an admin. VegaDark 23:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
• Thanks for the invitation. I am a fairly experienced editor who has never assessed articles before. Are there guidelines somewhere? I must admit I signed up for WP:WPBIO based on my editorial contributions as opposed to explicit project activities. I have contributed a few dozen bio articles. My most recent is Rob Pelinka. I think some experience assessing articles will be improve my wikiskill set. I guess aside from adding parameters the real guidance I would need is in determining class. Please advise. TonyTheTiger 00:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
• Gee, does everybody really need to start a new discussion on Bio assessments when there are already a whole bunch of them?!!! Anyway, I've methodically gone through Arts & Entertainment folks during a stint yesterday & one today, & managed to wipe out the unassessed category of A&E people whose first name begins with A. (Someone else caught the last two - thanks!) Now I'm off to my own projects, but will plan to keep contributing to this effort. -- Yksin 05:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you for the invitation. I have hesitated for a while because I am a newbie, and I

haven´t done any sorting or assessing before. I have just edited a few biographies about notable historical persons in Ancient Rome. I am also pretty lacking in wiki code skills. Yet, if all this is acceptable I will do my best, and learn a bit more about Wikipedia. Like TonyTheTiger, I would also be very happy getting advice.--Tellervo 14:34, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Comment

I don't think it's neccessary to spam me (along with others) with a message about the Biography project. Check my edit history: I already do assess for Biography (and other projects as well) on a regular basis. RobJ1981 23:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation

You invited me to help out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies. Regret I cannot yet understand the system.=== Vernon White (talk) 00:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

will look into it, Thanks. Rohitde

Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies

I've kind of shied away from assessments, but I will try to pitch in to help reduce the backlog of the stubs/starts at least. Schmiteye 01:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Tags on bios

Hello Ozgod, I see you're going through bios and tagging articles pretty rapidly. I'm not sure I agree with some of the tags, though, particularly the "wikify" ones. You seem to intend these to be more toward creating section layouts than adding internal links, as most are amply wikilinked, but I feel the articles are so short that there is no need or possibility of rearranging them into a new section layout. In particular, Adriaan Blaauw and Adragon De Mello look okay as they are, until they are expanded. It just may be my personal tastes; what are your thoughts on this? I'm also confused with Adrian Arnold-Smith, which seems both well-wikilinked and in a good section layout. -SpuriousQ (talk) 01:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

200+ Biography article assessments

Per your request a few hours ago, I banged out 200+ Biography assessments. -- Jreferee 01:57, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Assessments

Thanks for the invite to do article assessments. I might help out with this some, however, the problem I have with any kind of article grading is that the whole grading system is a bit of a mystery to me. When does an article stop being a Stub and become a Start class article? (Its more than just length, I think.) How does a "GA" (good article) class article differ from a B- or A-class article. I'm pretty unclear on that right now. Also, I do list myself as member of WikiBiography Project, but what I contribute is really an extension of the other Wikiprojects I'm part of – hence, my focus is on biographies of biologists (especially, mycologists), notable San Francisco Bay Area figures, and contemporary artists and musicians. Peter G Werner 23:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Wpbio assessments

Look through my edits. Don't worry, in my time her eI've done well over 1000, around 1500 sounds about right (cleared Q, X, and U). I'll keep add it though, it's been a project of mine.--Wizardman 04:51, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I'll do my best. Thanks for the invitation. - Anas ^Talk? 11:44, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, i've done a few assessments already and ill try to a couple each time I'm on wikipedia. LordHarris 18:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Biography assessments

As per your request I've assessed about a 100 or so biographies. I don't have any experience of grading articles though, so I've stuck to those that are obviously stubs. PC78 13:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies

Hi Ozgod! I'll help out with this when I can, but I'm really busy in real life right now. Wikipedia has been back-burnered for awhile. --RedRollerskate 15:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

And right after I post this, I get sick and am stuck at home with nothing to do.  :) I'm chugging through the backlog now. RedRollerskate 15:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I had to add a "me too" to the above. I've just come off a mini-Wikibreak, and am trying to cut back by limiting myself to an hour a day in a few very specific interest areas. But if I find myself on a biography article, I'll check for an assessment, and add one if it's missing. Just glancing at the A listing of unassessed articles, I saw a huge number of completely unfamiliar names. It seems to me a good assessment should come from someone who has at least a vague idea who the person is before reading the article. Otherwise, how would one know that a major source of the person's notability is missing? Karen | Talk | contribs 00:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Awards committee

I added you to the Assessment drive's awards committee. -- Jreferee 16:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

help with unassessed bios

Sorry, I'm having too many things in my hands right now. Will glady help when I have freed some time. --Bentong Isles 03:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

• How do I help? Is there an assessment grid of some sort? I know the difference between a Stub and Start article, but the difference between a Start and a B article seems to be a fine point. I just want to be clear, because I don't want to begin upsetting people by giving them unduly low scores.Abebenjoe 07:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
• I've got a similar problem to the one above. Any guidance/advice/ etc on how to do this would be much appreciated (am definitely happy to help...). --Heidijane 12:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For your diligence in examining biographical articles, you are awarded the Barnstar of Diligence. --Nlu (talk) 06:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Y names

Nice to see all those Y names with cleanup tags! Rich Farmbrough, 22:14 25 February 2007 (GMT).

Assessment Guidelines

O.K. I dipped my toe into the unassessed biographies pool. I guess I will start with articles I know best from my editorial experience. I am a bit curious on how well my scale is calibrated. I guess the border between B and Start is a little fuzzy for me based on Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Assessment. I don't mean to burden you with handholding, but could you talk me through Chris Webber, Glen Rice, Rob Pelinka, Juwan Howard as it relates to this border. TonyTheTiger 01:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I should also ask your assessment of my priority calibration since I will both add priority and class when I perform this task. TonyTheTiger 05:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

P.S. are you saying Rob Pelinka is a stub class because he has no infobox or picture? TonyTheTiger 05:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

The problem with Pelinka is that even the most famous sports agents (e.g. Drew Rosenhaus) don't have infoboxes and he never made the NBA so the infobox NBA player is not appropriate. Do you know of an infobox appropriate for him? I might write U of M athletics and see if they would consent to providing a picture of him as a player, but am not sure this is the picture that is desirable in the upper right of his article. TonyTheTiger 06:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Three Kingdoms articles

You seem to be targeting some Three Kingdoms officer articles for deletion because they have a fiction tag on them. I guess I have some explaining to do....the fiction tags there do not mean, for most of the time, that the subject is a work of fiction. Instead, the article "may fail to make a clear distinction between fact and fiction", which, in this case, means it has elements of fiction masquerading as fact. This is especially prominent for officers of the Three Kingdoms, since a later historical novel, Romance of the Three Kingdoms muddled the fact and fiction of the era. I ask of you to use caution before you nominate those articles for deletion in the future, thank you. _dk 03:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

No offence taken, your stance is understandable especially since the original creator of the articles never cared about factuality anyways..(He was indef banned, but it's become a pain to clean up the hundreds of half-fiction stubs he left behind...) Anyways, thanks for clearing that up and keep up the good work. _dk 03:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

You have also sent a similar message to me, but though I find the original deletion perhaps understandable, I do not find it so understandable that you are continuing. The WP article on the novel makes clear that this is one of the great classic Chinese novels, that it is historical fiction, and that all the principal characters are both in the novel and in real-world history. This is making a great deal of work for the rest of the people at AfD, but perhaps someone will as a result adopt them.DGG 18:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Comments from WPBiography box

People doing WikiBiography Project assessments might note that there's a suggestion in the box for assessors to create a comment about what they might suggest for future editors to improve the biography being assessed. I usually do write such a comment -- if there's not already a comment box, writing one leads to the creation of a comment page.

Another editor, well-meaning, thought that I'd made a mistake in putting my comment on a separate page. He moved my comment to the article's main talk page & marked the comment page for speedy deletion, then informed me of his action. I explained the procedure, so now he knows -- but I've also started prefacing my comments on the (usually new) comment page with

WikiBiography Project assessment:

so that other editors running across them won't make the same well-intentioned mistake.

I'm suggesting this as a practice other WPBiography assessors might want to use.

-- Yksin 20:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Visual arts-related AfDs

Here's a template to use in an AfD, when it has been listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Visual arts (please do list appropriate AfDs there). I think it should go under the article details and above the nom statement, as it is a formal notice and not part of the debate. It will sign your name with date stamp automatically. Please pass on to others.

Mnemonic: List of Visual arts-related Deletions.

Template to use:

{{subst:LVD}}

Result:

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. Tyrenius 00:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Tyrenius 00:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Assessment awards

You changed the top honor to 3,000+ to be awarded a Wikipedia:Barnstars.[1]. After Carom reached 200+, you indicated that you awarded him a barnstar[2] and then deleted his name and his running total from the nominations/running total list. It's important to keep Carom's name under the nominations list so that Carom's can update their running total. Just make a note next to his name under the nominations list that he received a barnstar. The way the assessment drive page appears now, it does not seem that drive has awarded any awards. Also, 1,000+ biography assessments have been used in the past to award bardstars and it seems that increasing the requirement to 3,000 will reduce a motivation to participate in the drive, not increase it. -- Jreferee 18:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Assessment Awards (copied from here)

I apologize - I had a blank moment - awarded him his barnstar and cleared his name. I do apologize for upping the final award to 3,000+ but it seemed redundant to have two awards for reaching 1,000, hence why I changed the top to 3,000. Sorry for any confusion I have caused. --Ozgod 00:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem. It might be better to reduce the #2 award to 750 and give barnstars at each 1,000. I figure it will take me four days of hard, focused work to reach 1,000 so 1,000 seems about right for a barnstar. Also, I think it might be more impressive if the awards came from the committee. We also can give awards individually, too. -- Jreferee 00:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter

The March 2007 issue of the Biography WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Mocko13 21:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

No technical skil

All I can do is type poorly about topics like tax and mexican futbol and their tv shows. Chivista 14:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC) I watch the shows.

Entrusted with the Bucket!

Yes, my identical copy of bucket-and-mop =]

Thank you for supporting me in my RfA. Thanks for your vote, I've received an overwhelming 96% support and successfully took a copy of bucket-and-mop from the main office!

School graduation exam and HKCEE are both pressing in, so I might become inactive for a while. But soon after that, I look forward to working with you! --Deryck C. 03:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Much thanks for that "schwartz" XD --Deryck C. 03:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Assessment from an article page

Thank you for helping out with the Biography assessment drive. Good news. Outriggr recently designed a script that will cut youf biography assessment time down by about ten fold (what took ten hours now may only take one hour with Outriggr's script). For more information, please see the 'assessment from article page' discussion. -- Jreferee 20:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Vanity

Please see the note on "Vanity" I have left in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Véronique Becker, so we can be *nice* to people. Tyrenius 03:52, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I understand and please don't take it as a personal criticism, as it's something that a lot of people don't realise. If you follow the link in the statement, you'll see that it is something that causes problems, so I hope the word will get around. Tyrenius 04:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Unassessed Biographies

I noticed a template at Talk:Tusshar_Kapoor. Apparently, some WPs can by default designate an article as a stub based on its use of stub templates. What do you think of this approach? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 23:02, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

script

Thanks. Glad you like it - but what do you mean by development? Using it personally? –Outriggr § 05:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Review work for Version 0.7

Hi Ozgod, welcome to the Wikipedia 1.0 team (a little late)! You may be pleased to hear that our first CD release will be coming out in late March. Now I'm wanting to get reviewing fully under way at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations, and I see that you've signed on to help. To help new reviewers, I've written a reviewing FAQ page, though I see you've done a fair bit of reviewing for the Bios Assessment Drive (thanks for that, it will in fact help us a lot at Version 0.7!). Can you take a look at the to do list, and see if you can help us out? If you have any questions, please leave me a note. Many thanks, Walkerma 04:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. Enjoy Italy! Walkerma 15:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Good to hear from you, I hope you enjoyed la bella Italia. (I think it's a great place) Our bot is still a few weeks off, I think, but the V0.5 CD is finally set to come out tomorrow. I wonder if we should try and tackle the set nominations together this week? Don't spend hours and hours on it - one of the lists is extremely long - but your opinions would be valued. Probably best to start with the shorter lists. I will try to make time for this, I would have done so earlier but I didn't want to be talking to myself! Would this be OK to work on? Whatever you work on, feel free to bug me if you have questions. Thanks, Walkerma 03:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't apologise! We all get busy in real life, that's understood, and I've been very busy myself. We'll really appreciate your help when you have time. Hopefully we'll have a bot to help us soon, too. Thanks, Walkerma 15:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for starting work. Can you give us your comments on scope for Version 0.7 here? Thanks, Walkerma 03:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for your support in my recent RfA. Blossoming hopefully underway. Shimeru 15:26, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Actors and Filmakers

Hey see my proposals at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Actor and Filmmakers and the main WP Film and Biography talk page. Know anybody who is interested? Actors and all film people articles need a body on wikipedia to upkeep them asthey need more focus -it would be a part of Biogrpahy and Film. If you are interested or know somebody who would be, please let them know and whether you think it is a good progession for the project or not. Please leave your views at the council or biogrpahy main talk page. THanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"I've been expecting you"} 14:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Last push for the Biography Assessment Drive

We've done great work so far on the WikiProject Biography Spring 2007 Assessment Drive, reducing the 135,345 backlog by 38,626 to 96,719 as of March 20, 2007. We have only 6,720 more to go to get below 90,000. That would be outstanding and any extra effort that you can offer in these last few days of the drive (which ends March 24, 2007) would be much appreciated. If you haven't already, you may want to load Outriggr's assessment script in your monobook.js. If you have any questions, please feel free to post them on my talk page. -- Jreferee 23:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Assessments

By the end of the day I should finally have gotten all of the pages I have created parameterized in with WPBIO templates.

I was wondering if there is any way to stamp assessments something like |class=Stub|cl assessed=December 2006|priority=Mid|Pr assessed=October 2006? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 15:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry about not replying to your message. I've just come back from a break. I'd be glad to help though, are there still many to be assessed or have some been finished?Victoria Eleanor 12:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)#Regarding notability of Football (soccer) players

Hi, seeing you have been involved in previous Afd debates on the subject I invite you to contribute to this discussion to clarify certain issues about football player notability. I think clearer guidelines are needed to avoid repeated inappropriate nominations for deletion and time consuming discussions. Cheers! StephP 22:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit dispute

Would you please weigh in with your opinion at Buddy - The Buddy Holly Story? Thanks for your opinion either way. -- Ssilvers 18:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Awards for the assessment drive

These are long overdue. I'll do them if you have no objection. (also posted at User talk:Jreferee and User talk:Mocko13. Errabee 23:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your post. There was interest in extending the drive through March 2007 and it seemed important to give people some time to add their names to the nominations list and/or update their running total. The awards have been distributed and the drive closed. Thank you for your thoughtful offer of assistance and participating in the drive. -- Jreferee 18:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

RE: Barnstar of Diligence

Thanks for the award! - • The Giant Puffin • 09:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Likewise, it was fun doing the assessments, and am continuing to work on it. Sdsouza 11:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Same here, BNutzer 18:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

And another thanks! G Donato (talk to me...) 19:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Biography Spring 2007 Assessment Drive

Thank you for your contributions! -- WikiProject Biography Spring 2007 Assessment Drive 16:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For your tireless and endless efforts in assessing biography articles, WikiProject Biography Spring 2007 Assessment Drive hereby awards you The Working Man's Barnstar. 16:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

		The Golden Wiki Award
		For your exceptional contributions to the WikiProject Biography Spring 2007 Assessment Drive, WikiProject Biography Spring 2007 Assessment Drive hereby awards you The Golden Wiki Award. 16:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for a job well done

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Through your leadership in co-running the WikiProject Biography Spring 2007 Assessment Drive with Mocko13 and Jreferee, 44,324 articles were assessed, reducing the number of unassessed articles by an astounding 33% - from 135,345 to 91,021. In addition, many of the assessed articles further were linked to the appropriate work groups, significantly improving the chance that these articles will be improved. In view of your service well above and beyond ordinary efforts, WikiProject Biography Spring 2007 Assessment Drive hereby awards you The Tireless Contributor Barnstar.17:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Posting on other's pages

Hi Ozgod. I meant to say something eariler, but forgot. You had place an award on my user page and also placed one on my awards page (which I just found). I noticed that you placed awards on other's user page as well. Awards usually are posted on the person's talk page. For one, that is the only page that brings up the "You have new messages (last change)" notification. If you place an award on a user page or a user subpage, they may not find it. Also, if awards are placed on the user talk page, there is one history showing the original source for the award. The user then may copy the award elsewhere in their user space. If you place an award on a user page and that user copies it to an awards sub page, other editors may look to that user's talk page, not see the original awarding of that award, and wonder whether that person gave themselves that award. In general, it is considered polite to avoid substantially editing another's user pages and/or user subspace without their permission. You might want to review this. -- Jreferee 20:21, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

barnstar

Thanks Ozgod for the barnstar. Congrats on running the assessment drive to a successful conclusion! –Outriggr § 04:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Meryl Streep

I notice that you upgraded the Meryl Streep article to GA status about a month or so ago. As far as I can tell this article hasn't been through WP:GA/N, and in any case I can only see two citations, which falls some way short of WP:WIAGA. I was going to list it at WP:GA/D, but thought I'd raise the matter with you first. Regards, PC78 23:39, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

Ozgod, perhaps you were just trying to do the next up assessment scale grade? If so, that'd be A class, as GA class requires an article to go through the GA process first... Homestarmy 01:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Archive_Old_Talk_-_2007, thank you very much for your support in my successful RfA. I am thankful and humbled by the trust that the community has placed in me, and I welcome any comments, questions or complaints that you may have. Again, thank you for your support, and happy editing! Hemlock Martinis 22:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Assessments

I apologize I have not done more stub parameterizing for you. I have been pretty busy with WP:CHICOTW and WP:WPChi. In fact, at WP:WPChi I have finally created Category:Chicago articles by importance Category:Chicago articles by quality. I wanted to get your further advice on articles by importance. I can see that WP:BIO has approximately the same percentage of Top importance articles as there are FAs to total articles on wikipedia. This is a probably a good relationship. I am going to pursue this relationship at WP:WPChi. I.E., my current instruction is to start with 5 top and have no more until we have 6000 {{ChicagoWikiProject}} tags. Then we will continue to have less than 1 top per 1000 articles. However, I am not quite sure what percentage of articles should be Low, Mid and High. Can you give me numbers for your project? Do you have any advice on setting policy for importance assessment of such articles. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 19:45, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The WikiProject Biography Newsletter: Issue II - April 2007

The April 2007 issue of the WikiProject Biography newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you BetacommandBot 19:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

GA grades

Hi, this edit seems a bit out of character for you, as it seems Abbott and Costello haven't been nominated for GA. I've reassessed as B-class, if you don't mind. Errabee 11:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Good to hear, and good luck with the Real life issues. Errabee 03:23, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Yasuhiro Ishimoto

In this edit, you asked for a clear-up of Yasuhiro Ishimoto. However, you didn't take the opportunity of explaining on the article's talk page what the problems were. Could you take another look, and comment there? As it is, I'm surprised by the clear-up tag: The article is not so good, but I think not bad either. -- Hoary 04:41, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

WP Bio Banner

Hi, I am getting the WP:WPChi assessment division started using techniques learned while briefly contributing to your Feb bio unassessed article tagging drive. In the last 3 weeks we have gone from 400 articles to 7500 articles. I see your user contributions seem to be a bit limited over the last month so I will contact a few others within the project to make sure this message is recieved. Yesterday, I was helping a user solve talk page clutter problems at Ella Cara Deloria after a bot kept tagging a talk page and the user kept trying to remove our tag. It came to my attention that WP Bio seems to be using a possibly outdated format for some of its parameters. In particular, I believe the photo and living persons (and possibly the autostubbing) banners are formatted to produce more clutter than necessary. E.g., on the aforementioned page in order to work out a clutter solution I removed the "needs-photo = yes" parameter and put it in the {{ChicagoWikiProject}} banner. Later, I realized that this is probably not the best solution because if projects do this every time a talk page is cluttered with your parameterized banner you will begin to lose your hard work and the information from the categorization facilitated by such parameters. My suggestion is to change your parameters to appear as lines within the banner instead of as additional banners.

Also, I was curious why WP Bio does not use the analogue to our Category:Disambig-Class Chicago articles, which would be Category:Disambig-Class biography articles. It would seem this would be a useful category and could be easily populated with a bot looking for WP Bio tagged articles that have {{hndis}} or {{disamb}}. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 15:20, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Musical Theatre

Hello. I notice that you recently joined the Musicals project. Please weigh in at the discussion at the New Girl in Town article's talk page. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 18:12, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Illegal addition to talk page

You may not add anything to my talk page without prior consent. 76.197.131.48 04:06, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Please stop as I have a legal notice that you are not abiding. 76.197.131.48 04:13, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

If you do not stop, I will have an administrator intervene. 76.197.131.48 04:14, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism on User talk:76.197.131.48

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to User talk:76.197.131.48, are considered vandalism and are immediately reverted. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. 76.197.131.48 04:17, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Reverting your revision to erase your warnings is not vandalism. --Ozgod 04:18, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Release version template question

Hi Ozgod. Thank you for reviewing Talk:Bradley Joseph for the next release version in which it was held. You placed the template on the talk page and it links to Wikipedia:Version 0.5 Nominations/Held nominations, whereas you actually listed it at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations/Held nominations. Just wondering if the template needs updating? Cricket02 18:08, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Tagging of List of Indigenous Australians associated with European colonisation of Australia

I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on List of Indigenous Australians associated with European colonisation of Australia. I do not think that List of Indigenous Australians associated with European colonisation of Australia fits any of the speedy deletion criteria because This is not a reason for a speedy delete. You can discuss converting to a category on the talk page of the lsit, or discuss deleting the lsit at WP:AFD. See Wikipedia:List guideline for more about lsits. Lists are often appropriate and wikipedia has many. I request that you consider not re-tagging List of Indigenous Australians associated with European colonisation of Australia for speedy deletion without discussing the matter on the appropriate talk page. DES ^(talk) 15:25, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

See the lsit guideline above, and the various pages in it's see also list. There are many wikipeida "List of" articles. DES ^(talk) 15:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Nobody can keep track of all of them well. No problem. Here is a valuable resource: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia. DES ^(talk) 15:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Adelaide Aglietta

My most sincere apologies for my mistake on Adelaide Aglietta. As hard as I try to make good judgment calls, I unfortunately sometimes make mistakes :-( Sincerely, Curran (talk)

Tiago

Please tell me how you managed to find my new article within 2 minutes of me creating. Unbelievable how ever you did it. Niall123 17:57, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Adelaide Aglietta

I have not deleted this page, but it is very borderline for survival. I accept that there is an entry in wikipedia Italy - she is an Italian politician - and that there are a good number of Google hits. Is it possible to expand the article to affirm notability? Not every member of Parliament of every European country is intrinsically notable.--Anthony.bradbury 19:34, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Adding in my view per request, the article as it stood did look borderline speedyable when it was added, though by the time it was deleted it did look better. As for restoring it, looks like the deletor went and restored it himself, so that's fine for now. I added an incomplete tag as well so people know it's a work in progress.--Wizardman 23:39, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the heads up! I've deleted the article right away, tho it appears the account was inexistent. I'll keep an eye on the editor who created it. Have a nice day! Phaedriel - 22:05, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Zarina Bhimji

Please see the talk page and reply there if you wish, not on my talk page. Thanks. Tyrenius 02:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Please discuss on the article talk page if you wish to reinstate the tag. It's quite premature to start tagging it at this stage. Otherwise you might as well tag every stub in the same way, and there would be no point in having a stub tag. Tyrenius 02:52, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't have any problem over the biog project tags. That's quite appropriate and well done for speedy action. However, a stub tag by definition is stating that the article needs expanding. In that case the expand tag is redundant and should not be used - it's saying the same thing twice. You have also put the unreferenced tag on Nathan Coley saying, "This article or section does not cite any references or sources", when it does contain references, so that is not correct. These tags should be removed. You can answer here, as I will watch your talk page. Tyrenius 03:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Version 0.7 meeting

Hi, I wanted to find out if you would be able to attend the IRC meeting on Version 0.7 on Sunday afternoon (New Jersey time). We'll be talking with the publisher, the bot writer and others about the plans. If you're not familiar with IRC, I can help you download the software - worthwhile, because most Wikipedia meetings are done on IRC. If you can attend, please sign up here. Thanks! Walkerma 03:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! It's at 1pm EST. These are the notes Tito gave me to get me started on IRC. I downloaded Chatzilla to use within Firefox, then installed it. When you click on the link to the channel #wikipedia-1.0 this will start Chatzilla and log you on. (You can give this a try at any time - the channels are open 24/7 - let me know if you have a problem. If you want to say something, type it into the line at the bottom and hit Enter, it will appear in the discussion. If things get busy (we may have 2 threads going at once, one of which may be in French!) it's a good idea to mention the name of the person you're replying to (this also "pings" the person to let them know). I usually keep a log which I can email to you afterwards if you want, but we normally otherwise keep the meetings private so that people can free to speak openly. Cheers, Walkerma 06:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for attending. No worry about leaving, we closed the meeting almost immediately afterwards. pm27 is French and struggles with English, so it was hard for him to write a lot quickly - hence the slow pace at the end - but he is in fact our publisher so it's important for us to understand what he's thinking.

I'm sorry if it was hard to follow. I must admit I was a bit concerned that you were so quiet. IRC itself does take some getting used to, because you often have 2 or 3 threads going at once, including people misunderstanding things! Because of that it's critical to stay on track and keep things moving, because it's very easy for the discussion to disintegrate and then nothing is accomplished. Also, all of us except Joe and martinp23 are old 1.0 hacks who were heavily involved with version 0.5, I'm sorry if we tended to assume things. I can send you a transcript by email if you wish. If there are particular points from the agenda you would like explanation on, please ask and I'll try to do this. I didn't specifically cover "Scope" (equiv to importance) because Tito - the proposer - didn't show, and in fact we had covered some of that topic when discussing the bot. We did cover almost everything else on the agenda. Anyway, thanks for showing, sorry it was heavy, and please keep up the good work! Walkerma 03:04, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, we really do need to have two people involved, otherwise there is no gatekeeper involved - critical for quality control. Those articles you nominated look like easy passes to me, so they'll probably go through quickly (once the backlog is fully cleared). Thanks, Walkerma 03:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Ralph Crane floruit

I checked the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) — floruits are correct. Ugajin 12:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Reply

I haven't yet found birth/death dates for Ralph Crane; if I do, I'll add them to the article. Ugajin 01:59, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Murugesapillai Koneswary

I had removed your maintenance tags from the above mentioned article, check if you agree with me or not. Thanks Taprobanus 21:02, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Assessment Drive

I will probably work on getting this into action once I finish up a few other projects I have. Thanks for the interest in it. --Psychless ^{Type words or read things!} 21:09, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

About Biographies project

I don't have much time to join the project, but I guess I will keep creating new biography articles, or at least... stubs. Thanks anyway Onofre Bouvila 13:53, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

A really juicy backlog for you

Hi there! I noticed in your RFA that you enjoy tasks with large volumes of work. I have an excellent candidate for you--the backlog at Articles for creation. It is truly massive! Is this something that interests you? Thanks!--Xnuala (talk)(Review) 23:01, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you don't really need any material to deal with this one--the articles are already written, our job is to decline them as not appropriate or create them on behalf of an anonymous user. But, I love the idea of your "Real Life" project! Not only would it be a chance to meet other Wikipedians, it furthers the goal of improving the encyclopedia! Pity that NY is a bit far for me to travel to...--Xnuala (talk)(Review) 23:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey, anything you can do is fabulous! Welcome aboard, and thanks for being willing to tackle a big one!--Xnuala (talk)(Review) 23:11, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Hm, I like that one too...off to my local library at some point!--Xnuala (talk)(Review) 23:23, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

RFA

I've asked an optional question on your RFA. Wooyi^{Talk to me?} 20:26, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Good answer, I vote support. Wooyi^{Talk to me?} 02:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Summer Assessment Drive

I saw you expressed interest in this and I've been working on a page for it in my user space. It can be found here. Also, which administrator would I ask about this? Do I just randomly pick one on the members list? Please comment on it on my talk page. --Psychless ^{Type words!} 03:13, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your comments

Responses:
1. Do you know anyone who would be interested in doing this? Would you?
2. Same as above
3. Anyone can, but I will if possible
4. Generally, bot(s) do this. Of course they don't get assessed but they still get tagged. If you want to create a section for this feel free to.

Thanks for the comments. I hope it is appropriate just to set this up, there were no objections to the suggestion of it on the talk page and no hierarchy seems to exist within the project. I have finished work on the page, so you can make any revisions you see fit. Also, to help advertise the drive I will put a notice about it at the Award Center and put the message below on the talk page of every member in the project.

WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive!

WikiProject Biography is holding a three month long assessment drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unassessed articles. The drive is running from June 4, 2007 – September 4, 2007.

Awards to be won range from delicacies such as the WikiCookie to the great Golden Wiki Award.
There are over 110,000 articles to assess so please visit the drive's page and help out!

This drive was conceived of and organized by Psychless with the help of Ozgod. Regards, Psychless ^{Type words!}.

Thanks for your help and best of luck on your administrator nomination. --Psychless ^{Type words!} 23:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for your comments. I found them very helpful. I was wondering if you could perhaps tell me what you do for the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography. How could I be involved with this project? Thanks. Mattl2001 04:47, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

You might be able to help

A number of the articles listed on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Visual_arts/Infoart_articles#Articles_by_Infoart are not tagged as bios on the talk page. Tyrenius 16:30, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive

WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive!

WikiProject Biography is holding a three month long assessment drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unassessed articles. The drive is running from June 1, 2007 – September 1, 2007.

Awards to be won range from delicacies such as the WikiCookie to the great Golden Wiki Award.
There are over 110,000 articles to assess so please visit the drive's page and help out!

This drive was conceived of and organized by Psychless with the help of Ozgod. Regards, Psychless ^{Type words!}.

It has been started =). Thanks for your input.

I couldn't say it better myself

I couldn't say it better myself!

I have had the very unpleasant experience of interacting with administrators who acted with almost complete disregard for these policies. Two of them violated the prohibition on threats as well...

Cheers! Geo Swan 01:19, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

AFC

No worries, and it seems you also have an Rfa going on! You might also be interested in the new WikiProject Articles for creation. Feel free to drop by and check it out.--Xnuala (talk)(Review) 02:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Biography Summer Assessment Drive

WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive!

WikiProject Biography is holding a three month long assessment drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unassessed articles. The drive is running from June 1, 2007 – September 1, 2007.

Awards to be won range from delicacies such as the WikiCookie to the great Golden Wiki Award.
There are over 110,000 articles to assess so please visit the drive's page and help out!

This drive was conceived of and organized by Psychless with the help of Ozgod. Regards, Psychless ^{Type words!}.

ZZ-importance?

Hello, I noticed that you rated Ian Fleming and some other Release Version articles "ZZ" importance scale, appearing to be a redlink on talk pages. Can you clarify about this? Thanks! Wooyi^{Talk to me?} 16:26, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Re:Rfa

The comment was directed to everyone. Have a nice week and God bless:)--James, La gloria è a dio 20:48, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

James, La gloria è a dio has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Your RfA

Your request for adminship was not successful on this occasion. I hope that you will continue your useful contributions to Wikipedia and perhaps consider standing again in future. Remember, the majority of comments were in support, and many of those opposing were keen to see you gain a little more experience. Warofdreams talk 03:20, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

FYI

I had to think a long time about your {{rfa}}. I really liked your answer to my question. But I really strongly disagree with some of your statements around {{afd}}.

Sorry, I had decided I could leave a support vote on the {{rfa}}, but only after I left you a note, here explaining why I disagreed with your {{afd}} comments. And I missed the deadline.

Would you please review User:Geo Swan/working/Guantanamo related articles which have been nominated for deletion?

Walid Said Bin Said Zaid is the last entry in the table.

I really am left with the impression that neither you, or the other participants read the article with sufficient care to form a fair assessment of its worth. And, very unfortunately, I have found it is typical of the {{afd}} fora that participants rarely return, after leaving their comments, to see if a counter-argument had been offered for the concerns they raised, or whether someone used the discussion period to make an improvement.

Responses like user:nick mallory's are very, very common -- participants who regard civil questions as personal attacks, and respond in kind.

Let me know if you choose to run for admin in the future.

Cheers! Geo Swan 23:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I responded on my talk page. Note: Like user:nick mallory, User:Resolute has leveled ugly accusations when asked to explain himself more fully.

Cheers! Geo Swan 15:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your latest reply. I too have replied.

For the record, I do not regard myself as an inflexible guy. I do acknowledge when I have been wrong. And I can apologize, when the situation merits it. Cheers! Geo Swan 16:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks anyways. I sent you an e-mail telling you about that I needed help but I found out how to do!Thanks for your awesome help in the Trivia section on the Judy Garland page.YOUR AWESOME!! From Valusa--Valusa 05:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Help

Um, Ozdog can you help me with something? How can you make those contents square things that show everything that is in your article?I need one for my User page. It would be great if you could help me!Well thanks for everything :) From:Valusa--Valusa 05:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

How did you that, I mean it was so fast and everything. Hey thanks a lot. You really have helped. Thanks Man!! I have to wait till tommorow to put it in my User page.Have you seen my user page yet? Thanks again:) From Valusa--Valusa 05:47, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Great

Hey thanks!Don't worry i'll be carful Ozgod.Hey since when have you been a Judy Garland fan?

                                   From:--Valusa 05:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC) Valusa

My RfA ...

Hi. Thanks for supporting my request for adminship. It was successful and I am now an admin. If I can ever be of help, please let me know. Cheers, Black Falcon ^(Talk) 06:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Help! Again!

Ozgod, I need more help. I am trying to see where you can create a new article, but I can't find out how to anywhere. I found out about Judy Garland when my friend and I saw the Wizard of OZ about two years ago. It was my first time seeing the movie. When I got home later that day I decided to do some research on her in Google. By 2 days later I was already buying books on her in Barnes & Noble. In about in a week I already knew almost anything about her. The research on her also led me to Mickey Rooney, who I also know a lot about. I have told everybody in my school about Mickey and Judy. By now everybody already knows about Mickey but not exactly Judy. They all know Mickey Rooney as the funny security gaurd in Night at the Museam. When we watched Night at the Museam at school everybody was yelling "Hey, Mickey Rooney is in this movie".Well there's a lot more to the story, but it is really long.I've been on the lookout for biography arcticles with Trivia sections so I can delete them. I hope I find some soon!:) From: Valusa--Valusa 06:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi Ozgod! Thanks to your great help I started an article on a place I have been to a lot. It's called the Garden Cafe which is located in the Grand America Hotel. My article is very short right now and I hope it won't get deleted. Im doing more research on it. Well, Bye and thanks to all the help you have given me:):). From:--Valusa 07:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfA

Thanks for your support (the final one) in my recent, unsuccessful RfA. It's much appreciated. IvoShandor 16:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Update

It's no problem. A lot of people seem to be confused with the table. We're counting the progress on assessed articles, not unassessed articles. I think we also need a genius idea on how to get articles improved. Possibly a drive to reduce the number of stubs to below 200,000? Anyways, I'm glad the drive is doing well so far :). --Psychless 16:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Salem Witch Trials Coverage on Wikipedia

Hi Ozgod,

I know that you are very involved in Wikiporject Biography. That is why I need your help. I also contacted Psychless as well with the same concern.

Wikipedia's coverage of the Salem Witch Trials is absolutely terrible. Most of the people involved don't even have biographies written about them. Plus, the biographies that do exist are horrible. They are ridden with vandalism, nonfactual information, spelling and grammar errors, and they do not have a Neutral Point of View. Most of them probably have to be re-written! Also, most of the existing biographies are stubs anyway.

That is why another Wikipedian, Cocoaguy, and I created Salem Witch Trials Task Force.

Unfortunately, we only have two other members. And four people alone can not do all of this work! Is it possible that we can team up with you and Wikiproject Biography, so we can get more members for our task force and hopefully improve Wikipedia's coverage of the Salem Witch Trials?

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Psdubow 21:17, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Come party with us!

WikiProject Musical Theatre wants your help! You are listed as either an active or an inactive participant of WikiProject Musical Theatre. This project has been dormant for a while, but we are very close to reaching consensus on several of the project's main documents (see the talk page for details). Once we get that business and formality out of the way, we are all free to attack the musical theatre articles of Wikipedia and have a wonderful Musical Theatre party! We want you to be a part of that! So, come and join us! Add your input to the last few business items and then let's get this party started! -- The WikiProject Musical Theatre team. P.S. Invite your friends to join to! We need all the help we can get!

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Fanmag modernscreen feb1955 judygarland.jpg)

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Hi!

Hi Ozgod, well thanks for cheeking up on me in Wikipedia. Well i'm doing good on Wikipedia and I made a new arcticle about Mickey Rooney's ex wife, Elaine Devry and i'm trying to find more information about the Garden Cafe. Well, thanks for everything! --Valusa 20:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Judygarland fanmagazine portrait 1962.jpg)

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Orphaned non-free image (Image:Judygarland mgm publicitystill2.jpg)

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ER

It was my pleasure. I finished your review with some short comments. Wishes, wpktsfs 03:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

1.0 team

Hi Ozgod, I hope you're doing well. Thanks again for your help at WP:V0.7, and the WP:BIO assessments are very helpful too.

I'm going away for a few days (to do two wikitalks, but the break with my family is welcome too!), I will be back on Thursday 28th. I don't expect to have good internet access. Can you keep an eye on things over at WP:1.0 while I'm away & deal with questions, particularly those related to Version 0.7? If you have time, it would be good if you can keep the 0.7 reviews ticking over, too. I've also asked User:Warlordjohncarter to help, he is doing a lot of good work on WP:WVWP and unassessed articles. Please let me know. All the best, Walkerma 04:13, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Walkerma 04:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you X 100

Thank you very much for supporting my RfA, which closed successfully yesterday... W00t! I hope to be a great admin (and editor) and I'm sure you can tell that my use of a large, boldfaced, capital "T" and a big checkmark image in this generic "thank you" template that I swiped from some other user's Talk Page that I totally mean business! If you need anything in the future or if you see that I've done something incorrectly, please come to my Talk Page and let me know. So now I've got a bunch of reading to do.... see you around! - eo 13:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Have A Smile! Valusa has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Thank you Thank you for your support and comments at my RfA Hi Ozgod, It still amazes me that otherwise "anonymous" editors take the time to place !votes and comments on RfAs. Whilst I would have normally thanked you at the time of you leaving your message, the importance of my not appearing to be canvassing prevented me from so doing. Now that everything has progressed successfully I can finally thank you. I intend to uphold a style of good adminship and will welcome your further comments at any time in the future, even if they are in the form of admonishment. I will be happy to help as an admin wherever and whenever I can --VS talk 22:45, 27 June 2007 (UTC) RfA thanks Hi Ozgod. Thank you for your support and kind words in my RfA, which passed with 95 support, 1 oppose, and 1 neutral !votes. It means a lot to me to have your individual support and the collective support of so many others. I truly will strive to carry myself at a level representing the trust bestowed in me as I use the mop to address the never-ending drips of discontent in need of caretaker assistance. Jreferee (Talk) 07:40, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Great. I'm afraid that announcing our project at the community portal is turning out to be self-destructive. Now we've attracted two people who show clear opposition to our project, and for extra fun they're administrators. I do hope they realize that just because they're administrators doesn't make their opininons more important than ours. Which project is that? -- Jreferee (Talk) 00:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC) My RfA Thank you for participating in my RfA. It was successful, and I am now, may God have mercy on us all, an administrator. Look at all the new buttons! I had heard about 'protect,' 'block user,' and 'delete,' but no one told me about 'kill,' 'eject,' and 'purée.' I appreciate the trust the community has in me, and I'll try hard not to delete the main page or block Jimbo. -FisherQueen (Talk) 17:56, 2 July 2007 (UTC) My recent RfB Thank you so much for your participation in my recent RfB. Though it closed with 72% support (below the required 90%), I'm still quite pleased at the outpouring of support shown by a fair percentage of the community. I'm currently tabulating and calculating all opposing and neutral arguments to help me better address the community's concerns about my abilities as a bureaucrat. If you'd like, you can follow my progress (and/or provide additional suggestions) at User:EVula/admin/RfB notes. Thanks again! EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC) Misuse of Infobox criminal Your thoughts/participation at Misuse of Infobox criminal would be welcome. -- Jreferee (Talk) 17:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC) Possible Vandalism in article Steve Urkel Whoops, apologies. Looks like someone you've been pestering about vandalism changed pages and it looked like you were the suspect. Feel free to edit this out :-) My RfA Thank you for your comments in my recent RfA. However, it was unsuccessful. I am in no way disheartened, and I am working on all the constructive critisism I have received. Hopefully next time I will have sorted out everything you pointed out. If you have any further suggestions or comments, feel free to drop me a line on my talk page, and I will be happy to respond. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 05:07, 8 July 2007 (UTC) AFC Backlog Drive! WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive WikiProject AFC is holding a one month long assessment drive! The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from July 15, 2007 – August 15, 2007. Awards to be won range from delicacies such as the WikiCookie to barnstars. There is a backlog of more than one year, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out! This drive was organized by GrooveDog in an attempt to terminate that nasty backlog. GrooveDog (talk) 01:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC) so, is it considered kosher, at least in your 'hood, to remove images that other folks have posted? Carptrash 02:08, 12 July 2007 (UTC) That's fine. If suggesting that you poked me (sort of a "poking fun" pun) with my own diaper pin is beyond uncivil then you must live a fairly sheltered life. A good thing, no doubt. My Rules are made to be broken image was one I was rather proud of, given that I put it together in 10 minutes or so and the image of the engraving tools was posted by some 3rd party who might be wondering just where it went?. But I certainly do not wish get get into anything ugly with you, or anyone else. it's just that bureaucrats, which is what many of the folks there seem like, appear to be such a joyless, such a humorless lot filled with The RULES are and that sort of thing that . .... that I just can't help myself. Call it a compulsive disorder, ADD, or just a belief that life is supposed to be fun. Carptrash 02:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC) They still exist on the server. - a classic bueraucrat move. They exist - just no one can see them or refer to them or even find them and they will become orphans and get deleted. In the meantine, if need be, we can debate the meaning of existance. But this is fine. Under the rug is probably where all this belongs. Carptrash 03:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Well there you have it. You have explained the meaning of existance, our somewhat adversarial images are removed, and that other editor has what s/he needs. Life is good. Carptrash 15:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Fair use rationale for Image:Teenagejudygarland mgmpublicitystill2.jpg Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Teenagejudygarland mgmpublicitystill2.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Malkinann 03:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Mate, saying it's from MGM as a publicity photo is a source, not a rationale. A rationale is that it shows Garland in an iconic point in her career, for example. Please look through the non-free content criteria policy if you're unsure on what's needed on that page. -Malkinann 10:58, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Task Force You are being recruited by the Salem Witch Trials Task Force, a collaborative project committed to improving Wikipedia's coverage of the Salem Witch Trials. Join us! Psdubow 15:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Pinedale Shores, Saint Clair County, Alabama I'm not sure that a real inhabited town has ever been a speedy candidate before. It is sourced, follow the link yourself. As far as I can tell, no real town has ever been deleted in AfD and I'd be surprised if this were the first. The original version, before another Pinedale Shores was found at USGS, was at Pinedale Shores, Alabama and nominated in its attack-page ramble form for deletion. As you can see from the comments at the Afd, even in that form it had its keepers, I don't think its in too much jeopardy now and neither should it be speedied. Carlossuarez46 23:19, 13 July 2007 (UTC) I ask you to remove the speedy request from the article. I will also point you to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes which is not policy but does have some relevant observations on Afd outcomes: "Cities and villages are notable, regardless of size". Carlossuarez46 23:23, 13 July 2007 (UTC) All cities and towns are interently notable per Wikipedia. If you want to take it WP:AFD, feel free, but I don't think a deletion attempt will be successful. Similarly, if someone speedies it, it'll go to WP:DRV and likely be overturned. Heck, at WP nearly any school is notable. One may not like it, but that's the way it is. Carlossuarez46 02:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC) For whatever reason, probably as a bright-line decision point?, the standard of notability for inhabited places is virtually a per se test: i.e., if it exists (and there is a reliable source that it exists, it is notable. The same seems to be inherently true for secondary schools, competitors in any (modern) Olympics, duke, and a number of others that (IMHO) are questionable standards for immediate inclusion. I'll admit I agree with the inhabited places standard for a number of reasons. Instead of fighting over the notability of every small village, dot on a map, etc., it is better to keep them all. Sooner or later (yes, a touch of the eventualist in me) someone from that dot on a map, or nearby, will expand it. I used to be a regular voice of deletion on secondary schools (high schools in the US) on notability grounds, but it was tilting at windmills. It seems to me odd that the dot on the map would not be notable but the high school there is. In most European countries, take Italy as an example, it is divided into regions, provinces, and comuni (essentially the cities, towns, and villages in the US). Unlike most of the US, there is no territory that doesn't belong to a comune (singular of comuni). So leaving a few comuni out because they are too small or just not noteworthy seems to indicate a lack of completeness to the encyclopedia and the red links will just invite re-creation. Just my thoughts. Carlossuarez46 16:23, 16 July 2007 (UTC) P.S. thanks for your support on my RfA. Carlossuarez46 16:23, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Fair use rationale for Image:Teenagejudygarland_mgmpublicitystill2.jpg Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Teenagejudygarland_mgmpublicitystill2.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 06:29, 15 July 2007 (UTC) Image:Judygarland_mickeyrooney_louisbmayer_mgmpublicitystill2.jpg I have tagged Image:Judygarland_mickeyrooney_louisbmayer_mgmpublicitystill2.jpg as {{no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 06:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC) Image:Awomanshomecompanio_march1945_judygarland_famag.jpg I have tagged Image:Awomanshomecompanio_march1945_judygarland_famag.jpg as {{no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 06:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC) Image:Judygarland_astarisborn_warnerbros_publicitystill_1954.jpg I have tagged Image:Judygarland_astarisborn_warnerbros_publicitystill_1954.jpg as {{no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. Thank you. 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Videmus Omnia Talk 06:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC) Image:Judygarland_publicitystill_2.jpg I have tagged Image:Judygarland_publicitystill_2.jpg as {{no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 06:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC) Takashi Yamamoto You flagged the Takashi Yamamoto article as unreferenced, but all of the information in the article came from the databaseolympics.com site included in the "External Links" section. I think that the "unreferenced" flag should be removed. Ordinary Person 11:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC) My RfA Thank you very much for your participation in my recent unsuccessful RfA. I am very grateful for all of the advice, and hope that it will help me grow as an editor. Happy editing! Sincerely, Neranei T/C 11:45, 15 July 2007 (UTC) Admin request Little contribution to any article? You have obviously not read my statement or looked at my contributions properly. Look at my userpage and the significant contributions and article creations sections. You'll find that this point has been picked up by other users too. Lradrama 16:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC) My RfA Thank you for your support in my successful RfA. I appreciate the trust you and the WP community have in me. Thanks again! Carlossuarez46 22:33, 16 July 2007 (UTC) "Manual style" On this edit of yours: If you're reverting my edits because "instructions should read more manual style vs casual", then I have to say that what you seem to regard as "manual style" strikes me as flabby and turgid. My own penultimate edit was made when I was very sleepy. You made good changes to that. Certainly I have nothing in principle against having my prose edited by others in general or by you in particular. But if you think that (for example) Avoid spamming a large group of editors for help as the reaction may be adverse and counterproductive to what you look to achieve. is an improvement on (Don't do so for more than two editors; even with the best intentions, this is likely to annoy.) then we have very different ideas about prose style. (I'm particularly puzzled by the use here of "look", which seems idiomatic but incongruously informal within that pompous sentence.) I suggest that you revisit my latest version, making judicious revisions to it. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see you improving it in places, but your flat rejection of all of it seems, well, "adverse and counterproductive" (a notion that's surely expressible in a single, well-chosen word). Perhaps you're just sleepy too. While I don't agree with all that you're doing, I do think you're well-intentioned and appreciate the effort you're putting into this. -- Hoary 01:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Lradrama's RfA I don't quite understand your oppose vote on Lradrama's RfA. You state that s/he has made few edits to articles, but a detailed examination of his/her contrib history demonstrate that this is not true. Likewise, you refer to the candidate "having been blocked", which also is not true, as no blocks appear in the block log. Were you getting this candidate confused with someone else? WaltonOne 09:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Fair enough - I see you've withdrawn the block statement. On the other points, I guess you're entitled to your opinion, though I'd urge you to watch CAT:CSD on a busy day and see whether it affects your high expectations for potential admins. :-) WaltonOne 13:38, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Judy Garland Images I'm not exactly sure why the template is malfunctioning - perhaps User:Quadell, who listed the images for deletion, didn't follow the rest of the steps exactly. I'd suggest reading over the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria policy and the Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline, and then making a longer fair use rationale for each image that closer fits the guideline and policy. -Malkinann 12:36, 19 July 2007 (UTC) New to WikiProject Criminal Biography I am a fairly new member to this project. I am trying to start a Serial Killer task force. I have found a few members who would like to join. Any suggestions on how to start one? What are your interests as far as Crime goes? Jmm6f488 23:09, 19 July 2007 (UTC) AFC Barnstar debate underway WikiProject Articles for Creation needs your input! A debate is currently underway concerning a project Barnstar, and the input of all members of the WikiProject is requested. When you get the chance, please drop by the project talk page here and voice your opinion. Due to the size and nature of our project, everyone's opinion counts, so don't be left out! Thanks for your time, and happy editing! Hersfold (talk/work) 02:39, 23 July 2007 (UTC) Note: You are receiving this message because you are listed as a participant of WikiProject AFC. If you do not want to continue receiving these messages, please make a note on the project page next to your name. Thanks. Barnstar time!!! The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar For your always concise, accurate, and consistent work with vandal-fighting and reporting at AIV. Jmlk17 04:18, 23 July 2007 (UTC) John Warford Regarding your edit summary of Changed back to References. It generates a list in which you use sources to reference within the article - like the one used in paragraph one, I would like to point out that this article was already using reflist before you edited it so you don't need to explain how that works. Regarding the section heading itself, Wikipedia:Citing sources#Section headings says that Notes, Footnotes, and References are all acceptable choices for a footnote section title so there is no "correct" choice to be made between these options. This is a relatively trivial matter, but I feel it necessary to point out that "Notes" is just as acceptable of a heading as "References." Most articles in WP:WPND have been using "Notes" for quite a while now so that is why that section heading appears in the John Warford article. Actually, when you take a look at this, "Notes" seems like the most logical section for a footnote section heading. That way, "References" can be saved for an alphabetical list of references. --MatthewUND(talk) 06:56, 23 July 2007 (UTC) Image:Teenagejudygarland_mgmpublicitystill2.jpg I have tagged Image:Teenagejudygarland_mgmpublicitystill2.jpg as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. If this image is being used as a link target instead of displayed inline, please add {{not orphan}} to the image description page to prevent it being accidentally marked as orphaned again. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 14:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC) Vandalism Warnings I have noticed that when you use the warning templates on user talk pages you often skip right to final warning such as on the user talk page 82.29.25.231 without going in order of 1,2,3... etc. Would you please consider giving out all the intermediate warnings before the final or last warning. Cheers Yamaka122 ...:) 16:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC) Other than that keep up the amazing anti-vandalism work :) Yamaka122 ...:) 16:10, 23 July 2007 (UTC) AIV reports Hi, Ozgod. Just a heads up - vandals should be reported to AIV only if they have vandalized after their final/only warning. Thanks for the great work you do fighting vandalism. Best regards, Anas talk? 16:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC) WikiProject Articles for creation WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive News! We are one week in to the drive, and it's already going fantastic. Numerous days of backlogs have been tackled, with hundreds of articles having been reviewed. We do, however, have some news! First off, a HUGE congratulations to everyone participating so far. I understand some members are inactive due to vacation, but we are still making great progress. Secondly, make sure that before you go off and review old submissions, that you review all submissions for the present day, and the day before, so that we aren't actually making a bigger backlog, by letting submissions get archived while we're checking stuff from 2006. Third, remember to update your running total, on the drive page. Honesty is the best policy, so if you lie about the number of articles you've reviewed, we'll all make angry faces while looking at your userpage. And, last, if you have any questions about the drive, feel free to ask me, or any other members of the project. Great job, everyone! We're going to get that backlog! GrooveDog Automatically delievered by HermesBot 08:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC) (Owner) James Alexander (1982- ) A {{prod}} template has been added to the article James Alexander (1982- ), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{db-author}}. Pfainuk 21:45, 25 July 2007 (UTC) RFGN Thanks for volunteering at RFGN! Hopefully it'll get some requests soon :-). If you haven't already, i'd recommend you read this page, it contains the basic procedure for clerks etc. Thanks! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 00:45, 31 July 2007 (UTC) Merge tag No problem, you can remove the tag since it seems to not be an issue. Sorry for the confusion! -YeLLeY511 02:56, 31 July 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 2 Thank you for taking the time to participate at the discussion in my Request for Adminship. Unfortunately the nomination did not succeed, but please rest assured that I am still in full support of the Wikipedia project. I listened carefully to all concerns, and will do my best to incorporate all of the constructive advice that I received, into my future actions on Wikipedia. If you can think of any other ways that I can further improve, please let me know. Best wishes, Elonka 04:12, 5 August 2007 (UTC) Sven-Eric Gamble Hello! I see you've tagged this as unreferenced, even when it is ref'd via IMDB. Is this enough or do I need something else? There are literally thousands of actor stubs on here with links to their IMDB page and they don't have the unref tag on them. Thanks. Lugnuts 19:43, 5 August 2007 (UTC) Nope, that's fine. Thank you! Lugnuts 19:48, 5 August 2007 (UTC) Update as per my query on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Films talk page, it is OK to cite IMDB for basic actor listings (filmography only), as per the acceptable usageWP:CIMDB. So I've removed the tag you placed on the article. I fully understand that if was to add some bio/trivia, etc, then it would need to be sourced by a 3rd party. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Lugnuts 18:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC) Assume good faith Please assume good faith when reverting some edits. The edit by a user on Judy's page was reverted with the comment "identified as vandalism" and it doesn't appear as such. It can be irritating for the user. -- Lyverbe 22:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC) My bad. I am so used to only using one button on the Twinkle Revert that it is sometimes automatic to simply click it. I should have used the AGF Rollback, my apologies. --Ozgod 22:40, 5 August 2007 (UTC) AFC News WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive News! We are nine days away from the end of the drive, and it's been fantastic! Many, many, many days of backlog have been tackled, and over 1500 articles reviewed! To start off, a HUGE THANKS to everyone who helped out with the coordination of the drive, and actually fighting the backlog in the drive itself. Everyone's done a great job helping out, no matter how many articles you've reviewed/ Remember to update your running total, on the drive page. This is the ONLY way that I will be able to give out awards appropriately. Lastly, I will be giving out awards on August 16th. Anyone who could help me, that would be fantastic. Contact me on my talk page if you'd like to volunteer. Great job, everyone! This Drive has been fantastic, and I'm sure that some members of the Project have definitely made friends by collaborating on the talk pages. Thanks, GrooveDog Leslie Wood references Dear Ozgod, I'm still unsure why Leslie Wood (illustrator) has a box in it as it patently does cite references and sources.... Thanks, GrahamHardy 18:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC) No answer so I'll try deleting it again. GrahamHardy 21:50, 8 September 2007 (UTC) WikiProject Biography Newsletter 5 The Biography WikiProject Newsletter Volume IV, no. 4 - September 2007 Project News The three-month long Summer Assessment Drive, organized by Psychless, was a huge success! It ran from June 1 – September 1, and reduced the backlog of unassessed articles from 113,385 to 56,237. In all, over 100,000 articles were assessed. Over 60 people contributed in some way. A barnstar has been created for exceptional work on Wikipedia biographies and for assisting the project. The Biography Barnstar is listed with the other WikiProject awards and can be awarded easily with a template. See the template page for more details. Member News Congratulations to the editors who worked on the newest featured biographies: Augustus; William Shakespeare; Adriaen van der Donck; Alfred Russel Wallace; Alison Krauss; Anne Frank; Anne of Denmark; Asser; Bart King; Bill O'Reilly; Bobby Robson; Bradley Joseph; CM Punk; Ceawlin of Wessex; Colley Cibber; Cædwalla of Wessex; Dominik Hašek; Elizabeth Needham; Frank Macfarlane Burnet; Georg Cantor; Gregory of Nazianzus; Gunnhild Mother of Kings; Gwen Stefani; Hannah Primrose, Countess of Rosebery; Harriet Arbuthnot; Harry S. Truman; Henry, Bishop of Uppsala; Héctor Lavoe; Ine of Wessex; Ion Heliade Rădulescu; Jack Sheppard; Jackie Chan; Jay Chou; John Martin Scripps; John Mayer; Joseph Francis Shea; Joshua A. Norton; Kate Bush; Kazi Nazrul Islam; Kevin Pietersen; Martin Brodeur; Mary Martha Sherwood; Mary of Teck; Maximus the Confessor; Miranda Otto; Muhammad Ali Jinnah; P. K. van der Byl; Penda of Mercia; Pham Ngoc Thao; Rabindranath Tagore; Ramón Emeterio Betances; Red Barn Murder; Richard Hakluyt; Richard Hawes; Robert Garran; Roman Vishniac; Ronald Niel Stuart; Ronald Reagan; Roy Welensky; Rudolph Cartier; Samuel Adams; Samuel Beckett; Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough; Sarah Trimmer; Sargon of Akkad; Shen Kuo; Sophie Blanchard; Stereolab; Sydney Newman; Sylvanus Morley; Tim Duncan; Timeline of Mary Wollstonecraft; Uncle Tupelo; Waisale Serevi; Wallis, Duchess of Windsor; Walter Model; William Bruce; William Goebel; Yagan; Zhou Tong; Æthelbald of Mercia; Æthelbald of Mercia New Members Congratulations to our 225 new members From the Editors The newsletter is back! Many things have gone on during the past few months, but many things have not. While the assessment drive helped revitalize the assessment department of the project, many other departments have received no attention. Most notably: peer review and our "workgroups". A day long IRC meeting has been planned for October 13th, with the major focus being which areas of the project are "dead", what should our goals be as a project, and how to "revive" the dead areas of our project. Contribute to the discussion on the the new channel (see below) We decided to deliver this newsletter to all project members this month but only those with their names down here will get it delivered in the future. This is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue. Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned or post news on the next issue's talk page New irc channel Lastly, a new WikiProject Biography channel has been set up on the freenode network: #wikipedia-en-bio Our thanks to Phoenix 15 for setting it up. Contributors to this Issue Psychless (talk · contribs) Phoenix 15 (talk · contribs) Complete To Do List Write an article Expand an article about: a person an actor an animator an artist a bishop a businessperson a diplomat an educator an engineer a lawyer a military person a musician a photographer a saint a politician a scientist a sportsperson a writer Improve an article by: adding references adding categories Review an article Romano Volta • Suzanne Carrell • Mullá Husayn • John Gilchrist (linguist) • Thomas Brattle • Answer requests for comments Work on the Portal Portal:Biography Assess an article Assessment requests Unassessed articles Assessment Progress Biography articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Core Other ??? Total FA 34 1,589 1,623 FL 191 191 A 1 103 104 GA 41 8,056 8,097 B 92 37,073 37,165 C 36 159,182 159,218 Start 3 734,254 734,257 Stub 1,031,928 1 1,031,929 List 7,467 7,467 Category 2 195,422 195,424 Disambig 8,070 8,070 File 29,604 29,604 Project 1 197 198 Redirect 3 41,817 41,820 Template 12,655 12,655 NA 239 239 Assessed 213 2,267,847 1 2,268,061 Unassessed 32,388 32,388 Total 213 2,300,235 1 2,300,449 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 10,627,086 Ω = 5.39 We couldn't do it without you! To receive this newsletter in the future, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. This newsletter was delivered by the automated R Delivery Bot 15:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC) . WPMT Roll Call and COTM WPMT Roll Call and Collaboration of the Month! You're receiving this message because you are currently listed as a member of WikiProject Musical Theatre. Please post at the talk page to let us know if you're still with the project. Feel free to post on the talk page about what musical theatre-related work you're doing or to weigh in on the current discussions on the talk page. Nominations for our Collaboration of the Month are currently being accepted. What should we focus on for the month of November? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much, folks! Happy editing! —  MusicMaker5376 04:55, 20 October 2007 (UTC)