User talk:PCL1029

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Sure, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for you interest in improving Wikipedia/medical knowledge for the public. Your edit changed the summary (WP:LEAD) of the article drastically. But what should happen is this: one can update the relevant sections with reliable medical sources before (or in tandem with) changing the summary of the entire article. Your edit[1] also introduced formatting and grammatical errors and style problems that do not conform to the appearance of articles here. The article currently stands as one of a few thousand featured articles on Wikipedia, so I reverted it to "protect" its integrity. You know more about cholangiocarcinoma than I do, I'm sure of that. Was all of the information you added sourced to doi:10.3390/cancers3022243? I see that journal is not yet indexed by PubMed[2]. That doesn't mean it can't be used here, but I think that should make one hesitate. See Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) for more details. We should continue this discussion at Talk:Cholangiocarcinoma. Specifically, you could address where you think there are errors in the article. We don't hide medical knowledge because it might "offend" though. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 18:33, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

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Again, welcome!  Biosthmors (talk) 18:34, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Reference formatting[edit]

Well, you don't have to format your references perfectly to edit here of course, but a decent formatting is appreciated. Here is how you could cite Patel: <ref name="Patel">{{cite journal| author=Patel T | title=Cholangiocarcinoma—controversies and challenges | journal=Nat Rev Gastroenterol Hepatol | year= 2011 | volume= 8 | issue= 4 | pages= 189-200 | pmid=21460876 | doi=10.1038/nrgastro.2011.20 }}</ref>. You could just copy and paste that. To get that, I went here[3] and just pasted the doi from Nature[4] into the bar and clicked submit. (I made a couple minor changes after that.) You can go to Help:Citation tools to find more options like that website, under Tools. They pretty much all use the Template:Cite journal (you can see details on how it is set up there, but that's not necessary knowledge). There are many options to formatting references, but typically it is best to copy whatever format is already used in the article. Cholangiocarcinoma uses the cite journal template. Patel is a great start to incorporate into the article as it is a solid journal and a review (which is considered a secondary source). The NEJM primary article is already cited in Patel (and several other reviews), so I don't see any value in trying to cite it. And I would obtain consensus at Talk:Cholangiocarcinoma or WT:MED before citing Furuse[5]. So I recommend sticking with Patel for now, and, as you can see at WP:REFNAME you can type <ref name="Patel"/> to cite the source the second, third, etc. times. One only needs to cite the long version one time somewhere in the article. Good luck! Let me know if you have any questions or you can also use the help technique as described above. I don't recommend spending two hours on something like that again if you can avoid it. =) Happy editing. Biosthmors (talk) 18:28, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

One easy way to insert (medical) citations is to just use the cite button above the edit field and then click templates -> cite journal. There you can enter a pubmed id and the rest will be filled out automatically once you click the search icon next to it. --WS (talk) 06:31, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


Hi, and welcome. I heard over at the Medicine WikiProject that you were interested in updating our article on cholangiocarcinoma. I'd be happy to help in any way you'd find useful. I worked on the article quite a bit several years ago, but it hasn't had a comprehensive update in a while. It's great that you're interested, and I hope you find it a rewarding experience.

Like I said, if there's anything I can do to help (retrieving sources, helping with formatting/markup/references, discussing this site's somewhat idiosyncratic policies, etc.), please let me know. You can leave a note here (I should see it), or on my talk page: User talk:MastCell. Happy editing! MastCell Talk 17:49, 29 March 2012 (UTC)