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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! RadioFan (talk) 01:20, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because your username, Paddle8, does not meet our username policy.

Your username is the only reason for this block. You are welcome to choose a new username (see below).

A username should not be promotional, related to a "real-world" group or organization, misleading, offensive or disruptive. Also, usernames may not end in the word "bot" unless the account is an approved bot account.

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Daniel Case (talk) 19:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Paddle8 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

ArtFan2011 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Decline reason:

The combative nature of the interactions below show that the editor is unable to work within the community nature of this project. The responses they provide when shown the actual community-driven policies are unfortunate - You're not the first person to be blocked for this reason, and you're not the first to make similar arguments. You'll either decide to follow the rules that you agreed to when you made your first edit, or you will not be editing this project. Beware: block evasion and asking someone else to create articles on your behalf are also subject to further blocks (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:42, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here are a few key questions:

Do you understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a business directory?
Do you understand conflict of interest?
Do you understand that to be considered for an encyclopedia article, the subject must be notable?

You are currently blocked because your username appears directly related to a company, group or product that you have been promoting, contrary to the username policy. Changing the username will not allow you to violate the 3 important principles above. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 22:00, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If the entry had the spirit of a 'promotional' piece as your peers have been suggesting, your organization's roadblocking of this entry may be understandable. However, the article has been pared down to the purely factual, which your encyclopedia is meant to be. Do you block all companies from having Wikipedia pages? Paddle8 is a member of a small collection of art-related startups, such as Artsy.net and artnet.com. Both of which have Wikipedia pages, and I would suggest this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artsy_(website) is far more promotional than the above, with its name-dropping and so forth.

Addressing your questions:

First bullet: Yes. Your logic seems to have gone beyond the substantive content of the piece, to nitpicking about the username, for which a request to amend now too, is being roadblocked. If you would kindly refer back to the entry, you would find it to be purely factual, and in fact useful, to the research students, journalists, and general members of the (art world) public who are looking for information on Paddle8.

Second bullet: Yes. Please elaborate wherein the conflict of interest lies?

Final bullet: Questions of notability are surely subjective. Is the place of an encyclopedia not one of democracy, rather than placing value judgments? What are your metrics for gauging 'notability'?

First off, other articles and their content or tone is immaterial here. I and other editors and administrators have identified the article covering Paddle8 as promotional in nature. The username was a tipoff but is a separate issue. administrators are not going to reinstate this userid because it is related to a company. That is simply not allowed. If you, as a private person, not representing the company, wish to create a username, that's perfectly fine. As long as you do not use the account to promote this or any other company. I'm not understanding your question about conflict of interest. You appear to have a connection, you created an article and account named for a company. You should avoid editing any articles related to this company. Simply put, if the company is notable, someone else will create the article.--RadioFan (talk) 16:56, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Other articles are surely material as precedents, if Wikipedia is to be consistent in how it operates. Using the aforementioned comparison as an example (and it's relevant because it is a company comparable to Paddle8), the entry history shows its main contributor to be the very company's director of communications. That this article got through and ours didn't shows an inconsistency in how you approach these cases -- perhaps it is simply a case that this username was more obviously connected to the company than that one.

I would be curious to know how many 'notable' Wikipedia entries were written by people unaffiliated with the subject compared to those that weren't.

And your conflict of interest point again, obviates any scratching beneath the surface on your part, that would immediately show the limited content remaining to be nothing but factual. Please point out one adjective that would tilt the entry into the realm of 'promotional.'

The implied advise on your part is that Paddle8 should sit and wait until someone else 'ordains' the organization notable to the extent that they would go out of their way to write an entry on it.

Do you have anything more constructive to offer than that?

To answer the question "What are your metrics for gauging 'notability'?", see WP:N generally and WP:ORG specifically for companies and organizations. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:20, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]