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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:47, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Bird capitalisation[edit]

Sorry to revert you, but there has been a bitter battle for several years about this issue that came to a conclusion last year, where the community voted that we don't do capitalisation of bird names. I was (am) an advocate of capitalisation myself, but now several thousand bird articles have all been lowercased....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:47, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

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Re: Editing Suggestion[edit]

I thought I'd reply here so the links are on your talk page and you don't have to navigate back to mine to revisit them. There are many different ways to contribute to Wikipedia. I do a lot of behind the scenes stuff, organization and standardization of articles. I don't really do much to work expanding article content or adding new articles. I could suggest some tasks along the lines of what I do if you'd like. However, from what I've seen you like adding new articles and expanding content, and you do a good job while doing so. So, some suggestions for places to look for major content creation.

1. There are various lists of missing plant articles in Category:Missing_encyclopedic_articles_(plants). The most useful of these is User:Pengo/missing_plants. Pengo did a search of the literature corpus represented by Google Books, and compiled a list of the plants most frequently mentioned in books that don't yet have an article. Some of the red links in Pengo's will be synonyms where there is an article about that plant already under a different name. Some synonyms are explicitly noted in the list, but many are not, and sometimes there's a mistake in the explicitly noted ones. Double check the names in Pengo's list, but it's good place to find some badly needed articles on plants.

2. You'd have the biggest impact in terms of readers if you worked on expanding the articles they view the most; Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/Popular pages. Many of these are in terrible shape. I find them difficult to work on, as there is often quite a lot of content, but it is in need of a complete overhaul. The quality ratings aren't necessarily up to date, but there are many highly viewed Start class articles that could use some attention.

3. There's a report of plant articles that have been tagged with various cleanup banners. The articles that entirely lack sources are mostly 1-sentence stubs and really need expansion and sourcing.

I hope this helps you find some valuable work to do. I've been assuming you're particularly interested in plants based on your contributions so far (and my own interests). If there are other subjects you'd like to work on as well, there are equivalent missing encyclopedic article categories, popular page reports and cleanup banner reports for many other topics.

EDIT: Oh, I should mention, I have User:AlexNewArtBot/PlantsSearchResult on my watchlist and check it on a near-daily basis. That's probably mostly why you see me all over your watchlist. If you want to check over new plant articles, I'd appreciate the help.

Plantdrew (talk) 02:09, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

@Plantdrew: I can't thank you enough, these suggestions are amazing. I will have no shortage of work to do now, which is pretty great. Also, I just put User:AlexNewArtBot/PlantsSearchResult a couple of hours ago because I assumed that's what you used, funnily enough.


Hi, I thought you might want to read this. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:03, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

@Kudpung: I actually was looking at that no more than five minutes ago when I was rereading the RfA page, but thanks for the advice. User:Pagliaccious 05:07, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

A page you started (Dissotis rotundifolia) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Dissotis rotundifolia, Pagliaccious!

Wikipedia editor Blythwood just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

I've added a taxonbar and an extra book source, also linked to Wikipedia articles in other languages. Hope that's OK.

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Blythwood (talk) 21:07, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

A page you started (Heteronympha cordace) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Heteronympha cordace, Pagliaccious!

Wikipedia editor Animalparty just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Thanks for contributing this! You might consolidate the short sections in "Ecology" section, so that this reads less like a field guide and more like an encyclopedia article.

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--Animalparty! (talk) 18:40, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

A Blazing Star for you![edit]

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Many thanks for stepping up and rewriting the Pit (botany) page; even an ignnoramus like me who doesn't know an angiosperm from an abaxial can understand it now. Yunshui  14:02, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

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Link disambiguated, PedunclePeduncle. Thanks, Pagliaccious (talk) 13:26, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hurray bats![edit]

Hey, I saw you added your name to the list of participants for the bats work group. Let me know if you'd be interested in collaborating on an article some time! Enwebb (talk) 15:21, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Enwebb, absolutely! I'm working on improving the Indian Flying Fox article right now if you'd like to help. Pagliaccious (talk) 15:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Excellent, that's consistently one of the most popular bat pages. I'll see what I can add. Enwebb (talk) 16:03, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
So, usually when I edit, I'll make an article passable and then move on. The Indian flying fox is coming along so nicely, though, I think we could shoot for GA. Probably just needs more attention to the first 3 sections. What do you think? Enwebb (talk) 05:07, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
That's just what I was thinking! I think we can get the article to GA pretty soon at this rate, and I completely agree that those first few sections need a bit more attention. I'll get on it tomorrow. Pagliaccious (talk) 07:14, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
Well, clearly you've seen that the article got some feedback on the mammals talk page. Nice work expanding the description more. I was thinking about adding more to the Distribution and habitat section, but other than that, I'm not sure what else could be done. One person pointed out that the longevity info seemed out of place in the description section, but I'm not sure where else it could logically go. Thoughts? Other ideas on what's left to do? Enwebb (talk) 02:06, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Yeah the distribution and habitat section is definitely lacking, but other than that I don't have many ideas for what we could work on. Maybe more on culture? I suppose besides distribution and habitat I'll just do some general spelling and punctuation checking. I'm not sure where else the age stuff could go to be honest, so I think it's fine where it is. Great work! Pagliaccious (talk) 13:29, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Not sure if you saw, but it passed GA review today! Enwebb (talk) 17:32, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Awesome! Sorry for not being there to help, I've been really busy with schoolwork lately. I'm back in business now though! Pagliaccious (talk) 18:53, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Template: this is unreadable shit[edit]

If you think the Oedera capensis article is too technical, you'd better have a look at the 1000 articles I have substantially contributed to thus far. You will see that all of them are at least as technical. One of them is GA and another FA. You'd be wanting to put your template with all of them. And a template like this basically says: do not attempt to read this, you will not be able to understand it. In that case, I would be tempted to reduce all of them to the level that no one puts a template there any more. It is so easy to discredit an article and let someone else guess what exactly should be improved. Dwergenpaartje (talk) 09:18, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Dwergenpaartje Geez, calm down. I'm sorry for putting that template on the article. This isn't Simple English Wikipedia I suppose. I'll take it off and I shouldn't have put it there in the first place. But please don't be so angry towards me! I just made a mistake. Pagliaccious (talk) 16:32, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for these words. I did overreact, too much stress at work and some private troubles with my mom loosing it at her old age. Everything can be improved, please help me by being specific which words or phrases are too difficult for the average reader. I guess I may have gotten used so much to the jargon, I may sometimes not be aware that it is jargon. Sorry, I hope I did not disturb your inner balance too much.
By the way, the over referencing in many Iris articles is horrible, and if you read Dutch, perhaps you may enjoy the bee orchid article in that language. Dwergenpaartje (talk) 02:26, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
I think the easiest way to make a plant article more readable is to explain some of the vocabulary. The plant itself isn't hard to understand but I find that most of my friends don't know what a peduncle is. But I don't think my technical cleanup box was really needed in the first place. I hope things calm down at work for you and I hope things with your mother improve! Best wishes Pagliaccious (talk) 07:19, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

A page you started (Hypericum punctatum) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Hypericum punctatum, Pagliaccious!

Wikipedia editor Nick Moyes just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Nice article. Just a couple of observations for you to consider fixing: Firstly, mixing dm, cm and mm in measurements i a bit confusing. Perhaps convert 5-10 dm to 50-100cm in the convert template, as the former is rarely used as a unit in this context. Then perhaps remove the capital letters from common names (which I personally like, but Wikipedia MOS doesn't) as well as from Syrphid and Halctid as these are not generic names, but adjectives describing the genera. (Again, I personally like to see caps there, but it's not a MOS convention to use them as far as I'm aware). This article could be a good candidate for a DYK if you're interested in putting in the work to take it there. Cheers.

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Nick Moyes (talk) 14:58, 15 August 2018 (UTC)


Hello Pagliaccious,

Thanks for fixing the mistakes I've been making on plant pages lately (for example on Habenaria propinquior). I'm a bit of a perfectionist and hate having even the smallest spelling/punctuation/syntax blunder. Your work is much appreciated. Gderrin (talk) 23:08, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@Gderrin: I quite enjoy making these minor improvements on plant articles. I've noticed that you often have wikilinks to disamb pages, and what I do to easily spot the disambiguation links is to turn on the orange display feature in "preferences". If you go to preferences, then to gadgets, then appearance, fifth from the bottom is the feature "Display links to disambiguation pages in orange". If you turn this on, disamb wikilinks will be orange rather than blue, and stand out clearly in articles.
And thank you for your tremendous contributions and creation of orchid articles. You're the one editor I see most constantly and consistently creating great plant articles. Pagliaccious (talk) 13:50, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 Done Thanks for the advice - will do. And great to get a message from "her" - Vesti la giubba!!! Gderrin (talk) 05:22, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Hypericum punctatum[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 10 September 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hypericum punctatum, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that though caterpillars feed on the leaves of Hypericum punctatum, the foliage is toxic to mammals? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hypericum punctatum. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hypericum punctatum), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Ficus amplissima editing[edit]

Dear friend,

First of all, let me extend my thanks to you for showing interest in an article created by me on an Indian tree and helping it extensively to become close to perfect.

My friend, I am a B. Tech in Comp. Sc. Engineer and not a Botany expert, but decided to give my 100% to this article because I am a tree and plant lover. I first got info about this tree during my general walk through of Ficus genus Wikipedia page. I started to find info about this tree on Google, but it came out that this tree didn't have too many studies published on internet. So, with whatever 7-8 websites I found, I tried to collect, join, modify and merge info from those websites to create and build a decent article on Wikipedia. Honestly, finding info about this tree on internet was an utterly tough task. I spent 3 days specifically finding that info itself. Then, I spent 4 days by combining and writing this article.

When you started editing this page by placing "copypaste" template on the top of it, my task had not finished yet friend. I had just taken break due to a scheduled interview and I would have edited this page extensively during the coming days. But all thanks to you, you made my task a lot easier.

Regarding the copy and paste edits, those edits were copied from a website where the content was available to be reused as it is under CC BY NC 3.0, with a condition to add a proper citation, which I did infact in every single line that I copied. That's why I had to copy same references every single time.

Lastly, I deeply feel that my task of writing a complete article on a tree about which too little info is available to be cited and used and considering the fact that I am not a Botany expert but just a tree lover, should have been at least appreciated and applauded once.

Anyway, Thank you for reading such a long paragraph with patience.

With Regards Deepanshu M. (talk) 05:41, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

@Deepanshu1707: I am sorry for putting the copy/paste box on the top of the page. I was unaware that the content you used was under that Creative Commons license and I should have done more research before putting the cleanup box on the page. The article you've written so far is fantastic though, and I hope you keep it up! If you need to find more resources or references on topics like Ficus amplissima, you could look on Google Books, Google Scholar, or perhaps the Biodiversity Heritage Library. Pagliaccious (talk) 13:06, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Dear Pagliaccious,

Thanks once again for recognizing my efforts, and I will write more articles on trees of Ficus genus in forthcoming days. There was no need of sorry, as you were also doing your work. I honestly didn't talk to you here for a "sorry", but I thought that I should clarify my point of view to you regarding this article and its edits.

Cheers! Deepanshu M. (talk) 14:21, 12 September 2018 (UTC)