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Wishing you all the best . . .[edit]

And may all your holidays be merry and bright . . . Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:32, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

@Dirtlawyer1: Thanks, hope yours were/are as well. PaleAqua (talk) 23:23, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Deletion nomination[edit]

Just a reminder, PaleAqua (or do you prefer #BCD4E6?) that when you nominate anything for deletion, you should usually notify the creator of that work about the nomination. This is especially true when the nominated material was created just a couple of months ago. Fortunately, another user told me that Template:X11 color chart had been nominated for deletion, but it would have been preferred to have the nominator make the notification. Anyway, I have suggested that the template be kept, and explained the reason it was created on the discussion page. Happy editing! (Due to watchlist backlog, please ping if you reply) Etamni | ✉   09:01, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

  • @Etamni: Thanks for the reminder. Sorry I should have double checked that twinkle did the merge discussions notifications correctly. PaleAqua (talk) 14:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Darker section titles in page history[edit]

To PaleAqua and Izno: The VPR thread has been archived. There is no activity visible in the phab ticket, not a single comment. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can easily imagine this sitting for months or more, for lack of priority. I think we should make the change at en-wiki; then, if and when someone gets around to the core change, we can remove it; if their choice is different from ours, so be it.
My only reservation is that some of the !voting occurred before all of the options were conceived, and I feel the later options are better ones, being the result of discussion. If we chose an option based on the existing !voting, it might be 4, which is not be the best option in my opinion.
This is, of course, the problem with mixing the development of a proposal with !voting. WP:VPI is the answer to that problem, but it doesn't get enough attention to be effective. ―Mandruss  12:55, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Let's start with option 4 or 5 at Mediawiki talk:Vector.css or Mediawiki talk:Common.css (not sure which is better since I haven't checked Monobook background--Common.css is probably watched by more) and see if anyone comes along to complain. I have O5 implemented in my CSS and I've adjusted--still don't know that I like the straight letters in e.g. the watchlist/RC but in the page diff/history it's AOK. Either way, we can point to a consensus (small though it was), and when someone does come along to complain (or enough someones), we can start an RFC or something.

Regards VPI, I'm not sure I agree. I think the fact it's small is beneficial to idea generation and exploration and settling on some rough options for later consideration.

I'm not worried about the Phab ticket. If e.g. Edokter gets annoyed enough by its presence in local, I'm fairly certain he knows how to submit a code change and will probably do so. --Izno (talk) 13:42, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Actually I was hoping for 7, but 5 would be a significant improvement over current. I feel a font switch is important, which would exclude 1 thru 4. ―Mandruss  14:13, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
@Izno: Three months later, crickets on the phab ticket, awaiting triage. I.e., not considered important enough for anyone to assign it a priority. I hate being right all the time. Anybody besides me ready to actually move on this locally? I'm getting old, and I'd enjoy seeing some closure on this before I die. Izno, if we're still stalemated between 5 and 7, perhaps PA would care to break the tie, or flip a coin or something. ―Mandruss  11:18, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@Mandruss: That's normal for some tickets in phabricator, especially the accessibility ones. I've been watching the ticket and also have noted the deadness...

As I suggested above, make a concrete proposal at either Mediawiki talk:Common.css or Mediawiki talk:Vector.css, noting that both 5 and 7 are options--that will be a second opportunity for other people to chime in, and the people at those places usually have opinions. :) --Izno (talk) 11:54, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@Izno: You're suggesting another round of discussion and debate, lasting who knows how long, in a far less public venue than VPR, when those people had their chance at VPR and either !voted or didn't, that could easily close with "no consensus to change". Are you serious?? It's like spending months to push a bill through Congress to correct the spelling on a fucking street sign. This is pure insanity. If that's the only path to closure, I'll go ahead and die without the closure. What a monumental cluster fuck! ―Mandruss  12:06, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
@Mandruss: That's your prerogative. Eventually someone will move on the ticket I think. --Izno (talk) 12:12, 5 May 2016 (UTC)


I've made a little proposal at Template talk:RMpmc#Appearance, and since all this is still so new, I'd like your input.  What's in your palette? Paine  17:15, 26 June 2016 (UTC)