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The third 32KB of my talk page (November 2006 - February 2008).

Trying to get in contact with you - YKP football[edit]

I haven't seen you back on Xtalk since summer.

I was in YKPAIHA for the World Cup and was in the offices of the PFL and got some intreresting things of which I wanted to pass on to you since you spent a good period of time with ukrainiansoccer forums knocking heads with all.

If you are interested please send a forwarding address and I will send you those items.

Fedya Fussball Champion YKPAIHIAH Tipster 2005 - PFL

Hey there, I sent an email out to your telcordia address a week ago, but I guess I still have not received a response. Let me know if thats still your current address so I can resend it again, cheers! --Palffy 07:50, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Panairjdde is back[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#The_return_of_User:Panairjdde.2FUser:Kwame_Nkrumah_etc. if you wish to comment. Jayjg ^(talk) 02:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Containing Panairjdde[edit]

Hi there--I've created a page aimed at gathering volunteers to help enforce the community ban on Panairjdde. I know you've had to deal with him since last summer, at least, and was hoping you'd sign on. Take a look and tell me what you think. Dppowell 01:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's definetly time to deal with him once and for all. Kingjeff 03:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian Football culbs[edit]

Hey i seen that you contribute a lot to ukrainian clubs and decided to say hi, and thank you for your hard work. I am also in process of expanding the articles. I hope we can work together on this. thank you. MaksKhomenko 15:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

== Ukrainian Football ==[edit]

Having looked at those articles i have noticed that I have over designed those two pages. However, i have noticed that the template for the squad that I have used is different from the template that was used in other articles. Although both templates are purposed for football team squads. Therefore I decided not to remove them, just yet. Can you please clarify the situation with the templates for the football team squads.

Thank You. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MaksKhomenko (talk • contribs) 19:50, 26 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Ok, I have read the discussion page about the use of templates, however I didn't understand what is the final verdict of that discussion, therefore i want to ask you shall I remove those templates and replace them with regular ones or shall I jut leave them the way they are? MaksKhomenko 20:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you for the information. From now on i will follow the standart and will edit those pages back to normal. MaksKhomenko 15:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ukrainian_First_League&diff=next&oldid=117211436[edit]

MFC Olexandria and PFC Olexandria are different clubs. PFC Olexandria (professional football club) is former FC Olexandria and early Poligraphtekhnika. And MFC Olexandria (Municipal Football Club) is municipal team what played two seasons in Ukrainian Second League with PFC Olexandria.--Ahonc (Talk) 22:38, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Panairjdde[edit]

In response to your invitation to the Panairjdde patrol, I'm afraid I won't be of much use as I no longer really monitor the pages he goes on any more, but I'm familiar with his style and will be on the lookout if anything appears suspicious. I'm watching the case as it goes along, and you have my support. -KingPenguin 00:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Players born in USSR[edit]

How should place of birth be represented in players born in the former USSR? After an edit war on the Andriy Shevchenko article this question has come to my mind. It's been common for a while now that all former USSR players have had the "place of birth" section assigned to their current country (for example Dvirkivschyna, Ukraine for shevchenko). What's the correct way? Current location or USSR? Xioyux 01:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Xioyux, The USSR was a union of diffrent separate republics (15 altogether), not a real nation. Coincidently, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic abriviates the same way -- USSR. You can safely put USSR, but then there is always going to be somebody who will argue that. People put Ukraine for simplicity, because he did, in fact, was born there and his nationality was also of Ukraine even though he was born as a citizen of the USSR. Even his name is clearly Ukrainian, ends with -ko. The correct way, of course, is the USSR.68.204.185.156 16:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PD-UA-exempt[edit]

Hi there, I noticed you edited the Template:PD-UA-exempt awhile back. You are welcome to contribute on a related Rfc page here, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/FC Vorskla Poltava image. Much appreciated, --Palffy 21:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, don't know that much about copyright law in Ukraine. The other people you contacted will probably be able to give you a better explanation. :-) — Alex^(U|C|E) 06:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Palffy. Thanks for your message, but I'm afraid this area is beyond my expertise which is limited to official heraldry. I'm not sure how this issue is interpreted "on the ground". Anyway, I hope a solution will be found. Happy editing. Valentinian ^{T / C} 12:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Andriy Shevchenko[edit]

Hi - I have added a comment on the Shevchenko talk page regarding your recent edit to remove his appearances for the Ukraine from the player infobox. I thought I would draw this to your attention out of courtesy. Best wishes. Daemonic Kangaroo 19:38, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:CIS_nft_crest.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:CIS_nft_crest.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Bigr Tex 19:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so, since it also says:

please add a detailed fair use rationale for each use, as described on Wikipedia:Image description page

This is a pretty non-standard fair use license. I doubt that hqfl.dk actually owns the copyright to the CIS national football team crest. It seems like it would be owned by the Association Football Federation of CIS or some similar organization. So hqfl.dk giving permission to use the image isn't worth much. ~ Bigr Tex 22:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your concerns. I have spent most of the last month working on tagging fair use images. There are a number of people that have been. The last couple of days have tended towards soccer logos, but there has been plenty of time spent on screenshots, album and movie covers, and promotional photographs.

The best person to write a good fair use rationale is the person who attaches an image to a page. Generally this is the person who uploads the image.

I don't know how many images I tagged yesterday, but there is a good chance that the vast majority of those will have the fair use rationales needed in the next week or two - there is another group of editors working through the categories these get placed in to work on attaching the rationales. If I had instead been working on writing rationales myself, I likely would not have added as many as were added to these images by others during the time I was tagging.

Further, if I had investigated the use of Image:CIS nft crest.jpg and decided that it's one use could be justified under the criteria and written a rationale for it without notifying you, then you still wouldn't understand that a rationale was required, and would not add one to the next fair use image you upload. Should I then go and write a rationale for that one? And the two after that? And for the uploads of the other how many uploaders that I notified yesterday?

I (and others) hope that by pushing to bring all of the images into compliance over the next couple of months, we can move on or back to other tasks. I don't think that I'm "afflicted with copyright paranoia", however I do tend to be a policy-gnome and have found that I'm much more effective working with images than with new page patrolling, or other article policy work. ~ Bigr Tex 14:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Transliteration policy[edit]

As a member of WikiProject Ukraine, you are invited to participate in the discussion about transliteration of Ukrainian words. I would appreciate your participation. Discussion is located here. Thank you. — Alex^(U|C|E) 17:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replaceable fair use Image:Avanhard_Stadium.jpg[edit]

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Panairjdde[edit]

Go take a nap or something. This will be over soon. Sometimes WP:RBI can be taken too seriously if someone has their trigger finger on the revert button. The Evil Spartan 23:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Award[edit]

I have proposed an award at the Ukraine Wikiproject - You appear to be a member of the project and I would like some feedback from you - thanks // Fi nns

Replaceable fair use Image:Yuvileiny_Stadium.jpg[edit]

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Replaceable fair use Image:Vorskla_Stadium.jpg[edit]

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Question[edit]

Sent you an email. Please check.--Riurik^(discuss) 05:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Football in Ukraine[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AFootball_in_Ukraine&diff=170147000&oldid=168857287

Hi— In what way or ways did this template look broken in both Firefox and IE? Looked (and looks) fine in both here. Sardanaphalus 21:52, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here are two screenshots of the Ukrainian Premier League page using both Firefox & IE6. --Palffy 00:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

and

The {{fb start}} and {{fb end}} format in Ukrainian Premier League is the clue; this format seems to be incompatible with the {{Navbox}} format used elsewhere in Wikipedia. Shall I look into how {{fb start}}, {{fb end}} and {{Navbox}} may be reconciled? Thanks for taking the trouble to produce the screenshots. Sardanaphalus 15:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's your call really, but you should probably check in with guidelines to see if its preferred..soccer-related pages all use the 'football box' (or fb) templates to stack well on top of each other, so have a look over at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Templates, among other pages, to see what other editors have preferred regarding soccer templates.. --Palffy 15:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Not so fast there buddy..."[edit]

I have reverted your reverts. Wikipedia:Naming conventions is very straightforward, and says that sports team articles are named by the common English name, in line with all other articles on Wikipedia (Kiev not Kyiv, Moscow not Moskva, Turin not Torino, etc). If you disagree with the policy, then discuss it on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions, rather than edit war against policy and accuse admins of being "abusive". Neil ☎ 16:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainians in the USSR national team[edit]

I think that we should consider the records of our players who played for the USSR national team as a part of "the soccer heritage", even though Russia is considered to be the direct "heir" of that. The USSR national team was for many years based on Dinamo Kyiv exclusively. The coaches and administrators that develop modern soccer in Ukraine, most of them, went through the "Dinamo school". I think that Blokhins record of playing 112 games and scoring 42 goals should be should be the goal for the new generation of soccer players in Ukraine. And it ought to be "carved" in history as well without splitting into past achievements and current ones. So what that Russia is recognized as the decendant of the Soviet football? Why should we gave our right at least on claiming what used to be ours? We still have it, don't we? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk • contribs) 21:16, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ROGER, WILCO ;) I'll polish it off, then. My apologies, next time I'll warn you about my other "crazy" ideas. OUT!Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 22:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dynamo/Arsenal Kyiv[edit]

I'm not sure which edits of mine you are referring to, but if you mean what I think you mean, then my edits were only to reflect the article's title at the time. Under the new rules, yes, the article should be at FC Dynamo Kyiv. – Pee Jay 20:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Revert of the move of Steaua[edit]

According to the title name of the English version official website, Steaua Bucharest is adapted. So the article name should be Steaua Bucharest, not Steaua Bucuresti per WP:NC#Sports teams. But there is ambiguity in the rest of the Bucharest team, so I haven't move them. But Steaua official website stated. That's why I moved Steaua. Raymond Giggs 18:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian Gold Ball[edit]

Keep it up!!! --Boguslav (talk) 19:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposition to upgrade the template "Football in Ukraine"[edit]

The template seems to be too bulky, it needs to be simplified. Also the soccer awards, which are quite plenty, and the national teams topics should have their own categories.

Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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