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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022[edit]

Hello PamD,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

NPP backlog May – October 15, 2022


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Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023[edit]

Hello PamD,

New Page Review queue December 2022

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023[edit]

Hello PamD,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023


Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).


The Blackpool article...[edit]

Welcome to the drive![edit]

Welcome, welcome, welcome PamD! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

CactiStaccingCrane (talk)15:39, 2 February 2024 UTC [refresh]via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

Women in Red May 2024[edit]

Women in Red | May 2024, Volume 10, Issue 5, Numbers 293, 294, 305, 306, 307

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  • Use open-access references wherever possible, but a paywalled reliable source
    is better than none, particularly for biographies of living people.

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--Lajmmoore (talk 06:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

Well, that was fun. Having enjoyed a splendid Wikipedia meetup in Leeds with @Jonathan Deamer, Storye book, and ColinFine: and a low-profile vandal-fighter who I won't name, I wandered into the adjacent Leeds Art Gallery wondering whether a favourite painting was on show. A staff member I talked to, who'd been talking very knowledgeably about a Victorian painting to some other visitors, didn't seem to have heard of it although it used to be on display in the entrance hall, and directed me to the ArtUK database for any information.

So there is now information about The Outward Bound (painting) in the articles on artist Frederick Cayley Robinson, violinist Wallace Hartley in whose memory it was commissioned and donated, and Cultural legacy of the Titanic (not sure if that's the optimal Titanic-related placement but it needs to be around there somewhere), because Hartley was the violinist and bandleader who went down with the ship. The painting is quite moving: first you see a young lad looking out to sea, perhaps hoping to be "Outward Bound" himself some day... then you count the funnels, or read the inscription, and realise it's not just any old liner, it's the Titanic, which puts a quite different spin on it. And unfortunately it doesn't seem to be on display at present.

It was good to meet you all, hope your later plans for the day/weekend all went well. @Lajmmoore: we were sorry you couldn't make it. The Wray Scarecrow Festival I was talking about is here, and is worth a visit: always May Day bank holiday weekend and the previous week and weekend. Happy editing! PamD 09:37, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was great to meet you all, too. And thank you, Professor PamD, for the good advice on WP stuff - it's always great to exchange ideas. Storye book (talk) 09:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was so sad to miss it too @PamD - hopefully another will be sorted when I am in Leeds! I'm so glad it went well, kudos to @Jonathan Deamer Lajmmoore (talk) 19:41, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Was great to meet you @PamD, @Storye book! Will be sure to ping you about the next one...and I'm bring a sign as well, inspired by Pam ;) Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I enjoyed the meet, and was glad to meet you all. And Come From Away was outstanding, and everything my friends had told me. Our concert in the evening, at Masham parish church also went very well. ColinFine (talk) 20:39, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hi before you revert the collage again. A discussion has been opened on the talk page for Lancaster to discuss any photo changes so feel free to discuss there. Please leave the collage as is until a agreed collage is met thanks 👍DragonofBatley (talk) 10:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 16 May 2024[edit]

Women in Red June 2024[edit]

Women in Red | June 2024, Volume 10, Issue 6, Numbers 293, 294, 308, 309, 310

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--Lajmmoore (talk 07:06, 23 May 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]