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07:34 Sunday 8 December 2019 - - - - WELCOME TO MY TALK PAGE

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Problem entering a new book[edit]

PamD, you have been really helpful showing me how to do citations for a new book my daughter just published. I made the entry as you suggested and it came out looking GREAT! Exactly like the other entries. My problem is that Ronz reverted all my edits, I'm not sure why and I did send him/her a "talk". Perhaps you can help me understand what I am doing wrong. Here is the form you suggested and which I followed.

Further reading[edit]

• Smukler, Maya Montañez, Liberating Hollywood: Women Directors and the Feminist Reform of 1970s, 2019, Rutgers University Press, 364 pgs. ISBN 978-0813587479 Chapter 4: Radicalizing the Directors Guild of America, pp. 232-277 passim

By the way, the site for Women's Steering Committee of the DSA specifically asks This article needs more links to other articles" so I don't think I'm doing anything wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsmukler (talkcontribs) 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Monica Allanach[edit]

Hi PamD. I wanted to say thank you very much for all the additions you made to the Monica Allanach article, and for supporting it being kept as an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smokingduck (talkcontribs) 22:22, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Prospective candidates[edit]

Hi PamD, I'm interested in the discussions about prospective candidates for the next general election. I started by creating a draft page for Mhairi Threlfall, an elected Councillor for Bristol City Council, as I had assumed was being a member of a "sub-national" office was notable enough. Quite fairly Dreamy_Jazz disagreed, and highlighted the issue with many old candidate pages needing to be deleted after the election (more info). I still think neutral information should be available for voters to make an informed decision, so I've been wondering, would there be a way for Wikipedia to change it's policy to allow candidates to have a page, so long as they are marked as such (maybe a tag that says they are a candidate, and identifies which election they are for), where an automated process could go though and delete all of the pages that are no longer required a few months after the election? Craig.francis (talk) 16:13, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

@Craig.francis: There's a long-established policy that just being a candidate is not grounds for notability, for any office - enshrined at WP:NPOL. Similarly, being a city councillor isn't enough either. If such a person does other things which make them notable - things which get picked up in national press etc, not just local press - then they can get an article under WP:GNG. A recent discussion was here in Jan 2019. If you search for "candidates" in the search box of Wikipedia talk:Notability (people) you will find more. Nothing will change before 12th Dec, for sure! PamD 16:30, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

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Books & Bytes – Issue 36[edit]

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Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks![edit]


Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to, so we can invite you in!

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Edits made...Sources cited[edit]

Good morning. I am requesting a review and approval. I was working from my phone (limited options) and now I am on the laptop. I am willing to make the necessary changes in order to upload a page. I had one before. Subsequently, it appeared that the updated information was not original even though it was my content. I am starting all over again. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lorijazz22 (talkcontribs) 16:58 25 November 2019 (UTC)

@Lorijazz22: Ah, I see there now some sources, but I'm not sure you meet the "notability" level. And please, as it says in the big green box on this page, give a link to any page you're discussion, and sign your posts: it makes it easier for everyone. Even on a phone, as I am as I type. Thanks. PamD 17:22, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you! Bearian (talk) 21:09, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Underwater Domain Awareness[edit]

Hi. Sorry to bug you, but I don't really run in to too many issues like this. This seems to be a case of WP:OR (see User talk:Onel5969#Request on 16:28:18, 27 November 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Devanshmrc. Not sure how to proceed, could you point me (or that editor) in the right direction? Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 19:00, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

@Onel5969: Yes I see the problem. Clearly a WP:SPA, seems to be the only begetter of this specialism, too detailed and essay-like ... Or a welcome contribution from the expert in the field? Might be worth asking at the MilHist project? I don't do AfC, and have no experience of evaluating this sort of COI / OR. I'm very uneasy that he wants it kept in mainspace for his students to access (see edit statements), something strange there as his centre presumably has its own website. PamD 06:04, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the input. I'll ask a few of the more experienced editors over at AfC and see what they have to say.Onel5969 TT me 10:50, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for creating a page for Sarah Thomas. I'm a former marathon swimmer, so I was glued to my computer screen while she labored at her quadruple crossing. It was easily one of the greatest athletic accomplishments in history. If anyone deserves a Wikipedia page, it's Sarah. Danslos (talk) 01:33, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

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