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Draft:Ultracold atomic mixtures
[edit]It looks like you were editing at the same time as I draftified the article. I don't think it is currently salveable, but if you do a TNT rewrite I have no problems. Ldm1954 (talk) 11:21, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- I was just doing some obvious linking/wikifications. I don't have the scientific expertise to do a rewrite and was just assuming that whoever did the AfC did a check of the sources to make sure this was a notable topic and not someone pushing their own research and refombing. Since there may be COI issues given the username [1], I have asked the author (who seems to be acting in good faith by using AfC) to change their username. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 11:31, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I did not pickup on the COI. Ldm1954 (talk) 11:35, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
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G6 for Morden i Sandhamn
[edit]Hi Patar knight, hope you are doing well and thank you for reviewing my G6 nom. I did initially think it should be moved to Sandhamn Murders, but after looking at WP:ENGLISHTITLE and WP:NCTHE I came to the conclusion that The Sandhamn Murders would be most appropriate based on:
- Almost all the English-language sources I can find refer to the TV series as "The Sandhamn Murders" (often with The capitalized, further implying it's a true part of the title). Here's a sample of sources: [2][3][4][5][6][7][8]
- The series is referred to as The Sandhamn Murders on almost all review database / streaming service sites - including Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic, IMdB, Apple TV+, Amazon Prime, Roku, and Tubi.
- It's also called The Sandhamn Murders in promotional or info materials like DVD jackets, YouTube trailers, and TV guides in American/British newspapers.
We don't have a separate 'the' in Swedish (or Danish), so pretty much all Scandinavian titles would not include it using a literal translation - but many do end up with one in their official English titles, like: The Åre Murders, The Bridge (2011 TV series), The Killing (Danish TV series), The Breakthrough (TV series), The Glass Dome, and The Investigation (TV series). Let me know if this makes sense, I'm happy to discuss further but I just wanted to explain my rationale to see if the outcome could be reconsidered. Either way the page should probably be moved from Morden I Sandhamn because the series has a widely accepted English title. Thanks again, Zzz plant (talk) 01:40, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, this makes sense, thank you for the explanation. I've moved the page as requested and changed the first line. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:09, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
- Great, thanks so much! Zzz plant (talk) 02:17, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
When PROD can't be used
[edit]I saw that you suggested to Johnj1995 that they use PROD instead of G4 when M Sharfuddin Anik was recreated. Just so you know, PROD cannot be used after any kind of deletion discussion has occurred. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:38, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing this out. I think I copied it over from my prior CSD decline of a nonetheless problematic article which was an A7 and changed the end part about a new AFD, but forgot to change the PROD bit. Congrats on your election as admin! I supported you and this interaction shows it was the right choice. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 06:04, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
Request Undeletion
[edit]Hi, I'm Disneey I would like to request the undeletion of this page Hudi Shehu i need more one chance article writte credibly indicate the importance or significance and find Sufficient sources and add to the page, I believe I can build this article so that it visibly meets WP:GNG and WP:BIO, Please restore the page Moved into draftspace, so that I can make edits to it. Thank you. Disneey (talk) 18:21, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
- Before I do that, please clarify if you are being paid for your contributions per our Terms of Use provisions on paid editing (WP:PAID). -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:54, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
- I also request the condition they submit through AfC even if they state they are not paid. S0091 (talk) 19:00, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
- Yes that would make sense as a condition given the poor state of the original article. If Disneey discloses paid editing links (if any) and agrees to submitting it through WP:AFC, then I will restore it as a draft. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:13, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response and for considering my request. I want to be completely transparent. Yes, I was paid to create the article about Hudi Shehu. I understand that this was a mistake and that I failed to disclose this as per Wikipedia's paid editing policy WP:PAID. I sincerely apologize for this oversight. I am now fully aware of the policy and am committed to following all of Wikipedia's rules. I am confident that I can rewrite the article to meet the general notability guidelines WP:GNG and biographies of living persons WP:BIO by using reliable, independent sources. I would be grateful if you could restore the page to draftspace. I agree to submit the revised article through Articles for Creation WP:AFC as you suggested. Disneey (talk) 19:24, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
- I have restored it to Draft:Hudi Shehu. Please make the appropriate disclosures per WP:PAID (e.g. on your userpage, on a draft talk page) and submit it for AFC review once it has been improved. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:10, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you Disneey (talk) 03:10, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
- I am writing to you regarding the WP:PAID tag on the Draft:Hudi Shehu. I have reviewed Wikipedia's policies and now fully understand and adhere to them. As per Wikipedia's Terms of Use, I have disclosed all my financial connections. I have also made edits to the article to ensure it aligns with Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy. I would like to request the removal of this tag. Could you please let me know if I am allowed to remove it myself, or if this is something your team handles? I would appreciate your guidance on this matter. Disneey (talk) 03:27, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
- Someone else has already actioned this. Good luck with the draft. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:06, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
- I am writing to you regarding the WP:PAID tag on the Draft:Hudi Shehu. I have reviewed Wikipedia's policies and now fully understand and adhere to them. As per Wikipedia's Terms of Use, I have disclosed all my financial connections. I have also made edits to the article to ensure it aligns with Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy. I would like to request the removal of this tag. Could you please let me know if I am allowed to remove it myself, or if this is something your team handles? I would appreciate your guidance on this matter. Disneey (talk) 03:27, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you Disneey (talk) 03:10, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
- I have restored it to Draft:Hudi Shehu. Please make the appropriate disclosures per WP:PAID (e.g. on your userpage, on a draft talk page) and submit it for AFC review once it has been improved. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:10, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response and for considering my request. I want to be completely transparent. Yes, I was paid to create the article about Hudi Shehu. I understand that this was a mistake and that I failed to disclose this as per Wikipedia's paid editing policy WP:PAID. I sincerely apologize for this oversight. I am now fully aware of the policy and am committed to following all of Wikipedia's rules. I am confident that I can rewrite the article to meet the general notability guidelines WP:GNG and biographies of living persons WP:BIO by using reliable, independent sources. I would be grateful if you could restore the page to draftspace. I agree to submit the revised article through Articles for Creation WP:AFC as you suggested. Disneey (talk) 19:24, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
- Yes that would make sense as a condition given the poor state of the original article. If Disneey discloses paid editing links (if any) and agrees to submitting it through WP:AFC, then I will restore it as a draft. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:13, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
- I also request the condition they submit through AfC even if they state they are not paid. S0091 (talk) 19:00, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2025
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2025).
- Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, G15, has been enacted. It applies to pages generated by a large language model (LLM) without human review.
- Following a request for comment, there is a new policy outlining the granting of permissions to view the IP addresses of temporary accounts. Temporary account deployment on the English Wikipedia is currently scheduled for September 2025, and editors can request access to the permission ahead of time. Admins are encouraged to keep an eye on the request page; there will likely be a flood of editors requesting the permission when they realize they can no longer see IP addresses.
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Not really…
[edit]Hello Patar, what song do you think charted in 2025, RE BRGHT. FYI, the article currently says the guy was formerly called Skopy Lonky (a guy who started career just in 2020), but guess who Skopy Lonky is a guy who isn’t Kourage! here, here, here. Skopy Lonky is Gbolahan and not Kourage as the article claims, this Kourage guy have had several titles salted because of his spam. I am only seeing more reasons for deletion, again, I can’t see a charting single directly from that article, but even if there is, it is likely hoax is you look closely, it’s Kourage’s tactics. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 00:38, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
- The sped up version of Asiwaju by Ruger as stated in the article. The Zimbabwe iTunes charting in 2025 appears to be something based on Kworb data [9] putting it at 21 on May 9, 2025. It's not a reliable source and not a proper chart for notability purposes, but it does aggregate real-time data. That's enough to survive WP:G4 since the previous AFD was in 2024. Don't know about the Skopy Lonky stuff and that should probably be removed if it's not a documented alias. The guy is a real musician with a verified Spotify page [10] so I don't see how this is a hoax. Yes the article probably puffs him up a bit, but not irredeemably so to qualify for WP:G11. The AFD is probably going to delete the page in a few days anyway. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:15, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
- Also, a source in the article addresses the name change apparently [11]. The article also notes that he's released two albums in 2025 which can be spotted on Spotify [12][13]. Again not enough for notability without sources, but something not covered in the previous AFD. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:23, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
- My overall point is that there’s no reason for me to put my reliance on an unreliable source, no matter what information it present; not at least for a promotional/spammy case as Kourage’s. It also appears the article was tagged again (this time, along with the hoax tag) and it was reviewed and deleted by another admin. Happy editing, Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:50, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
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Your photos of people
[edit]Hey, I've been meaning to drop you a comment for a while now, thanking you for taking such great photos of people. I'm curious why you are so proficient in portraying subjects in the best possible light while other photographers aren't able to take the same or similar shots. This got me thinking that Wikipedia could benefit from an essay from someone like you explaining why it's important to take and use the best photos of subjects and perhaps even telling people how to do it. There isn't a day that goes by where I come across a BLP, often quite randomly, with the worst possible photo of the subject gracing the page. It's good to know that there's someone out there like you who is acting like a counterforce to those who would add bad photos. Thanks for your work! Viriditas (talk) 22:20, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the kind words. For my own photos I usually had the benefit of being able to speaking to the subjects to very briefly explain my role as a Wikipedia editor and its copyright rules while asking for permission to photograph them. These usually occurred in well-lit rooms and since I had permission, I could reposition and better frame the photos, so they're better composed than random shots of people in public. So far I've only had one person request not to be photographed and I honoured that request. Not sure if that's worthy of being put in an essay. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:25, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining! Viriditas (talk) 23:42, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you again, but I just visited Jessica Chastain, a FA, and couldn't help notice that the lead image is taken from below, making her look less attractive and giving her face distorted angles. Why would a FA choose to use a less flattering image like this? Viriditas (talk) 22:26, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- It's probably just more recent than what was there before. As for the angle, it looks likes its taken while she was on a festival stage panel of some sort, so the photographer is typically in the crowd and below the subject, so there's no helping it. There's currently a discussion on the talk page, albeit from 2023 which hasn't been archived, about using a 2022 photo instead that maybe you could start up again. There's multiple options from Commons [14]. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:41, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you again, but I just visited Jessica Chastain, a FA, and couldn't help notice that the lead image is taken from below, making her look less attractive and giving her face distorted angles. Why would a FA choose to use a less flattering image like this? Viriditas (talk) 22:26, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining! Viriditas (talk) 23:42, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello! Saw your note here -- I wasn't sure whether CSD was the right move or not, but I'm hoping you can point me in the right direction. The reason I tagged it for CSD is because if you head to my talk page, the talkheader template has links to archives of my talk page, including an "Index" link. That index link is automatically put there because of the existence of the page I tagged for speedy deletion (the page I tagged for speedy deletion is an old, defunct index of my talk page archives). Should I ask the bot operators, or is there a different method? Thank you :) --tony 18:41, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- I would reach out to the bot operators. I get it's probably harmless, but I don't know if deleting a page that a bot expects to be there might break its workflow or something, so I didn't IAR and do a G7/U1 delete outside of one's own userspace. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:53, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- That makes sense -- thank you :) tony 02:46, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
Hey @Patar knight! I was wondering why you declined my CSD for the above page? Wikipedia:G14's first criterion says that a page is eligible if it ends with (disambiguation) and has only one non-primary page listed (primary topic is that page title without (disambiguation), also bolded in the dab page). See also the 14th hatnote in the criterion page.
I believe that this page qualifies for it right? Am I missing something? Thanks! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 03:38, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- That is not what the criterion says. The 14th hatnote explicitly clarifies that the primary bolded topic at the top counts as a page. This G14 criterion is meant for cases where only one topic, presumptively the primary topic, is on the DAB page, making it unnecessary. For WP:ONEOTHER cases, the proper venue is WP:PROD or WP:AFD to provide a period where other editors can see if other possible entries exist. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:05, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oh right, thanks for pointing that. The desc in Page triage extension made it slightly less obvious and led me to nominate it. Apologies and thanks! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 05:09, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2025
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Could you explain why you declined G14 here? There's a redirect to Patterns of Force after the page move, and a redirect to Michael Reaves. I don't believe that the latter redirect counts as an extant page for this. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 21:42, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- As long as MOS:DABMENTION is met and the target page isn't deleted, then it counts as an extant page. WP:G14 is meant to be an uncontroversial and objective way to enforce disambiguation guidelines, which allow for entries that are not their own pages. The proper method for WP:ONEOTHER entries is to tag them as such (Template:One other topic) and then either use WP:PROD or WP:AFD as appropriate so editors have a chance to review if other entries exist. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:28, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
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The Bugle: Issue 233, September 2025
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Talk page?
[edit]Agreement & consensus are not reached in lengthy edit summaries, as I'm sure you actually know. Would have been good to discuss that on that article's talk page for more input. SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:36, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- It's not a substitute for substantive discussions, but here your revert was seemingly based on the misunderstanding that Wikidata entries are visible to readers, so I pointed that out and invited you to make whatever changes you thought would be improvement to the SD. If you hadn't messaged me here and started a talk page discussion, I would have left your revision alone for the reasons stated in my talk page reply and overall that would have been more efficient. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:23, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – October 2025
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2025).

- After a motion, arbitration enforcement page protections no longer need to be logged in the AELOG. A bot now automatically posts protections at WP:AELOG/P. To facilitate this bot, protection summaries must include a link to the relevant CT page (e.g.
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The Signpost: 20 October 2025
[edit]- News and notes: Board shuffles, LLM blocks increase, IPs are going away
And the "Global Resource Distribution Committee" emerges.
- Special report: The election that isn't
Two shortlisted WMF Board candidates removed from the ballot.
- Interview: The BoT bump
Who was bumped and why?
- In the media: An incident at WikiConference North America; WMF reports AI-related traffic drop and explains Wikipedia to US conservatives
...while Musk prepares to launch "Grokipedia".
- Traffic report: One click after another
Serial-killer miniseries, deceased scientist, government shutdowns and Sandalwood hit "Kantara" crowd the tubes.
- Humour: Wikipedia pay rates
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The Bugle: Issue 234, October 2025
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Guide to temporary accounts
[edit]Hello, Patar knight. This message is being sent to remind you of significant upcoming changes regarding logged-out editing.
Starting 4 November, logged-out editors will no longer have their IP address publicly displayed. Instead, they will have a temporary account (TA) associated with their edits. Users with some extended rights like administrators and CheckUsers, as well as users with the temporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will still be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range.
How do temporary accounts work?
- When a logged-out user completes an edit or a logged action for the first time, a cookie will be set in this user's browser and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created for them. This account's name will follow the pattern:
~2025-12345-67(a tilde, year of creation, a number split into units of 5). - All subsequent actions by the temporary account user will be attributed to this username. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser.
- A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. Users with the temporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will be able to see the underlying IP addresses.
- As a measure against vandalism, there are two limitations on the creation of temporary accounts:
- There has to be a minimum of 10 minutes between subsequent temporary account creations from the same IP (or /64 range in case of IPv6).
- There can be a maximum of 6 temporary accounts created from an IP (or /64 range) within a period of 24 hours.
Temporary account IP viewer user right
- Administrators may grant the temporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right to non-administrators who meet the criteria for granting. Importantly, an editor must make an explicit request for the permission (e.g. at WP:PERM/TAIV)—administrators are not permitted to assign the right without a request.
- Administrators will automatically be able to see temporary account IP information once they have accepted the Access to Temporary Account IP Addresses Policy via Special:Preferences or via the onboarding dialog which comes up after temporary accounts are deployed.
Impact for administrators
- It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the autoblock option.
- It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
- Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this (see a video about IPContributions in a gallery below).
Rules about IP information disclosure
- Publicizing an IP address gained through TAIV access is generally not allowed (e.g. ~2025-12345-67 previously edited as 192.0.2.1 or ~2025-12345-67's IP address is 192.0.2.1).
- Publicly linking a TA to another TA is allowed if "reasonably believed to be necessary". (e.g.
~2025-12345-67 and ~2025-12345-68 are likely the same person, so I am counting their reverts together toward 3RR
, but not Hey ~2025-12345-68, you did some good editing as ~2025-12345-67) - See Wikipedia:Temporary account IP viewer § What can and can't be said for more detailed guidelines.
Useful tools for patrollers
- It is possible to view if a user has opted-in to view temporary account IPs via the User Info card, available in Preferences → Appearance → Advanced options →
Enable the user info card
- This feature also makes it possible for anyone to see the approximate count of temporary accounts active on the same IP address range.
- Special:IPContributions allows viewing all edits and temporary accounts connected to a specific IP address or IP range.
- Similarly, Special:GlobalContributions supports global search for a given temporary account's activity.
- The auto-reveal feature (see video below) allows users with the right permissions to automatically reveal all IP addresses for a limited time window.
Videos
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How to use Special:IPContributions
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How automatic IP reveal works
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How to use IP Info
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How to use User Info
Further information and discussion
- For more information and discussion regarding this change, please see the announcement from the Wikimedia Foundation at Wikipedia:Village pump (WMF) § Temporary accounts rollout.
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November article improvement drive
[edit]Starting on 1 November, the month-long 2025 Article Improvement Drive will target a number of content improvement areas and backlogs. Participating editors will be in line for barnstars and other awards; articles from all aspects of the project will be eligible so there will be something for everybody. Interested editors are encouraged to sign up now! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:18, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2025
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2025).

- The speedy deletion criteria U5 has been repealed, with U6 and U7 replacing it. See the FAQ for more clarifications.
- Community-designated contentious topics may now be enforced and appealed at the arbitration enforcement noticeboard (AE) as a result of an RfC.
- You can enable a handy user info card next to usernames, which when clicked displays edit count, blocks, thanks, and other information. To enable this feature, visit Preferences → Appearance → Advanced options →
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- The arbitration case Transgender healthcare and people has been closed
- Uninvolved administrators may impose an AE participation restriction on any thread at the Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard.
- An unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in November 2025 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!
The Signpost: 10 November 2025
[edit]- News and notes: Temporary accounts go live and WMF board member self-suspends
ArbCom elections draw close, and Wikimania '27 in Santiago.
- Community view: Six Wikipedians' thoughts on Grokipedia, and the humanity of it all
It ain't a five course meal, according to one of our interviewees.
- Wikicup report: BeanieFan11, WikiCup victor of 2025, covers the results
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
- In the media: Jimbo's book, an argument about genocide, and a train of shame
Wikipedia's new rival, political controversy in Italy and other Wiki-reports.
- Recent research: Taking stock of the 2024–2025 research grants
$400,000 USD in total funding: what did we get?
- Opinion: With Grokipedia, top-down control of knowledge is new again
Does it shed any light on particular topics that are better suited to LLM-generation than others?
- Obituary: Struway
Rest in peace.
- Traffic report: The documentaried, the disowned, the deceased, Diwali and the Dodgers
You know your man is working hard, he's worth a deuce.
- Comix: Head of steam
'Sblood!
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