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with cum laude[edit]

Thanks for updating the phrasing at Poerbatjaraka. Since you seem familiar with this phrase, do you know how to properly correct this upcoming DYK entry? Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Poerbatjaraka. HaEr48 (talk) 07:59, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

It appears I beat you there by a merely minute :) --Paul_012 (talk) 08:04, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

A page you started (Phloen Chit Road) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Phloen Chit Road, Paul 012!

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Boleyn (talk) 10:35, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

A page you started (Talat Noi) has been reviewed![edit]

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Boleyn (talk) 10:36, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

A page you started (S.A.B. Intersection) has been reviewed![edit]

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Boleyn (talk) 10:39, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

A page you started (Murder of Nualchawee Petchrung) has been reviewed![edit]

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A page you started (Carlo Allegri) has been reviewed![edit]

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Boleyn (talk) 10:41, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the patrols, Boleyn, but personally I think it's a bit of overkill to tag one-paragraph stubs for lacking inline citations and having one source. Moving the citations to the end of the single paragraph would be trivial, but seems pretty pointless since it really makes no difference to the reader. Regarding the number of sources, I don't know what others think, but to me the stub tag already conveys the need for expansion, which in itself implies additional sources. It'd seem pretty pointless to have half a dozen references tagged to the end of a single-paragraph stub. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:12, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Also, please remember that maintenance tags should be placed after disambiguation hatnotes, thanks. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:20, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted[edit]

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Hi Paul 012, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Schwede66 03:10, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Embassy of the United Kingdom, Bangkok[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Embassy of the United Kingdom, Bangkok at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SounderBruce 19:44, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

BOTREQ[edit]

Hello! Just a quick note to say that the Thailand bot you requested at WP:BOTREQ is being tested - see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/TheMagikBOT 4 for the approval process. If you have any questions just ping me, or leave a comment on the approval request page. Thanks! TheMagikCow (T) (C) 12:34, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Sala Daeng moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Sala Daeng, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please follow the prompts on the Articles for Creation template atop the page. — InsertCleverPhraseHere 09:18, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice, Insertcleverphrasehere, but I must question the policy support behind such unilateral incubations. WP:DRAFTIFY only states that "Articles are incubated as a result of i) a deletion discussion, ii) an undeletion request, or iii) userfication". I'd appreciate if you submotted a formal AfD for the article instead, and have reverted the (out-of-process?) draftification for now. --Paul_012 (talk) 22:50, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
WP:DRAFTIFY isn't a policy, and there isn't a policy specifically outlining when draftification can and cannot be performed. Personally I use draftificaton for articles that are clearly not ready for article space, either because of very bad quality issues or because it is very undersourced (the case here). AfD is not right for this article, because this topic is notible enough for an article, the current version is just unfinished in terms of sourcing. Additional reliable sources are the solution, not deletion, however, I do not speak the language and cannot search them myself. Feel free to move the article back to the article space yourself after adding additional refs, or contaCT me and I can do it for you. — InsertCleverPhraseHere 07:13, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Embassy of the United Kingdom, Bangkok[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 17 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Embassy of the United Kingdom, Bangkok, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the British Government is selling off its embassy in Bangkok in what will be Thailand's priciest real estate deal ever? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Embassy of the United Kingdom, Bangkok. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Embassy of the United Kingdom, Bangkok), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

IronGargoyle (talk) 12:02, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Nice work at Embassy of the United Kingdom, Bangkok! These topics are underrepresented at DYK, so thank you for your work on it. Cheers, MX () 14:09, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Bad Genius[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 19 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bad Genius, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Thai heist thriller film Bad Genius is centred on what its director calls "the most boring activity on earth"—taking exams? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bad Genius. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Bad Genius), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex ShihTalk 12:02, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

your edit[edit]

i understanding because you are not native speaker, and reliable sources is most important for non native speaker.--123.194.194.64 (talk) 15:45, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Wat Phra Kaew[edit]

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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Wat Phra Kaew by Ninara TSP edit crop.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:15, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Kopoon Warrior F.C. ไม่ใช่สโมสรสมัครเล่น แต่เป็นสโมสรอาชีพ[edit]

ผมว่า คุณต้องตีความ WP:Notability ใหม่นะครับ โคปูน วอริเออร์ นี้เล่นในลีกอาชีพ T4 ของไทยนะครับ แต่คุณ Vanjagenije ก็ดันมาลบอีก ผมว่าแบบนี้ก็แทบไม่ต้องรายงานทุกลีกในประเทศไทยพอดี สื่อก็ให้ความสนใจและรายงานนะครับ เช่น https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Au5AJ7V_Ys, http://www.smmsport.com/news.php?tags=%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%B9%E0%B8%99%20%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A3%E0%B9%8C เป็นต้น ท่านต้องถามก่อนลบ ว่าอันไหนทีมอาชีพ อันไหนทีมสมัครเล่น ลบหมดมันเกินไปครับ Aquaelfin (talk) 02:57, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

ผมไม่ได้พูดถึงสโมสรโคปูนน่ะครับ บทความที่โดนลบแบบ speedy deletion (A7) คือเพราะไม่ได้อธิบายอย่างเพียงพอที่จะให้ผู้อ่านเข้าใจในเบื้องต้นว่าองค์กรนั้นมีความสำคัญอย่างไร เท่าที่ดู บทความตอนนี้มีลิงก์อ้างอิงไปยังรายงานข่าว ซึ่งน่าจะเพียงพอที่จะไม่โดนลบแล้วครับ --Paul_012 (talk) 04:41, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Bangsai F.C. และ Khong Chee Mool F.C. มีข่าวในสำนักข่าวในไทยมาทำข่าวนะครับ[edit]

ไม่น่าจะเข้า WP:Notability เพราะ มี link สำนักข่าวไทย อาจไม่ใช่รายใหญ่มาก แต่สำนักข่าวท้องถิ่นตีเผยแพร่ในอินเตอร์เน็ตนะครับ Aquaelfin (talk) 09:10, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

ปกติข่าวที่จะนับว่าเป็นหลักฐานยืนยันความโดดเด่นพอให้มีบทความ จะต้องเป็นข่าวเชิงลึก (เช่น ประวัติสโมสร เจ้าของ การก่อตั้ง ฯลฯ) ไม่ใช่แค่รายงานการแข่งขันหรือข่าวสังคมน่ะครับ ถ้าเป็นแค่สำนักข่าวท้องถิ่นอาจจะไม่เพียงพอ ทางที่ดีควรจะมีมากกว่าหนึ่งแหล่งครับ เท่าที่หาดูคร่าว ๆ ผมไม่เจอรายงานข่าวที่จะเข้าข่ายสำหรับสองสโมสรนี้ (เทียบกับอย่างสโมสรธำรงไทย ซึ่งอันนั้นมีความโดดเด่นชัดเจนครับ) --Paul_012 (talk) 10:29, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
ผมว่าท่านก็เกินไป และต้องตี WP:Notability ให้มันใกล้เคียงกับความเป็นจริง สโมสรธำรงไทย นั่นมันอดีตสโมสรใหญ่นะครับ ข่าวมันย่อมมีมาก มันเรื่องธรรมดา แต่กับสโมสรเล็กๆ แค่มีข่าวออกมาที่ไม่ใช่ผลการแข่งขัน ผมถือว่าดังพอที่ลงเป็นบทความแล้วครับ ถ้าตีความแบบท่าน ตามที่เคยบอก ไม่ต้องเขียนอะไรพอดีเกือบทั้งลีก ไม่ใช่แค่ลีกสมัครเล่นด้วย WP:Notability ของท่านมันสูงและไม่ตรงกับความเป็นจริง Aquaelfin (talk) 3:04, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
ครับ นโยบายของวิกิพีเดียภาษาอังกฤษคือไม่ได้เป็นที่ที่จะต้องรวบรวมข้อมูลทุกสิ่งทุกอย่าง อย่างฟุตบอลก็ไม่ได้ถือว่าจะต้องมีบทความครบทุกลีกทุกสโมสรของทุกประเทศ ก็เลยกำหนดเกณฑ์ไว้ดังกล่าวน่ะครับ --Paul_012 (talk) 03:59, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

เกิดอะไรขึ้นกับ Phetchabun F.C. ครับ[edit]

มีอะไรหรือครับ คุณพอล เห็นแท็กมาหาผม Aquaelfin (talk) 11:17, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

ไม่มีอะไรครับ พอดีมีความผิดพลาดตั้งแต่เดือน ก.ค. ทำให้ประวัติการแก้บทความมันปนกับพิษณุโลกสองแคว ซึ่งตอนนี้แก้ไขเรียบร้อยแล้วครับ ส่วนที่แท็กไปนั้นคือเรื่องที่คุณ Ministerboy บอกว่าชื่อ Thai League 5 นั้นไม่ถูกต้อง แต่ต้องเป็น Thailand Amateur League ครับ --Paul_012 (talk) 11:23, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
คุณได้ย้ายเพจผมไปที่ 2017 Thai League Amateur Tournament... region ไม่ใช่หรือครับ Aquaelfin (talk) 11:30, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
ครับ พอดีคุณ Ministerboy เขาพูดถึงขึ้นมา ผมเลยบอกไปว่าคุณ Aquaelfin เป็นผู้เขียน แล้วแท็กชื่อเพื่อแจ้งให้ทราบน่ะครับ --Paul_012 (talk) 11:33, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
เขาให้เขียนภาษาไทยในนี่ได้หรือ 555 --Farang Rak Tham (talk) 21:19, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Although it's generally recommended to use English for most talk page discussions, a degree of leeway is usually given on user talk pages, especially if doing so would help rather than harm communication. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:44, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

───────────────────────── งั้นตามสบายเลยครับ 555 --Farang Rak Tham (talk) 22:39, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Review of Wat Paknam Bhasicharoen[edit]

Noticed your edits at Wat Arun. Would you be interested to evaluate the article about Wat Paknam Bhasicharoen? I would appreciate it. You can write your comments on the talk page. I'd also appreciate a reassessment.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 13:02, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm not quite up to going through the entire article just yet, but hopefully I'll get to it some time soon. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:35, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Okay. Please note that this is a different article from Wat Phra Dhammakaya. I wrote Wat Paknam Bhasicharoen a couple of months later, and I am much more satisfied with the quality of the content. Nevertheless, an outsider's perspective is what keeps Wikipedia content alive.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 22:39, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

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About khluen Chiwit[edit]

Thank you for editing the page. Since I'm not really a Thai speaker, i hope you help me improve the page. By the way, can you help me how to input this image : ไฟล์:โปสเตอร์คลื่นชีวิต.jpg as the page poster? I don't know how to do it.

Yujoong

I've uploaded the image at File:Khluen Chiwit banner.jpg and added it in the infobox. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:00, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much!!! :) --Yujoong —Preceding undated comment added 04:57, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Need Thai name Translate[edit]

Hello Paul, Thank you for editing my create page. I'm from Myanmar, I happy to create Thai actor article <3 , but I'm not read "thai name". please help me to translate Thai language name from this article Warapat Petchsatit. I'm not translate "Film Characters name" and help to upload movie poster for Secret Seven (TV series). please help!! :D.

Cheer 楊過007 (talk) 10:12, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Done. I've also renamed the article to follow the spelling he uses on his Instagram profile. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:26, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank Paul- perfect :D, need to translate series name for this article Korapat Kirdpan.

Best regatds 楊過007 (talk) 10:28, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Thai royal funeral[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 26 October 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thai royal funeral, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the cremation pyres (example pictured) built for Thai royal funerals symbolize Mount Meru, the Hindu centre of the universe? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thai royal funeral. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Thai royal funeral), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Asian challenge[edit]

Thankyou for your work on Thailand topics, you might be interested in putting your articles up on Wikipedia:WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:39, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Draft:DreamsCloud[edit]

Hi. I noticed you took the time to review and reinstate Vidooly to the mainspace, which I really appreciate. Would you be able to take the time to do the same for Draft:DreamsCloud? Davykamanzitalkcontribsalter ego 13:21, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply; someone had already moved the page when I saw the message. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:22, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

สวัสดีครับ Paul 012[edit]

สวัสดีครับผมชื่อ Tvcccp จากวิกิพีเดียภาษาไทยครับ คือว่ามีเรื่องจะสอบถามเกี่ยวกับวิกิมีเดียคอมมอนส์ครับ เห็นท่านใช้ภาษาไทยได้และใช้วิกิมีเดียคอมมอนส์บ่อย ๆ จึงถามครับ:

  1. รบกวนช่วยตรวจสอบภาพ Royal crematorium of Bhumibol Adulyadej -CentralPlaza Rama 2 Bangkok 26.10.2017 ตั้งแต่ภาพที่ 1 ถึง 42 ที่ผมอัปโหลดให้หน่อยครับ คือไม่แน่ใจน่ะครับ
  2. มีวิธีเปลี่ยนชื่อภาพในคอมมอนส์หรือเปล่าครับ (คือผมน่าจะตั้งผิดครับ)

ช่วยตอบที่หน้าพูดคุยของผมในวิกิมีเดียคอมมอนส์นะครับ ขอบคุณและยินดีที่ได้รู้จักครับ--Tvcccp (talk) 12:52, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Vidooly[edit]

Hi, thanks for taking the time to peer-review and re-submit the Vidooly article back into the mainspace. Another reviewer has come in and nominated it for deletion, so I just wanted to have your honest input on its subject's notability because the article keeps getting deleted and un-deleted and it's getting frustrating. Davykamanzitalkcontribsalter ego 19:01, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

I just noticed that I messaged you before; sorry for the repetitive "thanks". Davykamanzitalkcontribsalter ego 19:04, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

De-Prodings[edit]

I noticed you removed my prods on a set of music albums. With the edit summary: (De-PRODed - Have to question the judgment involved in PRODing the most prominent band of one of the most influential genres in 20th century Thai society). [1] [2] [3] [4]. No worries, but I would appreciate it if you added some sources as the articles are all unreferenced. Generally speaking albums do not inherit notability from the band that made it, so if no-one adds any sources it may be sent to AfD by me or someone else later on. Dysklyver

I de-PRODed the articles because I wasn't sure if you were aware of the significance of the band itself, which was PRODed along with the albums. Feel free to take them to AfD. I don't actually think that all the albums warrant a standalone article, just that they warranted further discussion. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:30, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
I will say that the band itself did not seem significant to me. I won't be taking the articles to AfD (at least not for 5 months or so), but thought I would point out that they don't look significant for someone who doesn’t know about the band. Dysklyver 11:47, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Dear Paul[edit]

Can you help me to remove title "Head" in infobox of page Football Association of Thailand. I try every way but can't erase it. Ministerboy (talk) 02:23, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

It appears to be an error caused by Template:Infobox Football association; I've reverted the change to the template. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:12, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year 2018!![edit]

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Happy New year 2018, sir!!--บุญพฤทธิ์ ทวนทัย (talk) 13:05, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Precious[edit]

Thai topics

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Thank you for quality articles on Thai topics, such as King's Scholarship (Thailand), Embassy of the United Kingdom, Bangkok and Thai royal funeral, for serving project Thailand from 2008, for diligent reviewing, - Paul, repeating (14 March 2010): you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:27, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

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Manila climate[edit]

Hi Paul. Thanks for making this edit. You obviously care about the factual accuracy of the weather box in the Manila article. But neither reference has these numbers. So how would we know these values are "unadulterated"? May be better to restore my edit? -- P 1 9 9   23:10, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

I checked again, and the numbers appear to agree with the listed source ("Port Area Manlia" on page 14 in the PAGASA doc[5]). Are we looking at the same reference? --Paul_012 (talk) 07:54, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
OK, I see it now. I looked at page 13 - Manila Int. Airport. Thanks again. -- P 1 9 9   14:20, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Fortifications of Bangkok[edit]

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Merger discussion dealing with Burma/Myanmar Railways[edit]

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Thai municipal government[edit]

Hey, I wanted to continue the discussion on Thai municipal governance without further clogging up the article page. Local government in different countries is an interest of mine. To reiterate, I get that municipal government is a different dimension than administrative division and are for most purposes are independent of the administrative divisions; this is true of most countries. I just wanted to clarify which level the different municipalities correspond to on the administrative level. For instance, using town-municipality (thesban mueang) Chonbuir as an example, we'd say that Chonburi is in Mueang Chonburi District which is in Chonburi Provice, correct? Essentially, this would mean that the corresponding administrative level would be that of sub-district/township, that is to say that it's a high enough a level that it's not in a township as well. I'm guessing this means that both city and town municipalities (with the two special cases excepting) are at the sub-district level, that is that once a defined territory is granted "city" or "town" status it cease to belong part of the subdistrict/township it was carved out of, correct?

Now, getting down to subdistrict/township municipalities (thetsaban tambon) is where I get confused. Are they still said to "belong to" or "be in" the subdistrict(s)/township(s) in which they are carved out of? For instance, is Bueng Kan township municipality "in" Bueng Kan Township (and it appears part of Wisit Township) or carved out of and independent of it like the city and town municipalities are? It may very well be that all municipalities are on the same level like you originally said.

Finally, not municipal governments, but on the administrative divisions, it appears that anything not in a municipality is in subdistrict (tambon), which are then further subdivided into villages (muban), correct? It appears villages don't have a corresponding municipal level, that they are lower than anything else.

BTW, I left a similar question of clarification on the pages for Myanmar. You wouldn't happen to know about their municipal governments, would you? --Criticalthinker (talk) 23:39, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

A municipality (whichever kind) isn't actually carved out of the subdistrict(s) in which they're located. The subdistricts, as well as the villages, continue to exist (at least on the map), although many of their responsibilities will be taken over by the municipality. In the case of city and town municipalities, the posts of subdistrict headman (kamnan) and village headman (phuyai ban) of the subdistricts and villages that are entirely within the municipality limits are abolished. This leaves the subdistricts and villages only as boundaries by which addresses are assigned and population statistics recorded.
In the case of thesaban tambon, those posts may continue to exist side-by-side with the municipality. This wasn't by design; the situation emerged because the entrenched kamnan and phuyai ban protested and forced the scaling down of the 2000s' decentralising reforms.
So, to answer your questions,
we'd say that Chonburi [Municipality] is in Mueang Chonburi District which is in Chonburi Provice, correct?
Correct for Chonburi, but not always. Map Ta Phut Town Municipality, for example, spans the area of two districts. Saying that it's in a subdistrict/district is just a geographical description.
it's a high enough a level that it's not in a township [subdistrict] as well.
Yes, but there are also municipalities which are smaller than the subdistrict (not exactly sure if this is true for those at the town or city level), so it would also be correct to say that those are within the subdistrict, geographically.
once a defined territory is granted "city" or "town" status it cease to belong part of the subdistrict/township it was carved out of, correct?
As explained above, municipalities aren't carved out of the subdistricts, although in the case of towns and cities, the subdistricts' governmental functions are taken over by the municipalities.
is Bueng Kan township municipality "in" Bueng Kan Township (and it appears part of Wisit Township) or carved out of and independent of it like the city and town municipalities are?
In this case, the most correct would be to say that the area of Bueng Kan Township Municipality overlaps with the area of Bueng Kan Subdistrict. I'd say they're independent of each other.
it appears that anything not in a municipality is in subdistrict (tambon), which are then further subdivided into villages (muban), correct?
Actually, every location is always in a subdistrict (as mentioned above). But the areas outside of a municipality would be part of a Subdistrict Administration Organisation (SAO), which confusingly is another local government type that doesn't always correspond to the subdistrict. You were probably thinking of these when you mentioned carving out.
The subdistricts (not SAOs) are subdivied into villages, that is correct.
It appears villages don't have a corresponding municipal level, that they are lower than anything else.
Municipalities may also be subdivided into khwaeng (confusingly the same term that Bangkok uses for its subdistricts, though they're different things), and further into chumchon (communities). This varies by municipality, though, so I'm not sure how comparable they are. Some municipalities have chumchon that correspond 1:1 to the mu ban, while others don't.
All this can be extremely confusing, and is mostly the result of not-wholly-successful implementation of the decentralisation policies called for by the 1997 constitution. The article is woefully inadequate, but a lot has been written of the issue outside of Wikipedia. I see quite a few journal articles, which are paywalled, but there's this chapter from Public Sector Reform in Developing and Transitional Countries which has a preview on Google Books. If you're interested in details of Thai local governments and bodies, User:Ahoerstemeier has covered a huge amount in his blog at http://tambon.blogspot.com . Oh, and I don't know anything about Myanmar, unfortunately. --Paul_012 (talk) 03:19, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for all of this! Okay, so municipal governance is another layer of local governance; it's an overlay over the subdistrict administration organisations. I've actually seen this before in other places, and in fact is very similar to a type of municipality in my homestate of Michigan. In Michigan, an incorporated village (a municipal government) actually isn't a carve-out of its surrounding township, but exists within it. In fact, a resident of a village pays both village and township taxes. So, I am familiar with this concept. The difference with my state, it seems, is that when a city incorporated territory, that part of the township ceases to exist. In fact, the closest comparison in my neck of the woods would be to Indiana where municipalities overlay townships. I guess the difference is that in incorporated cities in Indiana, the township government actually still exists under the city government. So even in a place like Indianapolis, which covers multiple townships you pay taxes to both the township government and the city government; you are represented on the township level by trustees, and on the city level by city councillers.
Yes, the SAO's not always corresponding to subdistrict boundaries is a bit confusing, and that's for correcting that for me. Though, it's not a totally foreign idea. Using my state, again, as an example, in Michigan you have survey townships and then township government (civil townships). Survey townships existed before anything else, as they were layed out before many areas were settled and before they gained township government organization. So, some civil townships consists of entire survey townships (sometimes multiple), and sometimes only consists of parts of survey townships. However, every location in the state is under a township, village or city government. If a civil township only covers part of an old survey township, than the remaining part is also under a civil township or city government.
So I guess my last question is whether Thailand's terrtitory, like Michigan's, is covered either by a city, town, township municipality or SAO municipality? And then, also, in the case that the territory of the country is covered entirely by municipal and local government does that mean that in a rural area that an SAO could actually cover only parts of administrative village boundaries, since SAO's don't always correspond to whole subdistricts? Now THAT could get really confusing. lol So, you could live under the jurisdiction of an SAO local government, a subdistrict council, and a village headman (and maybe advisory village council)?! And then just to further get what you said, in city and town municipalities, SAO's wouldn't exist, but subdistricts still exist on paper, but that their function is essentially abolished, right? So city municipalities, town municipalities, and township municipalities and SAOs exists as a seperate local and/or municipal governance layer, and then you have town and villages existing part of the greater administrative division regime of the country. The municial and local government territories can overlay parts of subdistricts and parts of villages, but can also include multiple and multiple parts of townships and and villages. --Criticalthinker (talk) 05:02, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Paul already answered so well, I have almost nothing to add. The SAO were created by upgrading the Subdistrict Councils, which were set up to cover the non-municipal areas of each subdistrict in the early 1970s. Only by the upgrade to SAOs in the 1990s they became real local governments however, before they were just councils with ex-officio members with very limited authority. Any area of the kingdom is either in a municipality or a SAO, or a special administrative area (BKK and Pattaya) - so SAOs are nothing but a 4th type of municipality with lower power than the Thesaban Tambon. Actually, there are plans to upgrade all SAO to Thesaban Tambon, but not sure about the current status of that proposal. andy (talk) 11:27, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks the both of you for clarifying this. If any changes can be made to the administrative divisions page for the country or the page on thesbans that may help clarify this, that would be great. If not, not a big deal, but I can see how a novice looking into this like myself would be instantly confused.
One more question, however, related to something I asked above. We know that SAOs amd municipalities may not always cover the entire territory of a subdistrict/township, but does this also mean that a SAO or municipality may only cover part of a village, too? Or must the boundaries of the local governments always correspond to at least village boundaries? Can a local government split village boundaries? --Criticalthinker (talk) 06:30, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
@Criticalthinker: Yes, Muban can be partially in two different local administrations. And don't limit your thinking to SAO, many of the SAO have been upgraded to Thesaban already, so there also cases where Muban are split between two different Thesaban. andy (talk) 14:40, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. And, yeah, it's why I talked about both SAOs AND municipalities. I didn't forget about the thesaban. ;) --Criticalthinker (talk) 16:20, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Football in Bangkok[edit]

Hi, Can you contribute to the Football in Bangkok. I want to make the article like Football in London. But I don't have enough information. If you have any information, Please contribute the article. I have question. What is the accurate name? Thai League or Thai League 1. I think that first division name is just Thai League and Thai League also means all divisions.Footwiks (talk) 05:31, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, Footwiks, but I'm afraid I'm not quite familiar enough with the subject to help. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Can I discuss about the name of the page in thai football club session?[edit]

I've moved the discussion to Talk:Bangkok United F.C.#2018 name change. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:17, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ram Khamhaeng Inscription[edit]

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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Khuha Kharuehat Pavilion[edit]

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Chandet Sorpantrey[edit]

Hi Paul_012, Greetings, I saw you edited Chandet Sor Pantrey name, and would like to seek you help on finding source to verify "was a former Lumpinee Stadium champion in the early 1990s" as this page is on AfD at the moment. Source on his achievement would valid a stand alone article instead of deletion. Please let me know if you would able to help and thanks in advance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:14, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

I've actually seen the AfD, but couldn't find much so didn't comment earlier. Will do so now. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:45, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Appreciate it. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:12, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi Paul, I have withdrawn my Chandet Sor Pantrey normination for delete for the benefit of doubt since secondary source was found. I also have move the page name to Chandet Sor Prantalay. Thank you very much for the assisting. Face-smile.svg Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:49, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Jay Fai[edit]

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Gatoclass (talk) 13:32, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Renaming of the page AVANI[edit]

Hello Paul, With regards to renaming AVANI Hotels & Resorts to Avani Hotels & Resorts. The brand name of this hotel chain goes as AVANI (all capital) so It should be corrected so. :)

Pushpithaw82 (talk) 07:48, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Pushpithaw82, Wikipedia follows its own style guide regarding capitalisation, and brand and organisation names should use title case regardless of the style used by the brand itself (unless the name is an abbreviation). So we have Yahoo!, not YAHOO! and Sony Mobile, not SONY Mobile, etc, even though the companies themselves spell the names in all caps. You'll find more info at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:14, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Well noted sir. I do apologize for my ignorance. Pushpithaw82 (talk) 05:29, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK entries with Thai language sources[edit]

I have submitted two DYK entries with Thai-language sources. Would you care to take a look at them and assess them? They are:

Thank you, much appreciated.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 13:06, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

One more DYK entry?[edit]

Paul, do you think you can do one more DYK entry? Thank you very much!--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 12:31, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

I won't be able to look at this for quite a few more days. If no one's made a review then I'll give a look. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:34, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, appreciated!--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 16:02, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Paul, the hook is already being reviewed now. There is one other hook about from a WikiProject Thailand article that i proposed, and that is this one.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 08:18, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

OTRS[edit]

สวัสดีครับ เมี่อวานนี้ผมได้ถ่ายภาพนักเขียนซีไรต์ คุณชาติ กอบจิตติ (ภาพนี้) จึงจะมาถามครับว่า ภาพนักเขียนที่ผมถ่ายมาต้องใช้m:OTRSหรือเปล่าครับ ที่ผมถามเพราะกลัวเขาหาว่าไม่เชื่อครับ ขอบคุณล่วงหน้าครับ--Tvcccp (talk) 18:53, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

ถ้าภาพดังกล่าวไม่เคยเผยแพร่ที่อื่นมาก่อนก็ไม่ต้องครับ ผมเองคิดว่าสำหรับภาพนี้ ดูไม่น่ามีเหตุผลที่จะไม่เชื่อนะ --Paul_012 (talk) 13:12, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

OK Thanks you so much --Tvcccp (talk) 09:13, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Embassy of Portugal, Bangkok[edit]

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Invitation to join Women in Red[edit]

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Markhyun and my Talk page[edit]

I came to apologize for being so terse with you. I'm not the warmest, fuzziest administrator even in the best of times, but I've been sick for almost two weeks, and it makes me crankier than usual. I'm still not going to answer your question, but I'll explain a little why. CheckUsers have to make determinations all the time whether to tag the userpage of a sock. Many things go into that decision. Without going into detail, in this particular case the Markhyun account was definitely a sock, but it wasn't clear to me who the master was. Therefore, I intentionally left off the tag. It also means I couldn't tell you even if I felt comfortable policy-wise doing so.

As for your issue with the draft, did you want to know whether it was appropriate to tag the draft with WP:CSD#G5, or was it some other reason? If you explain that bit to me, perhaps I can help.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:31, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation—that helps a lot. Regarding the draft, the G5 issue was pretty much it, yes. Thanks. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:10, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
If I G5'd the draft, I'd be effectively making a determination of who the master is, and I'm unwilling to push that envelope. In addition, to be consistent, I'd have to G5 all the pages created by Markhyun (all apparently promoting NCT). I'm hardly an expert in bands and singers, but I don't see why this draft should be singled out. Sorry I can't do what you want.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:27, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Okay, thanks anyway. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:19, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Embassy of Portugal, Bangkok[edit]

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AfC notification: Draft:History of Thailand since 2001 has a new comment[edit]

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:History of Thailand since 2001. Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 22:24, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Per this edit: [6] I used the AfCH script to save the page from WP:G13 deletion and record that fact on the page so the next person working the G13 list would not seem deletion. Your revert was snarky and not useful. Legacypac (talk) 02:24, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

It may indeed be a limitation of the tools used, but your automated comments did not make any indication of such facts; I simply responded to what your edit stated. I'm not sure how you expect me to have understood otherwise. --Paul_012 (talk) 02:41, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Earth orbits[edit]

Could you check whether your condition is met, and update your !vote accordingly. Thanks, Armbrust The Homunculus 21:50, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Cancao[edit]

I just saw this article. Is this an actual thing? Artix Kreiger (talk) 14:11, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

A belated reply, as the article's been deleted, but as I mentioned in the previous AfD, "Cancao" appears to be a name found in historical Chinese documents, which is largely agreed to have referred to Hà Tiên. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:49, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Update for Dushdi Mala medal recipients[edit]

The Royal Thai Government Gazette is just published the list of Dushdi Mala medal recipients yesterdat. See http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2561/B/011/2.PDF

N.B. I have updated some element of the list of Dushdi Mala medal recipients in Thai Wikipedia, based on English Wikipedia Version, as a separated article because the list is very long. See the atricle th:รายพระนามและรายนามผู้ได้รับพระราชทานเหรียญดุษฎีมาลา.

--Xiengyod (talk) 06:12, 3 April 2018 (UTC) (This is my account originally use for Thai Wikipedia)

Thailand[edit]

Hello, I'm Horus from Thai Wikipedia. I look forward to re-nominate the article th:ประเทศไทย in Thai Wikipedia to be FA. Since I would not think there are many people who are interested in Thai Wikipedia, I would like you to take some time to review it whether it is "comprehensive" as in FA criteria or not. Thanks in advance! --Horus (talk) 13:37, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm a bit busy at the moment, but I'll see if I can drop by and take a look sometime. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:16, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for replying on my behalf for the DYK of History of Wat Phra Dhammakaya! ---Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 12:39, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination[edit]

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Yotsapon Teangdar[edit]

Hi Paul 012, I saw your comments at the deletion discussion for Yotsapon Teangdar and clicked on those four four two links but can't read them. Was wondering if there is anything in those links that could be added to his article to pad it out as it is pretty bare at the moment and could use more? If so, possible for you to add it in? Thanks NZFC(talk) 21:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

I've added most of what's in the articles. I'm not familiar with football terms, so please correct any mistakes you find. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:58, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Royal Turf Club of Thailand[edit]

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Just as a side question: since you appear to be Thai or otherwise work on Thailand-related articles, are you familiar with Bangkok Comic Con (aka Thailand Comic Con) and Anime Festival Asia Thailand? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:46, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing. Regarding Comic Con and Anime Festival, I must say I know next to nothing about the events. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:59, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Editing/merging SDxCentral[edit]

Thank you for the heads-up! I'm a fairly new user, so I'll have to wait for approval from an editor for a history merge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarleseL (talkcontribs) 20:17, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Your revert on Rice wine[edit]

Hello. The article has been tagged as lacking references since 2008, and the material that I removed was totally unsourced, while variants that have an own article were left untouched, since they have sources in their respective article (or at least are supposed to have sources there...). But feel free to add it again, provided you add sources for it. Cheers, - Tom | Thomas.W talk 20:18, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Thomas.W, I don't have any intention of working on that article. Seeing as no one really cares about it, I won't argue against the removal (though the ideal course of action for dealing with unreferenced material would be to first determine if the content is verifiable, and then add the missing citations if it is and remove the unverified content if not). The problem is that you left a lot of stranded redirects which now point to a target article making no mention of the terms. Please also nominate them for deletion. Thanks. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:31, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Royal Bangkok Sports Club[edit]

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DYK nom invalid because of current events portal listing?[edit]

Hello Paul, I need your advice once more: I have got a DYK nomination that has been featured before at a current events portal. It is the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Japan article. Two questions:

  1. Was it the main link that was featured on the front page?
  2. Does this make the DYK nomination invalid?

Let me know what you think. Thanks, --Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 12:14, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Current Events doesn't appear on the Main Page. I've replied at the DYK nom. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:02, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Royal Turf Club of Thailand[edit]

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Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Snarky Revertimg my edit[edit]

My edit here saved your draft from G13 deletion. The snarky revert of my effort to help you was uncalled for and unhelpful. [7] Legacypac (talk) 02:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I already responded to your previous message fourteen sections above. I'm not sure what you expect to achieve with this second posting. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:08, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Royal Bangkok Sports Club[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 20 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Royal Bangkok Sports Club, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in addition to being the oldest racecourse and second-oldest golf course in Thailand, the Royal Bangkok Sports Club also served as its first airfield? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Royal Bangkok Sports Club. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Royal Bangkok Sports Club), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 01:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Impact, Muang Thong Thani[edit]

สวัสดีครับ คุณPaul 012 รบกวนแก้ Impact, Muang Thong Thani กลับเป็น IMPACT Arena, Exhibition and Convention Center, Muang Thong Thani เหมือนเดิมครับเพราะชื่อไม่เป็นทางการและผิดครับ และเวลา Google Search มันจะแสดงข้อมูลจาก Wikipedia มาแสดงทางด้านขวาซึ่งเป็นชื่อที่ผิดครับ Reference: www.google.com/search?q=impact --Guydido (talk) 03:20, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Please see the concerns listed on the article talk page. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

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DYK for Pilok[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 24 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pilok, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Thai mining town of Pilok was so harshly inaccessible that its ore had to be transported by elephant? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pilok. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Pilok), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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MfD nomination of Draft:History of Thailand since 2001[edit]

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DYK for Si Prat[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 1 June 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Si Prat, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that according to legend, the governor who ordered the execution of 17th-century Thai poet Si Prat was later executed with the same sword, fulfilling the poet's curse? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Si Prat. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Si Prat), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 05:33, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for 2017–18 Thai temple fraud investigations[edit]

Would you mind reviewing this? It has Thai source, and it is difficult to find someone knowledgeable about this.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 18:34, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I had expected to find some time to do this, but have been quite a bit busy. I guess it would probably be sorted out before I'm available. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:03, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Kleeb Lamduan[edit]

Hi Paul 012, Kleeb Lamduan is capitalised because that's what all the sources I can find use, so per MOS:CAPS, that's what we should use. Can you please remove your CSD from the redirect and reinstate my good faith changes that you reverted. Sarahj2107 (talk) 05:55, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Replied at the article talk page. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:41, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Chakkrawat Road[edit]

Please note that sources are needed to demonstrate notability, and do add the sources when you deprod. Otherwise it will go to a AfD anyway. Hzh (talk) 11:38, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

United States Naval Special Warfare Command[edit]

Your revert edit summary cites WP:HAT. I have to ask... did you read it? "Basic rule #1" states:

Link directly to other articles; do not pipenon-disambiguation links. Linking to redirects is typically not preferred, although of course exceptions can occur.

. (bolding mine) In this case, you are linking to a re-direct based on a page move that hasn't even occurred yet, and might not occur at all. Linking to the article with its current title in the "See also" is not only sufficient, but appropriate. A self-revert here is called for. - wolf 12:00, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Thewolfchild, kindly re-check my second edit, which did not link to the redirect. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:11, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Ah, so it wasn't a revert, it was just an edit. And a rather puerile use of the "undo" function. My post above still supports my revert, (which actually was a revert). So now you have a hatnote to a completely different article title...? How is that even remotely necessary? And why is it that you are sooo opposed to a link in the "See also" section? Which should certainly suffice in directing the millions of lost daily "Thai Navy SEAL" page seekers... - wolf 12:25, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Thewolfchild, I didn't use the undo function for that edit. Did it trigger the notification? That's rather odd, since it isn't marked (Tag: Undo) in the article history. In any case, links in the See also section are intended for readers who have finished reading the current article, suggesting related topics they might be interested in. Hatnotes, on the other hand, are for readers who inadvertently arrive at the article while searching for another, so that they may find their intended target. In this case, Naval Special Warfare Command is an ambiguous term which may refer to either the US or Thai units. Readers looking for the Thai unit who type its official name in the search bar will be redirected to United States Naval Special Warfare Command. A hatnote is needed to correctly lead them to the article about the Thai unit. FYI, Natg 19 initially added the hatnote in response to an edit to Naval Special Warfare Command, which converted it to a disambiguation page. Since the disambiguation page contained only two links, it was redirected and the hatnote added per WP:2DABS: "If there are only two topics to which a given title might refer, and one is the primary topic, then a disambiguation page is not needed—it is sufficient to use a hatnote on the primary topic article, pointing to the other article." --Paul_012 (talk) 12:41, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I did get a notification. Your rather lengthy reply aside, that hatnote looks silly. If you won't change it back, so be it, but once that RM is closed, it will likely be changed anyway. (fyi). Have a nice day. - wolf 13:20, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

YUY and UDY is not nonsense![edit]

It is total sense! How can you possibly think that YUY and UDY is nonsense?

UDY

Yobbin (talk) 01:58, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Murder of Jenjira Ploy-angunsri[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Death of Hangthong Thammawattana[edit]

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Nomination of Murder of Jenjira Ploy-angunsri for deletion[edit]

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Nomination of Death of Hangthong Thammawattana for deletion[edit]

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List of mountains in Thailand[edit]

Hello Paul 012 - My changes are by no means "Qutie clearly erroneous". On the Internet you will find three names, which are supposed to affect all the same mountain. Phu Thap Boek, Phu Tabberg and Phu Man Khao. This is "Qutie clearly erroneous". As you could check yourself - there are actually three different mountains, in different places. Phu Thap Boek is located in Phu Hin Rong Klao National Park in Loei Province. Phu Tabberg is located in Phetchabun province. Phu Man Khao is located in Phitsanulok province. So clearly three different mountains. On the internet, someone invented this name confusion - many companies (for example: Agoda, Tripadvisor) have taken over these false texts unchecked. Since Wikipedians should do better research for their texts, I would like to have revised these three mountains / contributions. On the Internet can be found a lot of false information. Are we packing? With kind regards --KusiD (talk) 06:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

For anyone with a basic familiarity with the Thai language, "Tabberg" is very obviously a non-standard alternative romanisation of Thap Boek. There is no Phu Thap Boek or Tabberg in Phu Hin Rong Kla NP; its highest point is Phu Man Khao. The confusion you refer to indeed appears to be the cause of the misattribution. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:11, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Hello Paul_012 - Okay - Phu Tabberk exists just like Phu Thap Boek. Proofs? May I help you:

Phu Tabberk - Coordinates: 16° 53' 51.70" N, 101° 06' 19.63" E. This mountain is falsely referred to in Wikipedia as Phu Thap Boek. Please study the link below and you will notice that there is exactly the Phu Tabberk (with picture!) Described - which is called on Wiki as Phu Thap Boek. On the Phu Tabberk I was personally already. It can be found there a board with just that name and the elevation.

Link: https://www.tourismthailand.org/Attraction/Phu-Tabberk--4837

Phu Thap Boek - Coordinates16° 54' 24.27" N, 101° 05' 10.31" E. This is a very different mountain than described in Wiki. This is in the Phu Hin Rong Kla National Park and is densely wooded. It has a very eventful history and today still houses various military facilities. Read the following link - and you know more than many "Internet specialists".

Link: https://www.thainationalparks.com/phu-hin-rong-kla-national-park

Whether someone is familiar with the Thai language or not - this has nothing to do with it - but with factual research. That there is a Phu Thap Boek in the Phu Hin Rong Kla NP is indeed confirmed with the above link from official side. That the Phu Tabberk should stand in the Phu Hin Rong Kla NP I have never said. So - no confusion and no misallocation - only misserable research has led to this confusion.

What do you think? With kind regards --KusiD (talk) 13:36, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

It's best to keep conversation in one place. I'll copy continue the conversation at Talk:Phu Thap Boek. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:29, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Article[edit]

Hi, I saw you were the latest person to edit Bad Romance the series, I noticed somebody messed with my page "Yihwa (character)" and redirected it to Bad Romance for whatever reason, can you fix it? I don't know how to get my page back. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nezi 05 (talkcontribs) 10:23, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Nezi 05, I redirected the page because the fictional character Yihwa does not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline. You could revert the change by following the page link and clicking the "redirected from..." message at the top of the page in desktop mode, but it's very likely to be deleted if an Articles for Deletion discussion is started. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:53, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Dear Paul[edit]

I want you to help me decide about a page List of palaces in Bangkok in my opinion I think this page is duplicate with List of Thai royal residences and it will make a problem about updating and information is duplicate. For the solution I reference the prototype page List of British royal residences they don't have List of palaces in London page. they have only Category:Palaces in London so I propose to delete List of palaces in Bangkok page and substitute with Category:Palaces in Bangkok.

This solution help us to prove and update Wikipedia easily.

P.S. I would like to invite @Sodacan: to help to solve this problem too. Ministerboy (talk) 04:13, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Ministerboy, I was pretty much thinking the same thing back then when I revised the pages. But the current list structure doesn't make it easy for readers to identify Bangkok palaces in the main list. A category wouldn't be an adequate substitute, as there are list entries that still lack articles. Probably the best way would be to re-format the main list as a sortable Wikitable. This way it'd be simple for readers to sort the list by location. I don't really like using tables for lists like these, but it's probably the best solution. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:04, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Microphylls and Megaphills[edit]

I would draw your attention to the fact that the title of this page is spelled incorrectly. Plantsurfer 11:07, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry for that. Fixed now. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:10, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply about connected accounts[edit]

helloo i dont have connected accs (: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maengss (talkcontribs) 10:16, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Paul explain Dom from Paris for him delete incorrect[edit]

Seekwae and North Vachiralai Chiangmai United I use a lot of density reference for Thailand Amateur League but Dom from Paris delete it because this team don't play National cup. I think it don't make sense. This league is lower levels of National cup. If he use this cause. I can't create any new Amateur team. I don't complain Frace Amateur team beacause I can't read French language.Aquaelfin (talk) 17:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@Aquaelfin: Please read your talk page where I have reminded about communicating in English on talk pages. As you have mentioned me in the title of this comment please translate or remove the comment. --Dom from Paris (talk) 17:31, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Also as you seem to be referring to my AFD nominations please read the WP:CANVASSING notification I have left on your talk page. Dom from Paris (talk) 17:35, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the translation. As I explained it is not absolutely necessary to be Thai speaker to be able to judge sources when reviewing articles. Thanks to Google translate we can have a very fair idea of the quality of a source. When I nominate I always add to deletion sorting the country concerned by the article so that anyone watching can participate. You have used the same sources in a large number of article such as Thai fourfourtwo and as Paul_012 has already pointed out it cannot be considered as a reliable source. I would be grateful if Paul could have a look at the recent nominations and give his opinion about the sources. I have just seen that Paul has also nominated some of your articles so I don't think that you were canvassing now. You have created an awful lot of articles about new clubs that have never played a game so it is very unliklely they will pass the notabilty requirements. i would suggest that you wait until they have participated in the Thai FA cup before creating the article or at least have played a full season. --Dom from Paris (talk) 17:59, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
I'll get around to commenting on the AfDs. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate article[edit]

Hello! I seem to have inadvertently created a duplicate article. I saw Khrong Chandawong listed as a missing high-priority bio in the Thailand project and created the page, and then noticed you had already created Krong Chandawong. I'd like to merge the pages together and leave one as a redirect, but I am not sure which spelling to use as the primary. Since you seem to be literate in Thai, and I am not, I will be happy to defer to your judgement on the matter, since the sources seem evenly split on it. Thanks! PohranicniStraze (talk) 03:16, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Ah... actually, another editor created the article now at Krong Chandawong, but it was me who moved it to this spelling. I also longer ago added the name to the request list, following the names listed in the appendix to Baker & Phongpaichit's History of Thailand, and forgot about it. To answer the question, though, I'm not quite sure myself, but I'm leaning toward Khrong Chandawong, if only because it's used by the more familiar recent sources (Baker & Phongpaichit, Thak Chaloemtiarana). I'll go ahead and redirect the other article to your version, which is much better written. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:26, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply! I think I've merged some of the relevant material in, like the photo and the connection with Tiang Sirikhanth; do you think there's anything else useful to add from the Thai-language source in the previous article? PohranicniStraze (talk) 15:09, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
There's quite a bit of detail regarding his family and personal life, but it's a forum post so we probably shouldn't rely too much on it, I think. --Paul_012 (talk) 00:25, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Chaophraya Phrasadet Surentharathibodi[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 8 October 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chaophraya Phrasadet Surentharathibodi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Chao­phraya Phra­sadet Suren­thara­thibodi (pictured) wrote a manual on etiquette in order to teach proper manners to Siam's newly educated class? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chaophraya Phrasadet Surentharathibodi. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Chaophraya Phrasadet Surentharathibodi), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

#REDIRECT[edit]

I am สุขุมวิท39 who redirect the page you just move because I was asking for the move but had not have the answer.

I do not know why I cannot sign in but I was asking for someone to look at the person who put delete on th:ฐิฏา รังสิตพล มานิตกุล and s:th:พันโทหญิงฐิฏา รังสิตพล มานิตกุล

Thita Rangsitpol Manitkul is her name the person who edit it before may not know it .

Could you please check,what is the problem of my account?110.171.96.213 (talk) 04:31, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Your account appears to have been globally locked by User:Bsadowski1. The place to appeal such locks seems to be meta:Steward requests/Global. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:54, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks you110.171.96.213 (talk)

Dear Paul 012[edit]

I have some issue to ask you in Thailand national under-21 football team page, I think it is not necessary to create this page due to in Asia football other country in Asia use only U17 U20 and U23 no U21 and the important is in the official continent match their are no compettiton about U21. Their have only friendly compettition and you can see in other asia country their are no U21 team. So can you please delete or make a discussion to delete U21 page cuz it overlap with U23 page.

U21 is only policy from the FA to send a player to U23 in official match so U21 is not a main or important to have a page on Wikipedia.

Thank You Ministerboy (talk) 08:06, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

I don't think I'm familiar enough with the subject to comment on the issue. But you could nominate it at WP:AfD. Doing so is quite simple if you have WP:Twinkle enabled in your preferences. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:23, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

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Rajavithi Hospital[edit]

Hello there, you restored this article with claim that it is the "Largest hospital under the Ministry of Public Health, clearly notable". Are you going to verify that claim? as the article is currently sourced only to the official website of the hospital. Secondly, you said "Sourcing alone is not reason not to allow an article", you are an old editor so you must be aware of WP:V. Where does it say that sourcing is not important?

I will also like to bring this ANI case to your attention where the user thought moving back drafts to mainspace without adding sources is fine. He was recently blocked indefinitely. Regards Hitro talk 13:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

A source's non-independence does not preclude its being used to support statements about itself, per WP:ABOUTSELF. I did not say sourcing is not important. What I meant is that having few citations is not reason not to allow an article to exist and be improved in Mainspace. Moving a page to draft, like any other edit, is subject to the WP:BRD, so I don't see anything wrong with reverting disputed draftifications. Failing agreement, the article can always be brought to AfD for further discussion. I usually follow the line of thought of Wikipedia:There is no deadline, and the article wasn't high on my priority list, but since you asked nicely despite what came across as a thinly veiled threat, I've expanded the article. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:25, 20 November 2018 (UTC)