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July 2013[edit]

Hello, I'm Yintan. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Andy Irvine (musician), but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks.  Yinta 23:34, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you[edit]

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For all the work you've done on Andy Irvine's article. Cheers,  Yinta 22:12, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
PS: You do need to polish it once a month Face-wink.svg

Talkback again and a PS as well[edit]

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Hello helpful Wikipedians; I re-structured the contents of my user page yesterday and also used the 'hidden' facility to collapse a lot of lists under single-line headers for the reader to click on ('show'/'hide'). Although I saved my changes as I went along, the latest structure of my user page only shows all my changes when I am logged in; when I log out, my user page appears as if I had never made the changes in the first place. I find this rather odd, since all my changes were always effective immediately after I had applied them, regardless of whether I was logged in or out. Very many thanks for any clarification or suggestion(s) anyone might be able to offer. With kind regards; Patrick. Pdebee (talk) 10:18, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't know the cause, but this happens sometimes. I have purged the page to give the servers a kick, which might help. If that doesn't work, you could try bypassing your browser cache - that's Ctrl-F5 in many browsers. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:33, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


A cookie for you![edit]

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Hurdy-gurdy comments[edit]

Thanks for your thoughtful comments on the Hurdy-gurdy article. I've responded on the talk page there, but I'd encourage you to make the changes you suggest. They all make sense to me. I have one question on the “imbalance” with regard to the Hungarian tradition, but I suspect that I'm just unclear on your feelings there since it seems to me that you actually want more information added, not some sort of paring back. But please feel free to rework the article. I'd say that 70% of what is there is content I wrote a long time ago and it is time for a good shaking up. If you want to add and restructure in the way you suggest, I fully support you.

Fenevad (talk) 08:26, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Also, thanks for the many small edits you made to the article. That's the most systematic clean-up it's had since I stopped actively working on it some time ago due to changes in job and family situation. While I don't have much time to clean it up now, I do appreciate seeing that someone else is taking care of it. It's much appreciated -Fenevad (talk) 08:45, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear Fenevad, ;-)
Many thanks for making contact, for reviewing my earlier updates & comments on the hg article and for updating both its talk page and mine in this section; above all, I really appreciate your constructive and encouraging comments there, as well as here, and I have now also responded to you there. I am looking forward to our continued collaboration, whenever convenient to you.
Until then, please keep well.
With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee. (talk) 13:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

External link to fansite added by[edit]

Hello '',

I noticed that you added an external link to a fansite in the 'External Links' section of the article about Andy Irvine. I just wanted to warn you that it is very likely that your update will be reverted, because Wikipedia guidelines advise against adding blogs and fansites, as explained at point 11. in the list of 'External links to be avoided'.

I have seen fan-sites added to this article (among others) before, and they were soon reverted by administrators and their 'bots'.

With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee. (talk) 17:21, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

From the other side of the World[edit]

The Barnstar that you have awarded is much appreciated, thank you. Summerdrought (talk) 19:38, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Bot operator's barnstar[edit]

Thank you so much! :) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 13:41, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Marcus Turner query[edit]

Hi, Patrick. I've answered your query about the Marcus Turner article on my talk page (I prefer to keep conversations on one page, as I lose track otherwise). Koro Neil (talk) 12:47, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Another response on my talk page. Koro Neil (talk) 01:42, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate[edit]

your cleaning up my spelling, or rather, lack of spelling, at User:WobblyWomen‎'s talk page. I wish we could sit down with a six-pack (or what ever you have in the UK) and discuss your other edit, on her (?) user page. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 16:15, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians cheering up[edit]

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A cookie for you![edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Hello Pdebee.Recently you have signed my guestbook! Thank you very much for signing my guestbook. Cheers.Face-smile.svg--Pratyya (Hello!) 14:25, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

PS; Sorry for the delay. I had some real life issues. Face-smile.svg --Pratyya (Hello!) 14:25, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Planxty reunion[edit]

Hi Patrick!

My name is Enricomaria. I read your interesting page on Planxty today. I was in Dublin for the Planxty reunion in 2004, a few days after the New Year's eve. However I'm pretty sure that the concet of the 4th of January was at The Point, not at Vicar's Street as you wrote. I think I still have the ticket somewhere. The problem is that the ticket, if still in existence, is at my old place in Turin, Italy, while at the moment I'm living in Stockholm, Sweden. Anyway, it's not so important and your article is absolutely great. Thanks for your contribution Enrimath (talk) 15:55, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Enrico! Face-smile.svg
Thank you for your message and kind words; they're very much appreciated!
Thank you also for the correction you're suggesting. I will look into the sources I used for the Planxty reunion dates and locations, and then update the present section later on. Normally, I would do this straight away but I am quite busy at the moment and will be for the next few days. However, please know that I will definitely aim to fix this if I can, as I am always striving to ensure there is a third-party source for everything I contribute to the encyclopaedia. Of course, if some of these 3rd-party sources are wrong, then it's going to be tricky! Face-wink.svg
I also notice that you are a brand new user and made your first edit today, and to my user page no less! So, a very warm welcome to you and I hope you will enjoy your time here, either as a reader or maybe also as a contributing editor. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if your user and/or talk pages get updated very soon with a 'Welcome' message from editors who like to take 'newbies' (= newcomers) under their wings.
But if you look at my user page, you will see that I collected a lot of links to Wikipedia articles that provide details about editorial guidelines, such as the 'Manual Of Style' (WP:MOS); you can find all these links here. May I also suggest that, if you want some help in getting started as an editor, you can ask me and I will edit a few pointers in your own user- and talk-pages. You don't *have* to do any of these things, but if you're interested and have the time, then I'll be happy to help you in your first steps. So, just let me know, OK?
Finally, although I made quite a few changes to the Planxty article (and especially to the article on Andy Irvine), one of the essential principles of our encyclopaedia is that these articles do not 'belong' to any one editor: we all contribute what we can without any article ever becoming 'mine'. In my case, I just happen to have been a Planxty (and Irvine) fan for a long time and had kept a lot of reference material (mainly my collection of folk music magazines) that proved very useful to update the articles. I am still working on the Irvine article and the next tasks will be to create related articles for some of the albums. Then, of course, we need more photos but these are very difficult to include because of the copyright rules in Wikipedia.
So, Enrico, thank you for your helpful message and I will update this section when I have done a bit more research into the topic. Until then, please keep well, and enjoy reading my user page for useful links to get you started as an editor, if you wish.
With kindest regards for now; Face-smile.svg
Patrick. ツ Pdebee. (talk) 16:50, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi again, Enrico; Face-smile.svg
I was intrigued by your earlier message and, after supper, I went into my dusty Archives Room (Face-wink.svg) and checked various sources. I am *very* happy to report that you were absolutely correct: Planxty indeed played three extra gigs at the Point Theatre on 3, 4 and 5 January 2005, which I had omitted to include in both the Planxty and Andy Irvine articles! I also consulted O'Toole's book who, in the two paragraphs (on page 323) about the gigs at the Point, wrote: "The next two concerts happened on 3 and 4 January 2005." He doesn't mention 5 January 2005, but the Tara web site still has all these dates advertised to this day, and they include "5 January, 2005"; so, I will also add this date (in both articles) until someone tells me s/he knows for sure that they did *not* play on that day and that O'Toole was therefore correct (i.e., that he did not omit it in error).
Once again, Enrico, thank you *very* much for helping me to correct this oversight on my part! Face-smile.svg
With kindest regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee. (talk) 20:20, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Patrick! Thanks for the useful info about Wikipedia's editing and for confirming that I can still count on my memory :). I'll gladly have a look to your other articles. Thakns again (talk) 08:18, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Enrico! Face-smile.svg
You're welcome; I am grateful to you for pointing out this oversight on my part; so I owe you one!
By the way, next time you want to experiment as an editor, just sign in using your username ('Enrimath') and then let me know if you need any assistance. If I am around, the Status light will display 'Online' in green at the top right hand corner of my userpage.
Until then, please keep well and happy! Face-smile.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee. (talk) 12:02, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Typo Team Barnstar[edit]

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Saw all the corrections you made on the projects works completed page. Great job! Here's a barnstar for you! Jason Quinn (talk) 22:26, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
@Jason Quinn: Dear Jason; Face-smile.svg
Thank you! This is very kind and thoughtful of you, and I appreciate it very much.
I have been busy on non-Wiki projects of late and only logging in to carry out low-level editorial activity. But normal Typo Team service will be resumed soon. Until then, 'Spirit of Eagle' is clearly doing a phenomenal job, don't you think?
Also, I enjoyed reading your user page and it seems our editorial approaches are quite similar, even though your contributions are clearly way ahead of mine! This makes your award even more meaningful to me.
So, thank you once again for the barnstar, and for all your efforts in support of our encyclopaedia!
Please keep well and happy, Jason. Face-smile.svg
With kindest regards for now;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee. (talk) 10:20, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Happy Halloween!!![edit]

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Cheers! "We could read for-EVER; reading round the wiki!" (talk) 18:31, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for the kind message when life hit a new low KylieTastic (talk) 17:57, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
@KylieTastic: Thank you *so* much! I hope you're feeling better and also that the PC has now been fully repaired, so that you can keep up the excellent work you do here at the Wiki! Face-smile.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk) 20:55, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Kindness and understanding[edit]

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Thank-you for your kindness and understanding (which, I see from your Talk page, is not a new thing for you)! It is such a contrast to other editors who appear nationalistic and don't assume good faith. But as for you, I dearly want to work with you now on anything at all. Face-smile.svg
Prhartcom (talk) 22:12, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
@Prhartcom: Thank you very much for taking the time to extend gratitude. Apparently, there's over 20 million of us, editing the wiki! That we would all be understanding and patient friends, helping each other to achieve this monument none of us could ever hope to build alone. I'll be glad to 'bump' into you at some future stage, working on improving another article.Face-smile.svg
Until then, keep well and joyful, and please continue to do your best for the wiki.Face-smile.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk) 22:47, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
You too, and if you ever need a copy edit or a review, let me know. Just throwing it out there: I am looking for a reviewer. Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 22:52, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

New user boxes[edit]

Thank you - I have corrected it. It looks like it's back to school for me then! Hogweard (talk) 07:41, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

@Hogweard: You're most welcome.Face-smile.svg Well, don't worry about it; some of these cases can be a difficulty for us native francophones also.Face-wink.svg Take care; Patrick.ツ Pdebee.(talk) 10:58, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
@Hogweard: Dear Hogweard, Face-smile.svg
Please forgive me also for mentioning that the suffix '-ci' in French also demands a hyphen between it and the noun it qualifies; so, the form would be 'celui-ci' and, in your two cases: 'cet utilisateur-ci' and 'cette utilisatrice-ci'. Please see the more detailed explanation here:
I apologise for missing this detail the first time around; I only spotted it now, as I was looking at that page again. Face-wink.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk) 15:10, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Why is a 'Div' column longer than it needs to be?[edit]

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Hello helpful Wikipedians; Face-smile.svg
If you look at my user page, you can see that I have listed the articles to which I have contributed and, because there are many, I have displayed them in two columns, using the 'Div col' facility. This has worked perfectly for all my lists, except for this sub-section: Music (recordings).
As you can see, the vertical line created by the 'rules=yes' option does not terminate with the last entry in each of the two columns, as it does for all my other lists; rather, for this sub-section only (!), the vertical line continues for another two inches or so, and I can't figure out why. At first, I thought that some rogue blank lines were causing this result, but there aren't any left in that sub-section, or in any of the neighbouring sections or sub-sections.
It's obviously a trivial issue in the overall scheme of our encyclopaedia Face-wink.svg, but I am puzzled by this strange outcome and would appreciate some assistance, please.
Thank you very much in advance for your help, just in case anyone has come across this symptom before and knows what causes it.
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk) 21:40, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Looks perfectly normal to me. I think the issue might be that the left column is one line longer than the right, making it look like the line is too long. In the "Music" subsection the opposite happens (the right col is longer than the left). Primefac (talk) 22:17, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
@Primefac: Thank you very much for your prompt reply. Face-smile.svg
However, I find it perplexing, and I wonder whether we are seeing the same thing displayed on our respective screens.
When I look at the subject sub-section on my screen, the vertical line continues beyond the last visible entries as if to allow enough space for an additional 5 or 6 invisible entries on both sides; this does not appear normal to me, hence my call for help. All the other sub-sections on my user page show the vertical line terminating alongside the last visible entry of text in the longest column (by 1, as you say, on either the left or right); that is the norm I'd expect.
Please may I ask you this: when you look at the subject sub-section, do you see the vertical line continuing way beyond the last entries ('Vên' on the left and 'Transatlantic Sessions' on the right), as I described in bold above? Or do you see the vertical line terminating exactly alongside 'Vên' (the longest, by 1 entry, of the two columns)?
Thank you for your input so far.
With kind regards;
Patrick.ツ Pdebee.(talk) 01:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
The latter; I see all of the vertical lines throughout the page ending exactly where I would expect them to end. Might be a browser thing which is causing it (I'm on Firefox Beta). If you want to re-open the help tag and get more advice, feel free. Primefac (talk) 10:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
@Primefac: Thank you very much for your feedback: it's really helpful to know that the data is displayed correctly at your end and that it might be a browser issue (it wouldn't be the first time); I'll follow up on that before re-opening the help tag.
Please also forgive this late acknowledgement: I have just returned home after being away for three days; hence the delay in returning thanks.
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk) 17:26, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
@Primefac: Just to let you know, out of courtesy, that the columns terminated as expected after I removed the last entry that appeared on the left column: Vên. I still don't know why it caused the glitch but it might have something to do with the special character in the middle of the name ('ê'), combined with my browser (since we established that you did not observe the glitch with Firefox at your end. In any case, I am not going to spend any more time on this, since it's gone away. Face-smile.svg Thank you once again for your help.
With kind rgeards
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk) 01:10, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Very odd solution, but I'm glad things have turned out in the end! Primefac (talk) 09:50, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Happy Valentine's Day!!![edit]

Happy Valentine's Day, to you and yours! Cheers, Grinding, grinding, grinding... what are we finding, finding, finding... (talk) 22:29, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you[edit]

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Awarded for you frequent participation in the Typo Team and the numerous spelling corrections you have made to Wikipedia. Please keep up the good work! Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:02, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


@Spirit of Eagle: Dear Spirit of Eagle, Face-smile.svg
Thank you very much for your kind thought; coming from such an active contributor to our Typo Team as yourself, this barnstar is all the more appreciated! I am sure our usernames will continue to feature repeatedly in that log of typos fixed; so, we shall be keeping each other in good company! Face-wink.svg
Take care and thank you also for all your contributions.
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk) 11:12, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Changing Trains[edit]

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Thank you![edit]

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Deletion discussion about Live from Patrick Street[edit]

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A barnstar for you! (From RichardOSmith)[edit]

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For outstanding contributions that expand the scope of coverage of Andy Irvine (musician) and his works. RichardOSmith (talk) 10:27, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
@RichardOSmith: Wow!!! Thanks alot, Richard! Face-smile.svg
That's really very thoughtful of you! Thank you so much for taking the time; I appreciate it greatly!
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk) 10:37, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter![edit]

All the best! "Carry me down, carry me down; carry me down into the wiki!" (talk) 21:17, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk back[edit]

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A cheeseburger for you![edit]

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You are so kind :)[edit]

Heiße Schokolade.jpg Thank you for your kind hospitality. Here's a cup of hot chocolate for you. Have a great day! ;) JocelynTalk to me 13:27, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for the kind words (and the proofreading)! It's definitely a great article. Maybe we can raise its status to Good Article some day. :) Neodop (talk) 23:40, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

  • Hey, I understand the confusion. His first name is Juan de Marcos^ (the second part of his name, "de Marcos", is after his father, famous singer Marcos González Mauriz), González is his paternal surname and Cárdenas his maternal surname. His daughters are Laura Lidia González Abreu and Gliceria Lidia González Abreu, and his son is Juan de Marcos González Abreu. Since his name is so long he is commonly referred to by his first name alone (also, "González" alone would be ambiguous in the article). I hope this clears it up for you :) Neodop (talk) 22:21, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
^Compound names in Spanish might or might not include "de", for example: José Luis (not José de Luis), María del Carmen (not María Carmen).
@Neodop: Dear friend 'Neodop', Face-smile.svg
Thank you for taking the time to explain the function of 'de' in this case. I knew his father's first name was 'Marcos', but I mistakenly thought that 'Marcos' had become the first part of Juan's paternal surname, and that the 'de' was therefore used to clarify that his first name was not the compound 'Juan Marcos' (like a Spanish version of 'Jean-Marc' in French). In any case, I am happy to defer to your greater knowledge of these subtleties, and I thank you for your patient explanation.
Therefore, I fully agree with you about the use of his first name, 'Juan de Marcos', as a way of resolving the ambiguity that would result from applying MOS:SURNAME in this case, since we also needed a way to differentiate between 'Juan de Marcos González' and 'Rubén González'.
Thank you for your continued contributions to this article, like the recordings Rubén made with Raúl Planas. Face-wink.svg
You will notice that I have now also added the new section on 'Filmography'. Face-smile.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 08:03, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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Happy editing!

{{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 22:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

@Technical 13: Dear friend, Face-smile.svg
Thank you for the kitten in a helmet! Face-wink.svg
But seriously: I apologise for creating a 'false' null edit. I had not realized—until you reverted it—that I can add any page into my Watchlist without first editing it; all I need to do is update my 'raw' Watchlist with the page name and click on the 'Update' button. I did not know this before you reverted my ... erm... 'real blank' edit. Face-wink.svg
Thanks once again for being so nice about it! Face-smile.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 22:48, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
  • You don't even need to do that. Just click the white star after read|edit|history at the top of the page. When it turns blue, it's on your watchlist. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 23:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
@Technical 13: Dear friend, Face-smile.svg
In the immortal words of Levon Helm (while he was marveling at Garth Hudson's ragtime piano playing on "Rag Mama Rag"): "Ain't it easy when you know how! ..." Face-wink.svg
Thank you so much for taking the time to teach me those elementary functions I should have mastered long ago! Face-smile.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 23:33, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

May 2015[edit]

Information icon Thank you for your contributions. Please mark your edits, such as your recent edits to Andy Irvine (musician), as "minor" only if they are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". Thank you. EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 19:13, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

@EoRdE6: Dear EoRdE6, Face-smile.svg
Thank you for your message above. I have now read the guidelines on Help:Minor edit (for the first time) and fully agree with you that I have not been applying these guidelines appropriately. Therefore, I very much appreciate your reminder and will now adhere strictly to the guidelines. As you will have noticed, I strive to add ref tags to the overwhelming majority of my edits, so that these can be reviewed by other editors interested in this article. I also pride myself in making my edit summaries very clear and explicit when describing changes I apply. I dare say that these two aspects of my editing style should greatly assist other editors in satisfying themselves that my changes are beneficial and underpinned by referenced sources, especially if these fellow editors also have the same source materials at their disposal for consultation and verification. Finally, as you might have seen from the article's talk page, I tend to make myself accountable to other editors and have complied with advice and suggestions on those extremely rare occasions when I was approached. In summary, I believe I have significantly improved the subject article while also enjoying being bold in this labour of love.
In that positive spirit, I fully agree with you that I certainly need to check the 'Minor edit' less automatically than hitherto, and I am grateful to you for bringing this to my attention; thanks once again! Face-smile.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 19:58, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedians by musical instrument[edit]

Hi, Category:Wikipedians by musical instrument is a container cat (subcats only). Please consider a subcat if you wish to categorize User:Pdebee. Thanks, Slivicon (talk) 03:42, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@Slivicon: Dear Slivicon; Face-smile.svg
Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention. You were quite correct and I am grateful to you for having taken the time to contact me; I apologise for any inconvenience caused. I have now removed the two wikilinks and checked that my username no longer appears in that category. Thanks again! Face-smile.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 20:01, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
@Pdebee: No inconvenience at all, I'm just Wikignoming Container categories. Thanks for your co-operation. Take care, Slivicon (talk) 20:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

SImultaenous updates[edit]

Thanks for getting in touch - it was done in error as you say, think a result of them occurring at the same time! Thanks for helping to clear up. User:Vaze50 (talk) 14:16, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

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A minor return[edit]

I'm back. Ish. Glad to see you're still around. Yintan  16:13, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

@Yintan: Dear Yintan; Face-smile.svg
Welcome back! What wonderful news! I hope you have returned with renewed motivation, to do as little or as much as you want in support of our encyclopedia. Whatever it will be, I know it will be excellent and I am very pleased you're back! Face-smile.svg
As for me, I'm still very much enjoying helping around here, mainly with fixing typos and more generally as a WikiGnome. I had a lot of fun restoring the hyphen to hurdy-gurdy and also ran out of things to write or improve in the article that first brought me here as an editor: Andy Irvine, where you were of such great help in guiding my newbie steps! Other than a couple of new articles I am drafting (slowly!), I am basically flitting from article to article almost aimlessly, since there's always plenty for a gnome to do around here! Face-wink.svg If I were brave enough to bite the bullet, I'd learn how to upload photos about Irvine and his various bands from the internet into Commons—in accordance with the copyright rules—prior to adding them into the article. However, and after some initial reading of said copyright rules, I suspect that such an effort would most likely cause me a great deal of unbearable frustration, which wouldn't be too good for my blood pressure! Face-wink.svg
In any case, thank you very much for making contact, Yintan; welcome back, and please keep in touch. Face-smile.svg
With kind regards for now;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 16:17, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you![edit]

Bubble Tea.png For signing my guestbook (was on a vacation so it went unnoticed). Thank you for the kind words :) Yash! 11:21, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
@Yash!: Dear Yash; Face-smile.svg
Thank you so much! I must try some of this is real life, to learn what it tastes like! Face-wink.svg
I hope you had a great time over the Christmas celebrations?
Please keep well and joyful. Face-wink.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 17:54, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy Holidays![edit]

@Magiciandude: Dear Erick; Face-smile.svg
Thank you very much for thinking of sending me your kind wishes; they're very much appreciated!
I hope you had a great time too, over the Christmas celebrations. Face-smile.svg
I am planning to return to our Latin music project before too long, and thank you once again for taking the initiative of launching this effort! Keep well and joyful. Face-wink.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 17:47, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

CanadaHomeHolidayTree (Cropped).JPG Wilhelmina Will (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Hope your Christmas has been great! :) Herein dwells the greatest dictionary ever composed! (talk) 00:00, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

@Wilhelmina Will: Dear Mimi, Face-smile.svg
How very kind and thoughtful of you! Thank you much and please accept my apologies for delay in returning the present acknowledgement. Yes, it's been splendid and also a good balance between very busy and relaxed; I can only hope that yours was as you'd wished for, and made you very happy. Face-smile.svg
With kindest regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 17:40, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year![edit]

2016 Happy New Year.png

@Pdebee:Thanks for stopping by and leaving me a wonderful message. You are so kind! :) Wish you have a fabulous wonderful new year. HAPPY NEW YEAR! JocelynTalk to me 04:40, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Article Deciphering Problems.[edit]

@Pdebee: Dear Patrick, Face-smile.svg

I am currently trying to fix the Georgi Kornazov article. However, the article has some pretty massive errors and I can't make head or tail out of some parts of it (To quote one of the more nonsensical parts of it: "He is invited as a guest soloist by the Lorient Big band- the Bretagne regional jazz orchestra and he did a several tours with: 1996 in Latvia, 1997 in Vietnam, 1998 in Cambodja and 1999 in French Polynesia. In 1998 he graduated with honors (Golden Medal) the National Academy in Paris, won the third prize as a soloist and a second prize for group with Geoffroy Tamisier’s «OLH Acoustic» sextet at the French National Jazz Competition «La Défense».". ––What? What does that even MEAN? I demand an explanation). After trying to figure it out for quite a while, I've finally decided to ask for some help. Maybe together we can puzzle this article out?

Respectfully Yours,

Maybelle. PigeonOfTheNight (talk) 21:07, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

@PigeonOfTheNight: Dear Maybelle, Face-smile.svg
Thank you for your message. Of course, I'll be glad to assist, although I am about to sign off for today (it's 21:40-ish here).
I'll look at this more closely tomorrow morning and draft a polished version for your review, then ping you when done. It shouldn't be too hard: I can see what the original editor was trying to say and it shouldn't take too long to re-write in fluent English. But if it's frustrating you at the moment, then please consider moving on to another article, at least for now... Face-wink.svg
More tomorrow! ... (Don't work too hard... Face-wink.svg)
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 21:45, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
@Pdebee: Dear Patrick,
Thank you for agreeing to offer your assistance Face-smile.svg. I'll go work on a different article as you suggested, and will have a look at your draft tomorrow (it's only 14:11 where I live, so I'll be able to do some more editing). Thank you again!
And as for you saying that I shouldn't work too hard, what makes you say that? All I'm trying to do is to copy-edit every single article in The Guild's copy-edit list within a space of two hours...XD.
Respectfully Yours,
Maybelle. PigeonOfTheNight (talk) 22:16, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Hi there, many thanks for the barn star - my first! It's fun making lots of small but useful changes. I signed up to the typo team a while back and had spells at attacking the lists, but as I have some time on my hands at the moment, I decided I'd have a good go at it. I do find that listening to classical music is a great accompaniment when I'm editing! Cheers Robevans123 (talk) 21:21, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

@Robevans123: Dear Rob, Face-smile.svg
Thank you for your message. The first one is always extra special and I am delighted to have been the person who awarded it to you. Besides, it was richly deserved because I was (still am!) impressed with your approach and contributions. Please keep up your excellent work, Rob, and thank you once again for all your contributions. Face-wink.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(tated lk)(guestbook) 21:52, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

I may be gone sometime...[edit]

Morning Patrick. I chanced upon "universiti" late last night while fixing something else. I ran a search on it and came up with over a thousand hits! I also did a google search and came up with a much lower number (about 50 after excluded images referenced from commons where the filename includes "universiti". A bit more research revealed that most of the hits arise from a few article names that include the typo, which is then compounded by being in a nav box for all the universities in the same country... I'm going to move the articles in question and edit the related nav boxes. There are also some categories affected (both in wikipedia and on commons). I'm going to attack those as well, but that may take a day or two to go through the "Moving Categories" process. I suspect that, in all, fewer than 100 edits will fix the problem, but they'll be a bit more complicated than the usual typo edits. Don't be surprised if I don't show up on the Works completed page - I'm not running away(!), just working through an interesting problem. Cheers, Rob Robevans123 (talk) 09:17, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

@Robevans123: Dear Rob, Face-smile.svg
Thank you for your message; what an intriguing problem! Clever of you to have traced it all down to the root causes and also full marks for your determination to tackle the whole chain in order to fix it properly.
It's funny what we find when we look into things in detail. Last year, I undertook a similar project of restoring the hyphen to 'hurdy-gurdy', which seemed trivial enough but took me two weeks to complete, as the instrument was mentioned in many articles! I still had to check each instance of the typo, because the name of the instrument was also misspelt in the titles of creative works (paintings, books, films, recordings) which, of course, could not be 'corrected'. I enjoyed it though, and I hope you will feel the same sense of achievement when you're done with 'universiti'. Face-smile.svg
So, Rob, all very best wishes of success in that endeavour and thank you for your commitment to the cause! Face-wink.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 11:04, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you![edit]

Gaufre biscuit.jpg Thanks for helping me out during my first days at Wikipedia! I really appreciate your assistance :).

Happy Editing!

Maybelle. PigeonOfTheNight (talk) 04:21, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

@PigeonOfTheNight: Dear Maybelle, Face-smile.svg
Thank you very much! They're ... (munch-munch) ... mosht ... (munch-munch) ... delishoush!!!... (munch-munch-munch). Face-wink.svg
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 10:58, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

A belated thank you[edit]

Hi Pdebee, Thank you for your New Year wishes on my talk page. I had hoped to respond earlier, but with 5 grandkids to entertain during the said period, my computer was left sulking in the corner! I have had a map drawing frenzy since then, and have just taken breath. Therefore, may I wish you a Happy New Year in return, and I like the sentiments expressed in your Kindness banner. Summerdrought (talk) 01:06, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Kate & Anna[edit]

I have no problem with using the ampersand in the article title, or in giving their name as a recording unit - clearly, to some extent they seem to have used the ampersand as a stylistic device professionally. But, it is also perfectly acceptable - mutliple reliable sources will confirm this - to refer to them as two people, where using the word "and" is appropriate. Thus, it is not necessary - indeed, is inappropriate - to always refer to them using the ampersand. Some flexibility and discretion would be helpful. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:27, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

@Ghmyrtle: Dear Ghmyrtle,
Thank you very much for your comment and interest in my efforts. I fully agree with you and, in fact, there were a few articles where the sisters were mentioned side by side outside of the context of their entity as a duo and, in such rare cases, I did indeed leave the 'and' instead of replacing it with an ampersand. But I am sure you would not have intervened if you hadn't concluded that I had been somewhat overzealous. I will therefore look again but would propose that you go ahead and revert some of the cases where you felt that I had lacked flexibility and discretion, as you say; I am as fallible as the next man, especially when engaged in such a mind-numbing task. Face-wink.svg However, once I got started, I felt our encyclopedia needed to be consistent when they were referred to as a recording duo, hence the large number of articles involved in this change. In any case, thank you once again for your interest in my efforts, and thank you also for your own contributions to our encyclopedia.
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 10:49, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
That's fine, thanks. I won't make a point of looking through your edits, but if I come across any where I think you may have been over-zealous, I'll bear your comments in mind. Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:03, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
@Ghmyrtle: Dear Ghmyrtle,
Thank you for your closing comment. I will go through my edits again today and revert myself where appropriate, as per your earlier advice; thanks once again. With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 11:18, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @Ghmyrtle: Dear Ghmyrtle,
Yes check.svg Done - Found eleven cases, now reverted to 'and' or re-worded. Thanks again for your advice, which I will keep in mind as I complete this task. With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 12:53, 8 February 2016 (UTC)