User talk:Pedant/2008-03-30

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Please leave messages related to specific articles on those articles 'discuss' pages, rather than here, and place a link to the article on this page.

Hey, want to do a quick task I can't do right now? [these links point to a disambiguation page], if you'd like to, make them point at the appropriate article. Do one, none, or many. Thanks

Captions should be more than just complete sentences.
Pedant is a Most Excellent Grognard, and blithely scribbles in the margins of an old copy of the Wikipedia Vest Pocket Book.


Helpful links[edit]

A synopsis of Wikipedia policies can be useful. If you have a problem, it helps to know what the relevant policy is. A gentle introduction to 'why we have rules when even the rules can be edited by anybody' can be found at Pillars of the Community.

Don't let 'problems' with other editors become disputes. Other editors are working on the same article you are for a reason... you have something in common! Instead of an edit war, try collaboration and maybe you will find some valuable help in improving the article. Those other editors are your colleagues, they deserve the same respect and assistance as you do.


Archived Talk[edit]

Archive 1 2004-11-19/Archive 2 2004-11-24/Archive 3 2005-01-14/Archive 4 2005-02-27/Archive 5 2006-03-22/Archive 6 2006-08-19/Archive 7 2006-08-19/Archive 8 2007-06-07

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Juxtaposition of user boxes[edit]

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Messages:[edit]

Fair use rationale for Image:Bleep_lg.jpg[edit]

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Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Bleep_lg.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. MER-C 06:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

User talk:SlimVirgin[edit]

Please don't. This has been discussed already, including centrally. --John 19:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Please spend some time reading this, this, and this. ElinorD (talk) 19:55, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Shepherd and Deniro from Taxi Driver.png)[edit]

Nuvola apps important blue.svg Thanks for uploading Image:Shepherd and Deniro from Taxi Driver.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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The Chain Barnstar of Recognition[edit]

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For making a difference! This Barnstar isn't free, this is a chain barnstar, as payment please give this star to at least 3-5 others with 500+ edits but no barnstar. So that everyone who deserves one will get one. Hpfan9374 01:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The Chain Barnstar of Merit[edit]

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For your hard work! This Barnstar isn't free, this is a chain barnstar, as payment please give this star to at least 4 others with 1500+ edits but no barnstar or has few barnstars. So that everyone who deserves one will get one. Hpfan9374 01:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The Chain Barnstar of Diligence[edit]

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For shaping Wikipedia! This Barnstar isn't free, this is a chain barnstar, as payment please give this star to at least 3 others with 2500+ edits but no barnstar or has few barnstars. So that everyone who deserves one will get one. Hpfan9374 01:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The Wikipedian's Chain Barnstar of Honour[edit]

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For building Wikipedia! This Barnstar isn't free, this is a chain barnstar, as payment please give this star to at least 2 others with 5000+ edits but no barnstar or has few barnstars. So that everyone who deserves one will get one. Hpfan9374 01:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

WHINSEC[edit]

I see you have been writing on my talk page. Specifically speaking about my attempts to edit. What I'm trying to do is come up with neutral information which would be acceptable without being immediatly removed. I'm taking your advise and learning how to better "edit" on the site. Thanks for the advise. I am also taking suggestions given to me by others as to what would be good to be posted on the site and attempting to build consensus. My concerns are the fact that even very basic neutral information like what courses are offered and what the school's policy is on visiting them and gaining access to the school are deemed "whitewash" and "promotion of the school" and are immediately removed. Do you believe that type of information to be anything other than neutral? case? ChaplainSvendsen 19:25, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I also ask that you do not make userpages for other users as you did with the above user. I have deleted the user page. If you have concerns with COI take it to the appropriate venues but do not unilaterally decide to create someones userpage "warning" other users about them.--Jersey Devil 00:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
You are completely out of line in deleting the page. It does not fit under the criteria for speedy deletion. User:Pedant 06:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Filmmaking Announcement[edit]

A PROPOSED PROJECT MERGER with WikiProject Films is under consideration. All opinions and questions are strongly encouraged! Girolamo Savonarola 01:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I replied[edit]

Hello, I replied here. Thanks. ~a (usertalkcontribs) 18:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

RfA header removal[edit]

Well, I reverted your edit because consensus had not been reached for individual headers to be included in RfAs, and inclusions in the {{rfa}} template are extensively discussed on RfA's talk page (more extensively than other talk pages), and because dividing the sections of Discussion into support/oppose/neutral sections would stuff-up the Table of Contents on the main RfA page. This idea has been rejected several times in the past I would imagine, as it seems to me something that encourages users to think that RfA isn't a vote. I'm not going to start that matter right now, though. My apologies if you were offended by the revert, or my edit summary. Looking forward to corresponding in the future, Sebi [talk] 09:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Prod on 20-20-20-20 club[edit]

I've removed the re-added prod...WP:PROD is only used for uncontested deletions, and removing the prod is considered to be contesting it. If you still wish to see the article deleted, send it over to WP:AFD. I would suggest waiting for a few days, however. Give the merge a chance to happen. --UsaSatsui 19:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Olga Karavaeva[edit]

On 17 Sept 2007, the following note was left on my talk page (when you were apparently not able to sign in, so under an IP address):

  • I find no evidence that such an article ever existed. There is no deleted edit for the article name as provided. Perhaps it could be found under the username of the article creator. Do you have this information?
  • Relevant guidelines and policies to be aware of may include:
  • BTW, I don't think I still fall under the "new" admin category, as I've been an admin for over a year. But, thanks for the congrats.

ERcheck (talk) 12:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

The article had one contributor - the original creator. It was deleted three times under speedy deletion criteria A3 (containing only the title), A7 (notability), and G12 (copyvio). The first deleted version only contained only the subject's name (article title) The second deleted version was the same as the copyvio deleted version (final version), which is identical to the bio page currently on the subject's own website. — ERcheck (talk) 23:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

help desk[edit]

I replied to your question at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Deleted_image.2C_public_domain.2C_no_issues.2C_but_gone. ssepp(talk) 22:50, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Controversial works of art[edit]

I have nominated Category:Controversial works of art (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. BencherliteTalk 20:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Tagged Image File Format[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Tagged Image File Format, you will be blocked from editing. Sam Blacketer 21:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, false alarm and you're doing nothing wrong. My bad. Sam Blacketer 21:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

One Righteous Dude[edit]

You are so human. More love to you. Myspacebarsucks. LOL. Is there a barnstar for Honesty? [1] Tony0937 (talk) 02:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:George Gray Points Out Glenn's Bald Spot.jpg)[edit]

Nuvola apps important blue.svg Thanks for uploading Image:George Gray Points Out Glenn's Bald Spot.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot (talk) 20:19, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Yep it was orphaned by vandalism to the caption in the article it's referenced by. Fixed now so it should be good. Thanks, bot. User:Pedant (talk) 23:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Quick question[edit]

Hey, you recently added some stuff to the Ronald McDonald article. Do you have a source for the added material? Thanks. ~a (usertalkcontribs) 23:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

answered on your page. User:Pedant (talk)


Non-free use disputed for Image:Grizzly_SierraMag_July2005.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading Image:Grizzly_SierraMag_July2005.jpg. Unfortunately, I think that you have not provided a proper rationale for using this image under "fair use". Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. Note that the image description page must include the exact name or a link to each article the image is used in and a separate rationale for each one. (If a link is used, automated processes may improperly add the related tag to the image. Please change the fair use template to refer to the exact name, if you see this warning.)

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted after seven days according to our Criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Mangostar (talk) 22:17, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Grizzly SierraMag July2005.jpg)[edit]

Nuvola apps important blue.svg Thanks for uploading Image:Grizzly SierraMag July2005.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot (talk) 03:21, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:George Gray Points Out Glenn's Bald Spot.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:George Gray Points Out Glenn's Bald Spot.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. After Midnight 0001 16:03, 22 December 2007 (UTC)


WikiProject Awards Role Call[edit]

WikiProject Awards Rolecall
To check whether all of our members are still interested, we have blanked the members list, if you still wish to take part please add your name back on the list. Please wait until the 4th January to re-add your name.

// F9T 19:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Axe product image.jpg)[edit]

Nuvola apps important blue.svg Thanks for uploading Image:Axe product image.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 22:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Image:October 1-8 2006 Keep Space for Peace Week poster.png[edit]

Hi, regarding the permission for the above image: One way of ensuring I (or another misguided editor) does not mess up your permission is to send it to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. A ticketnumber will then be assigned & the permission will be locked away. Kind regards, 193.95.170.99 (talk) 16:47, 28 January 2008 (UTC) (User:Deadstar not logged on)

bias[edit]


 &#151; Xiutwel ♫☺♥♪ (speech has the power to bind the absolute) 22:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Martin Scorsese cameo Taxi Driver.png[edit]

Thank you for uploading Image:Martin Scorsese cameo Taxi Driver.png. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image under "fair use" may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies for fair use. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a fair use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the fair use policy require both a copyright tag and a fair use rationale.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it might be deleted by adminstrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 15:30, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Films coordinator elections[edit]

The WikiProject Films coordinator selection process is starting. We are aiming to elect five coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by March 28! Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 09:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Response[edit]

I didn't see all the additions to the Council on Foreign Relations article but I know that they were not sourced and considering that IPs and new users have frequently added incorrect information to that list I decided to revert. Regarding your other comment I am a member of Category:Wikipedia administrators open to recall and always have been so you are free to argue for my removal of Wikipedia Administrator status if you wish.--Jersey Devil (talk) 02:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Your user page[edit]

Hello. I'd like to let you know that there may be some problems with your user page: Please read this for specific points regarding what is not allowed on user pages. You may want to consider removing your "Funny" section, as it may violate one or more of these points. It could be removed by another editor at some point or become a reason for all or parts of your user page to be deteled. Just letting you know. Thanks. Okiefromokla questions? 03:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)