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Some help...

Hi Peridon! Could you please have a look at Shen.gupta (talk · contribs)? The guy is continuously creating pages about himself. Thanks and regards, Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 10:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hey, thanks for your concern. cheers :) ansuman (talk) 21:54, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

OMG, it's a tough task. I won't tag any page for anything if I am not sure :D thanks a ton for the assistance. I think I need to go through all the category again.-ansuman (talk) 12:35, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
I have doubt about htis page Germany in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest. I think the content should be merged to an another article. What you think ?? Is the article title appropriate ?? -ansuman (talk) 12:35, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Personally, I don't think it's worth much - except for that lovely apparent non-sequitur about the rumours about Germany in the Junior in 2008 being caused by San Marino appearing in the Eurovision itself. I might be missing something there... On the other hand, Beeblebrox has been doing work on it, and he wouldn't if there was no case for it. You could have a word with him and ask what he sees in it that you (and I) don't. Don't put it quite like that; say you are trying to learn and understand, and are puzzled. Peridon (talk) 13:42, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Page deleted

Hi Peridon, I created a page yesterday called Keith Woollard. I understand that you believed the content to be a breach of copyright. I had checked with Dr Woollard about using the write up from his website in the wikipedia page prior to creating the page but I did not read the section regarding 'donating copyright material'. In order to avoid this process I was planning on rewording the article. Other than those already mentioned were there any other problems with the page?

Elwoo4 (talk) 06:41, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

OK. It's often best to rewrite. For other concerns, start off with WP:BIO and WP:RS. It's a sad fact that it is sometimes easier to show the notability of a 20 year old rapper than that of a distinguished medical man. (Unless the latter has been struck off in a somewhat spectacular manner...) It might be an idea to get something more about the campaign and the publications - list the best (but not all if there are loads, but say it's a selection). That's best in terms of being noticed, not in terms of quality of content. Put the draft up on a subpage of your userpage like User:Elwoo4/DRAFT (just click it), and when it's ready (you think...), ask for advice and an opinion. Most admins and regular editors are willing to do this. If you find a grumpy one, try another. Peridon (talk) 11:00, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

One Question

would you please tell me what (-12),(+999),(+789) means in "My Watchlist".Thanks... Preetam040 (talk) 14:29, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

It's how many bytes have been added or removed in the edit shown as the latest. In the History thing on articles, it gives the total bytes present at the end of each edit, but the watchlist gives you a 'what happened'. Peridon (talk) 18:13, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
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National Corporate Research Ltd. Deleted

Hi Peridon,

I see that you've deleted the page National Corporate Research Ltd. I understand that it might seem like an advertisement or promoting the company. However, as I've explained in the appeal that it is just a page with the company info and history. I would like to get more information on why the page is deleted or how can I edit it to make it not look like an advertisement. Please advise. thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttan.wqt (talk • contribs) 14:40, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

It's all found in WP:CORP for the significance you should show, WP:SPAM for how not to do it, WP:NPOV for the attitude to take, and WP:RS for how to reference. Basically, avoid anything that suggests 'written by' (we, our), anything like 'excellent', 'solutions' and 'offerings' of any sort, and no 'For more info look at...'. For refs, not the company site, press releases (PRWire and so on, too), no blogs, forums, wikis (including us), profiles, directories and the likes of AboutUs and LinkedIn. Good press coverage (not the Chiggerville and Dandertown Retriever and Mercury...) is OK - but not 'interviews' where the CEO repeats what the PR Dept wrote in answer to questions they supplied in the first place. You know what I mean... BTW please sign talk page posts with ~~~~. If it's not nowikied like I did there, it will put your name and a datestamp like this: Peridon (talk) 15:04, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Request for mediation rejected

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IEEE Page Deletion

Dear Peridon,

You have taken the action of deleting the IEEE Day page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_Day. The provided explanation was:

(G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.facebook.com/IEEEDay?sk=info)

I wish to clarify that the facebook page mentioned talks about exactly the same topic and is advertising it. In fact the person who worked on the wiki and the facebook page is the one and the same. Therefore, I am asking you to reconsider the decision since no copyright infringement is present.

Thank you

195.110.143.230 (talk) 19:56, 6 October 2011 (UTC)Ali El-Mousa IEEE R8 Vice Chair Member Activities a.elmousa@ieee.org

Sorry, but the text is published there. It doesn't matter who wrote it, it IS copyright. Please see WP:COPYVIO. That explains it better than I could at the moment, and tells you how the copyright could be licensed for use here. However, you say "the same topic and is advertising it". Oh dear. I'm sorry, but Wikipedia is not for advertising. Please see WP:SPAM. It doesn't matter whether it's a multi-national corporation, an online herbal 'Viagra' seller, a charity or a non-profit (or even a prophet - we get them at times). Promotion is out. Wording like "IEEE and its members inspire a global community to innovate for a better tomorrow through its highly cited publications," etc, is hardly in compliance with WP:NPOV. Had there been no copyvio problem, it would have gone for being promotional. Sorry. You're a genuine organisation (unlike the herbal 'Viagra' sellers usually are). The thing is, if we let one promote sonething, how do we stop the flood? You might consider doing an article about the annual day, but make sure you include good independent coverage in the references to show it's significant, and follow WP:NPOV. Make it about the Day as a general thing, not 'hey lads and lasses, it's two weeks to the next one - got your tickets yet?' stuff. I'm not guaranteeing it'll be accepted. (I'm not even guaranteeing the sun will come up tomorrow, the way the weathers been here today...) Peridon (talk) 20:14, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

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Copyright problems with Mysorean Army

Sir I requested the author of that article. He sends me a free licence under GNU Free Documentation licence. Is it usefull sir?--Sridhar100000 (talk) 13:36, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

No. sorry. It has to be him that sends it to us. Look at WP:COPYVIO where it will tell you what needs to be done. If it isn't clear to you, I'd suggest asking User:Moonriddengirl if she will help. She's one of our top people on copyright stuff. Peridon (talk) 13:45, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
This is for your guidance and kindness, keep up the good work. Thank You. :) aηsuмaη ༽Ϟ 14:44, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

ADFM

Hey, Peridon! Can you please look over this article ADFM, also see the Talk:ADFM. The creator of this article demands the article is not a spam or advertisement, and wants me to remove the speedy deletion tag. what I suppose to do ?? Please get back to me. And tell me one thing, once I tag an article under what condition/situation I can remove or change the Tag ? -aηsuмaη ༽Ϟ 16:13, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

I thought I posted an answer, but it's vanished. You may remove or change any CSD or PROD tag you have set at any time, but it's best to say why in the edit summary. As to the article, I thought it wasn't unambiguous spam, and declined - then prodded it as a non-notable position. I've left a note saying to show notability if they can with reliable refs. (Got interrupted while typing this, sorry.) Thanks for the barnstar. :) Peridon (talk) 17:50, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Cornelia Guest

I see that you deleted this under A7, I am just wondering if it should have been deleted (it was created by an ip user, which would have ment 2005 or before and there are a large number of links to it), if you still think that it should have been deleted, I will go and remove all the incoming links to it. L888Y5 (talk) 20:42, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

I can't see anything particularly notable about her - here's the main part of what it said: "She was born on November 28, 1963 to Lucy Douglas Cochrane and Winston Frederick Churchill Guest. Upon her coming out, in 1982, she was named "Deb of the Decade" is considered one of the 20th century's greatest debutantes.[1] She at one time dated Sylvester Stallone. She has written a book, The Debutante's Guide to Life [2]" It also says she's an actress and equestrian, without giving any detail. What do you think? If you think it should be there because of the links, I'll happily put it back. Peridon (talk) 22:01, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Ionic weapons

Regarding the article you deleted on the 'theory of ionic weapons' - I believe that part of the reason Ishmael-mahmood is so upset is that, when you deleted the article, you described it as a 'Blatant hoax'.

It may be OR, and it may not even be factually correct OR, but I believe it is quite clearly not a hoax.

A hoax is knowingly false, created either with the deliberate intent to either deceive or amuse. To describe something posted on Wikipedia as a hoax is, effectively, to accuse the person who posted it as having acted in bad faith.

To resolve this peacefully, I suggest that you apologize for having chosen the wrong reason for deletion, and then explain to him about WP:NOR. DS (talk) 03:47, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

I could find no trace of the book that the article was allegedly based on either at Amazon or lulu, or at Google as was stated in the article, and know that the technology required for the weapons is currently (and for quite a long time, I would think) even less practically usable for a portable weapon than were the more SF parts of the Reagan 'Star Wars' programme, so in good faith I took it to be a hoax. The author has declared himself to be 15 Ismail mahmood, and another article involving this alleged book was deleted as a hoax - see User talk:slakr for the deleter's reply to the author's complaint. The author has made no comment to me directly, nor has he responded to my comment at the Mediation request that if he could provide sources, I would restore the page. If there is any evidence for the existence of this book (as a publication. not as a draft), at the time of the article appearing, I would be happy to apologise and explain OR. As it is, I am not yet convinced that I made the wrong decision and slakr has drawn the author's attention to WP:OR. Peridon (talk) 12:13, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

ADFM

You said that the Article,ADFM is encouraging others to join in.But my point of view is very different from yours.That is very hard,because it is like being a administrator in English Wikipedia.A person who wishes to become a ADFM must have a experience of atleast 25 years in the financial department.The full marks in a examination is 150.To pass,one must get over 135.After that,if a Deputy FNCO wishes,he may cancel out the candidate's name.And after that,if you succeed,you will be called for interview.Again,lots of people are cancelled out and therefore,only 2 succeeds. If you think that I am lying,you may ask a Eastern Railway official. Sorry if I was rude. If you can,please post your reply on my talk page.Dipankan001 (talk) 05:57, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Florid British English

This might be because of differences between Brit English and Indian English usage. I find from both personal experience and from working here that Indian English tends to be rather more florid than Brit English (with the exception of the utterances of Brit English speaking estate agents and other marketing departments, who achieve near incomprehensibility at times in their passion to allow you to purchase something...). Peridon (talk) 17:00, 7 October 2011 (UTC) (from User talk:Dipankan001)

You forgot Sir Humphrey, didn't you? :)

When I have time and can be bothered enough, I'll put forward ADFM for AfD.

Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 14:39, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Remember WP:BEFORE... Peridon (talk) 15:24, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Have read. There wouldn't have been any time or bother if it weren't for that... Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 15:52, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ADFM

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ADFM. As a contributor to the article, you might have interest in it. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 16:06, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

User:Ebrahimi-amir

Since you were involved in User:Ebrahimi-amir's unblock, please note that this user is still engaged in WP:Disruption and edit-warring all over the place. Keep in mind that this user has been blocked indefinitely for similar behavior, before you and another admin decided to give him a second chance the sole condition that he'd behave.[1] You guys warned him that if similar behavior occurs, he will be blocked again. Please just look at his recent editing history, it's blind revert after blind revert, some without even an edit-summary. For example just look at this revert [2], he is is removing sourced content, replacing it with WP:OR. This is borderline vandalism. I'm only bringing this here, because neither you nor Atama, who reversed this user's indefinite block, have followed up on this case, and see how is this user is behaving now. This is very disappointing. Kurdo777 (talk) 22:47, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance

Said it all in the header. Pawelmichal (talk) 09:27, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Pierre Lewis

Hello Peridon. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Pierre Lewis, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Having a chart-topping single is a credible assertion of importance. Notability, maybe not, but that's for AfD. Thank you. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:14, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

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Please have a look over this

Hey,Peridon,nice to talk with you after a long time.Please look over the article:Kairi ka Do Pyaza.Is Wikipedia a place to hold all the recipies of different foods?And I don't think it is a encyclopedic content.Should I nominate it for speedy deletion? Dipankan001 (talk) 14:40, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Can't think of a speedy category that would fit. Basically, it needs the recipe removed with a note in the summary - and possibly on the talk page - about WP:NOTHOWTO. Of course, if you could find some more referencing, that would be nice... Oh, yes - just found the recipe is a copyvio of the one ref, and the first sentence is a bit close. Recipe must go for the two reasons. The dish could be notable enough - not my area of cuisine, though. Over to you. Peridon (talk) 15:03, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: failed unblocks

I just keep patting myself on the back for having not deleted the Main Page or ANI (yet). Danger (talk) 16:11, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

User boxes herded?

Evenin' Evenin',
The following...
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Should produce...

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This user contributes using Mozilla Firefox.
This user plays his music in the treble clef.
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Robert A. Heinlein
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This user enjoys heavy metal music.
This user enjoys optical illusions, especially the impossible constructions of M.C. Escher.
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This user requests that you do not smoke while viewing this page.
kid This user may grow old, but does not intend to grow up.
This user is an administrator on the English Wikipedia (verify).
This user watches over Wikipedia with the help of Twinkle!
This user enjoys the dinners at Unseen University
thief Beware: This user will nick userboxes from anywhere.
This user is a mammal.
The only throne this user has sat on was made of porcelain.
This user was born. (according to his mother who was allegedly there at the time)
socialThis user has never Instant Messaged using anything and doesn't intend to. He also doesn't tweet, flicker, blog, digg or any similar things. He is considering Facing the Book - but won't be putting a link here if he does.

Best wishes! SpitfireTally-ho! 20:02, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

It's a Swedish

You might be right, this does seem familiar - but I'm in the same boat, nothing rings a bell. I might dig around later this morning, or we might ask at AN. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 13:11, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

While I dealt with some of Toug's unblock requests, I am not familiar enough with the specifics of the case to make any definitive statements. Although, my AGF invocation notwithstanding, it could also be seen as another attempt to prove a point by gaming the username policy. Daniel Case (talk) 15:35, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

speedy deletion of Fuel Flowers

Hi Peridon - I am the author of the original Fuel Flowers stub, as well as the original artist's statement regarding Fuel Flowers that was quoted from the creative spaces external site. I would be happy to donate this copyrighted material to Wikipedia so that the entry can remain in place. Can you tell me, will I need to re-create the entry from scratch with the copyrighted material approved first, or can the entry be un-deleted? Dubbothedevo (talk) 13:28, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

If you can come up with some better references, I can undelete it. The introuble and mountalexander refs were tagged as not containing the info they were supposed to reference, and the longexposure refs are at blogspot, and therefore considered unreliable. You need to look at WP:RS to see what are and are not considered reliable independent references. If these references are not to be found, there's not much point in restoring the article. If I restore it now, it would be deleted again by someone as copyvio, and there's no point in going through the rigmarole of CC licensing if the article wouldn't be viable anyway. (Not quite Catch 22 - finding good refs breaks the circle...) Peridon (talk) 13:38, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

contested deletion of Arthritis Society

Please restore this article. I had worded the first sentence appropriately and the second sentence was merely a descriptive line about the Society and its many branches. I'd be happy to reword the second line as necessary. I mentioned in the talk page that there was "more to come soon".

The Arthritis Society is one of the world's major health organizations and has contributed a large amount of research to the study of arthritis. Facts707 (talk) 10:19, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

I've moved it to User:Facts707/Arthritis Society. Any sentence that matches the Society's site must be changed. Copyright covers sentences as well as paragraphs - but not individual words per se, or the information contained in the sentences. Where there is 'more to come', it's best to work in userspace. There, you can escape some of the CSD tagging - except copyvio, attack and spam. Put DRAFT at the top, but keep well away from other people's or place's wording. Close following can be a copyvio too. You will need to find independent references, don't forget. Peridon (talk) 10:40, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
I've removed the sentence that appears to be a copyright violation from the userspace draft as we can't have a copyright violation present even in user space. Dpmuk (talk) 10:47, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
OK, I will work on it until it is a full article with lots of refs. thanks - Facts707 (talk) 01:26, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Mouse

If anyone has been reading my recent edit summaries (or listening outside my window), can I inform them that the mouse has thrown up a load of fluff and now seems healthy again. 5 button mice are hard to get, so I am very glad. Peridon (talk) 18:38, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

A beer for you

Thankyou for participating in my request for adminship. Now I've got lots of extra buttons to try and avoid pressing by mistake... Redrose64 (talk) 15:48, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Userbox herding

I've taken the liberty. What do you think? It's just a quick method, but I thought I'd give it a shot. :p No userboxes were harmed. Swarm 22:15, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

"Hmmm," he hmmmed. Two problems. One is that I'm actually planning to put one or two back into Non Boxy Things as I don't think they work as boxes. They're too long. You wouldn't know that, of course. (If I get a bit confused here, it's 'cos I'm listening to a pop song being sung in Cambodian, and I can't think of the original English lyrics...) (Think it's 'Bang Bang'.) (Yes, it was.) The other problem is the width. I have a thing about having to scroll sideways. I don't mind going up and down, as in books or a pad or exercise book I'm writing in, but I don't like wider than screen internet. Seems to be something going on about userboxes - you and Spitfire have tried to sort mine, and KillerChihuahua has stacked my friend Yopienso's up neatly. I'll dismantle or store the ones I don't think work and see what happens then. Thanks for trying, anyway. Time out from RfA? Peridon (talk) 22:48, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
-Facepalm- that I didn't see Spitfire do pretty much the exact same thing above. Anyway, just for the sake of clarity, the first problem is that some of the userboxes are too long (i.e. they don't fit in well with the others), and the second problem is that four userboxes across are too wide for your screen? Well, for the first problem, removing the long ones is really the only option, but for the second problem, how about three across? Would that work?
This place is reserved for a userbox.
This place is reserved for a userbox.
This place is reserved for a userbox.
This place is reserved for a userbox.
This place is reserved for a userbox.
This place is reserved for a userbox.
Or are you looking for something like Yopienso's? →
Or do you really just not care that much and want me to go away?
Anyway, yep, RfA break. I need something to do when I'm not checking it every 15 minutes. :P Swarm 00:37, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Owenish and ellenish

...Thank you. S*T*A*R*B*O*X (Drop a line!) 21:15, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Done it again too. I'll protect it if it comes up again. Peridon (talk) 21:18, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Just seen your userpage. Like it. 8-) Peridon (talk) 21:28, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

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Formby

For your pleasure, please see my recent amendment to the Talk page for Formby [3] related to its status as a Dormitory Town. Koncorde (talk) 21:10, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Primarni is the one pushing for commuter. I think you've misread my opening statement :) I agree wholly with your assessment as a Dormitory town (and the article agrees). Also I agree with the stats. They're not overly clear. Koncorde (talk) 21:47, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Commuter and dormitory are the same, surely. If you sleep there but don't work there, you commute. (Unless you travel all over, like me... I get into commuter traffic in many places.) It's suburb I'm opposed to. Peridon (talk) 22:04, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, you know what, I read one thing and thought another. Doh! Sorry about that confusion, my fault. Koncorde (talk) 22:17, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Why not just call it an Exurb? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 22:25, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

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Deletion of air bronchograms page?

Wondering why the air bronchograms page was deleted. There is an active reference to it from the chest radiography page.

Ciarán Anthony DellaFera, BSG (talk) 16:39, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, I deleted Air bronchogram, which consisted entirely of a redirect to Air bronchogram. (No kidding.) Fastily deleted Air bronchogram sign, which was a redirect to air bronchogram. There doesn't seem to have been an article at any point. Peridon (talk) 18:44, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Understood. I removed the obsolete reference on the chest radiography page.

Ciarán Anthony DellaFera, BSG (talk) 20:20, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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Luzviminda Travel and Tours

With ref to your deletion of Luzviminda Travel and Tours a few minutes ago... the author, Liciniolopez (talk · contribs), has also been repeatedly adding a link on another article - Cebu Institute of Medicine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). I've warned about 3RR and asked them to discuss it on the article talk page - and, they have at least tried to do that. However, they keep adding the link.

Unfortunately, I just reverted a third time and thus, actually broke 3RR myself. My bad.

So... please can you check on Cebu Institute of Medicine, and... I'm not sure if action is needed yet; I suppose it could be semi'd, or possibly that user (having now added the link 5 times) might unfortunately need a short block.

Apologies once more for breaching 3RR's line myself with a 3rd revert; I didn't think I'd made 3, I thought it was just two (there's about 2 or 3 others from the Xlinkbot).  Chzz  ►  09:35, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

You haven't, actually. You've reverted three times that I can see. It's the fourth that's the killer. Three is allowed - I've made three myself a few times - but can be classed as edit warring. I don't think that applies here, as the bot had already removed the link once. This suggests to me that weebly is on a blacklist. I'm giving them a warning - I think they are acting in good faith (just as you were - isn't faith a problem?). I don't really understand this American originated fraternity stuff - I am assuming this is one of those usually Greek lettered things. Couldn't make out from the site. I've warned about 3RR but not blocked as it's his/her first day. I have suggested that this is contingent on stopping adding the link, and taking part in a discussion on the talk page. Peridon (talk) 10:06, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Great, thanks. I also know nothing about this frat stuff, so asked for help/input on the EL noticeboard. At least the user is trying to discuss it, so hopefully it can be discussed and sorted out. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  10:55, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
P.S. It has become apparent that there is a COI aspect, too; "we are presently moving the organization [web]site" [4]  Chzz  ►  11:14, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Well, I didn't really expect him/her to be totally unconnected... I don't mind, so long people don't spam and do stick to NPOV. Peridon (talk) 11:38, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Peridon. You have new messages at Abhishek191288's talk page.
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— Abhishek  Talk 13:10, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Just a question. Am I really unworthy of the rollback tool? I accept and agree to the reason my rollback was revoked. But the revoking admin has denied granting it again recently. All I was doing on India is reverting massive edits (which had no consensus. PS: there are on-going discussions on the talk page regarding restructuring the article) by a POV user who is now indeffed. — Abhishek  Talk 13:54, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Well, rollback is really for vandalism rather than content disputes. If someone decides to lie to us about the size of his private parts in an article about the Shri Samiwotsit Temple in Kurripore (built in 1549), that is vandalism. If someone adds to the article that it was built by Wayne Shurtarz for his mother Doreen, that is vandalism. But if it's a question of was it Sultan Ramakrishna or his brother Prince Agnishiva who built it, that's content dispute and not for rollback. I'm not sure which is worse (content argument-wise), India or Armenia. Both sides in each are usually totally correct and well sourced. To be quite honest, I only used rollback a few times and quite often just did it manually. The admin who declined may think you don't actually need it if you're more involved with content matters than with blatant vandalism, The content matters might be insidious vandalism - but rollback is for the blatant stuff that even I would recognise in an article about some (to me) totally obscure saint which dealt with his philosophy in too much detail. Get a load of real vandalism sorted, and try again then. This is off the top of my head - I've not looked into your editing. Someone else will probably comment on this - lots of people seem to read this page. Peridon (talk) 17:45, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
No ... nobody else reads your talkpage :-P I took a brief glance at some of Abishek's recent editing - I do see edit-warring, they justifying it due to the other party being a POV-pusher (apparently the other party got blocked, but that does not matter). When I read Abishek's originl post, it's clear that they do not understand the purpose of Rollback whatsoever, and it's a powerful enough little tool when it's not understood. Rollback should only be in the hands of someone who understands WP:DR processes, and understands the proper use of the tool (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:51, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Questions about submission of my article

Hi!

I got your message concerning Recycle Your Media so I'll add references as you told me. Just I also submitted the same article for revision this morning, so i created a new page called Recycle Your Media and instead of choosing the option of publishing immediately, I chose to get a review before. Is it going to be a problem? There won't be two same pages for this company?

Thank you! — Preceding Jennifer280605 comment added by Jennifer280605 (talk • contribs) 21:26, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Errr, dunno.... Not come across it, so far as I can remember (which after a large chilli isn't very far...). I'd concentrate on the mainspace one, and get the refs into it. If anyone tries to move the other one, it won't go, so just in case, put a note on its talk page. Whatever gets done here can be undid. I'll look in again in the morning (my morning - trouble with this place is trying to adapt to too many different clocks at once). Peridon (talk) 21:56, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Dr. Saleh Alnabit

You previously responded to my speedy delete on this one - it came back and I temped it for copyvio again as it contained much of the same copy and paste stuff or close paraphrasing. The creating editor appears to have a COI due to his user name: User talk:GSDPqatar. Acabashi (talk) 11:16, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

And in their edits... Well spotted. It's been around for some time, too. I've blocked as an organisation name. Peridon (talk) 13:07, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

United Aluminium

Hi, you have speedy deleted the page i created under the name of 'Lumenal'. I just wondered why this was, as I was in the process of contesting it and by the time i returned it had been deleted. It is a credible business and was not promoting any of its products, just stating what the company is and does. I'm new to editing/creating Wikipedia pages so please accept my apologies if I have done this incorrectly, I am trying my best to understand the coding used. Also, only signed up today so if I don't follow correct protocol I'm sorry, it's not through rudeness, just lack of experience.

'13:33, 25 October 2011 Peridon (talk | contribs) deleted "Lumenal" ‎ (A7: Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject) ' — Preceding unsigned comment added by United Aluminium (talk • contribs)


United Aluminium 15:07, 25 October 2011 (GMT)

OK. First thing to understand is that this is an encyclopaedia, not a sort of directory. Anyone (well, barring obvious cases...) can get on AboutUs etc. Not here. Yes, anyone who isn't blocked or banned may edit Wikipedia. But there are policies. Two of them are WP:SPAM and WP:NPOV. Guess what the first one is about? The second one is neutral point of view. If you look at your text, you will, I hope, see why I deleted it. That sort of stuff looks great in a brochure (but how many readers of brochures actually believe it?), but here it is equivalent to standing outside the Vatican with a big drum and a banner saying 'Martin Luther Rules OK!!!!!'. Your intention may not have been to promote - but the result READ like promotion, and that's what counts. I will quote here: "Lumenal ensure that you are completely happy with your experience, taking the time to talk to all clients". Yes, well.... If you see another article with similar, please put {{db-spam}} at the top (and copy the warning note onto the offender's talk page). The other main difference between us and LinkedIn (etc) is that we are rather awkward and insist on a thing called notability. This isn't of necessity the same word as in the dictionary. We mean that there has been coverage in reliable independent sources WP:RS. These sources should be used to prove that your subject meets WP:CORP. Don't worry about coding - I don't understand half of it. Read these policies and see if you can find the refs. No refs in the case of a current entity = no article. And leave the contact details out - they are definitely not allowed. If you have another go, do it at User:United Aluminium/DRAFT - just click that and you'll be able to put it together in your userspace with less attention from the patrollers. Especially if you head it DRAFT with three ' at each end. Ask for advice. Most admins or regular editors are willing to help if asked. I would also seriously advise you to request a change of username, as yours appears to represent an organisation (Lumenal's parent, even) - see WP:USERNAME. If you do decide to redo the article, change your name. Peridon (talk) 14:57, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

CSD Tags

Hi! Thanks for tagging Grant Smith Law Practice Ltd. for speedy deletion. Just a small point - you tagged it as {{db-bio}}, which is for deletion of articles about non-notable people. The tag you needed here was {{db-inc}}. Fairly minor issue, but important to get correct otherwise the explanatory text in the tag gets a bit confusing.

For a full list of the tags, go to WP:CSD#A7. Thank you. Stephen! Coming... 16:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Oops. I was changing an inappropriate tag at the time, and my fingers obviously weren't paying full attention. Can't even blame Twinkle... Peridon (talk) 16:43, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Not to worry - my fingers often rebel against me too; thank heavens for spell checker! Stephen! Coming... 17:04, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Calabe1992 (talk) 17:24, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Measurement of ground resistivity deletion

Dear Paridon I don't understand why my page was cancelled. The copyright infringement that was mentioned was not true because the "guilty" link was not of a page covered by copyright but it was just a research page of IEEE. From that page you can just buy the standards but not view. Moreover, the text of the article was written with my words and consulting those articles I mentioned in references. MOreover I took information from articles published by my thesis tutor but I didn't quote those articles beacause they are published in the net but in a company website and so I was afraid of being deleted. Could I have my article again? or what I have to do to have it back on line? Thank you --Danieleccc (talk) 22:18, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Will look into it tomorrow evening (my time - that's 24 hours. Only passing through tonight. Peridon (talk) 18:33, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
OK. Anything on that IEEE page will be copyright so far as we are concerned unless it can be shown to be public domain (unlikely, as they restrict access) or licensed under Creative Commons (equally unlikely - same reason). The thing is, it's published. OK, access is restricted, but it's still available to those who can sign in. I presume you can. I can't. Anything published is automatically copyright. The rights you get from membership will include the right to look at, download and use in your work. They won't include putting it on here. (This goes for images, too.) I can't check to see if you have used lumps of it or not - you'll have to argue that with the tagger or the deleter (who may have access - if they don't, how can they tell?). WikiDan's point about how-to could be a good one. We can have an article talking about Goose Mousse. (We don't...) It can discuss the different variants from Slobovia, Djimnazia and Bongostan (not to be confused with Bongo Stan the drummer...). It can discuss the controversy about whether it should be stirred clockwise or anticlockwise, and whether it should or should not include mint and cinnamon. What it must not do is tell you how to make the revolting stuff. The two relevant policies applying are WP:COPYVIO, and WP:NOTHOWTO. You can ask the other people to look here at what you told me, and what I've told you, then discuss at your talk page or here. You might get more comments here. Some of them might be helpful. I'll keep an eye on things. Good luck - Wikipedia isn't quite as easy as some think. It gets easier (until you get made an admin...). Peridon (talk) 18:20, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 October 2011

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sorry thats what i meant!!!

bonjour désolé, mais c'est ce que je voulais dire. Merci. Use a french translator for help.--Njavallil ...Talk 2 Me 12:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Page deleted

Hello Peridon, I am a Turk, living in london. Which has a reputation in certain regions of Turkey and Europe, saxophonist Sinan Keskin wrote a biography, but deleted. Ask to review again, this is the wikipedia page that turkey. http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinan_Keskin Thank you, Peridon

Sinan Keskin web site's www.ironi.web.tr www.facebook.com/sinankeskinofficial tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinan_Keskin www.twitter.com/SinanKeskin www.dogaicincal.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.235.12.133 (talk) 19:47, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I've moved this down to where it should be - we add new posts at the bottom of a talk page. Sorry, did I delete it? I can't find it under Sinan Keskin. I'm afraid those references are no good here on the English language Wikipedia. They don't fit our policy about reliable independent sources. Youtube and Facebook are self posted, so is Twitter, the subject's webpage is not independent, and www.dogaicincal.com appears to be a forum, but I don't think I can get into it without Flash. We have much more strict rules about references here than most of the other language Wikipedias - I have edited at least a dozen different language Wikipedias (mainly minor edits) and they have on the whole far fewer references. That Turkish Wikipedia (which, alas, is not a reliable independent source because it can be edited by anyone - and this one's the same too) article is only referenced by the official site. Please read WP:RS which is all about what are and are not considered reliable independent sources, and when you get back to me, please tell me the exact title of the article that was deleted, and put it in two [ at the start and two ] at the end. Thanks. Peridon (talk) 20:26, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Could I ask you to make sure you are logged on, and please sign talk page posts with ~~~~. Thanks. (If you are logged on and sign, I can look in your deleted contributions.) Peridon (talk) 20:51, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Umut utku --- dear Peridon Very very Thank you for a full description Peridon Well How can you help me in this regard. What should we do, because this information is true and there is such a musician — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.183.44.174 (talk) 22:17, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Please note that I can do nothing until I know either the exact title of the article or who you are. If you are the author, please log on and sign your post, or at least tell me your username. Apart from that, no-one that I know of has said that the information was not true. There are lots of things that are true, and lots of musicians that are real, but they don't get articles. Please look at WP:BAND and WP:RS. What you should do is show that he fits BAND and prove it with the reliable independent sources, as I said. Peridon (talk) 10:29, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Simple Texting ( Simple Texting ) page deletion

Hello Peridon, after long reading of rules and terms I finally understood why my page was deleted. I placed a new one under User:Aromash/Simple_Texting Can you please advise me, what can I change to make it more encyclopedic and how can I submit it. I appreciate your help. sorry for ignoring rules of publishing. I should have read everything before posting. Aromash (talk) 21:32, 31 October 2011 (UTC)Aromash

OK. Lose anything like 'our'. That says 'the company says that' and is totally unencyclopaedic. Also, don't 'offer' - that's brochure speak. Oh dear, easy-to-use, enables, and so on. At least you're not being passionate about your solutions for leveraging... Look at WP:NPOV and read other articles. Forget you're connected to the company. You're recording something for a time capsule, and by the time it's dug up, everyone will have developed telepathy and won't need txt, so you can't sell it to them. Don't think this is the worst one I've seen - there's hope so long as you can dig up better referencing than Yahoo! news. Look at WP:RS. No blogs, forums, wikis (not even this one as a ref...), no own site, Facebook, twitters or videos on Youtube. (The worst one was one I wish I'd kept a copy of - it was so promotional that I could hardly find out what they were trying to plug.) Don't copy my style here - this is highly unencyclopaedic. It's more fun than being that... Peridon (talk) 22:21, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
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