User talk:PeterSidhom

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Welcome!

Hello, PeterSidhom, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Quis separabit? 19:15, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Peter Sidhom article[edit]

Your edit has been reverted for the reason provided in my edit summary. Yours.
P.S.: Are you really the Peter Sidhom, opera singer? Quis separabit? 19:15, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

November 2011[edit]

This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because the username, PeterSidhom, matches the name of a well-known, living person.

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This blocked user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

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Request reason:

I am in fact the "well-known living person" you refer to! With hindsight, it may have been naive of me to use my own (well-known in the Opera world) name as my username, but it never occurred to me that you should think someone would want to impersonate me! What do I need to do to convince you that I am who I say I am, and get you to unblock me? Best wishes, Peter SIDHOM

Decline reason:

Hiya. The second paragraph of the block notice above says what you should do: send an email to info-en@wikipedia.org; one of the volunteers that responds to such mail will work with you to help you show that you're not some malefactor intent on impersonating baritones. --jpgordon::==( o ) 16:29, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.

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This blocked user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

PeterSidhom (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribs deleted contribscreation log change block settingsunblockfilter log)


Request reason:

I really don't understand why I'm being treated like some sort of disruptive cyber-criminal. What happened to "Don't bite the newcomers?" I've only ever tried to edit one article, to add a reference to myself following several requests, only to find my edits repeatedly undone. It took me a while to discover the "Edit History" page giving the reason for this constant deletion of my editing, and when I tried to communicate with the person reverting my edits I didn't receive the courtesy of a reply. Check the page and its history: I added nothing remotely objectionable. I apologise if I inadvertently broke some rule or etiquette: but a newcomer really should be helped to get things right, nor arbitrarily punished for some perceived outrage.

Decline reason:

We're not trying to "bite" here, the purpose of this block is to protect the individual known as Peter Sidhom, which may or may not be you. The reality is that we have no way of knowing if you are telling the truth, as said above, please send an email to info-en@wikipedia.org and they will help you to verify your identity and you can be unblocked. However you should also be aware that we do have conflict of interest rules which you will need to be aware of if unblocked Jac16888 Talk 18:12, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

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NOTE[edit]

  • " It took me a while to discover the "Edit History" page giving the reason for this constant deletion of my editing, and when I tried to communicate with the person reverting my edits I didn't receive the courtesy of a reply."
This is untrue. This banned user made no effort to contact me, my talk page confirms that. I, in fact, welcomed him (see above), specifically asked if he was the Peter Sidhom and received no reply. Adding promotional reflinks ("to add a reference to myself following several requests") at the "request" of unnamed others still violates WP:PROMOTION. Mr. Sidhom's fans should instead create a valid article (which I already recommended) on Sidhom in accordance with WP:BLP, WP:MOS, etc. Quis separabit? 23:27, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


There you go, "biting the newcomer". I really would appreciate not being called a liar. I DID try to reply to Rms125a@hotmail.com's question, but his talk page, or at least the page I was directed to, has the stern warning that "This page should be left blank", so I didn't pursue that avenue. Instead, given that his username is a hotmail address, I sent an e-mail to that address. It was not replied to.
I repeat that I'm new to this game, and if a breach of etiquette has inadvertently been committed, I again apologise and point out that it would have been far better to help than to chastise. But I begin to see that the so-called community is a closed shop, so perhaps it's best left to the insiders. On a matter of detail, before I added the so-called "promotional reflink", I checked out other people's links on the page I was trying to edit, precisely to make sure I was sticking to the guidelines; since several links led to those people's websites or online biographies, I thought it OK to do the same for myself. And the request to add a reference to myself came not from an army of fans, as groundlessly presumed, but from a retired teacher who several times suggested I should appear as an alumnus of the school concerned now it had closed. My email explained all this.
But I don't intend to get into a war of words, especially not with someone who calls me a liar without even having met me. Even in the superheated world of opera, there is a higher level of courtesy than I've so far met here.PeterSidhom (talk) 08:44, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Peter you don't appear to have noticed what I said above, so I'll repeat it. We're not trying to "bite" here, the purpose of this block is to protect the individual known as Peter Sidhom, which may or may not be you. The reality is that we have no way of knowing if you are telling the truth about who you are, as said above, please send an email to info-en@wikipedia.org and they will help you to verify your identity and you can be unblocked. However you should also be aware that we do have conflict of interest rules which you will need to be aware of if unblocked--Jac16888 Talk 11:45, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Jac16888 I did take note of your reply yesterday, and have indeed sent the e-mail you suggest (twice!) but have as yet had no reply. My post above was a reply to someone who appears to shoot first and ask questions afterwards (his talk page, which I've finally accessed but am not allowed to post on because of the block on my account, offers plenty of evidence that he does this regularly). Of course I am who I say I am, and when I'm finally asked to demonstrate this I'll do so willingly. But I'm not sure I want to join a community where it's assumed you're a liar, a fraud and a cheat as a starting point...PeterSidhom (talk) 16:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
You have to be patient, they get a lot of emails, and remember that everybody here is a volunteer. Nobody here is accusing you of being a liar, fraud of cheat, it really does just come down to the nature of the internet, i.e. anybody can claim to be anybody else. I could tell you that I'm James Earl Jones, and you have no way of knowing the truth. In fact you would probably assume that I'm lying. Sadly here on Wikipedia we get people everyday claiming to be someone they're not, most of them are here to be disruptive, and in more than one case they're here to slander the person they claim to be--Jac16888 Talk 17:45, 1 December 2011 (UTC
Jac16888 Thanks for this, and I'll try and be patient, frustrating though it is. But I fear at least one person HAS called me a liar, unless you can offer a different interpretation of a post that begins "This is untrue". I suppose it's also in the nature of the internet that people can say things they'd never say to your face: I could show you online reviews of some of my performances (especially in Wagner operas, which seem to bring out a particularly vicious sort) that would make your hair stand on end! But this felt different, more personal perhaps. Ah well, I should just develop an even thicker skin! Regards, PeterSidhom (talk) 18:05, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Mr. Sidhom, with all due respect, you stated (above) "I tried to communicate with the person reverting my edits I didn't receive the courtesy of a reply." I merely pointed out that this was untrue. There is no record of any message from you on my talk page. I have nothing against you personally and I am sorry that you feel this way. Yours, Quis separabit? 18:16, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


Rms125a@hotmail.com: I did try to reply to you fairly quickly, but could not post on your talk page because someone else had blocked my account immediately following YOUR expressed doubt that I was indeed Peter Sidhom, the opera singer. The other link on your name (quis separabit?) took me to a page where you request no posts. Please remember that I'm very new to this game, and at that stage I didn't realise that I could post replies on my OWN talk page, as I'm doing now. Since your username is a hotmail address, it then occurred to me to reply to you there: that e-mail hasn't bounced back, so I have to assume that it's still a valid address, although presumably you no longer check it. The point is that I tried very hard to reply to you, and found it very upsetting to be called a liar (for what else does "this is untrue" mean?) by someone who doesn't know me. At least now you're addressing me by name, which I hope indicates that you accept that I really am who I say I am, though I'm still waiting to discover what hoops the Wikipolice are expecting me to jump through to prove my identity. You shouldn't be surprised that the entire experience has put me off joining this so-called community, and that, while I intend to go through the necessary steps to unblock my account, that will probably be the sum total of my involvement with Wikipedia, which seems to go to inordinate lengths to make outsiders feel unwelcome. Regards, PeterSidhom (talk) 19:11, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
In the spirit of fair play and assuming good faith, I have unblocked the account, though we should continue to require the contact and the verification. So please continue with that process. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:30, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
  • This is verification that the user in question has sufficiently identified to OTRS and can be verified by any agent. I wish you luck on your future endeavors and feel free to stop by my talkpage (the red t in my signature) if you need further assistance. -- DQ (t) (e) 22:01, 4 December 2011 (UTC)