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Easy Goer FYI
Just so you know, my last edit rearranged a bunch of things but I didn't cut anything significant, I did some rephrasing and killed a few more parentheticals. The big thing is I moved the Sunday Silence rivalry up into the chronology because otherwise it was really awkward to follow the article and things were repeated that didn't have to be. You've actually got this article pretty close to Good article standards and if you put it up, I'd be glad to support your effort and help address anything the reviewers raise; I've run this particular gauntlet before (I have a lot of GA and FA articles) and can usually sort out what's a legitimate request from what's something to not take too seriously. I'd suggest adding a pedigree chart and a chart of his racing record; see what I did at Mucho Macho Man as an example of each, or at Paynter (horse) if you want to see a simpler article that can pass GA level. You also may want to improve the ref formatting; soe is good, others need cleanup. You're making better edits and kudos for that. Montanabw(talk) 19:38, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
The Wood Memorial is run 4 weeks before the Ky. Derby. And it has been run 4 weeks before the Derby since the 1990's. The fact that it was run only 2 weeks before back then is an important fact. Noting hand rides, under little urging, ridden out,etc are important facts about each individual race, and should be stated with/about that race, not as a whole. Noting the track was playing dull and slow for particular races is noted to explain the slow final times of those races. I feel they are important, but I'd understand if you don't, or if wikipedia doesn't. Peteski132 (talk) 11:30, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- I was wrong on the Wood - crap, I should know, I watched it this year, same day as Santa Anita Derby. What I was trying to explain to you at the article talk is that without context, all your "facts" are meaningless. My suggestion there is to create a chart with all the statistics, and that way the narratives can discuss things that made each race unique or useful to build the horse's career or whatever. But see Talk:Easy Goer for more. Montanabw(talk) 00:55, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I already answered in my last post here. I think each individual race had unique characteristics(under little urging, hand ridden, ridden out, hand ride, track was playing slow,etc etc) that would be better told about that race, rather than as a whole. I do not know how to create a chart with all the statistics. IMO, These are articles describing things, not chart stats to me. First, you say certain things should Not be in a summary about career, and others should be. This is contradicting. For each of Cal. Chrome's races there are descriptions of each race ("only mild urging", "minimal urging", etc). "He came in", doesn't sound like "particularly good writing". And I am sure if you look at many thoroughbred horse articles, you would see they need a lot of help. I didn't write them at all. I put context into the important facts I added. Peteski132 (talk) 04:05, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
- To some extent you are right that each race has unique characteristics, however, when you say "won under a hand ride" seven times, it becomes really boring - connect the dots and show the reader why he or she should care - a summary is good, say that the horse won by his wide margins without need for much urging. You can copy the chart from my Mucho Macho Man article and replace the races. It's tedious, but covers a lot of stuff that's dull to put into a narrative. Otherwise, the reader is going to get so board that they want to poke their eyes out with pins if they try to read it all. (Also, when you have to put a side comment in parentheses every three sentences, that's bad form too, too many asides) I agree that many TB articles need help, I'm actually trying to make you a better writer and, frankly, I put up California Chrome for peer review and you are welcome to go over there and comment, just don't be a troll about it. Montanabw(talk) 22:34, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
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I'll try to help you with assorted cleanup if you are working on the Zayat article. The "cite" tab in the editing window will give you a pull-down menu where you can select "template" and easily add all sourcing stuff and WP will format it for you automatically. Good Luck! Montanabw(talk) 05:41, 21 May 2015 (UTC)