User talk:Philip Cross
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- Whatever, but best to follow Wikipedia policies. The current West Midlands only formally exists from 1974, fifty years after Tony Hancock's birth and six years or so after he died. Philip Cross (talk) 10:51, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
A goat for you!
For changing my popularized to popularised on Ken Dodd. Good catch- cheers!
Hi Philip. I see you are still active at Mr Murray's BLP. As I'm sure you're aware, in 2016 Murray wrote a highly critical piece about your editing of his bio: "Is GCHQ Embedded in Wikipedia?"
Any quibbles that you have with the article can be brought up at the talkpage or relevant noticeboard. Surely, if only for appearances sake, you should refrain from further editing of Murray's bio, don't you think? --Hillbillyholiday (talk) 20:49, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- Murray's 2 year old article has featured prominently on my user page for some time. My most recent edits, finding the sourcing and notability of incidents unsatisfactory, along with my earlier changes, can be can be commented upon on the talk page in the usual way. Murray is naturally free to complain officially about my supposedly "derogatory" edits, but he appears not to have done. Philip Cross (talk) 21:26, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not commenting upon the substance of your edits, just the COI aspect and the apparent distress this is causing the subject. Murray has already complained publicly about your editing of his bio and by continuing to stick your oar in you are needlessly further upsetting him as shown by this recent edit summary: "I am Craig Murray. Philip Cross is a stalker whose hundreds of constant edits to my page are always hostile. He works together with Oliver Kamm and there is an obvious and repeated pattern of his making edits on the day of newspaper or twitter attacks by Kamm ... Wikipedia needs to offer me some protection from this stalking."
- The humane thing to do would be to leave this particular article well alone. If you feel there are serious problems with Murrays bio you can always bring them up at the BLP Noticeboard where uninvolved editors can make any necessary changes. --Hillbillyholiday (talk) 22:58, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- By all means raise this issue on the noticeboard, it would be useful to have an official opinion. WP:BLPCOI might apply to this case as it states an editor with a "significant controversy or dispute with another individual...should not edit that person's biography or other material about that person". (BLPCOI links to WP:POTENTIALCOI, which isn't really applicable). One blog article by Murray and a couple of comments is not a "significant controversy". Murray doesn't like my edits, an opinion he is entitled to assert, but he has not accused me of libelling him, and I am not working on his article, or others, in association with anyone else. So his accusations are false. What he terms "stalking" is usual Wikipedia activities. Philip Cross (talk) 12:44, 15 March 2018 (UTC)