User talk:Phoenix and Winslow

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Talk to me here. If you're abusive, your words of "wisdom" will be deleted mercilessly with no response. If you're really abusive, I'll leave it up and you'll be reported to the appropriate authority. If you're nice, I hope we can get a lot of work done together, and maybe have some fun too. Skoal. Phoenix and Winslow (talk) 14:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate the warm welcomes from ALS, WD and JMHN below. Especially JMHN. I love you too man. Phoenix and Winslow (talk) 12:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Uh... I hope I'm not being abusive...[edit]

I just came here to welcome you, the comment above took me aback a little. Um, here you go.


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This is not abuse![edit]

How's your battle with the professional disinfo agents coming on the Franklin Scandal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:02, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

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My dear Mr or M/s Phoenix and Winslow[edit]

Apparently, according to some, you are a bad, bad editor, all of whose edits are sh*tty in some way or another. [Just wanted to bust ur never-abused-yet cherry.]↜ (‘Just M E here , now) 18:28, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

"Never abused yet"? Have you read WP:ANI lately? He's the proverbial messenger-who-was-shot.
64/Phoenix, live long and prosper. I've proposed a solution at WP:ANI that may be acceptable for all concerned. Please review and comment. Thanks .... (talk) 04:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I can see a phoenix rising from 64's ashes -- can any allusions be drawn from Winslow? (Guess I'll Google the name. BRB.)
Have come back with nothing. (Other than the supposed meaning of the original place name, related to that given- or surname, in Anglo Saxon as a hill belonging to a friend. [WINE > 'friend'; WINS > 'hill belonging to'?])↜ (‘Just M E here , now) 17:08, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Here's a clue: "Phoenix" and "Winslow" are the names of municipalities in the state of Arizona. Phoenix and Winslow (talk) 17:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
The Winslow Motor Hotel is the closest motel to where I live (which I'd preface "not for nothing" except for the fact it is. Nothing, that is.)↜ (‘Just M E here , now) 18:51, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Your little acorn[edit]

Regarding this edit[1] maybe you'd do better with a polite request on Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters' talk page or the article talk page, because carrying out a dialog by successive edit summaries doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Personally, I'm confused as to why it's a POV issue at all. Saying that an attorney claims she needs more time, or reporting that authorities carried away computers when exercising a search warrant, doesn't seem to be a big slant either way. In the long run what matters is whether they find and prove something, not the form and extent of evidence gathered in one particular search. Anyway, I think your overall series of edits improves the article so thanks for the good work! - Wikidemon (talk) 20:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Blocked for 24 hours and topic banned for personal comments[edit]

You were warned just today about making personal comments. Despite that you made an unnecessary personal comment here. I'm blocking you for 24 hours and topic banning you from the Tea Party movement topic for seven days. That means you cannot edit any pages related to the Tea Party movement, including talkpages such as the moderated discussion; nor can you comment on the Tea Party movement anywhere on Wikipedia, including the talkpages of other users. Violations of the topic ban will result in blocks of increasing duration. SilkTork ✔Tea time 17:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

The hell? What am I missing in that comment that justifies this? Arkon (talk) 23:53, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
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Request reason:

The following was contained in an email to SilkTork: The block was unnecessary, as was the topic ban. I have no objection to you directing content. In fact, I welcome it. I was simply stating what I felt to be an obvious fact. I have been doing my best to help you move the project along at a faster pace, and make it easier for people to participate, which is why I started archiving the moderated discussion page (MDP), and why I became so frustrated when Casprings reverted the archiving and Ubikwit backed him up. I am also a bit frustrated by the fact that Ubikwit has not been the subject of a topic ban yet, when both North8000 and I have received topic bans, and now you have topic banned me twice. Ubikwit has jumped the gun on consensus twice, and you've been forced to ask him to self-revert both times. He did it once with the Perceptions spin-off article, and now he's done it with the lede of the main article. I would certainly have appreciated an opportunity to self-revert my edit of the mainspace rather than serve a week-long topic ban, and I'm sure North8000 would feel the same, particularly since our offending edits were far less substantive than the ones Ubikwit self-reverted. Regarding the alleged "psychoanalysis" of Ubikwit, this gentleman obviously has paper-thin skin and probably shouldn't even be editing in such a highly contentious topic area. I thought I had achieved a degree of rapport with Ubikwit, and was simply using him as an illustrative example of why we should not rely on academic sources to have the defining word on the Tea Party's agenda. I will not do it again. I am asking you to please remove the block and lift the topic ban, so that we can proceed with improving the article.

Decline reason:

WP:NOTTHEM. In addition, ANY unblock would require restrictions identical to a topic ban, so any request that asks for that removal would be moot (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:05, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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  • Hang in there, P&W. Persecution is a hard pill to swallow, but strength comes from adversity. If interested, we can collab on the iced-DOJ article. I've been meaning to finish it off. Always seem to find a way to embark on less-gratifying endeavors, for whatever reason. TETalk 17:01, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Agenda of the Tea Party movement[edit]

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Seeing it was me in the Moderated discussion that originally proposed the subarticle you are attempting to hijack, I'm going to have to take you to task.--Ubikwit 連絡 見学/迷惑 17:35, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Ubikwit, you had just as much right as anyone else to create that sub-article. You have just as much right as anyone else to edit it, at least for now. P&W went out of his way devising a method to satisfy your need for blockquotes at TPM when nobody else would (albeit, through footnotes). Now you have one better -- An entirely new article to add all the blockquotes you want. Where's the beef? TETalk 20:01, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
You can follow that thread out by checking the material I've posted at the Talk page and DYK page, including links from the Moderated discussion where the creation of such a subarticle was first suggested by me and subsequently discussed. There has never been a need for a subarticle on the Agenda, only on the Constitution as it relates to the agenda.--Ubikwit 連絡 見学/迷惑 14:58, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes, that's correct, and the content in Agenda of the Tea Party movement does indeed focus on the Tea Party members' understanding of the Constitution, and how it affects their position on such issues as the health care bill. The problem, as I see it, is that there's no established conensus among the academic community that the Tea Party takes an originalist view. Let's move this discussion where it belongs, on the Moderated Discussion (MD) page. Phoenix and Winslow (talk) 15:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Tea Party movement case - final decision motion[edit]

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If another instance of stalking happens by the editor you mentioned just let me know.--MONGO 16:27, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User talk:Phoenix and Winslow/Xenophrenic[edit]

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ANI notice[edit]

{{subst:ANI-notice} I've reported Ubikwit for his personal attacks on the PD. Malke 2010 (talk) 19:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Are you about?[edit]

Are you editing now? Malke 2010 (talk) 02:52, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tea Party movement closed[edit]

An arbitration case, in which you were named as party, has now closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

Pages related to the Tea Party movement, broadly construed, are placed under discretionary sanctions. This sanction supersedes the existing community sanctions.

The current community sanctions are lifted.

Goethean (talk · contribs), North8000 (talk · contribs), Malke 2010 (talk · contribs), Xenophrenic (talk · contribs), Arthur Rubin (talk · contribs), Ubikwit (talk · contribs), Phoenix and Winslow (talk · contribs) are indefinitely topic-banned from all pages relating to the Tea Party movement, broadly construed. This restriction may be appealed to the Arbitration Committee after no less than six months have passed from the closing of this case.

Collect (talk · contribs) is topic-banned from all pages relating to the Tea Party movement, broadly construed. This topic ban will expire after six months from the date this case is closed on.

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Snowded (talk · contribs) and Phoenix and Winslow (talk · contribs) are indefinitely prohibited from interacting with, or commenting on, each other anywhere on Wikipedia (subject to the ordinary exceptions).

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Just to be clear, pleas email us again either through Emailuser or at when you see this. Courcelles 23:15, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
            • This chapter is closed. Nobody admitted fault and nobody apologized. Time to get some work done. Phoenix and Winslow (talk) 18:41, 31 January 2015 (UTC)


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Welcome back Phoenix! There are plenty of articles that you can work on tbat will distance you from tea party movement stuff....let me know if there is anything I can help you with.--MONGO 16:58, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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