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Category:Geobox usage tracking for deprecated types[edit]

Is there a reason you retagged this page for deletion? I left a note in my edit summary AND pinged you in a post explaining why the page is still needed... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:39, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Unintentional; sorry. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:08, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 1 December 2018[edit]

Thank you ...[edit]

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... for article quality improvements in November! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:29, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2018[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2018).


Administrator changes

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  • In late November, an attacker compromised multiple accounts, including at least four administrator accounts, and used them to vandalize Wikipedia. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. Sharing the same password across multiple websites makes your account vulnerable, especially if your password was used on a website that suffered a data breach. As these incidents have shown, these concerns are not pure fantasies.
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Tech News: 2018-49[edit]

16:12, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #341[edit]

DYK for Des Helmore[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 6 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Des Helmore, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the artist Des Helmore illustrated more than 1,000 insect species from the New Zealand Arthropod Collection and had a weevil genus (species pictured) named after him? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Des Helmore. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Des Helmore), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Clairmarais aerodrome[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 8 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Clairmarais aerodrome, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the First World War Clairmarais aerodrome in France was utilised by the Luftwaffe from 1940 but proved to be unusable in wet weather? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Clairmarais aerodrome. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Clairmarais aerodrome), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Good one! I put it on P:DE and gave precious to your co-writer. Happy to have the lead hook in the same set, Tönet, ihr Pauken!, which they shall do today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLII, December 2018[edit]

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Wikidata weekly summary #342[edit]

Tech News: 2018-50[edit]

17:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Taxon identifiers: IRMNG (how to link)[edit]

Hi Andy, Tony Rees here (IRMNG compiler-in-chief). Some time back there was a conversation about including IRMNG IDs in the "Taxon identifiers" section of wikipedia taxon pages, based on wikidata - now done, all good, e.g. see the bottom of Firmicutes. I am thinking I should probably now do a Wikipedia entry for IRMNG (the Interim Register of Marine and Nonmarine Genera, since one does not exist, but am wondering how then that can get to be linked from the term "IRMNG" on each of the hundreds off thousands of relevant Wikipedia taxon pages - presumably by some automated update process which is unknown to me. (For other databases such as WoRMS, ITIS etc., such links are automatically created). So if I create the relevant new IRMNG page, can you assist? Regards - Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 19:10, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

@Tony 1212: I'd advise you not to create a page yourself, as you have a conflict of interest - see [[WP:COI|] for Wikipedia's policy on this. I'll be happy to start such an article; please let me know if you have any relevant sources, that I can cite. Once an article is created, and added to the {{Taxonbar}} template, it will appear on all the relevant pages. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:24, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Andy, if you are happy you can write something from scratch based on (the full article is open access and contains a lot of detail) and information provided at . There is also an early (2008) description of IRMNG "18.8. IRMNG – The Interim Register of Marine and Nonmarine Genera" at p. 72-3 of "The Proceedings of TDWG: Provisional Abstracts of the 2008 Annual Conference of the Taxonomic Databases Working Group",, which should be an early citable source I believe.
IRMNG also presently contributes content to the Catalogue of Life (see, Open Tree of Life (, Encyclopedia of life (, apparently down at the moment), GBIF ( and other sources which I can elaborate on later as needed. Hope this is sufficient to get going.
BTW I would be inclined to create a master page "Interim Register of Marine and Nonmarine Genera" with the information, plus a redirect page "IRMNG" which is a likely entry point for some users.
I am presuming that once the page is created, there should be no problem about me editing further, accompanied if needed by a relevant declaration of interest in that page's talk page. Regards - Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 20:45, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
@Tony 1212: Thank you; our messages crossed, and I've already started Interim Register of Marine and Nonmarine Genera. It would be good to have some independent citations, writing about IRMNG if there are any, but it should stand as it is. I would advise you to avoid making anything other than very routine edits, if any; better to drop me a note, or drop one on the article's talk page. I've aslo asked for it to be linked from {{Taxonbar}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:10, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Andy, looks fine for now, all good. Ta muchly. Tony 1212 (talk) 21:16, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Small text change request, if you are agreeable, to correctly reflect the current situation: Present text: "IRMNG is managed and curated by Tony Rees" could/should now read: "IRMNG is presently managed and curated by Tony Rees, with assistance (2016 onwards) from the VLIZ Data Management Team (DMT)." Thanks - Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 22:03, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Andy. You can get to bed now maybe...Tony 1212 (talk) 22:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Also thanks for your updates at . Let me know if there is any additional information I can supply, and how :) . Cheers - Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 00:55, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: I just checked, and the wikilinks to the IRMNG page are now displaying via the Taxonbar, so thanks for arranging that. Cheers - Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 05:31, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Andy, I sent a couple of messages to your email RE editing the new IRMNG page, just checking that they were received OK and that maybe you agree with the practice I have suggested (declaration of connection at the top of the talk page as recommended at Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#How_to_disclose_a_COI) which would permit me to make non-controversial changes and any additions needed to the IRMNG page without bothering a third party. Let me know what you think, Cheers - Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 21:14, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

@Tony 1212: No, I haven't got your emails; nor do I have another set recently via the same route; I'll investigate the matter, tomorrow. Please try re-sending, to andy@[my domain], rather than the other address you have for me. I reiterate my earlier advice regarding CoI edits: there be dragons. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Emails re-sent as advised 4 hours ago, let me know if not received... Tony 1212 (talk) 08:14, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Page splitting/shortening[edit]

Hi, I see you're interested in splitting and shortening the very lengthy pages that have made it onto Special:LongPages, which I certainly welcome. Do you have any experience with cutting down these articles? Cheers. Onetwothreeip (talk) 00:52, 6 December 2018 (UTC) Onetwothreeip (talk) 23:13, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes, why? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:12, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to know what pages you've split, that's why. Onetwothreeip (talk) 22:15, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Link to my edits in sig. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:37, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
I did have a look through that, you make a lot of edits though so it's hard to find. Onetwothreeip (talk) 00:41, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

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