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First Comment[edit]

Craig McAllister - article CE[edit]

Thank you very much, you have done a fine job there. Absolutly no objections, cheers, LiamTaylor 09:32, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback! Good luck with getting GA status for that article. Pine (GreenPine) t 20:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Your WP signature is malformed[edit]

[1]. Your WP signature should include a link to your WP userpage (User:Pine) --hydrox (talk) 20:49, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused. First, I DO check this page, and you only left this message yesterday, so I have no idea how you'd come to the conclusion that I don't check this page. Second, the signature is NOT malformed. It links to this page. I see what you mean. Wikipedia seems confused because of the usurp. I'll look at that, thanks. Pine (GreenPine) t 17:46, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I tried to contact you here, but you made new comment that SineBot fixed after that, so I concluded you were not receiving the message. Thanks anyway, if the problem is now fixed. Your signature must include a link to your logged in username's (User:Pine) user/talk page, even if it is a redirect. --hydrox (talk) 18:54, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Renamed account troubles[edit]

Pine, hiya.

I noticed your troubles with the rename; some of the pages got a bit mixed-up; the above request was me, working with an admin, to sort things out.

All should now be fine!

Your user page is just User:Pine, and your user talk page is this one, User talk:Pine.

We've restored the edit history of your user-talk page.

You don't need to edit any other user/talk pages.

You should always log in as "Pine".

The user/user-talk of GreenPine will redirect to this one (just in-case anyone follows a link from your old signature).

The pages at User:Pine (usurped) and User talk:Pine (usurped) serve as a record of what happened.

I hope that is all OK now, and I'm sorry you had difficulties.

Also, my thanks to m'colleague The Earwig (talk · contribs) for helping sort it all out.

Cloak on IRC

-I am trying to resolve that part right now (I'm in contact with Avic, who I believe you spoke to before) and group contacts; I will write more here within the hour. Doing... ...

I'm sorry; I did try to resolve your IRC Cloak issues, but I was unable to do so; I was told, you need to just apply for a cloak in the normal way, WP:CLOAK.  Chzz  ►  05:23, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

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The best way to contact Chzz is IRC (text-chat), here  · Second-best is my talk page · Third-best is email Chzz@live.co.uk
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Cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:09, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Space Shuttle Discovery STS-120[edit]

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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:STS120LaunchHiRes-edit1.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Makeemlighter (talk) 14:52, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter[edit]

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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Sonia Sotomayor[edit]

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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Sonia Sotomayor in SCOTUS robe.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Makeemlighter (talk) 22:54, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Page creation in apparent violation of NOTPROMOTION[edit]

You wrote that article Infopulse Ukraine LLC appears to violate WP:NOTPROMOTION.

  1. Could you explain what exact parts of article violates WP:NOTPROMOTION? I hope it will reduce amount of my work to correct it.
  2. How to move the article back to my userspace correctly? Can you do it for me? I would like do not lose the histories of edits of the article. ALEF7 (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
OK, I let's leave it in the article space for now if you're going to work on it briskly, but tag it with Template:Under Construction so that people know that the article needs work.
The basics of Wikipedia are that it is a "neutral compilation of verifiable, established facts," about notable subjects. For example, Microsoft is a notable company, but a single employee dog walking service probably isn't notable. In the article about Microsoft, mentioning that its CEO is Steve Ballmer is probably notable, but the name of Steve Ballmer's secretary probably isn't. When applying the same standards to your article, a company with 700 employees might be notable, but most of the sources that you cite seem to be trade publications or internal company publications that don't demonstrate that the company has any real significance beyond the fact that it exists in its market space, provides some B2B services to other companies, and has some history behind it. There's nothing in the article about notable contributions that the company has made in engineering or any other field other than its service to other companies.
So I would say that this article is borderline promotional in two ways, first because its demonstrated notability is so low that the mere existence of the page suggests that its main purpose is public relations rather than informing the reader of anything truly noteworthy for the general public, and second because the article's tone is generally complimentary, even going so far as to mention the employee training center and corporate giving programs which are absolutely not notable but do give good PR to the company, thus violating WP:NOTPROMOTION by their inclusion. I think that you could turn this into an acceptable article but I would start by deleting the sections about the employee training center and corporate giving programs, then working on improving the notability of the article by including more significant facts beyond than the company's support relationships to other companies and the company's employee headcount. See WP:NOTABILITY for more information about what is considered notable. At this point, the article probably fails the Notability standards for inclusion in Wikipedia, as well as having problems with NOTPROMOTION, but you might be able to fix both and I'll be happy to advise. Pinetalk 08:20, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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Someone is questioning your support !vote based on a minor change on the image Cerejota (talk) 23:41, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments on Talk:Inside Job (film)[edit]

Thank you for your comments on Talk:Inside Job (film). (",) 97.87.29.188 (talk) 22:10, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

  • Thanks for your note! Pinetalk 20:29, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Service award[edit]

This editor is a Novice Editor and is entitled to display this Service Badge.

For your 700 edits to Wikipedia, I hereby award Pine the Novice Editor service award. Please post this with pride on your talk page. Sp33dyphil "Ad astra" 07:58, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Pinetalk 21:07, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

A coal ball barnstar for you![edit]

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... is a good article. Thank you for nominating it against my wishes, when I was unsure and fearful of a quick-fail. →Στc. 08:06, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


Thanks! I did the easy part. The coal ball article is the work of others such as yourself. :) Pinetalk 19:07, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you for the help last night. :)[edit]

Just wanted to thank you for the help last night Australia time. Your contributions and fixing of my typos, grammatical issues and fixing of clarity issues was extremely helpful. :) I really appreciate the assistance improving it. I hope to take further advantage of your good will later today/tomorrow to further improve it. :) --LauraHale (talk) 20:31, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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The kitty is joyful! :D Thank you for the help last night with editing. We'll get done with this one day. :) Your patience and expertise is very much appreciated. :D

LauraHale (talk) 19:35, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Missed you on IRC[edit]

Went out to dinner and forgot to set myself away. :( Sorry about that. --LauraHale (talk) 07:35, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Writing Styles of Female Editors on Wikipedia[edit]

:D I'm going to see the Caps play tonight, so I won't be available on IRC. I didn't add any additional information of substance to the article between last night and tonight. I did run a spell check on the document, and corrected a few obvious errors. The table that compares Female created articles v Male created articles is in a footnote, starting on line 401. The methodology was as follows: I got a list of articles I created (about 495) and a list of articles Hawkeye7 created (about 46) and checked the formal gender coding of my articles vs Hawkeye7's articles. I did a very basic analysis, consisting of the following table:

Sortable table
Category Count Per cent
Total Female Written Articles In Sample 495 91.50%
Total Male Written Articles in Sample 46 8.50%
Total Identified Female Writing 37 6.84%
Total Identified Male Writing 504 93.16%
Total Female Written Articles Female Writing For Female Articles 34 6.87%
Total Female Written Articles Male Writing for Female Articles 461 93.13%
Total Male Topic Female Writing for Male Articles 3 6.52%
Total Male Topic Male Writing for Male Articles 43 93.48%

This was it. It supports the idea that there is no fundamental difference between male user/male identified and female user/female identified articles on the main space. The sample size of male and female users is limited to one each. These articles have likely been edited by many other users of both genders. The small sample size is why this information was put as a footnote instead of in its own section. If you think it is worth breaking out into its own section, I'm fine with the decision. I just wanted to note the relatively small sample size and fact that we can't assume the articles were exclusively edited by people who shared the same gender characteristics as the creators. (I know some of mine have not, as I have taken about ten to DYK, after asking for editing help from two males.)

I renamed the section that is now Comparison of Articles on Wikipedia and Other Wikis to that. This section is about where I think we left off in editing. Around line 796, "Using the analysis setting for..." I made what had been three paragraphs into one and tried to link it a bit better. The conclusions could be little more firm. I moved the wikiHow information that was in the conclusion part of that section to 623, where I also added information that helps suggest Geek Feminism Wiki has a female contributor base. If you think it would make more sense and give greater cohesion in the conclusion of the section, please feel free to move it back. :)

Outside of the areas mentioned (which please by all means fix), I think the second draft is mostly done and could use a cursory overview for a third reading. I've left the link for you on memoserv. If there are any major issues, I should be back around 9pm UTC+11, though I assume you'll likely be asleep by then. :)

Thanks again for the help. --LauraHale (talk) 05:44, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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You did fantastic work with working with myself and Hawkeye7 in contributing to the essay on meta. :D LauraHale (talk) 08:20, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Fantastic awesomeness. Seriously, the amount of work you did deserves too. :) LauraHale (talk) 08:21, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

A tool for you![edit]

Hi Pine! I've just come across one of your edits (or that you have been patrolling new pages), and noticed that you might appreciate some help with references.

I case you're not aware, you might consider using this tool – it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script:

// Add [[WP:Reflinks]] launcher in the toolbox on left
addOnloadHook(function () {
 addPortletLink(
  "p-tb",     // toolbox portlet
  "http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webreflinks.py/" + wgPageName 
   + "?client=script&citeweb=on&overwrite=&limit=30&lang=" + wgContentLanguage,
  "Reflinks"  // link label
)});

onto Special:MyPage/skin.js, then paste the bare URL between your <ref></ref> tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page! It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for PDF documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well. You may consider taking on Category:Articles needing link rot cleanup. So long! --Sp33dyphil ©© 09:24, 11 November 2011‎ (UTC)

How off task can I be?[edit]

More data! --LauraHale (talk) 04:45, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

This essay will haunt me until the end of time! Pinetalk 06:40, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
But it is awesome! :D So, because I was curious, I played around got HI! MORE DATA! I used the user boxes on wikiHow to create a list of wikiHow users by gender. I then ran their userpages through the same analysis I did for Wikipedia users where we knew their gender based on user boxes. The results are here:
Category Gender Count Percentage
Wikihow Identified Gender Male 66 28.6%
. Female 165 71.4%
Program identified gender Male 131 56.7%
. Female 100 43.3%
Correctness Yes - Female 81 49.1%
. Yes - Male 47 71.2%
. No - Female 84 50.9%
. No - Male 19 28.8%

We're dealing with a much smaller sample from a site that has 43% female participation but an overall smaller contributor base. They have a greater percentage of females identifying with userboxes than Wikipedia does. (Suggests to me that women feel even more comfortable expressing femaleness there.) Beyond that, the program correctly identifies women 11% more often than it does on Wikipedia. 11% in this case seems significant to me. I think we can assume some bias for male writing nature in both spaces because of the factual nature conveyance for both… but Wikipedia's population and WikiHow's should match up if they were attracting similar types of females… and they aren't because there is that 11% difference. Beyond that, the program correctly identified male users within 1% (both roughly 71%) for wikiHow and Wikipedia. This says to me the two wikis have unique groups of female users as their characteristics are not the same.

Better idea of the users with in the group…

STDEV Female Male
Female 1380.1 1457.5
Male 824.5 1012.9
MEAN Female Male
Female 810.1 852.3
Male 558.5 693.6
MEDIAN Female Male
Female 324 367
Male 276.5 319.5
MODE Female Male
Female 0 0
Male 0 213

--LauraHale (talk) 11:00, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

I'm wondering if the cn is still required on the iss ? Penyulap talk 04:16, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

I think it is. The claim that, "its final position at the front of the station increases the risk of damage from debris", is not supported by the referenced sources. Pinetalk 07:38, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Well spotted, I think I popped in the wrong one, I put in a link to the Kibō page rather than the ISS page, which has the swapping positions bit. Any better now ? There are 3 refs now, maybe I should lose the Kibō one ? Penyulap talk 07:53, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Pine, I've reworded that part to something better, anyhow, I'd invite you to take a look at the new wording. Also, please do keep in mind that the article has images of both Kibō's different position in the freedom space station section, as well as the risk model image in the debris section as well, plus over-referencing, called cite overkill would be something to keep in mind too. Penyulap talk 22:33, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
I'd agree that the two images showing the risk model and the location of Kibo on the station, combined, support the statement. I also agree that over-referencing could be an issue, so I'm satisfied with not adding references. However, the references don't appear to support that "only significant change has been the placement of it's ballistic shielding." Also, I am concerned that http://www.astronautix.com/ appears to be a website belonging to a private writer who doesn't list his credentials, and is therefore not a reliable source. Pinetalk 07:12, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
That's cool. I think sometimes, rather than just plagiarize 8-) I should use some of my own words, but naturally not 'make stuff up'. Summarizing sub-articles into main articles, or large sources into articles, it takes a bit of compression as well as simplification, or using easier to understand wording. They call it 'approachable' language in wiki-speak. I wouldn't worry about that site, if he has gone to that much trouble to come up with such a wealth of info, just to fool everyone, and has got away with it for so many years, well, I say we should all fall for it, out of professional courtesy to the greatest trickster of all time. Now NASA on the other hand, OMG misleading all the time (seriously) I could give you examples all day long. Hey what do you think of that link I gave on the talkpage ? The 'ritual' one ? lolz Penyulap talk 21:11, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Your vote[edit]

Hello Pine.

After you voted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Golden_Gate_Bridge_Sunset alternative was added, and the caption was changed. Maybe you could clarify your vote in regards to alternative.

Thanks.--GXK147 (talk) 03:51, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I like alt 1 better. Unfortunately the time for voting has expired. Pinetalk 20:56, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Re:Request to close conversation[edit]

I think it would be a little ironic of me to close that discussion, considering I've participated in it! I'm not sure it really needs closing as such- no changes need to be made, nothing needs to be clarified. Everyone seems to agree that there are occasions when a participant may be a closer, but most also seem to agree that no guidelines need to be added. J Milburn (talk) 23:29, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Re:Borderline vandalism on an FPC nomination[edit]

That is not vandalism, not even borderline- he is opposing based on perceived flaws in the picture. We might claim that his reasoning is poor, and we may be able to do so more civilly than TropicalAnalystwx13, but we most certainly should not be trying to get him blocked. Further, AIV is rarely going to be appropriate for established users, and the comment was made, and retracted, days ago. J Milburn (talk) 11:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

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Editing assistance: Perspectives on women in the WMF movement[edit]

Hi. :D As you do a fantastic job editing, I was wondering if you might be willing to help improve some of the articles on Perspectives on women in the WMF movement. At the moment, I've mostly done a lot of random putting of data into these articles, much of which is repetitive across different countries. They have no organisation, no framework and often utilise really poor grammar. :( It would be great to improve the organisation and flow on some of these articles, begin to give some of them a more unique feel… instead of a generic perspective with just the numbers changed. :) The purpose of these little sections is to bench mark women's related content by country, the on wiki involvement of women women from a certain country, the involvement of women inside the country (chapters or running events) and the involvement of women behind the scenes in the larger context of Wikimedia Foundation projects. It needs to be written as neutrally as possible, to not condemn the WMF for any failures here, nor to make the WMF look extra special awesome for how well they have done that. You're good with doing that balance. :) --LauraHale (talk) 21:50, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

GOCE 2011 Year-End Report[edit]

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The Quasar barnstar[edit]

Pine, a message awaits you here[6]. Please feel free to delete this notification and also to comment on my talk page if you like. Thank you. Djathinkimacowboy(yell) 10:32, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the new thread+star proposal.... Pine, I know you will have seen my comment at the thread for the new star proposal. I just wanted to drop a line here and say this really upsets me. Are you all really just going to ignore the fact that the new proposal has stolen the idea from my star? You even say yourself, The Quasar is going to be a PUA so this new star looks delightful. I don't appreciate thieves. You are not being accused of thievery: the proponent of that new star is in my book the thief. He clearly stole the original intent for the Quasar and re-worded it to make you all happy. So now his star will be created with his name on it... but it is my star.--Djathinkimacowboy what now?! 13:50, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
In case you are going to feel a bit lost, I mean the proposed "Instructor's Barnstar"[7].--Djathinkimacowboy what now?! 13:55, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to bog the page, feel free to delete it all if you like. You ought to see this[8]. It is the way I feel-- what was done to the Quasar wasn't bad enough, now I discover even more evidence that my original idea was simply stolen. Was it stolen? Was it somebody else's original idea too? You decide. This is really upsetting, I cannot overemphasise that!--Djathinkimacowboy what now?! 15:09, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I have responded to your concerns at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards#The Instructor's Barnstar - Pinetalk 08:41, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Query: new star idea proposals[edit]

Pine, as to this[9] may I query? How often may an editor propose a new barnstar? Please reply my talk page, thanks.--Djathinkimacowboy chase me thru the cemetery 13:48, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

For example, though here it's more of a 2nd query about specific stars already in existence: is there a star for editors who enlarge, brnup]]. So long! --[[User:Sp33dypwise enrich articles? Not something general like "improving", but, say, an editor who improves orphan articles etc.?--Djathinkimacowboy chase me thru the cemetery 13:50, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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A Gift![edit]

For a fine editor who needs a lift!

A gift.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:21, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Anna! Pinetalk 09:34, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

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DYKs[edit]

User:LauraHale/DYK pass fail. --LauraHale (talk) 01:33, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

What are you asking of me? Pinetalk 07:57, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
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World Factoring Yearbook[edit]

I'm leaving this message as you're listed as a current participant of WikiProject Business. I was informed yesterday that the current World Factoring Yearbook (circa £150) is now free for download as an ebook. It's a matter of filling out this form. I'm not sure if you'll find this useful as a reliable source, but I thought I should let you know that it's freely available online. I apologise in advance if this doesn't interest you! All the best, The Cavalry (Message me) 15:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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Saw these and thought of you.[edit]

What you are...
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What you need.
  • Ocaasi t | c 01:26, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
    • Thanks. :) This is what happens when you have bills to pay and have to work. Pinetalk 02:07, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


Talkback[edit]

In case you aren't watching, user talk:Dcoetzee#Non-automated edit counts. sonia♫ 19:26, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

All your fault[edit]

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Australia women's national water polo team set‎ . I got three opinions and yeah. We'll see how that goes. Scared to look. Either way, good to nominate just to know the process. --LauraHale (talk) 23:10, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Milk tea for you![edit]

HK restaurant 金鍕茶餐廳 Set lunch milk tea cup June-2011.jpg Milk tea for you!
Here is a cup of milk tea, make specially just for you per your request on IRC :P Hydriz (talk) 08:02, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! Pinetalk 08:13, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Reply[edit]

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Thanks for your queries ,hope I have clarified to you.I support retaining both WP:COI and WP:COIN in short .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:02, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Mezcala Bridge 2nd try[edit]

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Re: FP category[edit]

Panoramas go in the panorama category. It's a panorama, so... If you think that categorising content based on height to width ratio is silly, I'm likely to agree with you. However, that would mean re-allocating all the existing panoramas. I was involved in a big re-organisation that was started many months ago and is now mostly complete, where among other things, the distinction between wikipedian and non-wikipedian images was removed. If you want to argue for something similar w.r.t. panoramas, I will support your argument, but I won't be doing any of the work.

Three other comments:

  1. The category specification was originally added to make it easier for closer. So the way I see it, it's still closer's discretion, although closers can obviously make mistakes (and more people should be active as closers).
  2. From what I've seen, in those cases where the EV of the picture is for a bridge, they've mostly ended up in Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Others. So I see that as the status quo that you would have to challenge (and that your current placement runs against).
  3. There are people who think that listing in multiple FP categories is okay or even desirable, and there are some who think that's bloat. For possible future re-organisation, it's definitely easier if each picture is in just one category.

Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 23:44, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

NY training sessions[edit]

To tell you the truth, I'm not really much of a powerpoint/slides person. I tend to work more in my presentations directly from Wikipedia policy pages and example articles, and trying to engage the trainees from general points and their particular questions and interests.--Pharos (talk) 12:16, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

GOCE March drive newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update
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Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter.

Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far.

Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers.

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Hey Pine, hope things are going well. :)

I just finished a massive draft on our own very topical subject of paid editing on Wikipedia. I would love your close copyediting approach in checking it for neutrality, formatting, organization, reference detail, etc. I hope you can take a quick look. Cheers! Ocaasi t | c 12:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the heads up. I don't have enough time to look at that thoroughly right now but hopefully I'll get to it sometime this week. Pine(talk) 23:21, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

You are invited to this local event![edit]

I would like to invite you to attend a Wikipedia meetup described on Wikipedia:Meetup/seattlewp. This meeting is scheduled for Tuesday 3 April 7pm in Café Allegro. Thank you for your attention and I hope to see you there.


This invitation is a template message, by the way. What do you think of it? Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:00, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Replied. The template is ok but how about adding a picture? Pine(talk) 23:20, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Bloomberg Television Revisions[edit]

Hi-there. I spoke with you a few weeks ago about updating the Bloomberg Television article. You originally gave me the advice to post my revisions to the article's talk page, which I did. Unfortunately, I haven't heard back from anyone on the page, I assume from generally low traffic to that article. I know you're very busy with other priorities, but if you have time, would you mind taking a look at my revisions? I have them saved in my Sandbox here: User:RivBitz/Bloomberg_Television_Sandbox. Thank you in advance!--RivBitz (talk) 15:32, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Hi, I've put this on my to do list. Pine(talk) 20:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi-there, I was just wondering if you ever had a chance to take a look at my revisions for this article? I have sought out a few other opinions, but none have proved successful. Thanks! --RivBitz (talk) 19:36, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Hiya Pine! Teahouse question[edit]

Hola Pine :) A few weeks ago you mentioned adding the Teahouse to welcome templates, and I said I had to wait to say "yes!" to that. Well now I'm saying...yes! How can we make that happen? Thanks for all you do (I usually have foundation-l go to my trashcan, but, I was told about your posts recently and enjoyed reading about it..thanks for being so positive <3 ) Sarah (talk) 21:15, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Hi Sarah, I have added the link back to Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia after seeing your request here. To add the link to Template:Welcome you will need to contact an administrator because that template is fully protected. You may need to get a consensus to add the link to that template by posting your request at Template talk:Welcome before you request an administrator to add the link from that template. Thanks for your comments about the discussion on Foundation-l, and speaking of Foundation-l you may want to ask Steven Walling if he can include Teahouse information and links in his template testing work. Pine(talk) 08:53, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Pine. Thanks for adding that link. I'll ask an admin about the welcome template and seek consensus. Thanks for your input. We've pinged Steven and Maryana, not really sure if they're doing any template testing right now, but it's on their table at least. Thanks! Sarah (talk) 16:46, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

References[edit]

Please use high quality references per WP:MEDRS such as review articles or major textbooks. Thanks .
Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:48, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

To what article are you referring? Pine(talk) 21:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I have found the place where you reverted me. The section in WP:MEDRS on "Respect secondary sources" says specifically, "Using a secondary source often allows the fact to be stated with greater reliability." Pine(talk) 06:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
We do not typically use the popular press per [10]. The second ref is a primary research paper. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
OK, I get it now. WP:MEDRS isn't the most reader friendly policy I've encountered. If I get motivated enough I may propose rewording the section on secondary sources. Pine(talk) 19:47, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure we would be happy for feedback. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Depression (mood)[edit]

Wrt your most recent edit at Depression (mood), my comment that medication, psychotherapy and ECT are the mainstays of medical treatment is readily sourceable, but I agree with its removal until it's sourced to a WP:MEDRS-compliant source. As for the applicability and efficacy of the other interventions for depression associated with psychiatric syndromes, I'm concerned that we don't mislead the reader. Would you consider deleting that content until those assertions are sourced to a WP:MEDRS-compliant source?

The present content of that whole article is mostly uncontroversial, but it nevertheless is badly bereft of sources. I've got a lot on right now, but will eventually get to that if no one else has in the meantime. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 06:57, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

I removed the statement "depression associated with a mental disorder" from the section that lists treatments because the article isn't about clinical depression directly, and I don't think that we need to worry about WP:MEDRS as much because most of the studies are talking about treatments for clinical depression instead of the "simple" mood of depression. I think we need to make clear that clinical depression is a separate subject from what's covered in Depression (mood). However, many of the articles that are linked from the treatment paragraph do have references that talk about effectiveness. Pine(talk) 07:51, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
WP:MEDRS is essential for all medical content. As it now stands, that section, Depression (mood)#Treatment, is a bit of a mish-mash. Since most of the included treatments are unsourced, and as a precaution against inadvertently misleading the reader, I'll remove the section for now. Let's work on the wording on the talk page, and post it into the article when we've got something that is coherent, useful and reliably sourced. I can't attend to that immediately - I'm meant to be addressing Cancer pain next - but will get to it soon. Feel free to start without me. My main concern is not having unsourced and possibly useless/erroneous assertions about treatment in the article. (I'll copy this comment to the article talk page so we can continue there. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 09:47, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: March 2012[edit]

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Doodle for April Wikipedia Education Program meeting[edit]

Please leave your availability for the April Wikipedia Education Program Metrics and Activities Meeting on this Doodle so we can find the best time for all of us.

I also need a volunteer to lead the meeting! Will you help? Leave a message. It requires no advanced preparation, just the ability to welcome everyone and move us through the agenda. -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk)

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GOCE March drive wrap-up[edit]

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Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! This is the most successful drive we have had for quite a while. Here is your end-of-drive wrap-up newsletter.

Participation

Of the 70 people who signed up for this drive, 40 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Special acknowledgement goes out to Lfstevens, who did over 200 articles, most of them in the last third of the drive, and topped all three leaderboard categories. You're a superstar! Stfg and others have been pre-checking the articles for quality and conformance to Wikipedia guidelines; some have been nominated for deletion or had some preliminary clean-up done to help make the copy-edit process more fun and appealing. Thanks to all who helped get those nasty last few articles out of the target months.

Progress report

During this drive we were successful in eliminating our target months—October, November, and December 2010—from the queue, and have now eliminated all the 2010 articles from our list. We were able to complete 500 articles this month! End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here.

When working on the backlog, please keep in mind that there are options other than copy-editing available; some articles may be candidates for deletion, or may not be suitable for copy-editing at this time for other reasons. The {{GOCEreviewed}} tag can be placed on any article you find to be totally uneditable, and you can nominate for deletion any that you discover to be copyright violations or completely unintelligible. If you need help deciding what to do, please contact any of the coordinators.

Thank you for participating in the March 2012 drive! All contributions are appreciated. Our next copy-edit drive will be in May.

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The Tea Leaf - Issue Two[edit]

Hi! Welcome to the second edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!

  • Teahouse celebrates one month of being open! This first month has drawn a lot of community interest to the Teahouse. Hosts & community members have been working with the project team to improve the project in many ways including creating scripts to make inviting easier, exploring mediation processes for troubling guests, and best practices regarding mentoring for new editors who visit the Teahouse.
Springtime means fresh tea leaves...
  • First month metrics report an average of 30 new editors visiting the Teahouse each week. Approximately 30 new editors participate in the Teahouse each week, by way of asking questions and making guest profiles. An average of six new questions and four new profiles are made each day. We'd love to hear your ideas about how we can spread the word about the Teahouse to more new editors.
  • Teahouse has many regulars. Like any great teahouse, our Teahouse has a 61% return rate of guests, who come back to ask additional questions and to also help answer others' questions. Return guests cite the speedy response rate of hosts and the friendly, easy to understand responses by the hosts and other participants as the main reasons for coming back for another cup o' tea!
  • Early metrics on retention. It's still too early to draw conclusions about the Teahouse's impact on new editor retention, but, early data shows that 38% of new editors who participate at the Teahouse are still actively editing Wikipedia 2-4 weeks later, this is compared with 7% from a control group of uninvited new editors who showed similar first day editing activity. Additional metrics can be found on the Teahouse metrics page.
  • Nine new hosts welcomed to the Teahouse. Nine new hosts have been welcomed to the Teahouse during month one: Chicocvenancio, Cullen328, Hallows AG, Jeffwang, Mono, Tony1, Worm That Turned, Writ Keeper, and Nathan2055. Welcome to the Teahouse gang, folks!
  • Say hello to the new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, as being welcomed by experienced editors is a really nice way to make new editors feel welcome.

You are receiving The Tea Leaf after expressing interest or participating in the Teahouse! To remove yourself from receiving future newsletters, please remove your username here. -- Sarah (talk) 21:46, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

April 21 Edit-a-thon in Portland[edit]

Thought you would be interested in this special event if you're up for the trip: Wikipedia:Meetup/Portland.--Pharos (talk) 14:16, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Join us Monday for April Wikipedia Education Program meeting[edit]

Greetings,

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I need your help to lead the next Wikipedia Education Program Metrics and Activities Meeting! Will you leave a message if you can help? It requires no advanced preparation, just the ability to welcome everyone and move us through the agenda.

The next meeting has been scheduled for Monday, April 23 at 20:00 UTC. See the meeting information page for joining instructions and a time converter. Hope to talk with you on Monday! -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk)

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Hi Pine! Thanks for volunteering to lead the meeting on Monday. Please show up about 2-3 minutes early so we can make sure your sound is working. I've posted the general agenda here: outreach:Wikipedia_Education_Program_Metrics_and_Activities_Meeting. You'll be responsible for welcoming everyone to the meeting, and then asking Jami to kick it off with an update for the U.S. I will mute and unmute participants for the updates section, then at the end of Tom's update about Brazil, I'll have you ask if any other people who are at the meeting want to give an update (sometimes the representatives from the Czech Republic, Macedonia, Israel, or other countries have something they'd like to share). Then you can turn it over to Ayush for a short presentation of survey results, and then to Jami again for a discussion of the Working Group. Finally, you'll just need to ask if there are any questions at the end. When all questions are answered, or when we're approaching 1 hour, wrap up the meeting and thank everyone for joining us. Please let me know if you have any questions! -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk) 18:15, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
OK. Should I ask people who offer unscheduled updates to limit themselves to five minutes or so? Pine(talk) 20:05, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Exactly -- each update should be no more than 5 minutes. Thanks, Pine! -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk) 20:09, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
OK, I think I've got it. This should be an interesting meeting! Pine(talk) 07:03, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

GOCE May copy edit drive[edit]

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The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their May 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on May 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on May 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goal for the drive will be to eliminate January, February, and March 2011 from the queue. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 5 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, and Stfg.

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Wikipedia talk:Service awards#Improved template[edit]

I think this might be of interest to you. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 22:43, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For doing such an exceptional job running today's Wikipedia Education Program Metrics and Activities Meeting. Thank you for being such a great facilitator! -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk) 22:01, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Thank you! Pine(talk) 23:43, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Monarch in May[edit]

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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Monarch In May.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Dusty777 18:46, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Phalacrocorax fuscescens - Derwent River Estuary.jpg[edit]

Did the crop satisfy your concerns? Thanks. Makeemlighter (talk) 23:13, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the notice. I replied at the nomination page. Pine(talk) 04:54, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you![edit]

Gaufre biscuit.jpg And thanks for the 'star! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:09, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! Pine(talk) 19:18, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: April 2012[edit]

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Headlines
  • USA report: Wikimedia presence at American Association of Museums; Oregon Historical County Records mass upload; brief news
  • UK report: MonmouthpediA project; first QRpedia railway station
  • Spain report: Augmented Reality; emerging artists internship; workshop for museum professionals
  • France report: Release of content and outreach
  • Netherlands report: Edit-a-thon at Teylers Museum
  • Germany report: Long Nights; Wikipedia Academy; Wikipedia meets Museums, GLAM coordinator; Wikipedian in residence vacancy; Open GLAM workshop
  • Australia and New Zealand report: Australian and New Zealand GLAM efforts
  • Israel report: GLAM:NLI Edit-a-thon; Two Wikipedian-in-Residence positions
  • Sweden report: Wikipedian in Residence at the Swedish National Heritage Board
  • Bulgaria report: State Archive, Zoo and Natural History Museum
  • Open Access report: Journal meets Wikipedia; presentations at OA and Wikimedia conferences
  • Calendar: May's GLAM events
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A nudibranch for you[edit]

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Nudibranches are the best of the underwater critters. Thanks for the kittens! OohBunnies! Leave a message 19:21, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

List email[edit]

Yeah, it got through and has had several responses-- did you not receive any of these? Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 15:24, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Thank you for the strawberry's,they were delicious! "Selene Scott (talk)" —Preceding undated comment added 05:22, 7 May 2012 (UTC).

And I thank you for the barnstars :) Pol430 talk to me 09:25, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Suggestions[edit]

Thanks! I had a look this morning, and I'm glad you've clarified these issues that were brought up. I'm a bit confused about the claim that it would violate the privacy policy etc...are you as well? Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 20:30, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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  • Hi, that's not my AFC, I added the submission tag on behalf of someone else who was struggling to figure it out. I'll comment on your talk page. Pine(talk) 19:53, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

GOCE May mid-drive newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter
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Participation: Out of 49 people signed up for this drive so far, 26 have copy-edited at least one article. It's a smaller group than last drive, but we're making good progress. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: We're on track to meet our targets for the drive, largely due to the efforts of Lfstevens and the others on the leaderboard. Thanks to all. We have reduced our target group of articles—January, February, and March 2011—by over half, and it looks like we will achieve that goal. Good progress is being made on the overall backlog as well, with over 500 articles copy-edited during the drive so far. The total backlog currently sits at around 3200 articles.

Hall of Fame: GOCE coordinator Diannaa was awarded a spot in the GOCE Hall of Fame this month! She has copy-edited over 1567 articles during these drives, and surpassed the 1,000,000-word mark on May 5. On to the second million! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg

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Featured Picture[edit]

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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:ShiFengWaterFall 002.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Dusty777 17:59, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Photo Question.[edit]

I was strolling thru my new HighBeam account and did a search on Chesterfield, Idaho, an article I worked on when I first got started. I saw on HighBeam where the photographer of the images, Val Roberts, had passed away a few months back at the age of 75. I've always loved this photo he took of the Denmark Jensen cabin. It is a saltbox house built in 1884, three years after Chesterfield was settled. The small building to the right is a root cellar. Do you think it is FP worth? Sorry, I've done FA and FL, but I'm not a photographer, so I have no idea about FPs. Bgwhite (talk) 06:52, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

A historic building probably has enough encyclopedic value to meet that part of the FPC criteria, but this photo of the building probably would fail FPC because the image size is too small and the image isn't clear enough. This same shot taken with a better camera would have a better chance of becoming a featured picture. Pine(talk) 07:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
I have a higher resolution photo in my email. I just uploaded and replaced the photo with the higher res version. Hopefully this is better. Lucky I kept the over two year old email. I better update the other Chesterfield photos. I do have a question. Whenever I goto commons, it asks me to login. Has been doing this for awhile, but didn't used to. Is commons different when using the unified login? Bgwhite (talk) 07:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Commons is still showing me the lower resolution photo, but maybe there's a delay between your upload and when it becomes available for others to download. Are you logging into one site using http and the other using https, because if so then you will need to log in separately to each site. Pine(talk) 07:32, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Had me scared I did something wrong, but things look ok. Would clearing out the web browser cache help? I'm logging in via https on both sites. I just logged out of commons and it also logged me out on Wikipedia. When I re-logged into Wikipedia, I wasn't logged into commons. But, if I'm logged out of both and log into commons first, I'm also automatically logged into Wikipedia. Strange. Bgwhite (talk) 07:40, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
I can see the image at 1,280 × 900 pixels but not at 2100 x 1,477 pixels. Can you try your upload again? The login issue sounds similar to one that I have with Outreach. I think it's a known problem. Pine(talk) 07:47, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
I cleared my cache and clicked on full resolution and I saw the 2100 x 1,477 pixel version. Commons just doesn't like me. Bgwhite (talk) 08:15, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
OK this works for me now. I'd say that there's a lot of noise in that image that probably would make it not pass a featured pictures nomination, but you could think about a Commons Valued Pictures nomination. Pine(talk) 18:42, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for judgement. I'll take to valued picture nomination then. I never heard of that before, so thank you for telling me. There's a photo of another saltbox house that is a crappy photo, but great house... house has two front doors, a door for each polygamous wife. Bgwhite (talk) 20:42, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

CPO and related drafts[edit]

Hi there, Pine. Thanks for continuing to follow up the discussion on CPO and related articles. I've posted a fairly detailed response to Fifelfoo's plagiarism allegation, and offered some alternative sources to Lexology below. I suppose it's more on Fifelfoo to reply at the moment, but I wanted to say thanks for helping to work this through. Also: I dig the green glow in your sig, don't believe I've seen that before. WWB Too (talk) 15:27, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Working Group members page[edit]

I like how proactive you are. However, the current questions are just in place until I hear back from a few people about what questions we should post on there. Sorry about the confusion! JMathewson (WMF) (talk) 20:40, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Pages[edit]

Thanks! Glad to know my work is appreciated. Keep up the good work yourself! Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 20:24, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

STRAT-X[edit]

Hello Pine. We use the GOCE Requests page for requests made by editors to GOCE as a whole, that any editor may pick up. Throughout Wikipedia, many copy edits and similar things are done by private arrangement, and we don't record or archive those, as there is really no need. My understanding was that you did STRAT-X when Sp33dyphil accepted an offer you made privately. If so, we don't need to record that. Have I misunderstood it? Kind regards, --Stfg (talk) 11:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

  • OK, I'll remove the entry from the GOCE archive. Pine 19:53, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
    • Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 20:21, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: May 2012[edit]

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Headlines
  • USA report: OCLC announces Wikipedian in Residence; 2 edit-a-thons; US cultural partnerships report; brief news
  • UK report: Monmouthpedia launches; British Library Wikipedian in Residence
  • Spain report: Wikipedian in Residence at National Art Museum; Wikimedia representation at MuseumNext
  • France report: Cultural lobbying; current and future projects
  • Italy report: Wiki Loves Monuments and Case Studies
  • Germany report: GLAM work in cities across Germany
  • Sweden report: GLAM handbook released; Europeana Awareness project launched
  • Mexico report: Collaborating with local artisans through Museo de Arte Popular
  • Africa report: Lagos Black Heritage Festival and Case Studies
  • Australia and New Zealand report: Wikimedia representation at Intelligent Info conference; editing workshops
  • Open Access report: Open Access developments: politics and software
  • Calendar: June's GLAM events
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GOCE May drive wrap-up[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up
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Participation: Out of 54 people who signed up this drive, 32 copy-edited at least one article. Last drive's superstar, Lfstevens, again stood out, topping the leader board in all three categories and copy-editing over 700 articles. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We were once again successful in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog—while removing 1166 articles from the queue, the second-most in our history. The total backlog currently sits at around 2600 articles, down from 8323 when we started out just over two years ago.

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Coodinator election: The six-month term for our third tranche of Guild coordinators will be expiring at the end of June. We will be accepting nominations for the fourth tranche of coordinators, who will also serve a six-month term. Nominations will open starting on June 5. For complete information, please have a look at the election page. – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, and Stfg

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Email[edit]

You have one - could you please check quickly if possible? Thanks! Risker (talk) 00:03, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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Making the Wikipedia Education Program Meeting better[edit]

Thanks for expressing interest in the Wikipedia Education Program Metrics and Activities Meeting. I'm investigating ways to make the meeting more effective, and I'd love to get feedback from you as to what we could do to improve the meeting. Please weigh in on the discussion there! -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk)

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A kitten for you![edit]

Thank you for the kitten! You are the best! I will try to learn and be brillian, I promise.

Fiona Kelleghan (and I'm probably doing something wrong there - but I will learn!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by FiverFan65 (talkcontribs) 11:49, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Pine 20:42, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Ping[edit]

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Steven (WMF)'s talk page.

Thanks[edit]

Thanks, which sandbox? The one on this wiki is empty. Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 15:14, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Ah, yes. That's what we call a "leak", lol. Thankfully, I don't think any of it wasn't public knowledge. I realized I was drafting it on Wikipedia and moved it to our internal wiki. Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 20:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia and Narnia apparently share that characteristic. Face-grin.svg Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 15:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Four[edit]

Hi! Welcome to the fourth issue of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter for the Teahouse!

  • Teahouse pilot wraps up after 13 weeks After being piloted on English Wikipedia starting in February, the Teahouse wrapped up its pilot period on May 27, 2012. We expect this is just the beginning for the Teahouse and hope the project will continue to grow in the months to come!

Thank you and congratulations to all of the community members who participated - and continue to participate!

  • What you've all been waiting for: Teahouse Pilot Report is released! We look forward to your feedback on the methodology and outcomes of this pilot project.
  • ....and if a pilot report wasn't enough, the Teahouse Pilot Metrics Report is out too! Dive into the numbers and survey results to learn about the impact the Teahouse has made on English Wikipedia.
  • Teahouse shows positive impact on new editor retention and engagement
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  • 409 new editors participated during the entire pilot period, with about 40 new editors participating in the Teahouse per week.
  • Two weeks after participating, 33% of Teahouse guests are still active on Wikipedia, as opposed to 11% of a similar control group.
  • New editors who participated in the Teahouse edit 10x the number of articles, make 7x more global edits, and 2x as much of their content survives on Wikipedia compared to the control group.
  • Women participate in the Teahouse 28% of Teahouse participants were women, up from 9% of editors on Wikipedia in general, good news for this project which aimed to have impact on the gender gap too - but still lots to be done here!
  • New opportunities await for the Teahouse in phase two as the Teahouse team and Wikipedia community examine ways to improve, scale, and sustain the project. Opportunities for future work include:
  • Automating or semi-automating systems such as invites, metrics and archiving
  • Experimenting with more ways for new editors to discover the Teahouse
  • Building out the social and peer-to-peer aspects further, including exploring ways to make answering questions easier, creating more ways for new editors to help each other and for all participants to acknowledge each other's efforts
  • Growing volunteer capacity, continuing to transfer Teahouse administration tasks to volunteers whenever possible, and looking for new ways to make maintenance and participation easier for everyone.
  • Want to know how you can lend a hand at the Teahouse? Become a host! Learn more about what makes the Teahouse different than other help spaces on Wikipedia and see how you can help new editors by visiting here.
  • Say hello to the new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, as being welcomed by experienced editors is really encouraging to new Wikipedians.

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Office hour[edit]

Thanks for the question, Pine. It'll be strictly open Q/A, since we know lots of people have questions as of late. Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 19:26, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive[edit]

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The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their July 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on July 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on July 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to eliminate the articles tagged in April, May and June 2011 from the queue and to complete all requests placed before the end of June. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 6 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in April–June 2011", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg.

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Talkback[edit]

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at User talk:Steven (WMF)#E3 questions's talk page.

One more. ;) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 21:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

News![edit]

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Wikipedia:WikiProject_Globalization has been created! Be sure to sign the participants section! Meclee (talk) 17:42, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

OS Run[edit]

I would like to thank everyone for your questions and comments. If appointed I will strive to do the best job possible for the community and the project I will also keep in mind that according to this log I will be the only non-admin in the group and the best I could hope for is to pave a strong smooth path for future non-admins, again I appreciate your interest, concerns and support. Mlpearc (powwow) 14:50, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

re United States[edit]

I didn't get the chance to give a better explanation than what was given when someone else reverted, so here it is: The territories are not part of the country, but rather possessions thereof, just like Gibraltar and Man, etc., are not parts of the United Kingdom. The United States itself is constituted by fifty states, one federal district, and one incorporated, unorganized territory (Palmyra Atoll). Everything else is an unincorporated territory, and thus not part of the constitutional framework. --Golbez (talk) 13:59, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

  • I was looking at this discussion here. It seemed to me that this hadn't been resolved conclusively one way or the other, so I WP:BOLDLY made the change. Is the distinction the one made in Balzac v. Porto Rico of what belongs to the United States versus what is a part of the United States? If so, I think that the case should be cited in the opening paragraph of the article to make that distinction clear. Pine 19:36, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
    • I don't think that's necessary; we leave a lot out of the opening paragraphs, for example the existence and significance of Palmyra Atoll. We certainly don't need to go into the legal particulars of why Puerto Rico is not part of the country. --Golbez (talk) 22:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Stevens Institute of Technology article updates[edit]

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Thank you for your review and advice. I will go back to the Paid Editor help section to find another reviewer. Thank you again. QueenCity11 (talk) 12:42, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you![edit]

Erdbeerteller01.jpg Aww thank you for the barnstar, Pine, it was a very nice way to wake up this morning :-) The Teahouse is lucky to have your support, hope it always will! Sbouterse (WMF) (talk) 16:31, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

Thanks for the barnstar, Pine! A bummer I didn't get to meet you at the Wiknic a few weeks ago. Hope we get to chat at a meetup one of these days. Cheers, - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 17:25, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: June 2012[edit]

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Participate in a user study on UW campus?[edit]

Hi Pine, Us UW folks are looking for a few veteran Wikipedians to participate in a usability study of our new editing toolbar, called Re:Flex. The study would require you to come to our lab in Sieg Hall on UW campus (at a date and time that works for you), would talke approximately 1 hour, and you will be compensated for your time.

This study has been approved by RComm and by UW's Institutional Review Board, and any additional information about the study (such as the purpose of the study, and how we will store and use your session data) is available upon request.

It's possible someone from UW already approached you about this at the WikNic (if so, sorry for the request spam!). Does this sound interesting? Reply here (or email me) if so, or if you have any questions. Cheers, - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 22:52, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

  • OK, I'm interested. Please mail me with some dates that would work for you. Pine 05:36, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Woot! Thanks Pine. My collaborator Anna will email you shortly with some possible dates and times. It should be fun! Cheers, - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 21:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

Hi Pine, thanks so much for this! Glad you liked hearing about the program in Cairo. -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk) 13:01, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you![edit]

Erdbeerteller01.jpg As requested, ripe, fresh and juicy strawberries! Cheers, Riley Huntley talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 08:07, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the delicious strawberries. Pine 08:13, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 mid-drive newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter
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Participation: Out of 37 people signed up for this drive so far, 25 have copy-edited at least one article. It's a smaller group than last drive, but we're making good progress. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, every bit helps; if you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: We're almost on track to meet our targets for the drive. Great work, guys. We have reduced our target group of articles—May, June, and July 2011—by about 40%, and the overall backlog has been reduced by 264 articles so far, to around 2500 articles.

Copy Edit of the Month: Starting in August, your best copy-editing work of the month will be eligible for fabulous prizes! See here for details. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.

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You know what goes well with ice cream?[edit]

Brownie transparent.png This. MJ94 (talk) 07:32, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

USCAN Education Program strategy[edit]

Pine, sorry you couldn't make the meetings in DC. I fully understand the priorities of work. If you have any questions about the work accomplished to date from a strategy process perspective, don't hesitate to ask. Glad to have you on board and thanks for volunteering for the Financial Processes. --Mike Cline (talk) 01:40, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

FP comment[edit]

Hi Pine, as you commented and also supported the nomination of FPC IDF soldier put on tefillin I want to inform you I created another nomination of the same image as the old nomination was closed without further comments from other users. If you still wish to support the image it is located Here (tefillin)
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 14:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Adventure: Request for feedback on Community Fellowship proposal[edit]

Hi! I'm contacting you because you have participated or discussed The Wikipedia Adventure learning tutorial/game idea. I think you should know about a current Community Fellowship proposal to create the game with some Wikimedia Foundation support. Your feedback on the proposal would be very much appreciated. I should note that the feedback is for the proposal, not the proposer, and even if the Fellowship goes forward it might be undertaken by presently not-mentioned editors. Thanks again for your consideration.

Proposal: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships/Project_Ideas/The_Wikipedia_Adventure

Cheers, User:Ocaasi 16:41, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July drive wrap-up[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up
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Participation: Out of 45 people who signed up this drive, 31 have copy-edited at least one article. Lfstevens continues to carry most of the weight, having edited 360 articles and over a quarter of a million words already. Thanks to all who have participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, will be available early in August here.

Progress report: We are once again very close to achieving in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog. Only 35 such articles remain at press time. The total backlog currently sits at under 2400 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We are just two articles away from completing all requests made before July 2012 (both are in progress).

Copy Edit of the Month: Starting in August, you'll be able to submit your best copy-editing work for palaver, praise, and prizes. See here for details. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.

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This Month in GLAM: July 2012[edit]

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  • USA report: World Digital Library Wikipedian in Residence
  • UK report: British Library update; UK representation at Wikimania 2012; brief news
  • Spain report: Wikipedian in Residence for a whole town; Backstage Pass at National Art Museum of Catalonia
  • Germany report: Wikipedian in Residence updates; WikiCon 2012; Hamburgmuseum workshop
  • Italy report: July's case studies shed new light on African GLAMs
  • Mexico report: Second editathon with Wikipedia Student Clubs; participation in Mexico City's Creative Commons Film Festival; private art gallery donates 650+ images
  • Africa report: A month in Africa's GLAMs
  • Wikimania report: Wikimania gets GLAMorous
  • Open Access report: Open Access at Wikimania; Year 2 of Wikimedian in Residence on Open Science; Open Access Media Importer tested; WikiProject Medicine goes publishing
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The Tea Leaf - Issue Five[edit]

Stop by for a tasty glass of wiki-iced tea at the Teahouse, today!

Hi! Welcome to the fifth edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!

  • Guest activity increased in July. Questions are up from an average of 36 per week in June to 43 per week in July, and guest profile creation has also increased. This is likely a result of the automatic invite experiments we started near the end of month, which seeks to lessen the burden on hosts and other volunteers who manually invite editors. During the last week of July, questions doubled in the Teahouse! (But don't let that deter you from inviting editors to the Teahouse, please, there are still lots of new editors who haven't found Teahouse yet.)
  • More Teahouse hosts than ever. We had 12 new hosts sign up to participate at the Teahouse! We now have 35 hosts volunteering at the Teahouse. Feel free to stop by and see them all here.
  • Phase two update: Host sprint. In August, the Teahouse team plans to improve the host experience by developing a simpler new-host creation process, a better way of surfacing active hosts, and a host lounge renovation. Take a look at the plan and weigh in here.
  • New Teahouse guest barnstar is awarded to first recipient: Charlie Inks. Using the Teahouse barnstar designed by Heatherawalls, hosts hajatvrc and Ryan Vesey created the new Teahouse Guest Barnstar. The first recipient is Charlie Inks, for her boldness in asking questions at the Teahouse. Check out the award in action here.
  • Teahouse was a hot topic at Wikimania! The Teahouse was a hot topic at Wikimania this past month, where editor retention and interface design was heavily discussed. Sarah and Jonathan presented the Teahouse during the Wikimedia Fellowships panel. Slides can be viewed here. A lunch was also held at Wikimania for Teahouse hosts.

As always, thanks for supporting the Teahouse project! Stop by and visit us today!

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Advice[edit]

Hi Pine, I hope you don't mind, I'm hoping to get your opinion as to the FP potential of these videos:

Space Shuttle Challenger address: ranked #8 on the list on top 100 American speeches of the 20th century. Featured in Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, Oval Office Address, User:Lionelt/Speeches of Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, John Gillespie Magee, Jr..

Berlin Wall speech: Time Magazine ranked the speech in its list of the top 10 political speeches. "Tear down this wall!" has been called "The four most famous words of Ronald Reagan's Presidency." Featured in Tear down this wall!, Berlin Wall, User:Lionelt/Speeches of Ronald Reagan, Cold War (1985–1991), Foreign policy of the Ronald Reagan administration
Thanks, – Sir Lionel, EG(talk) 09:04, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

  • Yes, I think those would be good nominations! Pine 22:25, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

This Month in Education: August 2012[edit]





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Wikipedia Takes America/Seattle[edit]

Wikipedia Takes America/Seattle needs you. Please sign up to participate, and discuss a date and meeting location. And maybe volunteer to be the organizer. I've been tagging articles needing photos for Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Seattle, Washington. A lot of these articles need proper location data added to that they will appear on the Google map. Thanks! --Dennis Bratland (talk) 19:52, 19 August 2012 (UTC)