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Yuri[edit]

Okay, I have restored the redirect, but I see no links to it. Deb (talk) 11:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Incidentally, it was showing up as a new article, hence the move seems to have been from a recently-created article. Deb (talk) 11:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Template:1911[edit]

Sorry I've been busy on other things. I have yet to write up the documentation on the changes I have made. I'll do that sometime over the next 24 hours.

The original two unnamed parameters will still work in much the way as they did before, but I am going to leave them undocumented (and depreciate their use) as it will be better to use named parameters as they are more flexible. I have put in enough documentation to cover anyone who needs to add a new template until such time as I write up the documentation.

So I hope it will satisfy you for the moment. -- PBS (talk) 13:42, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

FYI

{{1911|London}} Wikisource This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domainChisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "article name needed". Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press.  Text "London" ignored (help)
{{1911|article=London}} Public Domain This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domainChisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "article name needed". Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. 
{{1911|wikisource=London}} Public Domain This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domainChisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "article name needed". Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. 
{{1911|wikisource=London|inline=1}} Public Domain One or more of the preceding sentences incorporates text from a publication now in the public domainChisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "article name needed". Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. 
{{1911|article=London|inline=1}} Public Domain One or more of the preceding sentences incorporates text from a publication now in the public domainChisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "article name needed". Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. 
{{1911|article=London|no-prescript=1}} Public Domain Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "article name needed". Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. 

--PBS (talk) 13:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Nome (country subdivision)[edit]

Hi, now that Nome (country subdivision) points to a disambig, could you help out fixing links per WP:FIXDABLINKS? I've found navigation popups to be very useful when you set the popupFixDabs flag to true. --JaGatalk 19:50, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jean-Michel Thierry[edit]

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Anastasius (Samaria)[edit]

Of the recently added categories in Anastasius (Samaria), "clergy" strikes me as odd. He doesn't seem to have ever been a priest. Am I missing something? Dimadick (talk) 09:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Ships built in versus Ships built at[edit]

I reverted your action on the ship that was built in Poland. The reason is, that I try to use two different systems: "Built in" and "Built at". For the schips by name you can find the country of building, the category by IMO number shows the shipyard. Combining will be double and there are a number of too strict rule-followers who will throw away one of the categories. I hope this way of working will survive. Experts work by IMO numbers and are interested in the yards. The gerenal publc is not very interested in the yards, only the country where a ship was built. --Stunteltje (talk) 17:50, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Category:Roman Catholic church buildings[edit]

This is not as duplicate of Category:Roman Catholic churches. Churches is ambiguous and since it applies to both buildings and congregations and denominations. Also, it is against guidelines to empty categories. If you want to move or rename a category you must use WP:CFD. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:23, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

The use of church buildings was decided by consensus several months ago. Due to the way categories work, it is more important that the names be unambiguous. If anything should be eliminated, we should probably explore eliminating Category:xxx churches since that is the ambiguous term. Of course that should be kept if it makes sense to bring all of the various uses of the term church at that name. I'm not convinced that that would be the right move. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:52, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

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May 2012[edit]

Before adding a category to an article, please make sure that the subject of the article really belongs in the category that you specified according to Wikipedia's categorization guidelines. Categories must also be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories may be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Thank you. The footballers Giannis Amanatidis and Ioannis Maniatis are not Greek MPs. There is a teacher named Giannis Amanatidis and an engineer named Giannis Maniatis who were elected MPs, I assume you meant to add them. Kosm1fent 15:52, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for noticing that! It is far from uncommon to have sportspeople joining politics, so I was not surprised to see footballers in the list. If you are familiar with Greece, have a look at the list of members of the Hellenic Parliament, May–June 2012, that I just compiled, to see if some blue links (or red links) have to be corrected. Place Clichy (talk) 16:19, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
I've red-linked the two MPs I've mentioned above and added an external link to the Parliament's website. The problem is, however, that most Greek MPs don't have articles; such a shame, considering that all of them would pass WP:POLITICIAN. Cheers. Kosm1fent 16:38, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

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Infobox London station[edit]

Thanks for sorting that out. I was wondering what happened and couldn't work it out. Simply south...... eating shoes for just 7 years 22:42, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

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Orthodox map[edit]

I made the changes you suggested. I think I originally did mean to color in Kosovo, but forgot because of how much effort the other changes took. SpencerCS (talk) 00:27, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

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Infobox officeholder[edit]

I revived your question Template talk:Infobox officeholder#Question for ministerial positions/cabinet members. — Petr Matas 06:13, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Overcategorisation Mont Cenis Pass Railway[edit]

Please see Category:19th-century disestablishments in France

These generic category structures are almost empty. As there are already

  • Railway lines opened in 1868,
  • Railway lines closed in 1871,
  • Railway companies established in 1866 and
  • Railway companies disestablished in 1871...

...I think this is a clear case of overcategorisation.--Aaron-Tripel (talk) 13:32, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, Establishments by country and Disestablishments by country hierarchies do exist and have a great number of pages in it, so it would be a bit far-fetched to suggest that the community's consensus goes against adding such categories to articles. For instance 1868 establishments in England alone has 27 pages in it. However, I will not add these particular cats back into the article following your edit. Place Clichy (talk) 14:34, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
(Moved answer back to where it belongs)
Moving one category level up from your example clearly indicates that this hierarchy isn't substantially populated at all (Category:1868 establishments by country). The single fact that a category hierarchy exist doesn't mean there is a consensus to randomly filling it as this hierarchy could potentially be filled with thousands of articles, rendering it useless.
With random I mean the example I gave earlier, between all the red links of Category:19th-century disestablishments in France only Category:1871 disestablishments in France and a few others are populated.
The following discussion indicates that there is no consensus or policy at all about this hierarchy: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories/Archive 3#RfC on "Years by country" categories--Aaron-Tripel (talk) 15:35, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

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Greek![edit]

Hiya! I noticed that you have both Greek and German infoboxes on your profile. User:Vl.eu came onto the undeletion request forum requesting help with the article for Vicky Leandros. I left them some general information and recommended that they find a person who speaks their native language, since they have stated that their English isn't as strong as it could be. I'd like to say that they speak Greek or German since they listed the Greek and German websites for Leandros, although I'm somewhat suspecting that they're a Greek speaker. Nothing to back that up, though. In any case, would you be willing to try to converse with them in Greek and/or German to see if that's what they speak? I think that they mean well, but they would likely need to have things explained in their native language. I've tagged them with this post in the hopes that they'll come here, but you may need to go to their page. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:37, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

@Tokyogirl79:Thank you for notifying me. Although I have some knowledge of Greek, my writing skills in the language are quite poor. I suggest asking @Dr.K.: or @Cplakidas: who are respected and helpful users from Greece. As for German, the subject has been discussed many times at de:Diskussion:Vicky Leandros, I suggest letting a message there. Place Clichy (talk) 18:10, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

de:Korfu (Begriffsklärung)[edit]

Hey, PC, just to inform you: we wouldn't translate the name of a ship in German WP, so I changed it according to our conventions. The best. -- Pitichinaccio (talk) 17:29, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

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Duplicate categorization of Eastern Orthodox believers[edit]

Hey Place Clichy, you mentioned it's unnecessary to categorize Eastern Orthodox believers both by nationality and by jurisdiction: just by nationality should be enough. In fact I completely agree with you but it's a bit complex to realize. Just deleting the categories by jurisdiction is not an option because numerous of these articles are only in the jurisdiction category and not yet in the nationality category. So ideally we'd merge the categories by jurisdiction to the categories by nationality. But then the next problem is they do not always match. This is especially problematic for the Russian and Serbian jurisdiction after the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia fell apart. If you have an idea how to solve this, please go ahead. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:13, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

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Chrisianity in the middle east[edit]

Frankly, in this instance, yes. Just dropping out of the blue "christian palestinians face the same terrible oppression as their muslim brothers" is totally biased and out of place. This sentence is not only written as out of a propaganda piece, it's dropped as a complete non sequester and its 'source' is an opinion section of Al-jazeera.... seriously?

it's also quite ironic that the sentence was shoehorned in between statements about all the genocides, massacres and legal discrimination christians face in literally every other country in the middle east other than israel, perhaps the reason why the completely vague phrase "oppression" had to be used since the real details would have been too stark a contrast with the grim reality of neighbouring countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:E348:5180:5871:5D04:FC53:EA08 (talk) 09:48, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Chrisianity in the middle east 2[edit]

Also, considering any 'oppression' palestinians may face from Israel is totally national in nature, it has nothing to do with the article at all.

You might as well had "Saudi/Egyptian/yemeni/syrian/iraqi/lebanese/libyan/qatari/etc christians face the same government oppression as their muslim brothers". I mean that oppression is often a lot more severe than anything you'll see in palestine, and it's as valid a statement.

Are you starting to see how colossally stupid that sentence is in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:E348:5180:5871:5D04:FC53:EA08 (talk) 09:53, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Not all in Greece[edit]

Hey Place Clichy, which Greek city-states weren't in Greece? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:19, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Revert category change[edit]

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Former Turkish Province Of Yunanistan listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Non-Inscrits[edit]

It is not a good idea to add former Members in the normal Non-Inscrits table. Make for former members a different table if you want :)83.80.208.22 (talk) 10:24, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Janice Atkinson[edit]

Source added. She was sacked by UKIP, as such an Independent MEP. RoverTheBendInSussex (talk) 15:17, 16 June 2015 (GMT)

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Thoughts on the French-American Foundation article[edit]

Dear Place Clichy, You were correct to note that the claim of significance is present in the article. I see now that the bar is much lower than for Wikipedia:Notability, which I feel that neither it nor its French counterpart achieves at this point, absent significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. I tried, unsuccessfully, to remedy this problem by searching for anything written about the foundation in English from a reliable second or third-party source. (The French article cites a Parti de gauche website as its sole citation—probably not a reliable source and certainly not an indication of "significant coverage".) This led me to infer its non-notability. I'll look for your thoughts, here. Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 01:52, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Re Oriental Orthodox categories[edit]

Re Oriental Orthodox categories, the Wiki help (Interwiki links) doesen't seem to cover these interwiki links for categories, and non-European language wikis would be even more difficult. Hugo999 (talk) 12:47, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

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why don't you just create an article for one of the politicians?[edit]

You've added the hatnote twice with several months in between. Doesn't seem like anyone is biting. Why not create at least a stub yourself? Also, no need to DAB if no one even has energy to create the articles. There is only one subject by that name. Rikster2 (talk) 19:34, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Georgios Marinos[edit]

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☒N Deleted. It doesn't matter that it linked to extant articles on other wikis because disambiguation pages should not contain that type of interlanguage link anyway. larryv (talk) 21:05, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

commons issue[edit]

Hi. I'm from commons and i due all stuffs about Macedonia there. Can u tell me please why u remove the category Churches in the Republic of Macedonia from all macedonian churches?--R ašoAero-stub img.svg 12:48, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

@Raso mk: Hello! In general, when an element is placed in a subcategory, it does not need to be placed in redundant mother categories. This is explained at commons:COM:OVERCAT, for instance. As an example, if a category or image is in Category:Churches in Skopje, it does not need to be also in Category:Churches in the Republic of Macedonia, because Category:Churches in Skopje is a subcategory of Category:Churches in the Republic of Macedonia, so that would be redundant. Place Clichy (talk) 13:40, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Category:Churches in Skopje, is not subcategory of Category:Churches in the Republic of Macedonia but Category:Churches in the Republic of Macedonia by city. I understand, but the category was to show the whole number of churches. Its possible to revert the contributins? I need the whole number. If you revert, i will create i hidden cat with another name, and then you can erase the category Churches in the Republic of Macedonia again. Thanks--R ašoAero-stub img.svg 18:45, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
@Raso mk: Hello! Undoing all changes is not easy, but you can probably use a tool like CatScan to list all subcategories, or maybe Special:Categories. If you just want the number of subcategories, you can also just expand all the arrows and copy-paste the list in Excel or LibreOffice Calc to remove duplicates. What you apparently want to do (listing all churches of the Republic of Macedonia in one place) is more a List than a category actually, so categories may not be the best tool for you. Place Clichy (talk) 15:10, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

About Your Edits to the Pages Bacha Khan Poverty Alleviation Programme & Punjab Land Development Company ‎[edit]

Yeah, hi. I removed the category Pakistan federal departments and agencies from the above two pages, which you added. They are not departments or agencies of the Government of Pakistan. --113.203.149.37 (talk) 12:51, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

About Category:State corporations of Pakistan & Category:State owned enterprises of Pakistan[edit]

I see you are trying to merge them into Category:Government-owned companies of Pakistan. Why not just remove the pages from the above two category, and add them to the Government category? Then just request speedy deletion of the above two categories? Wouldn't that be quicker? --113.203.181.51 (talk) 18:41, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

École Polytechnique[edit]

I see that you restored some extremely substandard content to the encyclopaedia with this edit. In your summary you seemed confused as to why I had removed it. I did think that its total inadequacy was screamingly obvious to anyone who actually read it, but apparently not, so let me give you some reasons.

  1. It's written in poor English. Note how the very first sentence has a missing definite article
  2. It's formatted as a list. It should be in prose.
  3. It's written mostly in the present tense. It should obviously all be in the past tense
  4. It contains almost no actual encyclopaedic content. I do believe that more than three important things happened there during the 19th century.

I removed it on 4 July, but it was restored by someone for no good reason. I removed it again, and now you've put it back for no good reason. I was planning to rewrite it, but as this content is fine by you, I won't bother. You can keep the article like this and feel as proud as you like of it. 217.158.174.226 (talk) 08:14, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

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The word "sixth-form" and the French educational system[edit]

Hi! I used "sixth-form" in the French lycee templates because the city of Paris used "sixth-form" as a translation for lycee: http://www.webcitation.org/6Ab4dRjru (collège was translated as "high school" in reference to the British use of the word) - This translation is still used as of writing: http://next.paris.fr/english/guide-for-foreign-residents/the-necessary-steps-to-settling-in/children-families/rub_8145_stand_33668_port_18796

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Flag of Athens[edit]

Just for your information: The flag I removed was an earlier version, where the blue was far from correct, as you can see. And yes, I did take my concern to the author of the file, and they have made the current version. Actually I am not completely convinced that the new file is completely correct, either. I think the blue in the flag probably should be the same as the blue in the seal, but at least it is not conspicuously wrong now. Regards! --T*U (talk) 19:12, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Reformed church buildings[edit]

The recent CFD discussion that I mentioned is here. So it distinguishes congregations from bricks and mortar. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:20, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

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BRD[edit]

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Greek Catholic[edit]

Hello. I see that you recently redirected Greek Catholic and Greek Catholic Church to a disambiguation page. Please can you fix the resulting mis-directed links? There are about 730 wikilinks from mainspace, but some of those can be fixed by editing a few templates such as {{Religion in Turkey}}. As the terms listed on the dab are confusingly similar, it is difficult for the layman to help and this task really needs a subject expert such as yourself. Thanks, Certes (talk) 09:31, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@Certes: It is indeed a work in progress. Most incoming links to Greek Catholic Church or a version thereof should be changed to a better target, precisely because the term is ambiguous. I shall correct them myself if others don't do it before me. In many cases it is not difficult to find the right target, and in any case much better than leaving a link to a wrong page having nothing to do with the topic, such as Slovak Catholic Eparchy of Saints Cyril and Methodius of Toronto linking to Byzantine Catholics, itself redirecting to Greek Byzantine Catholic Church, which is a Church in the country of Greece having nothing to do with Slovakia! The correct link there should be, for instance, Slovak Greek Catholic Church.
{{Religion in Turkey}} is full of links to redirects (which should be avoided per WP:BRINT) or generic terms having nothing to do with Turkey while easily-found equivalents are available (why link to Catholic or Latin Catholic instead of Catholic Church in Turkey?). It can no doubt be improved. The main link for Greek Catholic topics in Turkey seems to be Greek Catholic Apostolic Exarchate of Istanbul, although there is also a Melkite jurisdiction. You may be inspired by links found at Category:Religion in Turkey and subcategories, or link to the categories themselves when there is no dedicated article. Place Clichy (talk) 09:59, 19 September 2018 (UTC)