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RfC - Helper Script access[edit]

An RfC has been opened at RfC to physically restrict access to the Helper Script. You are invited to comment. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:24, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Commented Bellerophon talk to me 18:45, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

The Deletion of the Article on Luiz Palhares[edit]

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your comments on behalf of the article I wrote on Mr. Palhares. Both Mr. Palhares and I were disappointed that Mr. Palhares accomplishments were deemed not notable enough to warrant an article. As was noted in the closing comments it was a borderline case. As this was my first Wikipedia article I was certainly disappointed on that front as well.

I was in Jacksonville Florida on business recently and stopped in to meet Mr. Palhares at his facility. I asked him if he was aware of any further documentation I could site to support a claim of notability. He provided me with a number of plaques and citations he has received over the last 35 years from the Gracie family and others for his work in helping Brazilian jiu-jitsu grow into what it is today. (Mr. Palhares is considered in jiu-jitsu circles as one of the first generation to popularize the art around the world.) I have attached photographs of these citations from Charles Gracie, Royce Gracie, Dan Inosanto, and The Special Forces in support of his notability. I told him I didn't think such items would be the sort of thing that could serve as adequate references for Wikipedia. I submit them for your consideration as I am not familiar with the rules that govern such things on Wikipedia. I don't want to ask for a Deletion Review and waste peoples time if these items can't be submitted to support a claim of notability.

Thank you Sciambro Sciambro (talk) 18:13, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello Sciambro. You're welcome. The images you tried to add were not uploaded becuase your account has not yet achieved autoconfirmed status, which is required to upload media. However, from your desription of them I believe that you are right that they would not help Palhares' claim of notability. If the article is to be recreated we will need to provide evidence of significant coverage of Palhares in independent published sources (such as widely circulated magazines, published books [preferably in English], Newspapers etc.) and there must be several of them. Bellerophon talk to me 18:26, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

MoD Police[edit]

Whatever the UK does or does not recognize is irrelevant, They are what they are IAW Ministry_of_Defence_Police_Act_1987 which limits their general authority to Defense Estates except by MOU's et al with local forces or in case of dire emergency> Did you even read the article in question?--Degen Earthfast (talk) 00:45, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

@Degen Earthfast: Actually, I wrote most of the article in question. You're description of their authority is rather naive. It is not irrelevant that you have labeled a police force according to a term with is meaningless in the context of the subject concerned. That's like saying "I can describe the Palace of Westminster as a place of federal government". It's complete nonsense. In any case, I would be happy with describing them in the opening sentence as:
Are either of those acceptable to you? Bellerophon talk to me 00:58, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

One, get off your high horse, two, as a retired USAF Security Police Officer with 30 (on and off) experience working alongside said MoD Police at places like RAF's Bolton Wood, Leakenheath, Mildenhall, and Sculthorpe, amongst others. I have worked with them no matter what whimsical MoD plan decided to do with them AND most of the ones that I still know and commune with refer to themselves as glorified security guards. They are for all practical intents and purposes security police. You know, civil police working for a government agency primarily to protect it's property. Like me.--Degen Earthfast (talk) 01:21, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Funnily, being stationed on Sculthorpe had it's problems as we had no billets and thus shared Block/billets on RAF West Raynum with the RAF Police. Transporting weapons back and forth was somewhat problematical due to the UK's anti-gun laws.--Degen Earthfast (talk) 01:36, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Any response I was about to give you is made irrelevant by the fact that User:Rob984 reverted Degen 2½ hours ago, i.e. when I was asleep. Nyttend (talk) 14:18, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Noted. Thanks for the message. Bellerophon talk to me 14:21, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome. I was leaning against doing it, because from my outsider perspective it didn't seem like something that warranted my involvement, i.e. the only reason to sanction Degen would be for edit-warring. I closed the ANI thread simply to prevent the possibility of reaching different conclusions in parallel discussions, since it was at both ANI and AN3. I stand by my statement at AN3, that if he makes a single additional reversion, a block will be warranted. Nyttend (talk) 14:30, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Black mamba[edit]

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Image question[edit]

Hi, and I hope you’re able to help me.

I have been successfully uploading images onto Wikimedia Commons since 2010, without difficulty.

I’ve recently been informed that some of the photographs I have uploaded over the last few months would be deleted unless I could verify their copyright status. The messages looked like this:

I went into each image and the copyright was shown as {{own}} so I could not see the problem. Trying to use the help facility I went round and round in circles and it was very unhelpful and frustrating. I did change {{own}} to {{self photographed}} on each image just so a change could be seen and received each of them, but they have now been deleted.

At the beginning of my talk page I’m welcomed by Jimmy Pitt, but he has since retired, so I cannot contact him:

Welcome, MrArmstrong2! Hello, MrArmstrong2, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions! I'm Jimmy Pitt, one of the many editors here, and I hope you'll like it here enough to decide to stay.

This media was probably deleted. A file that you have uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, File:William Algernon Churchill in 1921 aged 56.JPG, was missing information about where it comes from or who created it, which is needed to verify its copyright status. The file probably has been deleted. If you've got all required information, request undeletion providing this information and the link to the concerned file (File:William Algernon Churchill in 1921 aged 56.JPG). If you created the content yourself, enter {{own}} as the source. If you did not add a licensing template, you must add one. You may use, for example, {{self}} or {{Cc-zero}} to release certain rights to your work.

If someone else created the content, or if it is based on someone else's work, the source should be the address to the web page where you found it, the name and ISBN of the book you scanned it from, or similar. You should also name the author, provide verifiable information to show that the content is in the public domain or has been published under a free license by its author, and add an appropriate template identifying the public domain or licensing status, if you have not already done so.

Please add the required information for this and other files you have uploaded before adding more files. If you need assistance, please ask at the help desk. Thank you!

Although I am a proficient HTML programmer there are aspects of Wikipedia which I find very frustrating and the code on images is one of the least friendly, and it's not at all clear how you edit it:

I would be most grateful if you can let me know what I’m doing wrong as far as assigning freedom of use to each of the images is concerned. MrArmstrong2 (talk) 17:09, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

The file was deleted on commons by Fastily. You really need to be taking this up on commons rather than Wikipedia. From a brief look at events though it would appear that there was no source specified for the image. Bellerophon talk to me 11:26, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on WP:AN#Closure review: Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC to physically restrict access to the Helper Script[edit]

Hello! You have been selected to receive an invitation to participate in the closure review for the recent RfC regarding the AfC Helper script. You've been chosen because you participated in the original RfC. Should you wish to respond, your contribution to this discussion will be appreciated. This message is automated. Replies will not be noticed. --QEDKTC 14:20, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


Dear Bellerophon,

Why am I being accused of sock puppetry? This is the only Wikipedia account I have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RedSasori15 (talkcontribs) 07:03, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Because the behavioural pattern of your editing strongly suggests a connection with another banned user. A checkuser report may be able to confirm or dismiss that connection. Bellerophon talk to me 09:22, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Question about Ghaleb Husseini[edit]

Hello Bellerophon,

thank you for being so gentle to the newbie :D so I rewrote most of the article. Sorry about the copying, I meant to refine the article later. Please tell me what you think about it now (btw it is posted on the talk page now as instructed). Also, do you have any idea on how I can put up a picture online for him. I put a picture earlier and it was taken down for copyrights. The website I took it from was from a school's magazine which I didn't think would have strict copyrights. Here is a link to the picture:

THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT HELP :) Kind Regards, Pierre Kawak Pierre Kawak (talk) 02:41, 3 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pierre Kawak (talkcontribs) 02:26, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Pierre, you're welcome. I've moved your rewritten text to the main draft page, the draft is off to a good start but there a few more improvements I would like to see made before it is accepted. There are quite a few third-party sources available on the internet that discuss Husseini. It is important that Wikipedia articles contain references to third-party sources in order that we can evidence that someone has received the attention of others. References in newspapers, magazine interviews etc are all good for that purpose. Please try and locate some of these types of sources and add them to the draft. Here's one example:
On the subject of sourcing, it will also help the article, and other readers of Wikipedia, if you use more detailed citations for the references in the draft. See WP:INTREF for an introduction to referencing and WP:Citation templates for some specific citation templates for various types of sources. details citations are important to prevent WP:LINKROT. Bellerophon talk to me 02:50, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Black mamba[edit]

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@FunkMonk: Thankyou very much for your patience and guidance with this. It's been an enjoyable learning experience :) Bellerophon talk to me 12:05, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome, keep them coming! FunkMonk (talk) 15:17, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Andrew Korda[edit]

Hello there! I stumbled upon this article a few days back, and was bold enough to attempt a copy edit in my sandbox. Given you performed some edits on this article before, could you leave me some feedback? It's been tough finding non-primary sources, I have to say. Anyway, thanks for your help, CesareAngelotti (talk) 15:37, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

@CesareAngelotti: No problem, I have made a couple of concisions to the text in the career section, which looks fine now. However, the 'early life' and 'personal life' sections are problematical because they are entirely unsourced (with the exception of the reference showing he donates money to classical music causes). Where has this information come from? I'm not so concerned about this information being cited to non-primary sources, a primary source would be fine for the biographical information as there is nothing controversial about it. But it needs some kind of source per WP:BLP. Also, the Urogynaecology section is essentially entirely unsourced. The one ref there makes brief mention of Korda's view on young people experiencing incontinence, but nothing more. Lastly, I would rename the Bibliography section to "Selected publications" and remove any they he didn't author or was not the lead editor on. Hope that helps? Bellerophon talk to me 16:07, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for that! I understand that perfectly. I think I took the info from some obscure old ABC interview transcript somewhere...I'll see if I can find it again. With the internet not paying much attention to non-celebrities, this takes a lot more time than it should. Thank you very much for the help, CesareAngelotti (talk) 16:27, 3 March 2015 (UTC)