User talk:Ponyo

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Page protection[edit]

Dear Ponyo,

May I ask you to protect the page Fatmagül'ün Suçu Ne? for at least one week? Reasons for the request as follows, restoring of overflag, overlink, abundant and unrelated edits to the article itself. As always, thank you... Mona778 (talk) 23:57, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Strange! I haven't gotten any reply... Mona778 (talk) 21:29, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Sorry Mona, you left your message at the same time my talk page was being vandalized and I missed your message. There haven't been enough disruptive edits to the article to protect it in accordance with the protection policy (just two IPs in the last 10 days). --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:43, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
No problem my dear, it happens sometimes! By the way, have you noticed the new copyvio picture added to Serenay Sarıkaya's page? Regards.--Mona778 (talk) 22:12, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Now that's an issue I can actually help with. I've removed the image and tagged it for speedy deletion at Commons.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:24, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

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Karisma Kapoor[edit]

119.160.x.x looks like a sockpuppet to me. Please confirm and protect the page.- Managerarctalk 21:19, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Done!--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:27, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Why did you delete my Donavan Brazier article[edit]

With a 1:45.93 victory, Brazier broke the 34-year-standing American junior indoor record of 1:47.84 set by Villanova's John Marshall in 1982. Brazier is now sixth on the American indoor list and is the second fastest collegiate runner. Additionally, his performance broke the Aggies’ school record of 1:47.14 set by Joey Roberts in 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kville10 (talkcontribs) 14:07, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

@Kville10: I left a detailed explanation on your talk page yesterday, along with instructions for creating the article via the Article Wizard if the subject meets the notability criteria I linked to in my message.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 15:54, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


Hi Ponyo, any chance you could look into 7upNimboozMasalaSoda as being a sock of WillShowU? WillShowU was the last sock to edit 24 (2016 film). 7up created his account 10 days ago, but didn't edit until yesterday when he made exactly 10 edits at 7 Up. That's got sock all over it. Thank you, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:01, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

It is indeed WillShowU. I've blocked and tagged the account.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:07, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Thanks for checking! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:47, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Edit of Well Known Tone Deaf People[edit]

While you may consider what I posted to be an opinion, it is in fact an informed observation. I provided specific evidence, though I guess Youtube is not considered a valid source. The video shows a man with two in-ear monitors unable to match pitch with a recorded track. That is by definition tone deafness. I also made sure to double check all available definitions of the condition both on Wikipedia and elsewhere before editing. I have a music degree and host a critical music podcast, and my goal is to educate the public about music and musicians in ways that are completely ignored or simply unexamined by the commercial discourse-free media. If you still insist this is not appropriate for wikipedia I understand, but I doubt if any expert on the subject was ever even asked they would tell you the same. Kanye West is tone deaf. I would have happily provided all this information (though again, it is evident in the performance video and many other examples) but it didn't seem to fit the format, so I tried to reference the most clear example of public record, but there are many more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yourmusicisbad (talkcontribs) 06:12, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

What you are describing is original research. If the information is correct, to be included in the list you would need to provide reliable sources that actually state that West is tone deaf.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:54, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

So my "original research" is invalid because it is original and unpublished? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yourmusicisbad (talkcontribs) 20:40, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]


Ponyo! I'm watching Ponyo!

Drmies (talk) 00:58, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

  • Oh this could get dangerous. Drmies (talk) 01:12, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
  • You can talk?!? Drmies (talk) 01:29, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
@Drmies: Excellent, another kitten for Darwinbish's army! Wait, you're not going to username block me are you?!--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 19:14, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
  • No, my dear Ponyo, since you are a goddess. Nice movie you're in! Drmies (talk) 20:42, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Clairvoyance is my goddess specialty; I created my account 2 years and 5 months prior to the North American film release. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:49, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Trackless trolley sock.[edit]

Sock it may be, but there's a certain amount of truth to its position. "Invention" is a little strong, but a lot of the early development was by Siemens. Anmccaff (talk) 01:23, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

If only their edits weren't so POV and overreaching. If you see any of my sock reverts that you think should have stuck please feel free to restore them.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 19:18, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks as always[edit]

Thanks as always for being on the stick with the latest Nagendra sock. Face-smile.svg Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:37, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

It's a gnarly twisted paid editing sockfest. So...intensely...painful. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 19:20, 8 June 2016 (UTC)


Hi Ponyo, thank's for your investigation here. I think I have just found another set of accounts, including another sockmaster, linked to Eulalefty. However they are all stale. Is it worth reporting them?--Peaceworld 09:47, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

@Peaceworld111:, I can take a look at the accounts if you want to just name them here instead of opening a new SPI for stale accounts.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 15:59, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
Ok, Thanks, that makes life easier. Here are the accounts: Moorrests; Teaksmitty whose blocked sock is Batsgasps as archived in [1].--Peaceworld 18:06, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I don't know if this is an exaggeration, but Eulalefty's sock does admit that he or she has been editing for the "past decade" on the article Science [2]. There may be more accounts.--Peaceworld 18:10, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I've blocked Moorrests and Teaksmitty as it's obviously the same user as Eulalefty. This makes Teaksmitty the master, though I don't see any benefit in retagging and renaming everything based on a couple of stale accounts that can't be checkusered.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 18:41, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Saptrishi Ghosh[edit]

Hi Ponyo, thanks for dealing with the Amitbhb12 sock. I noticed you salted the article--are there any tools available that will notify me when a derivative article like "Saptrishi Ghosh (actor)" is created? Seems like that would be a useful tool... Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:21, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

I wish! The only option I'm aware of is to watchlist the most likely title creations. Draft:Saptrishi Ghosh seems a likely candidate. Any similarly named creations in user space will hopefully lead a new page reviewer to try to move it from a dab title to the primary topic and notice it's been salted, so there are a few hurdles in trying to recreate that article in main space.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:28, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


Do a checkuser check on user:Poopyfarts298 and user:Poopypeefartbutts both of whom vandalized wp:aiv at different times today. block the vandal's IP address. 2602:306:3357:BA0:8DB8:C6E6:5396:67C7 (talk) 20:33, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)They are sock of a known vandal. No sense in performing a CU as they create throwaway accounts. WP:RBI works for them. RickinBaltimore (talk) 20:34, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
(edit conflict) If the vandal had a stable IP address autoblock would take care of them. As it stands they have multiple IPs/ranges at their disposal and they are creating accounts consecutively, not concurrently, so checkuser is of little help. This is a known vandal and WP:RBI applies.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:40, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
I think if you actually try to do a CU on them, you will find their IP address. 2602:306:3357:BA0:8DB8:C6E6:5396:67C7 (talk) 20:38, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Hey RickinBaltimore, I think I just mind-melded with you! Our answers are shockingly similar... --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:41, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
You mean what you said here? Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Tikeem cumberbatch uttp tcgp own/Archive? RickinBaltimore (talk) 20:42, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Holy crap, you mean people actually listen to me?! This changes everything!--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:43, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Interesting fellow...[edit]

Well now Deepak rahi has a very interesting user page, down to the photo of his login screen at Fame Communications (if my eyes are reading that correctly.) I guess he's doing the right thing by declaring his employer... Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:09, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

I notice several intersections with Sumit naithani SD, but I'm not ready to pursue for SPI yet. It's the weekend... Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:14, 11 June 2016 (UTC)


I'm sorry for my excessive vandalism in the past. Most of it was intentional as I don't like how a lot of famous people are American so I changed their nationalities to cheer me up despite knowing the consequences. The unintentional disruption was due to a lack of referencing. I'm not use to referencing because it's too complicated and too much for me to do. I'll never do it again thank you. Edunk5 (talk) 18:43, 11 June 2016 (UTC).

I'm not sure how you can attest that your edits were both intentionally and unintentionally disruptive, however as long as you abide by the policies and guidelines provided on your talk page you should be fine. You may find this link useful. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:43, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
I got depressed which is I reverted back to my bad habits. It's like drug addiction. It's very clear that Alex Hirsch is of German descent even without sourcing because his surname is clearly of German origin. Because you threatening me with another block, I'll stop and this time for good. Edunk5 (talk) 15:54, 21 June 2016 (UTC).


Do a checkuser check on user:Vegasceltics55 and user:Lakerlover6969 and block the IP address. 2602:306:3357:BA0:4021:617C:E657:19B8 (talk) 01:41, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Please review the instructions for opening a case at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations. Note the caveat "Due to Wikipedia's CheckUser policy, CheckUsers will conduct a technical investigation only if clear, behavioural evidence of sock puppetry is also submitted; if you ask for technical evidence to be looked at but do not provide behavioural evidence, the investigation may not be allowed to proceed." On a separate note, given that this is the second time you have demanded rather than requested my assistance, a simple "please" works wonders when interacting with others here.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 18:55, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Could you make a Donavan Brazier article for me?[edit]

Donavan is a good friend of mine from Michigan and he is on a historic rise and I feel people should know about him. He just shattered the NCAA Record for the 800 last week. He is currently the fastest in the country at just the age of 19. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kville10 (talkcontribs) 14:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

@Kville10: You can request an article be created under the appropriate topic heading here, though if the subject does not meet our notability criteria it won't be created.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 19:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Talk page abuse[edit]

user: is abusing her talk page. CLCStudent (talk) 20:56, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

As they're just continuing the same disruption in their userspace as they were in articles, I pulled their talk page access. It's clear they don't intend to request an unblock.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:06, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
You did? How come they managed this, etc., etc...? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:41, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Apparently I only changed the block message without actually checking the "Prevent this user from editing their own talk page while blocked" box, which isn't particularly helpful. An admin who was much more on the ball than I has taken care of it.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 15:45, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
That Talk Page was getting more change than Frankie Boyle's swear box piggy bank. But luckily Bish calmed everything down, and Rex reminded me what one can and can’t do to blocked user’s Talk Pages. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:04, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

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Mass deletion of pages added by X-Men Xtreme[edit]

You deleted pages created by the sockpuppet X-Men Xtreme, but there are three articles which the sockpuppet moved, so you just deleted the redirects created on moving, not the articles. You may like to delete those articles. They are 1937 Laetitia Toureaux murder, 1929 Netta Fornario murder and Murder of Gregory Villemin. Also, there's Eleonore Zugun, which you didn't delete, although it was not moved. I don't know whether you had a reason for deliberately not deleting it or whether it was a mistake. The king of the sun (talk) 14:57, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

I've now deleted Murder of Gregory Villemin as there were no substantial edits outside of the sock account's. I'll leave 1937 Laetitia Toureaux murder as there are some keep votes at the related AfD; the community can decide whether they want the article kept. Eleonore Zugun has more involvement by others (see also the article talk page), so I'll leave that one as well. 1929 Netta Fornario murder is heading for deletion at AfD, which would make it potentially deleteable under CSD G4 and CSD G5 moving forward. It's due to be closed today.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 15:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Return of a problem[edit]

Hello Ponyo. The Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/ problematic editor from Northern Ireland is still around. As you can see at (talk · contribs) they mostly ask innocuous/inane questions at various ref desks. Yesterday they made this edit which returns to their obsession so a block might be needed to prevent more editing like this. As ever thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 17:40, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Got it!--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:24, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you! MarnetteD|Talk 22:18, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Jessica Lucas redux[edit]

Hi Ponyo! User:Zhyboo is back at it at Jessica Lucas adding unreferenced bio info. As I don't seem to be making any headway here, it might be better if it comes from an Admin this time. TIA. --IJBall (contribstalk) 20:52, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

I've left a note on their talk page.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:30, 20 June 2016 (UTC)


User NorthbySouthBaranof is User Dumuzid. It is patently obvious and if you check their edit histories you will see exactly what I mean. Who do I go to to have this checked? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:37, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

You can log into your account (but not from your open proxy I just blocked) and start an SPI. Assuming you're not evading a block, of course.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 16:10, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
I know we're not supposed to request checks on ourselves, but Bishonen suggested I might politely ask all the same. Suffice it to say, if you were in the mood to run a checkuser, I would be grateful and would happily assist in any way I could. If not, whether for policy or any other reason, I certainly understand. Thanks! Dumuzid (talk) 11:58, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi Dumuzid, it's actually against local Checkuser policy on Wikipedia to check a user at their request. Per WP:CHK On some Wikimedia projects, an editor's IP addresses may be checked upon his or her request, typically to prove innocence against a sockpuppet allegation. Such checks are not allowed on the English Wikipedia and such requests will not be granted.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:06, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Widr gets grounded[edit]

I just deleted this page, which you previously deleted as created in violation of a block or ban. It was recreated by Oh ohhhh919 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • edit filter log • block user • block log). Another block evader? Mjroots (talk) 20:51, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Widr has already indeffed, Mjroots (talk) 20:54, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
So much gets taken care of while I'm away. I should make it a habit!--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:07, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Block of[edit]

I noticed you placed a temporary, 3-month block on (talk · contribs · WHOIS) for abuse of block evasion. What is the grounds for this block, given that the only sockpuppet investigation against this IP was closed as inconclusive by Vanjagenije? And why is the block only temporary? Ibadibam (talk) 21:28, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

@Ibadibam: No, actually, after I closed it as inconclusive, I left new message on which I wrote " seams to be him" and I blocked the IP at the same time [3]. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:32, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
(edit conflict) The evidence against the named account MSDIS was closed as inconclusive. The IP itself is clearly being used by the same editor as WCVB98swell socks such as WarnerFX and ComcastVivendi and was blocked accordingly. The reason it's not an indefinite block is that we very rarely block IPs indefinitely.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:43, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Possible ring edits[edit]

Hi Ponyo, I've got a situation here I was hoping you could look at. User Abmisal caught my eye for some questionable edits, and as I poke through his history, I notice him editing two different drafts on the same guy, Draft:Akash Thosar and Draft:Akash thosar (lower cast T is the difference). The first article is created by a Babbu jag who appears to be an SPA. As I poke around some more, I find that Akash Thosar was already AfDed to extinction, with several attempts to recreate the article. Chetank9982 is one of the creators of that article, and it looks like Kunal korde may have also attempted it. (Though it doesn't appear in his article creation list) Needless to say, if a non-notable guy is getting this much attention, it very well could be because of a marketing ring. If you could look into that, I'd appreciate it. I also notice Darshangouda edited the deleted page. That was a Nagendra NJ sock. Not sure if that's a coincidence, though.

Also, is there an easy way to figure out all the people who created an article? The undelete page isn't very helpful. Thank you! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:07, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Oh goodie, endlessly convoluted Indian celebrity paid editing rings. My favourite! <groans>. I only have about 15 minutes to spare and I imagine this will take much longer than that, so I'll take a look tomorrow (unless one of the very kind and compassionate Checkusers watching this page takes a look before I get back).--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 23:12, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
@Cyphoidbomb: There were a few obvious socks hanging about. Some were clearly connected to other blocked socks; I've blocked the most blatant accounts and G5'ed some of their contributions. A couple of the articles have evolved beyond being speedy-able. Other accounts were obviously related to each other without being specifically tied to an obvious master. All in all, a typical paid-editing smorgasbord of socks. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:22, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
LOLing at your first reply. Sorry about the endlessly convoluted Indian celebrity paid editing ring investigative work. Face-smile.svg Thanks for the help and the endless cleanup! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:09, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Blocked IP[edit]

You imposed a three month block on, apparently for block evasion. If you care to look at Isopoda and its talk page, I think you will see that is the same editor. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:39, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

It's obviously the same user, so I've blocked the IP.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 16:15, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
This editor is back again at Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:30, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
He only used that IP briefly, so blocking it now would have no effect. Let me know if you see them pop up elsewhere.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 18:52, 4 July 2016 (UTC)


Will it be a new sockpuppet of Waldemar15 ? Regards! -- --Sofree (talk) 06:09, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Sofree. I blocked the account as well as a bunch of  Technically indistinguishable sleepers (Schiaaney, Achieme, Keebpoesy, Adsolon, Arsenio3, Axonce, Covervisit II, Incress, and Aldiment).--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 19:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/KnightWarrior25[edit]

Requesting urgent attention as it goes stale in just one day. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 12:23, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

I have no idea why you think it would be stale in a day. Regardless, it looks like the ever-present and helpful Bbb23 has run a check.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 18:50, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Checkuser check[edit]

Please do a checkuser check on user:Fuck the Golden State Warriors! Sincerely, Tikeem and user:TikeemIsMyWorld and block the IP address where those accounts originate. 2602:306:3357:BA0:B919:A583:2133:8AAF (talk) 04:47, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

There's no point in running a check, they'll just cycle to a new range to continue creating accounts. The quickest route to stopping them is WP:AIV.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 19:16, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

In relation to User talk:Spartacus!#I am suddenly unable to edit Wikipedia[edit]

How someone can get auto-blocked using IP of a serial socker such as Undertrialryryr. You blocked X-Men Xtreme as Undertrialryryr sock who is a very sneaky socker. Are you sure there is nothing more serious going on beyond just an occasional auto-block? Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 08:10, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) As Ponyo said on my talk page, My IP is a dynamic IP and thus my account was caught in an autoblock. Regarding "How someone can get auto-blocked" read WP:AUTOBLOCK Spartacus! (talk) 09:08, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia sockpuppets of Sarojupreti[edit]

Hi Pony, sarojupreti is using more than 8 accounts. Currently he is using Beebek Bhurtel which is So Please investige about this problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bollywood Nude (talkcontribs)

Please help to stop this madness![edit]

Dear Ponyo,

I need to ask for your help to put an end to this madness that has started since a few of days ago by these two users who are harassing me day in day out at my talk page. I asked them politely to stay away from me, but it seems they don't heed my call! Please help me. Thank you so much, Mona778 (talk) 21:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

You and Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi need to stop templating each other. Class455fan1's ironic "final warning" template certainly didn't help matters. If you all just walk away from this silliness, this storm in a teacup with disappear.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:03, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
I gave Mona778 a final warning as I saw the warnings left at Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi's talk, and they were a misuse as FIM had clearly done nothing wrong, and counted as harassing FIM, if you saw what I wrote under the warning. However, instead of taking my advice, Mona then took it upon herself to give me a final warning for "Personally Attacking her" which I didn't do. You can clearly see what I wrote at her talk was not personally attacking her so this is again another misuse of a warning template. I was really considering to take Mona778 to AN/I until I saw this thread, because continuously warning people when for no reason when they warn her is not on and in my books counts as harassment! Thank you Class455fan1 (talk) 22:20, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
You jumping in by templating an editor for templating an editor isn't going to do anything to diffuse the two parties' frustrated feelings. If everyone just stops templating each other then the entire situation goes away and you can all go back to doing the good work that you do here. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:31, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
I'll do as you advised my very dear. With kind regards, Mona778 (talk) 22:42, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for that, however can you please tell if I did leave a "personal attack" on her talk page? Just want to know if it was considered a personal attack in your books in case I need to take a different stance when giving people a note of advice in future. I am not here to attack people, I am here to edit the encyclopaedia, that's why I'm a little bit peed off with that false warning she gave. Thanks! Class455fan1 (talk) 22:37, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
This all came about from this minor incident that appears to be based on miscommunication. It was exacerbated by continued miscommunication (or more accurately lack of communication through the gratuitous templating). If someone feels they are being personally targeted for doing what they believe was the right thing at the time they will often lash out. Labelling your message as a personal attack was over the top, but so was the entire back and forth. So everyone just needs to take a deep breath and a sip of tea and all will be well. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:48, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Are they supposed to drink from the same teacup that had the storm in it? The British (or Britis-ish) think that tea solves everything. I knew this rabid dog once. Gave him some tea. Still rabid. Had no effect. I even put milk in it.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:58, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
That's because you forgot the sugar, sugar.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 23:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Bbb23, with rabid dogs you really want to try opium-laced honey cakes. It's classic. Drmies (talk) 12:14, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Editing SPI archives[edit]

Hi there and thank you for taking care of that troublesome sock. But I'm really wondering what's wrong with adding an informal notice to the SPI archive [4]. Uanfala (talk) 17:35, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

SPIs are archived once they have been closed and are immutable from that point forward (this is the same for any archived talk or noticeboard page as it is a record of how the page appeared at the time of archiving). If you would like to open a new report for a particular sock you just need to click "How to open an investigation", put their name in the box, and click submit. Once the new report is closed it will then be added to the rolling archive.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:44, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
So it's a question of procedure and there isn't any inherent harm in editing the archive? Opening a new case would be pointless as it will now be, for all practical purposes, closed. But there has to be some way of leaving a record of that (other than adding the relevant category to the user's page). I thought the archive was ideal, given its chronological organisation. And I think it's obvious why there should be such a clear and visible record. Given the subtle and covert mess that socks sometimes leave behind, there should be a away of making the newly discovered sock known to whoever has been involved with previous socks (I've assumed they'd have the relevant SPI archive in their watchlist) and whoever will deal with possible future socks. Any ideas? Uanfala (talk) 18:31, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
In my opinion no additional activity is required, or I would have opened a new SPI myself noting the block. The tag puts the account into the appropriate sock category for anyone who is interested. Many people don't watch archives as nothing is supposed to be added to them that does not first appear in the main SPI report, which is much more likely to be on their watchlist. If you disagree, then please feel free to open the SPI and I will go ahead and close it for you and it will be added to the archive.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 18:53, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I've opened it at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Admirenepal. Uanfala (talk) 11:35, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Armand Carrara deletion[edit]

Armand Carrara is in fact an artists signed to VIP Music Records his music can be found in Spotify

In the official YouTube channel of VIP Music Records

Maybe the artists in the past (2012) tried to do something himself but this no means he in fact where no an artists we can provide enough and valid information about the artist and his music I will like you to reconsider the deletion of his page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inuevayork (talkcontribs) 22:42, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

hey Jezebel's I am no a part of VIP Music yes I did created both pages as I get information but in fact don't means that I am a part and I am providing in fact valid sources is there a way we can appeal it? If no is actually fine, but as I say I provide valid information about it, and I should add since I re read your comment I am no getting pay for this writing but I am actually following the work of the company and doing what I can to keep updated with information, but if you think this is no relevant at all well you have more knowledge than me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inuevayork (talkcontribs)

  • Given your contribution history from 2012 through today is solely to promote VIP Music Records and its artists, I simply don't believe that you are unaffiliated with them. Your repeated use of "we" certainly doesn't bode well either. I'm sure if one was inclined to take a closer look they would find that you appear to be creating and maintaining a walled garden to promote a specific company's artists. I don't intend to help you in that endeavour. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 23:06, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

is sad that because I created 4 pages 3 actives and one deleted plus one artists compete unrelated you think I am a part and yes I do use the word "we", is something that I always do but is no me beginning a part, so for example let me just get more info so I don't do mistakes I was planing to create or propose an article for LUIS Almonte a Latin producer who is the main producer for Miguelito MTO / also produce for Vico C, daddy Yankee, el Voceteo and many other artists he is unrelated to any of the stuff I been talking but is this maybe can considers a wrong doing? If so I will ask you how do I propose this kind of articles to be writed? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inuevayork (talkcontribs)

  • I would suggest that if you create any additional articles you do so via the article wizard or the Articles for Creation process. This will allow other users to vet the quality of the sources and ensure the subjects meet our notability criteria.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 23:28, 5 July 2016 (UTC) also I Just read about wallet garden but those articles are no wallet garden have you see each of them have valid sources and no just link between them I maybe mistake adding links to the other pages but I did because Wikipedia them say is orphan.

Thanks for the info will read how to do or use those tools you mention thanks again.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Inuevayork (talkcontribs)

Hey got one question did my account got deleted?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Inuevayork (talkcontribs)

A cookie for you![edit]

Dear Ponyo, I will never forget your kindness as long as I live. With kind regards, Mona778 (talk) 18:46, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Need Help Creating a Page and stop from deletion and banned.[edit]

Hello Ponyo!

As you may know, I am trying to create a page about a musician (who is not me, as I can provide proof) and it keeps getting deleted even though I’ve revised it multiple times and added sources and now it’s locked. Could you help me meet the requirements to make it on wiki such as revision and anything else it may need? I am not trying to promote or advertise this musician (who is not me), just an autobiography as I really do think this person matters. I have the article saved.


(Mrsunshine93 (talk) 20:53, 6 July 2016 (UTC))

  • I have to again ask you if you've read the messages and associated links provided on your talk page, most specifically WP:NOTPROMOTION. You created the article five times without regard to our policies and that is why the article is now locked from being recreated. If you believe that using sentences such as " Jaden Smith announced him in January to be a big hit in 2016" (which is completely irrelevant), "certain people had caught their eye of Waltz's talents" and "he has gotten a lot of attention from his brilliance of his work" in the article and ending with an incredibly self-serving quote is not "trying to promote or advertise this musician" as you state above, then you really need not to be the person creating it.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:07, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll edit the article and make sure that it meets the NOTPROMOTION requirements and other policies. I apologize for without regard and any frustration that I may caused. This is my first article and eager.

Thanks for the advice :)

Mrsunshine93 (talk) 21:39, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Please read the notability requirements for inclusion before doing anything further; I have serious doubts that Jon Waltz meets them even if a non-promotional draft were to be produced.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:42, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


I've got a funky feeling about MesopotemianVulture. Brand new user, and within two days is an expert on POV editing? Funky! Just wanted to briefly rant... Face-smile.svg Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:17, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Damn! I deliberately went out of the way to avoid dissing his beloved cat! (Wish I coulda met the little fella...) Thanks for looking into this and taking care of it, Ponyo! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:16, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Ponyo me lad.[edit]

One time i edited Katie Leung to say "Katie Leung is a Chinese/Scottish actress" but then i made a mistake and added her nationality and now i need to fix it (along with the categories).

Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:23, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello P. I know that you are aware of this but I thought I would leave a link to this thread Talk:Katie Leung#Ethnicity .E2.89.A0 Nationality so that the IP will understand that they will need to get a consensus for the change that they wish to make. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 15:28, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Ok but what can i do to undo that "mistake"? The mistake was that i added her nationality. Also what does the word "consensus" mean exactly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:57, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Read WP:CONSENSUS --Ebyabe talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 15:39, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Also, your repeated removal of sourced categories is not conducive to promoting your point. --Ebyabe talk - General Health ‖ 15:42, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
And let's not forget this. Oh wait, was that you too? --Ebyabe talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 15:45, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Plus this doesn't help much either. --Ebyabe talk - Welfare State ‖ 15:48, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
  • For what it's worth I've left a belated note on the article talk page. I'm not sure it will matter as it simply reiterates what everyone else had already said.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:22, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

CU request[edit]

Hi Ponyo: Since you're familiar with Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lindenhurst Liberty, I thought I'd contact you directly about requesting a CU on this possible sock. Same gnomish copyediting behavior with some edits solely for date format changes with "mf".[5][6][7][8][9]. Lots of popular music edits, though now mostly on works instead of artists like past socks, otherwise it'd be a more obvious duck. Past IPs were all around Chicago. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 04:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

@Bagumba: I don't see a technical connection between the accounts.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:28, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, then it's consistent with the slight differences in behavior.—Bagumba (talk) 01:47, 13 July 2016 (UTC)


Dear Ponyo Sir, I understand what I have been blocked for and read the term, conditions and policies of wikipedia. I convince you that I will never involve in any sorts of Vandalism and have informed my shared community network provider to check vandalisms on wikipedia from this ip adress ranges. I request you to unblock me so that I will be able to contribute for wikipedia articles. - User:Manpoudar ( (talk) 05:21, 12 July 2016 (UTC))

You already submitted an unblock request on July 8. What was the response there? --Ebyabe talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 05:29, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

My reason did not adressed the unblocked appeal because I deny being the suckpuppetry of any other users because I holds only this account. So I was not unblocked. I am directly blocked on the basis of check user that considers Ip ranges. However, hunders of users can operate from same ip adress. and here is the proof of this troubleshoot :

Nepal has 15 ip adresses in average for its 1000 internet users and here is the proof.

I want the further investigation on this and hope my loyalty will win. and I get unblocked. ( (talk) 05:55, 12 July 2016 (UTC))

  • P, I've blocked the ip as a self-confessed IP sock of Manpouder, especially given the declined unblocks and CU Block. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 06:03, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Protecting articles with woefully inadequate content in them. Thank you. -- GB fan 16:35, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Actually here: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Protecting_articles_with_woefully_inadequate_content_in_them --NeilN talk to me 16:46, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Noted.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:38, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
She's baaaack, having been raked over the coals at ANI. You have a lot of nerve reverting a sock. Do it one more time and it's the Committee for you.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
I am desperately trying to get my shizznit together before heading out on an upcoming road trip. Now that I've logged in there is simply no hope for me. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:50, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
A Thelma and Louise road trip? No, that didn't end very happily, did it? Now does going on a road trip when you're about to be brought before the Committee sound like leaving under a cloud? I've never seen what's so terrible about being under a cloud. There are some beautiful puffy clouds right outside of my window. I like being under them. Anyway, here's my suggestion when you go before Newyorkbrad (he may no longer be a member but in some ways he'll always be The Committee). Your Honour (your spelling), sir, master, O Great One, I know I did some things wrong but I was stressed and HighInBC wasn't available to relieve my stress. What could I do, I ask you, Your Highestness? I was stuck between a sock and a hard place. I lost it, but it was only for a moment, Your Newyorkdom. I promise on a stack of holy bibles it won't happen again.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:28, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
I know I might have a few pounds to lose, but please don't call me a committee. Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:31, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


Dear Ponyo, I have noticed that a former sockpuppet named user:JovanAndreano keeps ons returning and deleting sourced information or keeps deleting my edits. He literally comes back every day to take a look at my edits and removes everything or just goes to all kinds of different pages and removes information. The anonymous user user: is creating an edit war again. Can you take a look at the situation?
Alhaqiha (talk) 18:45, 13 July 2016

Looking through the edits, it's obvious block evasion. I've semi-protected a couple of recent targets.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 19:16, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) Maate, no disrespect, bt you're both edit warring over a category. If that's a sock, it'll find itself blocked in any case; it would be madness for you to go a similar way. Talk about giving him what he wants! Slow down, eh? Muffled Pocketed 18:57, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, I tried having conversations with the user on talkpages a few months ago, but he doesn't seem to care and he doesn't react. This has been going on for a few months now, and he comes back eveyday with a new ip adres making the same changes.Alhaqiha (talk) 19:36, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Possible sockpuppetry[edit]

Huma Qureshi (actress) and Saqib Saleem subject to possible sock-puppetry. Please confirm. - Managerarctalk 20:47, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

You'll have to give me a bit more to go on than that. Who do you expect to be socking? --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:50, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Pretty sure, it's User:Ishq Hawa Mein. Editing pattern and IPs are similar.- Managerarctalk 13:34, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
What a mess. I've semi-protected both pages.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 16:40, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Another here- Managerarctalk 21:08, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Blocked.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:34, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

[10]- Managerarctalk 14:00, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

SpacemanSpiff has done the needy in this case.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:19, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Managerarc had contacted me regarding the other account when you were away, today I saw that blocked and had already matched the new one to that, seemed quite straightforward. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:30, 26 July 2016 (UTC)


I won't have time to look for it til near midnight US mountain time. Hectic life is why I didn't pursue it originally. My relax time at wiki won't stress me out. I walk away first. If you respond to my email, I will forward the emails involved too. My reply to the anonymous responder was considerably less than cordial. I have a daughter and I guess I had a bit of projection going on. That's when I walked. John from Idegon (talk) 19:24, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

If you do dig up the link I will definitely take a look. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:05, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
The Rev del got handled by DoRD. Thanks for your concern. The other issues in that thread.....well, I'll leave well enough alone. John from Idegon (talk) 03:49, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Why indeed?[edit]

Why does Ponyo keep blocking me must be part of your fanclub. ;)  · Salvidrim! ·  23:53, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

@Salvidrim!: Take a look -- User:Why did Salvidrim block me SA 13 Bro (talk) 23:57, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Followed by User:Why did Acroterion block me, which led to User:Why did Nakon block me, which I blocked 6 seconds after it was created and hopefully broke the chain (ya right, wishful thinking).  · Salvidrim! ·  00:11, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
User:Why do adnims block my accounts SA 13 Bro (talk) 00:25, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Has User:Why have adnims blocked me so many times I can't spell anymore been blocked yet...? ;) Muffled Pocketed 18:39, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Persistent vandal longer or indefinite block needed, please![edit]

Hello! The vandal that you blocked, and who has been blocked before, User is back making *numerous* edits to add that people are of Cherokee descent (cat) and other silliness, and adding numerous bad links. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:43, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I've reblocked the IP.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:46, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

When you get back...[edit]

Karisma Kapoor extending an invitation to Ponyo

...the Kapoor family invites you to take a look at the various changes to their ethnicity on the pages of the family and the various members. —SpacemanSpiff 15:14, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Please God no. Wait, isn't User:Drmies the Kapoor family specialist? --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:58, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
He is, but he hasn't kept up with the times and I saw the ethnic war (as well as adding and cutting off branches of the family tree) going on at a few of their articles (via IPs) and was wondering if you remembered who the involved groups were. Hope you enjoyed your vacation, Nouman Khan Sherani and a few others surely did! cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 02:20, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
I made an ass of myself at Ranbir's bar mitzvah and haven't been invited back... Drmies (talk) 14:25, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Sockpuppet JovanAndreano returned[edit]

Dear ponyo, it looks like the user user:JovanAndreano has returned and made several edits 1, 2, 3 without explanation or sources. The users are user:, user:, user: Have a nice day. Alhaqiha (talk) 16:47, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

The IPs are all stale, so blocking would not be helpful if they are indeed evading a block. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Return of a Problem - yet again![edit]

Hello Ponyo, I'm afraid that our NI "rape addict" has returned - yet again with the usual rape references, plus more silly questions. This time using IP86.156.141.210 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log). I am seriously worried by this person's obsession and wonder if it is time to alert the relevant authorities in their area of the UK. As regards Wikipedia, can I leave the appropriate action to you? Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 21:53, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

I think perhaps the Wikipedia Foundation should consider asking the UK authorities to look into this editor. This is clearly not a normal editor and his risk level needs to be assessed by professionals IMO. Betty Logan (talk) 16:37, 23 July 2016 (UTC) notified. Mlpearc (open channel) 16:47, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello P. I hope that you had a wonderful vacation. This person showed up as a named editor today Doctor Dude (talk · contribs). They made the exact same edit as the last blocked IP did. Mlpearc thank you for notifying the emergency arm of WikiP. In case they need background on how long this has been going on they can take a look at the edits by several of the IPs at the top of this list Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/ This one is representative of most of them (talk · contribs). Over time they moved to making innocuous posts on ref desks but they would eventually return to their obsession. MarnetteD|Talk 16:07, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
The holiday was lovely and much needed, though I'm beginning to think it should have been much longer! I've blocked the named account.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:23, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Achraf Baznani[edit]

Hello, The artist is well known, please retore this page to rewrite it. Thank you [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] (talk) 17:57, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

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Hi there,

It's good to see you back, my dear. I hope you had a pleasant trip. The one admin that I care most about. Face-smile.svg Mona778 (talk) 02:02, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Mona, that's very kind.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:25, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

A convoluted mess[edit]

Hey, there's an unblock request for Subikshakrishnan. I'd initially blocked the account for famous name and filed this SPI and changed the block after the CU results. The master account has done this before by opening another sock account in the name of another notable person (in the archives) and was also involved in a boatload of obfuscation in copyvios (see this discussion) and given the likely finding at SPI I'd blocked this. Now there's an OTRS ticket regarding identity and an appeal via UTRS. Since you have access to all these (CU findings, OTRS, UTRS etc), could you take a look? If the account is unlikely to be connected to the master then I don't have any issue with an unblock (post legal threat being withdrawn that is). cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 15:15, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

When I try to view the OTRS ticket it says I have "insufficient rights" to view it. Perhaps my access to the quality queue was removed without notification? (Perhaps Keegan or Rjd0060 can confirm)? The UTRS appeal was declined as it did not address the legal threats. You should sign up for an UTRS account, it's easy-peasy!--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:35, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
I've been meaning to sign up for UTRS for a while now, just haven't done it, like many other things I mean to do. I lost my OTRS access during my few months of inactivity when the new confidentiality agreement was due and I didn't sign it, been meaning to get that part done too. This particular case is not the first such one. We've had another user on here upload family photographs of a notable actor claiming "own work". Then Anna pointed out that he'd have been one year old when he took that photograph (based on the date) and even then he didn't retract that claim. How these people get access to such photographs is beyond me. My main concern is that the sock master account has already created one other account in the name of a notable person and has been faking exifs for images for this particular BLP, so I'd like to be sure that it's not the case here. But at the same time, if it is the real person behind this new account then I'd like to avoid any unnecessary trouble for her. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:51, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
I've encountered the same issue, though I can't remember the account name. They also emailed OTRS claiming to be the subject, though there was clear evidence that they were making the same claims under multiple celebrity names. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:57, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Bot problem[edit]

You protected a page that definitely needed protecting, but a bot seems to have erroneously thwarted you, here. I thought you should know. David in DC (talk) 20:06, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

In this case the bot was right; I removed the pending changes protection and swapped it to semi-protection. I'm sure another bot will be around to add the pp-semi template to replace pp-pc1.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:20, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Gotchya. Thanks. David in DC (talk) 20:23, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Just wanted to say thank you for all of the CU work you do. It is appreciated. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:11, 27 July 2016 (UTC)