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The Sound of Music (film)

You made this edit [1] to the article and changed "dancing" to "singing". Andrews does not actually start singing until the cut to the shot from the ground. It's not a big deal--I just mention it because I was talking specifically about the helicopter approach shot. Cheers! --Thomprod (talk) 19:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Comeback poster.jpg)

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I've semiprotected Hilo for a day in hopes that the IP will give up. Nyttend(talk) 04:39, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, that should help. Postoak (talk) 07:28, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Not yet, but any more and I'll semiprotect for a longer time. Nyttend (talk) 23:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Merged articles

I wasn't aware of this either. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:27, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


If you have a problem with an edit I've made, tell me, okay? I'm the only one with power over how I think, and I don't appreciate someone going behind my back to fix my mistake... next time, tell me if I've done something wrong, dude... Magus732 (talk) 06:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I can accept that, but next time, tell me that I screwed up, alright? I had to hear it from an administrator... if you'd told me I'd made those errors, I could've simply undid my own revision... Magus732 (talk) 16:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Notability of residential colleges

You previously commented on a dispute at List of Rice University residential colleges but the issue at the heart of that dispute appears to be more widespread. A RFC has been submitted on the best way to deal with the existence of many Wikipedia articles on residence halls and dormitories at colleges and universities that may not be notable. Your input and feedback would be appreciated at the RFC.Madcoverboy (talk) 17:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry you were mentioned in those incident reports. Thanks for all your work thus far in improving the articles. I think the biggest thing you could do would be to try to make the nine colleges' articles more consistent in their formatting. I would love it if each college had the same sort of informational box in the upper-right corner of the page. I don't know if you have experience doing that, but I think that could be very helpful in improving the articles. The changes you've made to Martel's page were great. I don't know how familiar you are with any of the other colleges, but if you have the time, I think you could greatly improve some of the other articles.Mphornet (talk) 22:49, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Regarding my inclusion of you on the filed reports, it was not an accusation of you using facebook to canvass, but merely being an involved party like myself to the dispute: you reverted my edits twice (though likely in good faith as I commented here earlier, but you chose to delete for some reason), participated in the talk page discussion, and edited at least one of the articles extensively. Madcoverboy (talk) 23:13, 29 March 2009 (UTC)



Hi, Postoak. I have granted you NPWatcher per your requesthere. After looking over a few of your contributions, your talk page, and your block log, I feel you can be trusted with the tool. If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a note on my talk page. –Juliancolton | Talk 15:17, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


Wow! That template's great! Thanks so much for making it. I think it'll be a great addition to the articles. The one thing I think you should probably add is the category of Resident Associates. Other than that, it's incredible. If you don't mind, I'd like to apply your template to all the other colleges' articles so that they are more uniform. You've made some great improvements to all these articles today! Thanks for all the help, and I apologize again that you were included in those incident reports. Please let me know if there is anything else you think I could do to help improve these articles.Mphornet (talk) 07:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I think adding the colleges to the main Rice University navbox was a great idea. Well done! But now there is redundancy at the bottom of each page. I think it's important that we keep the residential colleges listed as a section in the main Rice University navbox. I guess it would be okay to delete the separate Rice University Residential Colleges one as long as each article has the Rice University navbox at the bottom and as long as that box still lists the colleges. For now, I'm not going to touch it, but you can feel free to make any changes as you see fit. —Preceding unsigned comment added byMphornet (talkcontribs) 20:01, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Great! I'll try to start adding that information for each college. Things seem to be slowing down around all these articles.Mphornet (talk) 00:18, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I can't figure out how to add the names of the RA's to the pages. I got Hanszen's up, but Will Rice and Wiess are confusing me.Mphornet (talk) 00:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Navbox for Rice residential colleges

Now that I have changed the template included in the navbox, I think it's OK to use, if that was your question :)D'oh, now I understand your question -- better to use the more complete template IMHO – ukexpat (talk) 02:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I didn't change the main template. No need to use both, just use the template that has more detail. In fact the smaller template should probably be deleted to avoid confusion. – ukexpat (talk) 02:19, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for working on that navbox template. I had made the smaller one, but it's much better to have the big Rice one there. I did learn a whole lot about making templates, though! Thanks for your work with the Rice articles. Kirlinator (talk) 03:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

RE: Email

Yes, my email is active. —RJN (talk) 21:59, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Consensus test on university topics

You previously commented on the RFC on the notability of residences at colleges and universities. A consensus test has been posted to evaluate what, if any consensus, has been reached on the issue. Please go and comment at: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities#Consensus test.Madcoverboy (talk) 18:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


I removed the prod tag you placed on the article CutePDF, as the article had previously had a prod tag removed and thus was no longer eligible for prod. Calathan (talk) 23:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Alerts of the houston project.

Why did you remove them? Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 02:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I figured out what you were trying to do. I've set up the alerts in a more standard way (this is so the maintenance categories are cleaner and more systematic, so we can spot problems more easily). The usual way to do what you wanted is to use the subscription template with |display=none, and to transclude the /Article alerts page wherever you want it to be displayed. In any scenario, it'll behave like you want it to behave, and i'll be happy with how its set up.Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 02:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry if I screwed up, I moved them to the "announcements" section where I thought would be a better place for reading the alerts. Thanks, Postoak (talk) 02:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
No its not that you screwed up, its just that I (at first) though that you simply remove/unsubscribed to the alerts and was wondering why.Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 02:51, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Flamingos spotted at Sheldon

I recently edit the Sheldon Reservoir article indicating that Flamingos had been spotted there in the spring. It was a minor thing and a tidbit of information but somehow seemed significant to me as I have spent many years, 35 in fact, enjoying this small jewel of a reservoir. I had never in 35 years seen Flamingos there and thought others might find it interesting as well.

I am curious as to why you would revert the article to the previous version.

Gridleak (talk) 22:10, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the statement was unsourced, please see WP:RS. Could you have seen a Roseate spoonbill? Please see [2]. Thanks, 00:57, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Anything is possible I suppose... and admittedly I did not get close enough to be certain. I will see if I can get some photos, though it may be spring next year before I get another chance, heh haha. I had hoped that by posting the info someone else might also pay attention and help to verify. Thanks for the info, and maybe we'll see you next spring if not sooner.

Gridleak (talk) 17:48, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

That would be a great addition to the article, thank you! Postoak (talk) 18:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Galveston article

I saw you've been making improvements to the Galveston, Texas article; I still have full intentions to help get it up to a FA, but have been pre-occupied the past two months with caring for a dying family member and as well as trying to mediate some disagreements in several middle-eastern related articles. Anyhow, most of that has now passed, and in the interim I have been collecting Chronicle/Galveston Daily News source articles, so hopefully soon I can get back to doing some serious editing. It would be nice to have it "up-to-snuff" by September 8... Cheers!! --Nsaum75 (talk) 07:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I know how that has been keeping me busy the past few months also. I will look for new content and sources. Soon we can have the article reviewed for WP:GA status and then onwards to featured article. I noticed some of the stuff going on at your talk page, hope that has been resolved. I'm sorry to hear about your family member, my prayers go out to your family. Take care, Postoak (talk) 07:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I meant WP:GA, my brain isn't up to par at this hour. I'll add in the new sourced content in the next day or so. As for the stuff on my talk page -- its amazing how even food and spices can be turned into political fodder. Thanks for the well wishes -- stay cool in this oppressive Texas heat.--Nsaum75 (talk) 07:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Help

Next time, you should go to WP:WQA or even WP:ANI, but I'll do what I can currently. If he makes another revert, attack, or something similar, do not hesitate to bring this right to ANI and drop me a message. I've left the most strongly-worded warning I can, but I this stinks of a sockpuppet. -MBK004 21:35, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

ping: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Block_review_requested , please make a statement here. -MBK004 14:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: our colleague Freegolan

You might be interested in[3]


Thank-you for your contribution to Wikipedia, particularly to Benicia, California, Rancho Cordova, California, San Rafael, California, Modesto, California, Greeley, Colorado,Sandringham, Victoria, Groton, Massachusetts, Thousand Oaks, California and Sparks, Nevada. This is an encyclopedia, and the content should reflect this, if you want to add this material the onus is on you to prove it is fact, using third party sources. If you are not in a position to backup your claims your additions will likely be deleted per policy. 20:27, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Postoak (talk) 22:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The photos of developing Houston

The photos are amazing! Particularly the one of the Texas Medical Center sign. I wonder if it is possible to make a fair use justification for that photo, since I am not aware of any freely licensed photos showing the development of the Texas Medical Center.

Anyhow I'm still working on posting photos of various parts of Houston. I got shots of Clinton Park, Houston to make sure that we have a photo of the now-closed Clinton Park school (in case it is ever torn down) WhisperToMe (talk) 00:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar

That was kind of you, PostOak. I appreciate it. I'm still working on BMC Software (trying to make it neutral, adding more info, more sections, then I'll try to condense it so its more readable-- perhaps in a few days it will look better?) Please have a look over in a few days (maybe Aug 15th?) to help me improve it? Thanx.Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:24, 11 August 2009 (UTC)tomwsulcer

BMC Software revamped

Wondering what you think? I can't figure out how to make it better but I'm asking comments from more experienced editors like YOU. And I'm looking for new projects to work on too.Tomwsulcer (talk) 01:10, 15 August 2009 (UTC)tomwsulcer

PostOak, I totally agree with your view about the shortness of the lead sentence of the BMC Software article -- perhaps it could be expanded to include the first paragraph. Originally, I felt inundated with terms I didn't understand, and wanted to simplify it to make it comprehensible to readers who don't know much about software (including myself) but I agree it's perhaps too short. Please feel free to fix at your discretion. Also, I agree about pictures regarding relevancy too, but I think having some mildly-relevant pictures are better than none at all (text looks so dry) but there aren't many pictures available. Perhaps its worth a try contacting the company and seeing if they'll upload pictures which can be used -- software flowcharts, anything helpful to explain, hopefully something better to look at which is informative and yet not biased towards BMC. I'm hoping other editors will take over at this point.Tomwsulcer (talk) 17:25, 16 August 2009 (UTC)tomwsulcer

Need Your Help on BMC Software

Some editor named "Ronz" keeps putting dubious tags on the article -- that it needs "wikification", that it needs "cleaning up", that it needs "better sources"; he doesn't give specifics. I think the article, as is, is solid, with good sources, references, good format, well organized. There are about 100 references. It covers everything. It's a good business article. I need your help in reviewing this situation. If you think the article is solid, please let me know, and please side with me if this becomes an edit war. Or if there are obvious problems let me know too. At this point I'm going to get administrators to possibly look into this.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 22:09, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Galveston Bay Area

It appears that the History section is the only unique section in the article, most of the other sections are borrowed from other articles. Unless it was renamed to "History of the Galveston Bay area" and only the history section retained and expanded, I would merge. Is the "Houston-Galveston Metro Area" an official designation? Postoak (talk) 20:01, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback!
I didn't want to clutter the talk page with a drawn-out discussion, but can you elaborate? There is currently maybe 50% of the text that could be said to be borrowed from other WP articles (with some small tweaks). But the rest of the text is original and unique to the topic. Mind you the original text and borrowed text are sometimes interspersed.
Anyway, I just wasn't clear what this meant (i.e. are you saying that the unique stuff is unimportant and there is not enough unique material regarding important things?).
--Mcorazao (talk) 20:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
To clarify
Hello, when I first looked at the article it appeared that "History" was the only unique section with the other sections partially coming from other articles. I suggested that we keep the history section only, expand it and rename the article to something like "History of the Galveston Bay area". You've expanded the article with unique content related to the area, so I recommend that the article not be merged with Greater Houston. Of course, other editors may disagree. Anyway, keep up the great work! Postoak (talk) 00:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
--Mcorazao (talk) 02:34, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Ping, up at AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Galveston Bay Area-MBK004 20:06, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Alabama Theater

I'll see if I have a shot of the Alabama Theater in my photo archives. If so I'll post it. I didn't know the Alabama Theater got an article on here WhisperToMe (talk) 02:26, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Yeah, I wish they wouldn't tear it down either. Maybe Alamo Drafthouse would be interested in getting it or something. If Alamo announces this in a news article or something, it would be interesting. Anyway, I'm still checking my archive to see if I have a shot of the Alabama.WhisperToMe (talk) 20:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Galveston_Bay_Area#Article_development

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion atTalk:Galveston_Bay_Area#Article_development. Thank you.Nsaum75 (talk) 18:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}})

Galveston Bay Area

At this point, I would suggest that we get outside editors to review the article and respond to your concerns. Please see WP:RFC. Thanks, Postoak (talk) 20:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply.
I thought after the deletion proposal discussion and the Rfc on the merge discussion went through that there was at least a general consensus on the merit of the article in general and we were past questioning whether the article and how it was being written were legitimate. But this does not feel to me like the case now.
I guess part of what I'm asking is "Can anybody explain why some editors seem to be so PO'd about this article's very existence?"
Perhaps one issue is that I am currently the primary editor on the article so it makes it easier to argue that I am biased. I was hoping that in the process of the Rfc's and the discussions that somebody else might take an interest in the topic and act as a co-author. So far, though, contributions have been limited to tagging and minor corrections (I even tried just not editing for a few days wondering if somebody who had previously been timid to contribute might choose to dive in).
Point being that I am not sure that a generic Rfc will push things forward. But I suppose I can try again.
--Mcorazao (talk) 21:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Galveston, Texas

FYI: I left a few comments on the talk page. I mentioned that there is some significant history not really well covered regarding the 20s and 30s in Galveston.

--Mcorazao (talk) 22:35, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, I really appreciate your suggestions and will incorporate them into the article. Hopefully the article will pass WP:GA review soon. Thanks again, Postoak(talk) 00:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
No prob. Wish I could say I was looking forward to the same on the GBA article. ;-)
--Mcorazao (talk) 01:57, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey, another FYI. After commenting on this I did some more reading and got interested enough to create a new article: Free State of Galveston. It's incomplete at this time but I thought it might interest you.

--Mcorazao (talk) 06:05, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I saw you added a mention of the "Free State" era. Looks good.
One thing this makes me think about, though, that the article doesn't capture is the vice culture that ended in the 1950s. Basically since its foundation Galveston had always been a very "loose" society and that is a major part of the reason the Maceos were so successful. The 1950s marked the end of a culture that had, in some sense, existed for more than a century. Not that I want to cast Galveston in a bad light but this seems like a some interesting to address historically.
Up to you ...
--Mcorazao (talk) 23:21, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Education in Galveston

I created a possible "Education in Galveston" sub-article in asandbox, so that we can trim the Galveston article's education section (while leaving the information available somewhere else -- if its really needed). A good part of the sandbox article is harvested from other articles, however the information copied lacked citations in the parent articles. Therefore I am keeping it in the sandbox until adequate and proper sourcing can be added. --Nsaum75 (talk) 21:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Chopped. What do you think? --Nsaum75 (talk) 22:32, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


I will be returning to the Galveston area this week. If you can think of any photos that might be useful in the Galveston article, let me know. Chances are I already have something relevant on file, but if not, its not a problem for me to take one. --Nsaum75 (talk) 00:16, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

How about one of these?? [4],[5]. I own the copyright on them, and wouldn't mind releasing versions of them under GFDL if they could be of use in the article.--Nsaum75 (talk) 00:41, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

How is this?? I can trim it down some more and upload a replacement photo if needed.--Nsaum75 (talk) 01:02, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Galveston Texas Skyline.jpg
Galveston East End Panoramic.jpg

Thought you might be interested in seeing [this] photo. Water-line markers at the corner of 21st and Postoffice street. I had a cop behind me, so I couldn't stop....but I plan on going back to take a better shot (view the large version).--Nsaum75 (talk) 01:39, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Oops.. Try this one. --Nsaum75 (talk) 01:53, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
This photo exists on the commons, if it might be useful in the Juneteenth segment of GTX article. The triva/controversy surrounding it isnt very PC, though. --Nsaum75 (talk) 06:45, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

More on Galveston

Vice in Galveston, agreed - we need to add a crime section to the article, what I would like to do besides including the standard statistics is to include the historic crime, vice, etc. in this section. What do you think? or should the historic crime be located in the history section? Thanks again, Postoak (talk) 23:29, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, two thoughts:
  • Historic crime can be mentioned briefly in a crime section but anything detailed belongs in the History section.
  • What I am referring to, though, is not so much antisocial behavior or even simply organized crime. The citizens of Galveston historically had a very lax attitude about the law and morality. Essentially the Jean Lafitte's colony was never really abandoned and so the culture of the city simply grew out of that early culture. Although the city certainly developed its respectable side the people were still generally pretty accepting of activities that were technically illegal as long as they weren't violent. That lax attitude waxed and waned at various times but it never really went away until the 1950s when it was essentially stomped out (this can be compared to racism in the South that persisted through through Emancipation and Reconstruction until the Civil Rights Movement crushed it).
--Mcorazao (talk) 01:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
and BTW, I know you're busy with GBA, but please feel free to help out on Galveston if you have the time! Thanks, Postoak (talk) 23:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Actually I think I am perhaps stopping on GBA for a while. One editor suggested that maybe I should give other editors a chance to get over their hostility toward the article for a while and then revisit. I really have essentially all the content I want and the general form is decent. The references could use a little polishing but they are mostly better than typical GA articles I see.
So maybe I'll take you up on your offer.
--Mcorazao (talk) 01:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Crime in Galveston

Although not relevant to the Crime in Galveston section, thisarticle is an interesting read. Creating articles for Shearn Moody & Robert Moody are on my long list of things to do. (Robert Moody who owns the bank, insurance company etc..etc..and there is already an article for William Lewis Moody, Jr.) BLP shouldn't as big of an issue for Shearn, since he is now deceased. --Nsaum75 (talk) 02:40, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


Brainyquote isn't a reliable source. It doesn't cite the sources of quotations.--Nemo 07:46, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks for letting me know even though this is a couple of months old. Postoak(talk) 18:59, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Peer review?

If you are interested I put out a peer review request for the Free State of Galveston article. Feel free to chime in if you like.

--Mcorazao (talk) 15:54, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Shearn Moody, Jr.

I created an article on Shearn Moody, Jr., the brainchild of Moody Gardens as well as numerous other "things" -- I'm currently gathering sources and expanding it. If you have time, I would appreciate it if you could look at it. It would be easy to write a humorous article on him (since he's deceased WP:BLP isn't an issue), however I am trying to maintain a short, concise article sticking to facts that have been extensively documented. Cheers! --Nsaum75 (talk) 17:37, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


Do you chat online? —RJN (talk) 07:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


This is precisely why I don't often contribute photos of subject matter in Israel ...Palestine ... Israel ... Palestine to Wikipedia...I'd like to, but it just imports the Arab-Israeli Conflict and/or antisemitism to my userpage.... Thanks for the reverts.  ;-) --Nsaum75 (talk) 09:18, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Dumb question

I'm probably showing my ignorance here but is "Beach Boulevard" the old name for "Seawall Boulevard"? I've been assuming that this is the case from what I have seen but I have not actually seen a source that talks about a name change.


--Mcorazao (talk) 16:35, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Alabama Theater

Interesting possibilities for its future..[6] --Nsaum75 (talk) 02:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


Thought I would share thiswith you, since you've put so much work into the Galveston, Texas article.--Nsaum75 (talk) 06:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Vietboi26

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion atWikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Vietboi26. Thank you.Nsaum75 (talk) 01:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}})

Sacred Heart Photo

Can we find the original copyrighted version? I have an account on commons and regularly contribute there, so i can nominate it. --Nsaum75 (talk) 10:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind. I found the original, and posted it for deletion on the commons.--Nsaum75 (talk) 10:10, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Trying to find the original of this[7]. Given how the others are copyrighted images, I'm pretty sure this one is too. --Nsaum75 (talk) 07:08, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


User Finetooth hassuggested that there might be licensing issues with GalvezHotelGalveston.jpg. Is the licensing on this image clear at this point?


--Mcorazao (talk) 17:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello, GalvezHotelGalveston.jpg has a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license, there should be no problems at all. Images are checked when they are moved from Wikipedia to commons by bot; this one wasn't. I just completed the check which removed "check bot transfer" message.
The postcard is in the public domain because it does not have a copyright mark. Comment -> Note: Flickr intermediate source tagged as Creative Commons, but as mechanical reproduction of material printed in the US without copyright notice pre-1960s, image is public domain per US law. The link provided is dead, maybe we should ask the original uploader to correct this.Postoak (talk) 18:41, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Finetooth also questioned the Postcard from the 40s. The pre-1923 exclusion does not seem to apply since the postcard obviously must have been made long after that. So it is unclear what the justification on that one is. I left a note with the editor who uploaded it. Would you be aware of the details there?
--Mcorazao (talk) 19:00, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Galveston GA review

I left some comments on Talk:Galveston, Texas/GA2. MahangaTalk 20:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Great job on your article!

Dear, Postoak. I was patrolling new pages on Wikipedia and I noticed that your article, History of Galveston, Texas. I must say you did an outstanding job. Keep up the good work.  Btilm  02:52, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Only one comment -- there should be a brief subsection on the Galveston, Texas page regarding the 1900 storm; If its missing, someone will inevitably add it in later. Best to work it in now (and keep everything flowing smoothly) as opposed to it being inserted later by a different group of editors. --Nsaum75 (talk) 03:05, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


To User:Postoak for improvingGalveston, Texas to GA standards WhisperToMe (talk) 00:32, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I award this barnstar to you for your contributions to Galveston, Texas, and its improvement to GA standards. :) WhisperToMe (talk) 00:32, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

1900 Storm

Thanks for the Barnstar. If you're inclined, I plan on working on the 1900 Galveston hurricanearticle soon, and as always, the more the merrier. It had been a FA but was removed due to several issues, the main one being that the article primarily dealt with one city -- Galveston. Other editors felt it should equally reflect impact of the storm elsewhere in the United States & Cuba (like is done in the Hurricane Katrina article). The problem I have run into is that because news-media was in its infancy during this era, and the "West" itself was not as developed, information pertaining to the storms effects elsewhere is limited.

Anyhow, thanks again for the barnstar and for all your hard work getting the Galveston article to GA status! --Nsaum75 (talk) 01:52, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: Galveston, Texas is a GA

Thanks. I'm glad the effort payed off. You did good work.

--Mcorazao (talk) 02:53, 18 October 2009 (UTC)


Wow..considering the subject matter, I'm actually quite surprised its never made GA..or FA for that matter -- its definitely a topic that is deserving of such.

I wonder how hard it would be to get to the top of the Hilton across the street and take a panoramic photo of the campus... hmmmm... I ran into...issues...with Homeland Security for trying to take a photo of the Houston Ship Channel from the Fred Hartman Bridge...and UTMB police (on the advice of homeland security) have detained people for taking photos of their new BSL-4laboratory building. But...might be a good addition to the article.  :-)

The recurring troll is no doubt a byproduct of my adding photos to food articles (Hummus, Falafel etc) which have, sadly, been sucked into the endless Arab-Israeli conflict. --Nsaum75 (talk) 03:49, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Not much, just a good wide-angle lens and polarizing filter. For some of the extreme-wide panoramic photos, its good to have a program that can blend two or three wide-angle shots together.
I'll certainly see what I can do when I get back to Texas. I think it would be kinda fun to take some panoramic shots of Clear Lake (as in the Lake itself) and NASA. --Nsaum75(talk) 20:47, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Galveston, Texas

I'm curious if you intend on nominating Galveston, Texas for Featured Article status.MahangaTalk 20:09, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Latest on the GBA wars :-)

My only concern (and perhaps I'm looking into this more than I should) is the first line in the lead where "Bay Area Houston" is mentioned. The Galveston Bay Area to me is a generic term - loosely south of Houston, down to Galveston, east to the bay and west to 288. "Bay Area Houston" is a term fabricated by the BAHEP in 2003 [1] It appears to me that we are promoting this economic partnership. Postoak (talk) 01:00, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for giving feedback on the GBA stuff.
I didn't want to respond to your question on the GBA talk page right now since there is a more fundamental issue that still needs to be worked out first. But I didn't want you to think I was ignoring you.
Ultimately I'm not married to keeping "Bay Area Houston" in the first sentence. I initially did not put it there because, as you say, it is a term invented by the BAHEP. I'll mention a couple of reasons why I put it there.
  • The term is not used exclusively by the BAHEP. In the last several years there are several organizations and businesses that have started to use the term (Bay Area Houston Transportation Partnership, Bay Area Houston Ballet and Theater, etc.).
  • Not all of these organizations use the term to refer exclusively to the communities in the BAHEP (e.g. the BAHTP involves communities from Clear Lake to Texas City).
  • The term is being used by travel books, travel web sites, and other organizations outside the Bay Area. So clearly the term has caught on. It is no longer exclusively BAHEP's marketing term even though it started out that way.
So I put it in there just because the term has actually gained some currency. But I agree that it is debatable since it is a recently invented term. If there is a strong feeling that this should be removed from the first sentence I have no big objection.
--Mcorazao (talk) 02:25, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Since I believe we have moved past the unpleasantness now I set up a small forum on the GBA talk page to try to close some of the nagging issues surrounding the article. I've gone so far as to set up a table in the talk page so as to document the decisions permanently. :-)

Your comments would be much appreciated.

--Mcorazao (talk) 15:41, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I make a comment at Talk:GBA, then go upload a photo to the Commons, and when I come back 15 more comments have been made -- Its making my head spin -- and while I had some Mezcal a little while ago, wasnt that much LOL.. :-) --Nsaum75 (talk) 06:14, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
naa..this was local stuff.. they only put the worm in bottles that are to be exported or sold to turistas. The worm does, however, show up roasted in tacos (along with crickets) and ground up in table salt. --Nsaum75(talk) 06:27, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
This isn't my photo[8], but it is a goood example of typical fare served at local restaurants in Oaxaca...Tex-Mex it isnt.. --Nsaum75(talk) 06:46, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the crickets are roasted in big batches on a comal -- so they're safe to eat (they taste like grass -- go figure)... The worms, when served whole, are ...mostly... roasted. They don't have much refrigeration here -- and its not for lack of availability, people just don't see the need in owning a fridge -- but when they do, they refrigerate stuff like peanut butter instead of important things like raw chicken. So sometimes the insects are among the safer things to eat. --Nsaum75 (talk) 07:15, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Are you mad?

Uh, you give me an extended response, yet when I respond were suddenly off topic. See you later,Postoak (talk) 22:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Are you mad about something? I don't really understand this statement. I suggested we try to steer back to the topic in response to Nsaum75's last comment (and my own) and then you added your response afterward. Even if I had made the suggestion after your comment I don't know why that would be offensive. I don't think I in any way implied the suggestion was directed specifically at you.
--Mcorazao (talk) 22:24, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Sakowitz & the Deer

Haha! I need to figure out how to work that one into the Sakowitz article!--Nsaum75 (talk) 01:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

I know....Piggly Wiggly...and don't forget Weingartens. Actually, I'm wondering if the Piggly Wiggly store in the photo didn't later become the CLC Weingartens. Speaking of historical things, you might like this. Lots of historical photos and neat info on "US 75" (there's still a US 75 sign on the frontage road near Hobby). --Nsaum75 (talk) 01:51, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

CLC Theater. The building still stands -- its now occupied (partly) by an Oriental Gourmet buffet. Neat stuff. And yeah, Maximus bought the old Maxwell Coffee bldg a few years ago... I remember reading "complaints" in the Chronicle about how residents in the new high-rise condos by "Enron Field", were going to miss the old Maxwell House sign glowing in the distance.--Nsaum75 (talk) 02:10, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
If you go to the root directory of that site, there's actually a lot of information on Houston area freeways -- plus some old freeway planning maps.
I was born and raised up in Galveston (5th gen BOI), but my father's parents lived in Webster (my grandfather was actually part of the command @ Ellington AFB before retiring), so I have many happy memories of summers in and around CLC as a kid....Galveston is another story... Growing up, the Island had two malls, three movie theaters, and a plethora of other things to do. But by the early 90s most of that was history...Now even the "old families" have been moving their businesses off the Island...I'm not sure what will be left in 20 years other than crappy tshirt shops. Its sad to watch your hometown die. --Nsaum75 (talk) 04:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Recent edits

Is there a legitimate reason of why you reverted my edits to Texas, or is it because you lack a basic knowledge of general things. Waterjuice (talk) 02:53, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Can I conclude?

Hey, I know everybody got really sick of the GBA discussions. I still want to close the remaining issues without making it just my opinion (i.e. I'm looking to fend off future attempts to re-open the same issues).

Regarding the question on what names to use, since "Bay Area Houston" is such a "hot potato" do I have your support (i.e. can I say you agree with me) in suggesting that we simply use "Galveston Bay Area" in the first sentence, mention "Bay Area" later, and then not mention any other names? I'm sure somebody at some point will find a reason to have a problem with that but it seems to me the best compromise.

--Mcorazao (talk) 21:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


The Islands of Texas list farm is getting rather...long. I have asked the editor who has been prolifically (is that even a word?) adding to it, to add notations as to where the islands are located. I surmise that many of them may be spoil or dredge islands and are not WP:NOTE, but since I am not omniscient -- and google search fails to bring many of them up -- I thought specific geographic locations might help identify them (for research purposes). All in all, some surgery will probably be required on the list soon. --Nsaum75 (talk) 18:19, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Bishop's Palace

The black & white photo is very very nice -- and historical -- but the photos of it in the "gallery" could use some updating. I'm indecisive which one to use, so I thought I'd ask around. I like the colors and clearness of the masonary details in the one on the right, but one on the left is a better perspective I think.

Thanks in advance for your opinion --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 03:51, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

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The image is not low quality and in the public domain. Anyway, Commons has a copy of it, so go ahead and delete it. Postoak (talk) 19:12, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Waterjuice, again.

Hi Postoak. Since I'm not sure how to ad another sockpuppet to the case and I guess you know how to, would you mind taking a look at my updated response [here] at my talk? Thanks, The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 21:56, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Responding from what you left on my talk page: "Thanks"? No no no, thank you for taking care of this. I'll keep an eye on it and let you know if I discover any further update. Cheers, The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 00:55, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


I'm going to open an SPI on a certain repeat editor whose vandalism you've been quickly reverting.. --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 20:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Done - Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Qball22 --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 20:33, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


I'm a newbie to wikipedia and trying to post a legitamate article on the SCI page. Can you please tell me why it is being deleted repeatedly? The article is sourced...the Los Angeles Times. Thanks for your help! O.Drenker —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliver Drenker (talkcontribs) 21:40, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Oliver, the text probably was removed because it was cut and pasted directly from the LA Times article which is a copyright violation. Please try to paraphrase the paragraph and then add an appropriate reference. Let me know if you need any help. Thanks, Postoak (talk) 22:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Fisher-Price Attack Trolls

No problem. I figured while I was reverting personal attacks made on my own talk page, I could mosey on over to your page and do some work there too. It was refreshing dealing with someone elses' attack-troll for a change! :) --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 09:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

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Congrats on the GA for History of Galveston, Texas.

--Mcorazao (talk) 23:23, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Postoak (talk) 01:16, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Late congrats for this. Good work! Later... ;-) JungleCat Shiny!/Oohhh! 04:30, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Interesting stuff

Cheers --nsaum75¡שיחת! 14:56, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I was especially fond of the photos of the stores...Anyhow, I noticed you hadn't been around as much and wondered if something might be up. Glad you're out now and "on the mend".... I bought a new camera, so I'm just itching to get back to Texas and try it out! --nsaum75¡שיחת! 04:44, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
I bought a Canon EOS 50D with a EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens. I hope the good weather holds out, but with my luck, rain and fog will prevail. I haven't forgotten about taking some photos of JSC from the top of the Hilton, its on the top of my to-do list. On a side-note, the debate over the GBA-related articles seems to have settled down. --nsaum75¡שיחת! 08:41, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
ROFLMAO I loved your "typo" in your last msg....LOL! speaking of that... my talk page stalker has been quiet me jinx myself... Cheers! :-) --nsaum75¡שיחת! 08:48, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

RE: Happy Holidays

Hi Postoak, thanks for the note on my talk page. I hope you had a great holiday season as well. Happy New Year! Anyway, I will start graduate school full-time in three weeks. I am excited and looking forward to being back in college. —RJN (talk) 21:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Mattscards's message

Postoak, I have changed the population back you the official released numbers by The United States Census Bureau Also I spent a while this morning updating this an 3 year old references and you want to go and change my hard work?? I see you work hard too.. Please minimize this..That wasn't cool buddy. Why would you change the name of my reference?Mattscards (talk) 01:04, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I know you guys are going to love this... but when I am wrong I am wrong. I apologize for the statement above when in fact you did not do this. I must have been looking at the wrong thing and you did not do this. I will check the edits more carefully to see who was doing the editing. Again, I apologize.Mattscards (talk) 13:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

January 2010

It feels so strange to type that -- 2010 -- anyhow, best wishes to you as well in this upcoming year. I'm sure we will have plenty of opportunities to collaborate on articles; I was in town shortly before Christmas and went on a photo-blitz -- hopefully I will get everything uploaded soon, although I keep running into glitches on the Commons (some caused by user error <grin> and some caused by Wiki's software). Cheers! --nsaum75¡שיחת! 06:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

What tha?!?!?!? --nsaum75¡שיחת! 20:47, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Welcome back, friend. -- nsaum75¡שיחת! 07:54, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Just having a bad day today. Please check your inbox. Thanks again, Postoak (talk) 08:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
No problemo... Done, and replied. Regards --nsaum75¡שיחת! 08:58, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

New Houston Dynamo stadium

I recently did some updating on this article, but do you think a map showing the two proposed locations be helpful? --Hourick (talk) 19:36, 29 January 2010 (UTC) If I knew how to make them, and had the time, I would be OCD enough to populate the entire Houston portal. :) --Hourick (talk) 09:24, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Febrero 2010

This is more (or less) in your neck of the woods. Anyhow, if you're ever in Stafford, check it out...its simply amazing. Houston sure has some hidden gems. Regards --nsaum75¡שיחת! 05:16, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

You may or may not be aware of this, but when uploading a photo to Wikipedia, craptastic things happen to its clarity, sharpness and colouring. Saturday I uploaded a night-time photo of Tex Children's Hospital and was unhappy with the crappy artifacts etc that Wiki put in the photo....This evening I tried to upload a new version in an attempt to compensate for some of the wikicrap...but unfortunately I think its worse than the original.... So anyhow, I'm polling on which photo is less craptastic here. If you wouldn't mind giving me your opinion on them, it would be much appreciated. Scroll down to view the original and final versions. Regards, --nsaum75¡שיחת! 01:38, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for the link! I'll take a look at it and see if there's any good info for Wikipedia in it :) WhisperToMe (talk) 20:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


Just the main cities. And actually if you look at most countries we only use national maps. Regional maps are OK for smaller towns and settlements but major cities need clearer maps. E.g see Sydney. Most Aussie settlements use regional maps but as it is a major city... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 20:12, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Paula Deen...

...never cooked like this!

lol, let's hope not :) Postoak (talk) 01:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I'll alter my future edit summaries, feel free to check them if you have a minute. DrippingGoofball —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrippingGoofball (talkcontribs) 19:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


The office is called comptroller, not controller, but if you must have your way, go ahead. Things like this is why wikipedia is a joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:41, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Not according to the city of Houston. [9]. Postoak (talk) 01:11, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Nonsense —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:16, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


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Dynamo Stadium Redo

Hi there, the Dynamo Stadium article was getting on my nerves. I believe that a time line leading up to its (hopeful) construction would be nice for part of it's background to be included and figured you'd might have some ideas on how it should be broken down. Hopefully I'll have it finished by tomorrow: [10]--Hourick (talk) 19:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC)



Grazie, io amo gli spaghetti! --nsaum75¡שיחת! 05:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)


Hi, I was wondering if you could provide some good news articles and links for when CityCentre opened? I tried mucking around Google News yesterday but kept getting noise and no good hits – just stuff suggesting that "so-and-so company is moving in" etc. I'd like to improve the article. hbdragon88 (talk) 22:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


Oh, duh! I should have thought about that! In fact, there was an article in the paper yesterday discussing that very issue, but I wasn't sure if it was a "blog" or an actual story. I'll look into it tonight. --Hourick (talk) 04:13, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Man. Finding a proper reference for that is harder than I thought it would be. Might take longer than I thought. --Hourick (talk) 02:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Whoops-edit conflict

Ha... I was trying to revert the same vandalism you were at the same time.... and ended up reverting your reversion. SorryTjoeC (talk) 01:29, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Houston = Fat?

I am going to do my best to assume good faith on your part here, but I was very surprised today when I noticed that you have once again deleted the "fattest city" information from the Wikipedia article on Houston.[11]

We already discussed this issue in August [12], and you agreed that the information about the Men's Fitness survey should stay in the article. You said, "Nevertheless, since it gets so much attention each year I suppose it should stay, unless other editors respond and the consensus is to remove it." As you will note, no other editors responded, and it was actually you who once again brought up the issue of removing that section. The justifications you offered in your most recent discussion of removal are not sound, as I will illustrate:

1) Study is not "scientific"

Since, in our previous discussion in August, I already explained why the unscientific nature of the survey is not relevant (and you agreed), I will not bother repeating those points here.

2)The for-profit magazine probably gets additional advertising coverage when mentioned here in the article.

I am not exactly sure what you mean by "additional advertising coverage," but I suspect this point is irrelevant. Lots of for-profit companies get a kind of publicity from their presence on Wikipedia, but this does not mean their articles/mentions in other articles warrant deletion. I did not include the information on this study as advertising for Men's Fitness.

3)The ranking apparently is not mentioned on any other city articles that were included in the ranking. It is given undue weight here.

This is also irrelevant. I added the information about Houston's repeated high position in this study because it is a valuable addition to the Houston article. This doesn't require me to also go through and add similar information to other articles. The fact that the Houston article does include this fact makes it a better article; the information should be added to others (maybe by you, if you think it is a glaring omission and have the time), not removed from the Houston article.

I am going to reinsert the "fattest city" section. Please do not remove it again without contacting me. Thanks, homie! Dunne409 (talk) 16:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Discuss this at the talk page, not here. Postoak (talk) 23:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Playin' Quarters...


I can't be neutral in this, but it turns out there is a Club Quarters that I created and a Club Quarters Hotel that someone did a few months later, I don't suppose you can merge and purge this in the appropriate way, could you? I saw it as I was trying to improve the "Hotel" version. Thanks.--Hourick (talk) 07:48, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured that would have been the better outcome. Just realized that it's going to be catty corner to the Fannin Station on the East line, so pretty soon (a year or so) will have to be completely refurbished. And yeh, it's totally cool. --Hourick (talk) 18:38, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

John Pershing

On the Pershing talk page, I mentioned, again the compromise proposal made by Father Goose, which is: "Nicknames: Black Jack (originally Nigger Jack). I listed the users who were in favor of this proposal, and I listed you as one of them. However, going back, I realise that you haven't commented there in some time. I realise that whilst you may still feel that way, you may have changed your mind, or may no longer be interested. I apologise if have erred in speaking for you, and invite you to comment, or strike any comment by me, as you feel appropriate. All the best-Mk5384 (talk) 07:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

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Police Chief

Just giving you a heads up, I'm working on an article about the new police chief Charles McClelland, Whispertome has been very helpful and I'm about ready to launch.

My Wiki OCD kicked in: Currently working on User:Hourick/Sam Nuchia and launched Harold Hurtt last night, Next is Betsy Watson, if you're interested.--Hourick (talk) 16:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)


So this evening I decided to try to "de-sandwich" some of the photos in the Galveston article (plus switch out some of the pics to "freshen" it up).. I think I just made things worse though, as now there is a wall of photos on the left... Sigh....I expanded some of the text, but feel free to revert as needed... Today has been just full of "win" for me...hahah --nsaum75¡שיחת! 07:20, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Guess who's back?

Our old friend Mmbabies is back! I caught him tonight at User talk: Quite frankly I'm tired of the hassle of dealing with him. I'll do what I can, but it's time to rally the troops. --Gridlock Joe (talk) 01:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Amazing. How long has this guy been dormant, about two years? I'm here to help, but many of my old watched pages were deleted. I may not know if he's up to new mischief. Thanks, Postoak (talk) 04:19, 20 May 2010 (UTC)


Cool.. Thanks. I linked the text to St. Mary's...I hope thats OK. How's everything in Htown?? --nsaum75¡שיחת! 14:13, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Clearwater is nice. Did you get a chance to travel down to the Naples area?? Sanibel Island is wonderful. I'm back in Mexico until the end of July...then off to Israel for a few weeks...with hopefully a short stop back in Texas sometime beforehand...It just depends on if its cheaper to fly to Israel via Rio de Janeiro or via Atlanta...US international airfare has become outragious! How's the Texas heat?? The rainy season is starting here, so its been nice and cool (plus being in the mountains helps)... --nsaum75¡שיחת! 22:31, 6 June 2010 (UTC)