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Hello, Twilight Helryx! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking Button sig.png or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! –xenotalk 19:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
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  • Noticed you've been here a while and no one rolled out the welcome wagon for you =) –xenotalk 19:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Awww, that's really nice of you; I didn't really expect such kindness. =3 Thanks for the welcome! <D--Twilight Helryx (talk) 19:43, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I like your WikiGryphon idea, why don't you develop the page here: User:Twilight Helryx/WikiGryphon. –xenotalk 19:45, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! I'll get to work right away. ^^--Twilight Helryx (talk) 19:50, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism and Rollback

Hello there, I hope you're well. If you want to get rollback then you'll need to show that you have plenty of experience fighting vandalism. If you wanted to, you could really screw up a page with rollback. So you need to show that you're trustworthy and that you're interested in fighting vandalism. You need to go to the recent changes list and start checking things out. One way, the slow way, is to check the edit history and then undo everything by hand. The better way to do it is to use Twinkle. It semi-automates the process for you. It's more or less like having rollback, but it will rollback for you, i.e. undo edits one-by-one until all of the edits by a vandal editor have been undone. Also, and very importantly, you can then go to the user's page and leave a vandalism warning. The warnings go up in levels. Level 1 to level 4. If they vandalise after level 4 then you report them (Twinkle helps you to do this too) and the admins will block them. For now start reading up about twinkle. Good luck. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 19:11, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I've looked at it and have switched it on. I think it'll be helpful though I'm not sure if it can mend my injured pride. :P Thanks again for recommending it! ^-^ --Twilight Helryx (talk) 19:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Don't let it get you down. Some of the admins can be brutal. Just check out requests for administratorship for some prime examples. I'm not sure what they're trying to prove, or to whom, but some of them can be very mean sometimes. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 16:49, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry, I've gotten over it. ;~) Thanks again for recommending Twinkle.--Twilight Helryx (talk) 16:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


[1]  ;) Cheers, AndrewGNF (talk) 17:18, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Heh, heh, you too. I needed an excuse to be clear about my gender as people tend to jump to the conclusion that all Bionicle fans are guys. <3--Twilight Helryx (talk) 17:21, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Funny, until now I had no idea what Bionicle was. Anyway, saw your science and biology userboxes. If you haven't already, check out WP:MCB. Lots of stuff to be done, great people, and tons to learn about. If you're interested... Cheers, AndrewGNF (talk) 17:33, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry, many people don't (though not so many that it isn't popular). ;) And sure, I'll go check the WikiProject out. Have a nice day!--Twilight Helryx (talk) 17:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


you seem the person for the job

lets get the paperwork signed

and you will be my adoptee

BigPadresDude 00:52, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I thought I was the adopter. *is confused* But I think that's what you meant, right? ^^"--Twilight Helryx (talk) 14:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Alrighty, I've taken it as such and have made it official. <3--Twilight Helryx (talk) 17:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

good i will add you the friends section on my userpage

do you like my userpage btw?

BigPadresDude 18:53, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

A:Yep, I do. ^-^ Give me a sec to go comment.--Twilight Helryx (talk) 18:54, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

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For signing my guestbook - I, BigPadresDUDE, hearby present you with this unique barnstar. Thanks for reviewing my userpage and hoped you enjoyed it. Happy Editing:)--BigPadresDude 02:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

here ya go thanks for signing the guestbook here is your award BigPadresDude 19:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Lol! Thanks! X3--Twilight Helryx (talk) 19:12, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

No problem BigPadresDude 19:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

psp s&l page

cheers for the revert mate :) chocobogamer mine 23:53, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Anytime! <D I was looking at the RPP page when I saw your report saying you were out of reverts so since I don't have any for that page, I thought that I might as well do it. You'd also be happy to know that I've given that guy a little piece of my mind (which you can see on this page). ;3 --Twilight Helryx (talk) 23:57, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
cheers mate, means a lot to know other people look out for other articles having problems. i wasn't going to shoot myself in the foot by breaking 3RR to protect the page from vandalism lol. im guessing he deleted it as soon as he saw it on his talk page lol chocobogamer mine 00:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
No problem. And, luckily for him(?), he didn't delete it. If he did, he'd get not only a reversion, but another warning from me (for removing talk page comments). <P. If there's anything else you need, please feel free to contact me again. ^-^ Cheers to you too!--Twilight Helryx (talk) 00:31, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Adoption Acceptance

Thanks! Now i'm just gonna find out where to accept my adoption. --SpringfieldHighWildcats (talk) 22:04, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

You already did. There isn't any special page for accepting so acceptance is simply proclaimed. However, I will change the template so that it says that you have been adopted by me. <3--Twilight Helryx (talk) 22:14, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
You have been officially adopted! Just take a look at your userpage and you'll see what I mean. ;3 --Twilight Helryx (talk) 22:17, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


Hi. I've added the flag for you per your request. Please review WP:ROLLBACK in full and feel free to ask me for any help. Pedro :  Chat  22:21, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you very much!--Twilight Helryx (talk) 15:44, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

hi adopter, i have question!

Hey again! I was wondering. If I keep putting one of my edits back up and it keeps getting rejected, is there a way to be sure it stays? I was editing Pointillism, and I added to the section on the page about notable pointillist artists (it is a type of art) Yakov Smirnoff, who did a pointillist painting about September 11, and it keeps getting removed. Can you help? --SpringfieldHighWildcats (talk) 20:50, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

You may want to discuss the matter with other editors on the article's talk page and discuss it with other users. Hope this helps.--Twilight Helryx (talk) 03:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Another thing: if you do believe that Yakov Smirnoff is notable enough, be sure to state why you're adding him in the edit summary so other users know why you did so. If it still gets removed, you can try listing your reasons on the talk page. I had a similar experience on Bionicle: The Legend Reborn. Here's what I did [2]--Twilight Helryx (talk) 14:10, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey from your new adoptee!

Hey Twi! Thanks so much for adopting me! I'll start reading th material you posted. I'll be in touch!

Markn951 (talk) 01:12, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Anytime, Mark! <3--Twilight Helryx (talk) 03:35, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


I noticed your adopting people. Good job! How did you get so good at adopting people and you have only been on since August?--Coldplay Expert 23:47, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Lol! Thanks! I just check up on the Users seeking adoption page to see if anyone needs an adopter. The rest, I let nature take its course. To tell you the truth, most of the stuff I know are self-taught; I didn't know the "adopt-a-user" project existed when I first started so I learned the old-fashioned way (i.e. I did basic editing and learned everything else by watching other users and learning from my mistakes). So, there you have it. A good day to you! <3 --Twilight Helryx (talk) 23:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


Hello Helryx (can I call you that?) I wouldn't mind being adopted by you, you look friendly and experienced enough.--Jakkinx Happy Thanksgiving! 01:27, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Sure, you can abbreviate my user name any way you like. I'll go right ahead and make it official. ^-^--Twilight Helryx (talk) 01:29, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:Unity-Duty-Destiny.jpg

File Copyright problem

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If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. FASTILYsock (TALK) 00:08, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for pointing that out to me.--Twilight Helryx (talk) 17:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


The project now has a more defined idea of what we plan to do. Basically, we're calling for individual proposals on how to improve Wikipedia. Please help by posting your new ideas! –Juliancolton | Talk 21:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC) (Cross-posting)


I will try my best to help. I will also do some research on him (he is the one of few Bionicles I know little about). Thanks for the message and the help. :-) BIONICLE233 18:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

No problem! <3--Twilight Helryx 20:32, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

teridax pics

what about putting some teridax pictures on the page? It may complete the look of the page and bionicle sector 01 has some great pictures of him. BIONICLE233 14:30, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Sure, why not? =3 --Twilight Helryx 14:55, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

actually I just found out I can't. pics from BS01 don't work on wikipedia. they have to be from the same wiki. sorry BIONICLE233 14:36, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, well, you can trying saving it to your files and then uploading it here. However, I'm not sure whether or not an image used in a Sandbox would be allowed to stay. If it doesn't get deleted, be sure to follow Wikipedia's fair use policy. Anyway, it's not important right now as a lot of similar articles made do without one. ;)--Twilight Helryx 21:10, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

thanks. i'll try it just to see how it looks. do you have a idea when you want to summit the article to the wiki? BIONICLE233 19:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

As soon as it fulfills Wikipedia guidelines. ;) --Twilight Helryx 19:50, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Your signature

Just fyi, your signature links to User talk:Twilight instead of your talk page. Cheers, --Meaghan guess who :) 17:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Yikes, you're right! Thanks for pointing that out. ^^" --Twilight Helryx 18:12, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


Hey Helryx I noticed the Makuta article doesn't seem to be up to date, since Makuta currently inhabits the robot body of Mata Nui on Aqua Magna, but as far as I could tell, that wasn't mentioned. I'm not back from my Wikibreak yet (look for me at Christmas) but I am doing monthly message checks. :) --Jakkinx Happy Thanksgiving! 05:41, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Replied.--Twilight Helryx 20:49, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Indeed. I don't follow the series obsessively, but I do read the comics and try to keep up to date. However, I don't really know enough of the complexities of the storyline to make any large contributions, as the books series usually contains important information that I cannot get my hands on, and there is no main source of evidence (movie, novel) to check everything else against. But I didn't expect you to rush to the rescue of the article like the supergirl you are! :)--Jakkinx Happy Thanksgiving! 16:52, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
*blushes* =3 Replied.--Twilight Helryx 17:19, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Hah, I do know where to find them, I just never have the time or funds (so many). However, I do manage to keep a general knowledge of the storyline (though I do have gaps, such as the Metru Nui section), though I have never heard of Toa Helryx (sounds really awesome though, what are his/her powers?). As for the Legends Reborn movie, I saw some of the clips, and the combat scenes definetly looked good (actual fighitng, not just blasts of fire and ice), but I can imagine how bad it must be in other places. However, it is possible as you grow older, some parts of Bionicle will not delight you as they did before. However, I for one simply MUST see the new release in 2009, as it looks awesome (Cosmic Toa, anyone? :). However, I hope that the Makuta/Mata Nui battle will be properly epic and proportioned, as Makuta is now a UNIVERSE for goodness sake. Still, I never knew the Toa and matoran where actually INSIDE Mata Nui's body...anyway, I'll stop talking now and leave you to your fantastic work as a Wikipedian. I am almost certain I will be back from Wikibreak by Christmas too, so look for me then! ;)--Jakkinx Happy Thanksgiving! 16:45, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Replied.--Twilight Helryx 17:59, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


He scrubbed in three articles, historical texts with reliable references, including references to wikipedia is more accustomed too. Articles:

  • Art rock
  • Psychedelic rock
  • Progressive rock

All the texts that he claimed are opinions, and that the references (serious by the way) were placed for convenience to my opinions. I'm musicologist, musician, researcher seriously.

My text Psychedelic rock first: In August 1964, Beach Boys releases two singles, When I Grow Up (To Be a Man) / She Knows Me Too Well with a sophistication unusual for the time, and were placed on albums in 1965, Today! and Summer Days (And Summer Nights!), which contains introspective and experimental music with elements of classical music . It has since come to light, and has long been freely admitted to by Brian Wilson, that he had begun using marijuana during december 1964 as a stress reliever, and once he realized the profound effect it had on the way he perceived music, Wilson became a regular user.Wilson, Brian / Gold, Todd (1991). "Would not It Be Nice - My Own Story

See the references that I'm not lying, and is a justice to the pioneering groups. All of these articles cited The Beatles, but I showed, The Beach Boys in 1964, 1965 and 1966 were already with albums and songs that contain musical experimentation, indeed, much more experimentation before The Beatles. Interestingly in the texts that I wrote, I said that not one was experimental more than the other, just to avoid claims. These three articles refer to the music of avant-garde and experimental ...

See the article mentioning the progressive rock (precursors) Sgt Peppers (1967), Rubber Soul (1965) and Revolver (1966) (all of the Beatles) ... But he erased my text showing thePet Sounds and its experimentalism. Pet Sounds (Beach Boys) is 1966, and Sgt Peppers is 1967. The funny thing is that Rubber Soul of 1965 (The Beatles) is cited in this file, and, The Beach Boys albums in 1965 (Today and Summer Days), are experimental more. But still I did not say to avoid claims .

If you want to search the data sheet of the albums and compare the amount of instruments used by Beach Boys, is gigantic. In my text just said that these materials of the Beach Boys since 1965 contained strong elements of classical music and dismissed him. I'm subscribed to classical music portal (lusofone wikipedia). My problem is not having a good English(I'm from Brasil), and if you find that a word was misplaced, you can change the words that may sound pretentious. Can you to recover the reversal made by the user on the three articles? I spent hours and hours researching, to he to delete and call me opinionative.

Article progressive rock that was deleted too.

Look at the source: . In another addition to any other source in the article that art rock show that Paul McCartney took the influence of Pet Sounds About Sg. Peppers The Beatles. Including George Martin said that without Pet Sounds, Sgt Peppers would not have happened.

Sgt Peppers is quoted in the article as a progressive rock precursor. The article also cites the Rubber Soul claiming to have experimentalism ... So I mentioned The Beach Boys album of 1965 even before the cast Help and Rubber soul, claiming to have elements classical music experimentalism . They by them. (Mago266 (talk) 05:20, 20 November 2009 (UTC))

What do I do? Can I to show you the amended texts to approve? You can to show me amended texts too, This is a idea . If you to approve, you can to place on articles. Greetings!(Mago266 (talk) 05:27, 20 November 2009 (UTC))

Hello there. Hmm, I think I would like to see how you wrote it. However, as I currently cannot access any site besides Wikipedia and a few others, you may wish to find someone else who can review those references. If you like, I can ask another user to verify them. Cheers!--Twilight Helryx 14:13, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
If he wants he is more then welcome to do the proper thing and start discussion on the articles talk pages. At this point he has had at least 3 editors undohis work on various articles. Ridernyc (talk) 14:30, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Ridernyc, I had no intention to offend you. I just felt discouraged. And I understand your reasons because you want the best for wikipedia. I have difficulty in English, and I do not know which words have pretensions. Twilight, You can ask another user to verify them. This is a good idea. (Mago266 (talk) 21:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC))

Okay, I'll try. And taking Rider's advice would also be beneficial. ;) So go ahead, show those sites on the articles' talk pages and let others tell you what they see and think should be done. =) --Twilight Helryx 13:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
I've left a request for review at the talk page for WikiProject Music. I believe that someone should be attending to it shortly. =) --Twilight Helryx 13:59, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
I read the request on the WikiProject Music page. The dooyoo and allmusic pages are review pages, so they can't be sourced for information donating to these articles. The third one is from BBC, and BBC pagges can be sourced. However, passages such as "Sgt Pepper, with its innovative production... quirky meters, immaculate melodies, printed lyrics... and cover artwork that defined a generation...", along with other passages in the article, make me concerned about the non-neutrality of the article. Despite that, it is somewhat well written, if you ask me. Also, I have never associated The Beach Boys with progressive rock or the precursing to progressive rock, so that is another thing I am concerned about. It is a somewhat substantial page, but I don't know if it is worth sourcing. I think that there should be additional opinions concerning this page; also, if the Beach Boys are indeed precursors of progressive rock (something that I really can't agree with, as hinted at earlier), then there should be other sources introduced on wikipedia to confirm that. As for the fourth source, I would vote against sourcing it, considering how it is on an official website. Thanks. BacktableSpeak to Meabout what I have done 19:59, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to add it was not just the progressive rock article he tried to add this info to. He also added it to Art Rock and I think one other article. I think any time he sees Sgt. Pepper mentioned he tries to add this big section on Brian Wilson and Pet Sounds.Ridernyc (talk) 21:27, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your time, Backtable. Your help and comment is much appreciated.--Twilight Helryx 20:07, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I am happy to be of service in that manner. BacktableSpeak to Meabout what I have done 20:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Why cite Rubber Soul and Revolver in Article prog rock?

The album Today! and Summer Days (Beach Boys) are more experimental than the Rubber Soul. Pet Sounds is more experimental than Revolver and Sgt Peppers together.

The experimentation is essential to understand the pioneering art rock and prog rock.

In art rock can exclude the passage of the text on 1964, and leave only about the Pet Sounds that I wrote. But the article psychdelic rock is good to leave the passage of 1964 and 1965 albums .... : In 1964 the single When I Grow Up (To Be a Man) has a harpsichord, melodramatic passages and sophisticated harmonies. It was during this period that Brian is using marijuana, which he said caused senseções in the form of writing.

But the article art rock may leave my text about Pet Sounds only. However rewritten, excluding the phrase definition of the genre.

Here is better: (article art rock)

The Beach Boys release Pet Sounds album (1966) with its experimentalism ,the musical structure and production. The Beatles have said that Pet Sounds was a major influence on their album Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Mago266 (talk) 22:45, 21 November 2009 (UTC))

In Article prog rock, my text is good, and is not pretentious.

But it may be this:

The earliest traces of progressive rock can be seen in such albums as Pet Sounds (1966), by the Beach Boys, with its experimental musical structure, production and sophistication.Smile Unrealized (1967) and Smiley Smile (1967) and, The Beach Boys 1965 albums with elements of classical music, use orchestral arrangements, melodies and harmonies sophisticated on The Beach Boys Today![4] and Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) with harpsichord, zither, among other instruments.

Technical information Today! :

Woodblocks, temple block, bell-tree, tambourine, Timpani, Conga drums, sleigh bells, Triangle, Clave, Castanet, Vibraphone, Timbales, English Horn French Horn, Tenor Sax, Baritone sax, Harpsichord, Harp, Piano, Electric piano, Accordion, Mandolin, ukulele, zither (autoharp), Harmonic, Acoustic Guitar, electric bass guitar, Electric guitar, drums, organ, upright piano, 12 string guitar, tack piano.

Technical information Summer Days (And Summer Nights)  :

Vibraphone, tambourine, Castanet, Timbales, Claves, upright Bass, Tenor Saxophone, baritone saxophone, Piano,Trumpet, Celesta, ukulele, harmonica, Viola, French Horn, Violin (various), Electric guitar, electric bass, drums, carnival barker, 12 string guitar, handclaps . (Mago266 (talk) 00:44, 22 November 2009 (UTC))

Technical information Rubber Soul:

Electric guitar, electric piano, piano, guitar,bass guitar, drums, sitar, hammond organ, harmonium, percussion.

So, why Rubber Soul only is cited on prog rock ?

Today! and Summer Days are experimental more! (Mago266 (talk) 00:52, 22 November 2009 (UTC))

Those are some nice writings you've got there, Mago. I think it would be even better for you to place those and their sources on their respective articles' talk pages. That way, you will have more suitable people to review them. ;) But, ignoring the fact that I cannot actually see the sources, what you intend to write looks good. =)

Oh yes, and one more thing: has it been explicitly stated (from an unbiased source) that Today! and Summer Days are "more experimental"? If not, then that would be original research and cannot be added. Same goes for everything else.--Twilight Helryx 00:58, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right.Thank you for your attention, very much.

I'll wait you there on the talk pages . Greetings! (Mago266 (talk) 01:06, 22 November 2009 (UTC))

Hehheh, happy to help. <3 I'll monitor the talk pages to see how things go.--Twilight Helryx 01:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Here art rock talk. Greetings! (Mago266 (talk) 02:43, 22 November 2009 (UTC))

Alright! Keeping watch.--Twilight Helryx 14:46, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I had no answers on the last reference. It is a book that directly links-style art rock. You like it? (Mago266 (talk) 03:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC))

Unfortunately, I was forced to get off the computer yesterday before I could look at it. Sorry. Next time I have full access, this will be the first thing I do.--Twilight Helryx 12:44, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Secret Saturdays

Okay, rather than play revision tag with you, I want to get on the same page with you. If you could just ping me on my talk that you've responded that would help me get back with you faster.

Jay Stephens, in a Toonzone post has clarified that there are just two seasons. We know this account to be authentic because his personal site links to his blog which contains a comment in which he verifies the account.

I did check the pre-Nov 7 TSS episodes page but did not find any links where he referred to a "season three" but several in which he referred to the "new season" which was coming up.

And finally, Cartoon Network's official site has, under TSS videos, full episodes for viewing, seasons one and two. Kur pt 1 and Kur pt 2 are under Season 2 there, not a third season.

So what say you? Can we get the episode list corrected? Ought either his blog or CN's site be cited? I know from the discussion page somewhere there was an interview someone did with Jay posted on a account where Jay also refers to the first twenty-six episodes as a single season, and he comments on the interview's post with his Jay account and it's to correct on a name, not to deny the interview.Grand Commander13 (talk) 23:35, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Um, you do know I only reverted one of your edits right? Because, I didn't do anything else afterwards... If the info's correct, then go ahead, edit. If you want people to know about these sources, you can tell us about in by placing the info (as well as the source's address) in a hidden comment. You can create a hidden comment by typing the message between these:<!-- Place comment here -->. It will then be visible to anyone who edits (and checks the diffs). Cheers!--Twilight Helryx 23:59, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
I already had my pow-wow with the other dude who reverted my edit. ^_^ Sounds good, and nice tip on the comment. I'll pack in the reference to Cartoon Network then. Good times!Grand Commander13 (talk) 01:24, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

You too. Sorry about that; I haven't been able to access ToonZones for a while (I'm Twilight_Star there, by the way =3).--Twilight Helryx 01:29, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Red Star


Red Star

Congratulations, Jade Harley! It's my pleasure to award you November 24, 2009's Red Star for being hard working, kind to others, and for being an excellent user in general. A record of this award will always be kept at User:Meaghan/Shining Stars. Enjoy! Meaghan the vanilla twilight 01:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

You could also receive the next higher up award, the Orange Star!

Wow, my first real award. I never thought I'd ever get one in a zillion years. 0.0 Well, I'm honored Meaghan, and am always happy to be of service. ^-^ --Twilight Helryx 01:41, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I think that you got this for saveing me from..well myself! Anyway, congrats!--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:32, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


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Replied there.--Twilight Helryx 20:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
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Why do I have 32 people watching my talk page! I like it but I want to know why? (Do you watch my page?)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 20:41, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

*smiles sheepishly* Well yeah, but I only started yesterday. As for all the talk page stalkers, I guess maybe you're just popular?--Twilight Helryx 20:44, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

You dont have to unwatch my page. (After all you did fix and answer that question it when that IP messed it up) Spongefrog has like 37 though.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 20:47, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

That's a lot of stalkers. X3 I think I only have two or three (or four) but some of them may have stopped watching. Ah well, that's not important. No one really pays attention to how many centijimbos you have. Anyway, I think we should stop talking lest another WikiVampire chomp us for "MySpacing". *looks around nervously* --Twilight Helryx 20:51, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
OK well thanks for watching my page. PS I watch your as well :)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 20:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Lol, I suspected that (you're that number four X3). --Twilight Helryx 20:55, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


To search for associated content page : Pet Sounds and the Birth of Art-Rock. I can not post the link because it is blacklisted from wikipedia. I do not know how to request the unlock. (Mago266 (talk) 03:20, 25 November 2009 (UTC))

You can request it be removed from the blacklist here. Sorry I'm so handicapped right now. D= --Twilight Helryx 03:29, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Read it,the article makes no,mention of Art Rock. It's just a very misleading title on the article. Again if this could be sourced we would not have to be digging so hard for sources. This is one of the most written about albums in history yet we can not find one mention of it influencing art rock. Ridernyc (talk) 03:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I can't right now as I currently have access to only a handful of select sites. I might have full access on Thanksgiving but I'll have to wait and see. Until then, I'm staying out of this. Mago, just pick one related source and only write down the things it exactly says. Again, do not add anything that is not stated explicitly. If it doesn't Art rock, don't put anything in art rock, nor mention art rock anywhere else. Same goes for the others.--Twilight Helryx 03:51, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi my friend, I edited art rock with good sources.

Here: According Carys Wyn Jones in his book The rock canon: canonical values in the reception of rock albums, art rock is a period of rock music starting with the artistic ambitions of Pet Sounds or Sgt Peppers.[3]

History : 1960s-1970s

In 1966 The Beach Boys released the Pet Sounds album by Brian Wilson, contributing to a further period of rock music with artistic ambitions, in its detailed, multi-layered arrangements, into a symphonic whole.[10][11]

The source [3] and [10] are the same, and [11] is All Music about in its detailed, multi-layered arrangements, into a symphonic whole.

Do you liked? (Mago266 (talk) 20:23, 5 December 2009 (UTC)) I am available to a user adoption here Can you adoptme? Ridernyc deleted again, but my last source connected directly to the Art rock name and was not original research. (Mago266 (talk) 03:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC))

Sure, why not? I'll send my package over in a sec. =) --Twilight Helryx 17:49, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank's. My last text was good, but this situation is difficult and embarrassing. I was giving up again, but you gave me strength to continue. (Mago266 (talk) 20:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC))

Alright! I've just sent a list of my courses over. If it's all right with you, I'll go ahead and make the adoption official. <3 --Twilight Helryx 20:57, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I wanna these:

  1. Gnome Work: Choose this if you wish to primarily contribute by making small edits.
  2. Vandal Fighting: Choose this to learn how to deal with vandals more efficiently.
  3. Communication: Choose this to learn how to handle edit disputes, deal with biting editors, keep cool when the editing gets hot, and many others.

(Mago266 (talk) 23:12, 10 December 2009 (UTC))

Okay, getting Lesson 01 ready.--Twilight Helryx 23:44, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I 'm traveling and I can't to access wikipedia for this time. Mago266 talk (Mago266 (talk) 01:15, 29 December 2009 (UTC))

I think that you should have this.

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I am amazed at your abilities to be an awsome editor and yet you have been here for a few months! Good Job! Coldplay Expért Let's talk 22:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Aww, thanks! You're a pretty awesome editor yourself, you know. =3 --Twilight Helryx 22:39, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

That may be true, but I originally was'nt. Take a look at my block log and my early contribs. Thats why I never got one of these.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 22:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Looked at the log but I only saw one and I'm assuming that one was misguided since the don't have any socks and the sockpuppet investigation proves it. The other one was intended for someone else and got removed. But even if the former does stick, who cares? What matters is what you do now, not what happened in the past. If we all dwelled on that, a loooooooot of users would be squashed by now. ;) Don't worry, I believe that those contributions were simply the result of inexperience; more people than you may know go through that. I simply had the good fortune to initially be one of those who wish to remain out-of-sight (i.e. I was extremely wary about giant edits and editing outside my comfort zone). Of course, as you may infer from my recent edits, that's no longer the case with me. =P --Twilight Helryx 23:02, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I guess your right but my early history and that block will be Major issues in any future RFA.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 23:10, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

And I think those issues can be easily addressed; the block for being wrongly given and the early edits for being inexperience. To be honest, I don't think any sensible person would use early edits as "evidence" that you won't be a good admin because many people make the same mistakes when they start out. ;) Cheers!--Twilight Helryx 23:16, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh duh! I cant belive I never thought of that! Anyway, have you ever though about going up for an RFA in the future? --Coldplay Expért Let's talk 23:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, especially give how AIV reports sometimes sit there for a frustratingly long time among other issues. But I'm not going to until I'm positive I'm really ready. For now, I'm just going to bulk up my resume, observe other's RfA's, and grow from experience. ;3 --Twilight Helryx 23:27, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Thats nice. I not have a gradeing criteria for any RFA's that I !vote in. User:Coldplay Expert/RFA Standards. Once I meet all of my requirements ill think about going up for one.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 23:59, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Good plan. =) --Twilight Helryx 00:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Man I just looked at my comments and theres tons of typos. it makes me look like I have the spelling of a 3 yr old!--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 01:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Lol! Happens to the best of us. <3 I'll be shutting up now so I don't get you into any trouble. --Twilight Helryx 01:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)


I noticed that you have that page up for GA status. I think that its funny that your goals are to get Bionicle related articles to GA and maybe FA status and for me, World War II related articles to GA and FA status. Anyway if you ever are in need of help in the upcomming GAN (fixing refs, typos, grammar ect) just ask, ill be happy to help. (As long as I get some im just playing)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 01:24, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Heh, well, I just think that it's a pity two of the articles were demoted and I think the main article deserves FA status. But just to let you know, I'm also working on Spix's Macaw (which you can see on my To-Do list) and African Grey. However, they are both in need of clean-up which I am working on right now. Do you happen to know anything about these parrots? I don't have a problem with African Grey (because I have a book here), but I don't have access any sources for Spix's Macaw at the moment.--Twilight Helryx 01:28, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
To be honest, African Grey just needs more citations, which I don't really have much access to (and the info from the book I have won't be of much help here).--Twilight Helryx 01:31, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry im not that much into parrots. Just Coldplay and Warfare :) Odd combination isnt it?--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 01:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Hehheh, kinda. But then, so's Bionicle and parrots. X3 I'm not sure if Spix's Macaw still needs clean-up, but I can't request a peer review until tag's gone. But I won't remove that tag until I'm positive. Do you think you can give me a second opinion?--Twilight Helryx 01:37, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Sure if you want.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 01:39, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

'Kay. Please tell me what you think. And if you like, I'll go see if I can pitch in on WWII.--Twilight Helryx 01:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

OK, here's what I noticed.
  • You may want to put some ref's on the first paraghraph as it is the into to the whole article.
  • The main picture of the animal is a terrible version. That needs to be fixed.
  • Speaking aobut ref's the whole article is lacking several ref's as there are only 6.
  • You may want to change "History and Conservation Efforts" to two seperate sections, "History" and "Conservation Efforts'.
  • Other than that, It looks good, its kinda and lacking ref's short but an article is an article.

I hope that helps :)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 01:51, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Thank you very much. I might be able to address some of the issues now and the rest tomorrow (when I have full access). Cheers!--Twilight Helryx 01:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Oh dont mention it! and as for the WWII artilce, I think that we got everything down exept getting rid of duplacate links to new articles (es seeing a blue link for Romaina once and then seeing it again as a blue link a rew paragraphs later) So tahts what im not focusing on now.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, noticed that on the GA page. I'll see if I can clean that up.--Twilight Helryx 02:06, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

There's more too! There's more!! Lots more! (speaking of WWII, I noticed we've been editing it at the same time. I hope I haven't edit conflicted you) Lord Spongefrog, (Talk to me, or I'll eat your liver!) 21:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Heh, well once; but don't worry, I was just getting rid of a dupe link so it was easy to redo. ;) I'm more worried about edit-conflicting you because it's so hard to keep track of citations on the edit page, so I hope I didn't cause any for you. D= --Twilight Helryx 21:53, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Wow it sure does look like everyone's chiping in on that article thanks guys!--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 00:29, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Anytime, Coldplay. ^-^ --Twilight Helryx 01:09, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!

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Coldplay Expért Let's talk has given you a Turkey! Turkeys promate WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a turkey, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy Thanksgiving!

Spread the goodness of turkey by adding {{subst:User:December21st2012Freak/Thanksgiving Turkey}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 16:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks! <3 Right back at ya.--Twilight Helryx 21:29, 26 November 2009 (UTC)


Hey, thanks for adopting me! I really need help in some things. I know I may be old at Wikipedia, but I have a brain of a new user! Thanks for adopting me, I totally accept it!--RatónBat Talk 2 me!! 00:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Anytime. <3 Sending you my program information.--Twilight Helryx 02:09, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I need help right now

I put an enforced wikibreak on myself! I cant log in. (Im editing from my IP in case you didnt know) take a look at Meaghan's talk page I have told her as well. Please help me Twilight (I may need to confirm that I am me thougt. something which I never thought about...)-- (talk) 02:45, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Wait, Coldplay? Yikes! I'm going to go see if there's any way to turn it off.--Twilight Helryx 02:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes its me. Otherwise I would have no clue how to find you. and dont bother I already tried :( I cant edit untill 2:35 AM tomorow. Oh well Ill be sleeping for those 8 hours but still!-- (talk) 02:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Ouch! Yeah, I've just learned that. Sorry. D= --Twilight Helryx 03:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh well...Good night. (Good thing I didnt set it to 2010 like I was going to do, to see if it worked) Tomorow, ill post a message on my talk page describing this odd experiance.-- (talk) 03:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, good thing. ^^" I wonder if an admin or bureaucrat can turn it off in that situation. I'm going to get off in a few minutes, so later!--Twilight Helryx 03:05, 1 December 2009 (UTC)


Umm... I would like to have a sort of mix in the trainibgs. I would like to be a gnome worker and a project worker (help in projects). So, can I have the mix? Cya!--RatónBat Talk 2 me!! 19:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Sure. I'm going to separate those into two lessons, so I'll get to work on the lesson pages. Cheers!--Twilight Helryx 20:37, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I understand

Yeah, I understood everything from the lesson 01!--RatónBat Talk 2 me!! 00:21, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

This is only random information about me: Did you know my brother was named in the Wikipedia sign post? Click here and see it (at the four award part)!--RatónBat Talk 2 me!! 00:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

That's great; I'm happy for both of you. =) Now that you've understood my lesson, I will prepare an assignment for you. Once it's ready, I will drop you a message. Cheers!--Twilight Helryx 03:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Alex the parrot--retracting Dr. Terrace?


I am curious why you removed the additional quotation I provided on Dr. Terrace's stance in respect to Alex the parrot's abilities. I quoted him directly out of the same NYT article that was originally cited at the end of the sentence.

Perhaps it was not useful? I think it might have been, because it clarifies that Dr. Terrace thought Alex discriminated between different stimuli provided to him (simple questions with vocabulary he knew, food, etc.) and vocalized associated words that he had been taught, so Terrace would contend that Alex did not necessarily reflect on information beyond memorized associations immediately related to the current stimulus.

I might be overthinking this, but I'd just be curious to get your perspective. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sisyphustkd (talkcontribs) 04:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...I think I might have misread the sentence; I was pretty tired yesterday so I accidentally (and quite embarrassingly) misread it as Pepperburg saying it. So, I'll revert my revert. Sorry. x.x"

Oh and next time, please sign your comments. You can do so by typing four tildes (~~~~) at the end. Thank you.--Twilight Helryx 20:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


Hey, I've finished the gnome work task! What's next??--RatónBat Talk 2 me!! 22:44, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Good job! You did excellently. Just remember to check the "minor edit" box when you make such edits (which pretty much comprise gnoming). Keep up the good work. In the meantime, I'll get your next lesson (WikiProjects) ready. =) --Twilight Helryx 22:52, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Your Training program

Hey, I would like to be part of the Gnome Work program. I am not a very frequent visitor, and after this month of being here I have found that gnome work is easy and well within my comfort zone. Thanks!
MαЯκи951 (talk) 02:03, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Gnome work can be easy and fun. (I do it all the time) Good to know that your makeong progress in adopting users Twilight! PS you could apply for Account Creation but then again you may not be interested :)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:30, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Mark! Nice to see you again. I'll get the page ready in a second. =) --Twilight Helryx 19:31, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Adoption Confirmed

I accept your adoption for user simplecorbin377

--Simplecorbin377 (talk) 22:14, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Alright, sending the course info over.--Twilight Helryx 22:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Adoption Confirmed

Thank you for offering me adoption. I'd be glad to accept. I've been looking for an adopter for awhile. Thanks again. --ҚЯĀŽΨÇÉV13 20:04, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Anytime. Sending the course info over.--Twilight Helryx 20:10, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to work on Communication primarily. Whenever I try to explain someone that they're starting an edit war or their edit isn't necessary, I get a very rude response. I've nearly broken 3RR several times, but I try to avoid that. --ҚЯĀŽΨÇÉV13 20:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay, preparing the page (this may take a while).--Twilight Helryx 20:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Uh, what page? I'm new to adoption. --ҚЯĀŽΨÇÉV13 20:40, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Your lesson page. ;) Still constructing it.--Twilight Helryx 20:43, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

(facepalm) Oh. Ok. --ҚЯĀŽΨÇÉV13 20:48, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Page move

'Ello. I recently moved a page you created, Twilight Helryx/Training/krazycev13/Lesson01, to your userspace, User:Twilight Helryx/Training/krazycev13/Lesson01, as I assume by the title you intended to place it there, but just forget to put "User:" at the beginning of the title. Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 21:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Oops, seems that I moved the page a tad too late, right after you did. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 21:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Heheh, yeah. I honestly don't know how "User" disappeared (I did type that in when I was about to create it). I'm going to request the redirect for deletion so it doesn't crowd up the mainspace.--Twilight Helryx 21:13, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, that's odd. FYI I already did that, so it should be a'okay. Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 21:15, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Lol! Checking the history, we've both did that. =P --Twilight Helryx 21:25, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

RE:First Lesson

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Could you PLEASE try to de-escalate a little? It seems pointless to re-do the same exact ridiculous kibuki theater as last night. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:18, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

In case it wasn't clear, re-adding the same bear-poking snide {{done}} template is HURTING not HELPING. Please stop. Why the insistence to get the last word in a smoldering situation??? --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, please stop posting there. Majorly talk 16:21, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Look, I'm not in there anymore. Besides, only two of my messages were directed at him. And I was only showing I complied. I didn't know that was hurtful. Sorry! Can't you guys assume good faith?--Twilight Helryx 16:24, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
And if you mean the second time, it was only because I didn't realize it was reverted; I thought I missed and, again, was trying to show I complied.--Twilight Helryx 16:26, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
My second comment was, indeed, because I thought you were re-adding it intentionally. I understand now, I've struck the second comment. Thanks for backing off the page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:30, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome. I should learn when not to get involved, even if I'm trying to help the user (I was there to give him some advice in a non-insulting way; I apologize if I was unintentionally blunt). -_-" --Twilight Helryx 16:37, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Your edit

You know Bionicle stuff, and I know Ben10 stuff. Don't correct me on the fact that I was giving additional information to the post. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Retep dnesnwot (talkcontribs) 04:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

You're not the only one who knows "Ben 10 stuff"; I've been watching the series since the original first came out. Just because I didn't mention it doesn't mean I'm not a devout fan, so next time think twice before making accusations. Fangface is not the name of the Omnitrix alien; it's a name used for the video game enemy. If you're concerned about the video game enemies not being mentioned, rest assured that it's already present in List of villains in Ben 10#Yenaldooshi, where it should go. But if it's been mentioned by a reliable source that Ben Wolf is also called "Fangface", please provide it. Otherwise, your conclusion is original research and does not belong here.

By the way, next time, please sign your comments. You can do so by typing four tildes (~~~~) at the end. Thank you.--Twilight Helryx 04:15, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: careful

Thanks for the note. It should be noted that a lot of my edits have been userspace merely because of the Bacon WikiCup, which is a bacon-themed version of the Wikipedia:WikiCup. For the Bacon Challenge 2010 we are building articles in userspaces only to reserve them for a grand debut in the mainspace in March next year. I am also the scorekeeper, and I therefore also spend a lot of edits keeping up with the points. On another note, the WikiComedy in my userspace is a one-off project of mine compiling my favorite funny edits of 2009. When these projects are finished with, it is possible that things will go back to normal.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 04:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

I understand. Just be sure the conversations have something to do with improving Wikipedia; I saw a lot of socializing edits and got worried. ;) Excuse me for answering this so late, I was busy lately and got so many new messages, I over-looked this one. x.x" Merry Christmas!--Twilight Helryx 17:11, 25 December 2009 (UTC)


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Repeat Red Star


Repeat Red Star

Congratulations, Jade Harley! The first nine Red Stars of each cycle will consist of repeats from the previous cycle. The repeats will be users who did not receive the Orange Star. It's my pleasure to give you another shot at receiving the Orange Star today, on December 16, 2009! Keep up the great work! A record of this award will always be kept at User:Meaghan/Shining Stars. Enjoy! Meaghan the vanilla twilight 00:02, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Meaghan! ^^ --Twilight Helryx 01:31, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Bionicle 2009-2011

As there is no Bionicle book series for 2009-2011, there is an obvious problem as to where te story summary should lie. Personally, I'd advocate adding it to the "Bionicle- Legends" page. What do you think? --Kopaka Teridax (talk) 01:36, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Especially given that on the inside pages of raid on Vulcanus, the book was titled as Bionicle Legends.--Twilight Helryx 19:12, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Alright. BTW, I saw that you play Spore, I do too. My username is PrinceShu. --Kopaka Teridax (talk) 20:38, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Cool. :) --Twilight Helryx 01:30, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:World War II/GA1

Well there are about 10 more problems left (as noted by the reviewer at the bottom). I need all the help that I can on the final push to get this GAN passed. If you can help in anyway at all I would love it. Thanks--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

I would love to. Unfortunately, it is my good luck to have something important go on in real life just when I'm needed most. I'm sorry, but I can't help until Christmas. :'( --Twilight Helryx 19:09, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Its ok. I still have Paul Siebert. You may also want to put the wikibreak tag at the top of your page :)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 19:13, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Orange Star

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Orange Star

Congratulations, Jade Harley! Within the past three days, you received the Red Star for being hard working, kind to others, and for being an excellent user in general. You've now been chosen to receive the next higher up award, the Orange Star. A record of this award will always be kept at User:Meaghan/Shining Stars. Enjoy! Meaghan - Merry Christmas! - 02:44, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

You could also receive the next higher up award, the Yellow Star!

Thanks, Meaghan. <3 Merry Christmas!--Twilight Helryx 16:55, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Article Suggestions

Twi, it's me. I am trying to do some editing during Christmas, but I don't have very many article ideas. Can you give me a list of any articles you think I might be able to edit that need editing? Thanks--Jakkinx Merry Christmas! 21:00, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Jakkinx. Sorry I didn't answer this sooner as I was quite busy the past few days. But I can offer you some suggestions. There are two GA nominees that would require some assistance. One is World War II and the other is Bionicle. Many of the changes needed for World War II are minor so it shouldn't be too much trouble while Bionicle needs a few additional info as well as some minor clean-up. Please let me know if you would like to work on different articles.--Twilight Helryx 16:51, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
You will work on World War II (Glad to have you back Twilight!--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 16:53, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! <3 I'm attempting to do both right now and it's hard! x.x" --Twilight Helryx 16:55, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Well if WWII passes then Ill be sure to give you credit for getting GA status. (It can be used as a good diff in any future RFA of yours) And Ill help out on the bionicle one if you want :)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 16:59, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
That would be great. Thanks! Merry Christmas!--Twilight Helryx 17:00, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Just give me a list of things to do and ill get to work. And Merry Christmas to you to.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 17:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas


Merry Christmas!

December21st2012Freak Happy Holidays! 00:31, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Why, thank you December! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too! <D --Twilight Helryx 16:59, 25 December 2009 (UTC)


Well I was going to use the five links that were posed on the GAN to make a new section but I dont know what to call it. They arent really product reviews are they?--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 16:03, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

They're actually production and reception info with a little impact (which I think would also merit its own section) thrown in. I've just made a section for Production; the section you want to create would be titled "Reception". ;) --Twilight Helryx 16:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
ok thanks. Ill make it sometime later today but right now I have to go. (Im very buisy today)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 16:27, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
That's okay, I'm quite busy myself. (I only managed to make that WP:DRAGON edit because I felt enough passion at the time to write it fast. ;P)--Twilight Helryx 16:34, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


Oh God please help me. I cant comment over there because I cant get all wraped up in this. I have to get some sleep!--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 03:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't think there's any way this guy will stop talking, and ANI would only fan the flames. My advice is to just pretend he's not there (i.e. don't answer any more of his comments). A dog will bark ever more loudly, but he'll have to stop sooner or later. To use a cliche, "what goes up must come down". Hope this helps.--Twilight Helryx 15:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

The 2010 WikiCup begins tomorrow!


Welcome to the biggest WikiCup Wikipedia has yet seen! Round one will take place over two months, and finish on February 26. There is only one pool, and the top 64 will progress. The competition will be tough, as more than half of the current competitors will not make it to round 2. Details about scoring have been finalized and are explained at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring. Please make sure you're familiar with the scoring rules, because any submissions made that violate these rules will be removed. Like always, the judges can be reached through the WikiCup talk pages, on their talk page, or over IRC with any issues concerning anything tied to the Cup. We will keep in contact with you via weekly newsletters; if you do not want to receive them, please remove yourself from the list here. Conversely, if a non-WikiCup participant wishes to receive the newsletters, they may add themselves to that list. Well, enough talk- get writing! Your submission's page is located here. Details on how to submit your content is located here, so be sure to check that out! Once content has been recognized, it can be added to your submissions page, from which our bot will update the main score table. Remember that only articles worked on and nominated during the competition are eligible for points. Have fun, and good luck! Garden, iMatthew, J Milburn, and The ed17 19:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


You know I was the guy who edited the WoS page except on a different computer, right? (talk) 02:03, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello there. Yes, I do. =) Also spotted you on my comments page on BZPower. =P --Twilight Helryx 21:18, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Bionicle Ga

Hi, you asked for an extension to til the end of January - "but I think I can by the end of January." Consequently I failed the nomination and removed the nomination from GAN and placed the failed GA banner on the talk page, so that can't be undone. Seven days is the norm for GA reviews, but I was happy to extwend to two weeks over the holiday period. Six weeks is far too long. Feel free to take to WP:GAR if you disagree. The artcile really needs a lot of wordk and I suggest tat you look at the otehr Bionicle artcioles as well before they get reviewed. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:00, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I later left a request for just one week. But that's okay; I'm pretty busy lately, so I'll use my spare time to clean it up and look at it more thoroughly. Once I I work out the bugs, I'll see you then. Cheers!--Twilight Helryx 18:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Re:World War II GA question

I didn't check closely, but I think 28+29 should be the same (although they look quite different, so I'm not surprised you missed that!). Some of the References are also cited in full in Notes, which is unnecessary duplication. There might be others too...(and there's still a lot of formatting inconsistency in Notes, if you want more to work on :)). Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 01:33, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello i am also working on the wwII mind you been some time but this might help in finding the doubles checker Buzzzsherman (talk) 03:20, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


So what will you do in the wikicup. I have a DYK, a GA and possibly an FA.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 17:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm going back to work on WWII and am planning on starting an article about a certain piano company I know that was once big, but is quite obscure now (what with Yamahas and Steinways) and possibly no longer producing any more pianos (I'll have to check, though). Unfortunately, I am source-blind again and will have to find some other time to do this. For now, all I can do is do things that don't involve sourcing. I'm probably not going to get past round 1 and would be happy if I could at least get one thing on my submissions page. x.x" --Twilight Helryx 18:41, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Too bad we cant claim credit for the WWII article.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 19:00, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Ugh, I didn't realize that all the edits we've made are formatting ones. >_> Anyway, do you happen to know about Behr Bros. piano company? I've done a Google search and found some potential sources. Unfortunately, I cannot view them now, and can only spot one sentence for the article; and one sentence articles have a high chance of speedy deletion. >_> Do you think you can help me? If you can find enough info about it, I can start the article and you can add the things I can't see. As soon as it's long enough, we can nominate it for DYK.--Twilight Helryx 19:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Sure. Ill look it up and see what I can find. What exactly do you think that I should lok for? Sentences or just the sources?--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 19:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Here's some sites that have info on it. [3], [4], I cant get anymore right now but I hope that this helps. (You can always start the article in a sub-page of your's)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 19:46, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Thanks, I said before, I've gotten conveniently source-blinded (i.e. I cannot access the majority of websites). Chances are, you may have to do most of the writing. ^^" But I'll go ahead and start it in a sandbox. ;) --Twilight Helryx 20:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

As you know, in many international organizations, the People's Republic of China tries to ban the Republic of China from being a member. In Wikicup 2010, this has not happened. Greetings. I carry the flag of Finland in Wikicup 2010 and you carry the flag of the Republic of China on Taiwan.

Are there any areas that we can cooperate to get more points? Working together will achieve more than working alone. If I work alone, I might get, at most, 2 FA, 3 GA, 6 DYK in one year. That is worth 380 points, not nearly enough to survive elimination, much less win. Even if you don't want formal cooperation, just say hello to me! Hi. Finland Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 19:54, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll co-operate with you! I have a GA, Possible an FA with another users and My only DKY is now at AFD. Thats 140 points. Even less than you!--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 20:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hello Suomi. Yeah, I just thought I'd embrace my heritage =P (though I'll admit that I was a bit miffed that the PROC won't let Taiwan into the Summer Olympics unless we call ourselves "Chinese Taipei" >_>). As for the WikiCup, you might want to check out the potential article Coldplay and I were discussing above. ;) --Twilight Helryx 20:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
@Coldplay: Would your "possible FA" be the Coldplay article. =3 And which article is the GA you've mentioned?--Twilight Helryx 20:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Im not sure the judges will alow a 3-way co-operation Though.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 20:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
@Twilight, Yes! it is the Coldplay article. The GA is Battle of Belgium. Everything on that article is great and will pass a GA instantly.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 20:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
lol! I figured. ;3 As for the 3-way cooperation: the rules said that anyone who's made "significant contributions" can claim credit (thought I probably won't be able to in my present accessibility state *grumble grumble*).--Twilight Helryx 20:20, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Are you there?

I have a question for you...--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Children's Literature Roll Call

Successful featured picture nomination

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Service award update

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Hello, Twilight Helryx! The requirements for the service awards have been updated, and you may no longer be eligible for the award you currently display. Don't worry! Since you have already earned your award, you are free to keep displaying it. However, you may also wish to update to the current system.

Sorry for any inconvenience. — the Man in Question (in question) 10:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Bionicle: Mask of Light

Hi Twilight. I conducted the GAN review for Bionicle: Mask of Light. I'm sorry to say I identified too many issues with the page as it stands right now, so I did not pass it. I've outlined my concerns at the GAN review page. As I said there, please don't be discouraged by this review, and instead try to see it as constructive criticism that will hopefully lead to a stronger article. Hope to see you follow through on these suggestions and bring this back to GAN in the future once the issues are resolved. Sorry again, and good luck! — Hunter Kahn 18:01, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Where's Makuta?

Hey Twi, where's that article about the Makuta, with all their powers and abilities listed, I can't find it anywhere!--Jakkinx Talk to me! 06:28, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

No no no! There was annother...oh right, you weren't on when that was an article. There was this article about the Makuta as a Brotherhood during the part where the Makuta where the main enemies, listing all their powers and abilities, there was like, forty two or something. But I'm pretty sure it got deleted. Anyway, I'll try and see if I can help on your current sandbox article, but you really should have a few pics, you know. I can't help there, sorry. Hopefully though, we can get it whipped into shape. --Jakkinx Talk to me! 03:36, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

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Do to recent events, which I myself am still trying to figure out, the user you contacted has been blocked for a short amount of time. So, the user will only be able to reply on his talk page.Abce2 (talk) 23:20, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Ouch! You’re right. *sigh* Apparently, it’s another issue with User:Malleus Fatuorum. Unfortunately, I wasn’t around when it happened and don’t have time to investigate right now so I can’t say who I think is at fault now. Sorry, Coldplay. x.x” --Twilight Helryx 23:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


can i edit something on a nother wiki (powered by metawiki) and have it count on my training? --Simplecorbin377 (talk) 03:21, 20 January 2010 (UTC) P.S. call me corbin.

Hmm, I guess that'll depend on what kind of wiki it is. But I'll accept anything that isn't Uncyclopedia (though I've got nothing against is; just isn't quite the same thing as Wikipedia) and Encyclopedia Dramatica (horrible site >_<"). Aside from those, I'm okay. =) just post the diffs on the lesson page. <3 --Twilight Helryx 17:18, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


I'm done with lesson 1!!!!!! --Simplecorbin377 (talk) 04:35, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Alright Corbin! I'll start your next lesson as soon as I'm able to. But you can always ask me questions or, if you get into some trouble, ask me for help. Cheers!--Twilight Helryx 04:52, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm Retired

I am indeed Retired. I know this is a bit of a letdown for you, loosing an adoptee like this, and I hate to do it to you, but for personal reasons, large ammounts of schoolwork, and a busy life, I have to leave. I hope such a thing doesn't happen to you, but who knows? No one is safe while the admins have free rein. I don't mean to sound bitter or angry, but that's just the way it is. I won't be very depressing here, since you have enough to do. Just do me the favor of stopping by my talk page to say goodbye. I hope I can come back someday, but I might not. We will just have to see. Anyway, thanks for being a great friend and a good adopter, and maybe we will meet again in the future. See ya 'round! :) --Jakkinx Talk to me! 02:10, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, it's okay; I understand. I'm pretty busy myself right now and am also unable to edit actively. You think you can edit during the summer? I most likely will have more spare time then as well. But no matter your decision, I wish you the best of luck in life. =) Cheers!--Twilight Helryx 04:51, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I might be able to do some summer editing, I will have to see how things are going then. I really can't say right now, it all depends. I would very much like to, however.--Jakkinx Talk to me! 05:27, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

WikiCup 2010 January newsletter


We are half way through round one of the WikiCup. We've had some shakeups regarding late entries, flag changes and early dropouts, but the competition is now established- there will be no more flag changes or new competitors. Congratulations to Hungary Sasata (submissions), our current leader, who, at the time of writing, has more listed points than Pennsylvania Hunter Kahn (submissions) and New Orleans TonyTheTiger (submissions) (second and third place respectively) combined. A special well done also goes to Isle of Man Fetchcomms (submissions)- his artcle Jewel Box (St. Louis, Missouri) was the first content to score points in the competition.

Around half of competitors are yet to score. Please remember to submit content soon after it is promoted, so that the judges are able to review entries. 64 of the 149 current competitors will advance to round 2- if you currently have no points, do not worry, as over half of the current top 64 have under 50 points. Everyone needs to get their entries in now to guarantee their places in round 2! If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, by email or on IRC. Good luck! J Milburn, Garden, iMatthew and The ed17 Delivered by JCbot (talk) at 00:23, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


Hello Twilight! I was wondering, what will you do for the WP:CUP? You don;t have any points and there's only 14 days left. I think that I'll pass through because I have 100 points. (2 GA's and 2 DYK's) So what are you planning to do, if anything?--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 03:55, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, I've got List of The Secret Saturdays episodes up for featured list, and I'm hoping to find some time for the List of Ben 10 episodes. Cheers!--Twilight Helryx 03:57, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
That will give you 40 points, enough to pass the first round. As for the second round. I've already got another DYK stored up here. That and I'll probably nominate German Type UB I submarine for WP:GTC and possibly Battle of the Netherlands for a GA. (sorry if I'm pouring it on. I hope that I did;nt look like a show off)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 04:02, 15 February 2010 (UTC)