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A brownie for you![edit]

Brownie transparent.png Thanks for the spelling checks! I'm glad people like you are around to proofread articles. Happy editing. ComputerJA (talk) 22:55, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

August 2013[edit]

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Reginald Corbet[edit]

Four of your edits to the Reginald Corbet page destroyed wikilinks, leaving annoying red text. Please check before you leave this sort of thing, which someone has to clear up. In fact, the normal Wikipedia practice is to use numerals to distinguish members of a line of nobility or baronets, although I'm not sure it actually matters much. Either way, the whole point of a wiki is that it has internal links, so you need to take care not to break them. Sjwells53 (talk) 23:00, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Basketball positions[edit]

There is no WP guideline that says the second postion in an infobox should NOT be capitalized. The convention for basketball, baseball (see Paul Molitor) and football (see Mike Alstott). I think it is fine to pursue a change, but the 1000s of articles that are formatted this way do form a consensus per WP:CONSENSUS. Changing this has wide impacts and I would ask that you try to convene a consensus discussion if you really feel strongly about this. Rikster2 (talk) 20:11, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Italics in page titles[edit]

Hello! Use {{Italic title}} to add italics to article titles, the usual wiki syntax does not work. I've already added the template to The Botanic Garden. Cheers, jonkerztalk 02:32, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Cases[edit]

You may or may not be more knowledgeable than I in reference to this subject. However, AP and DoD Style guides and even Wikipedia state Abbreviations should be capitalized. The full name of Marine Corps ground units of the infantry and artillery above the battalion are numbered and include the unit level, i.e. 9th Marine Regiment, 12th Marine Regiment. Abbreviated the word regiment is dropped and written as: 9th Marines or 12th Marines and when in sequence, 9th and 12th Marines instead of 9th and 12th Marine Regiments. Meyerj (talk) 16:18, 28 November 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.249.19.246 (talk)

December 2013[edit]

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Reverted edit to Network traffic control[edit]

Hi Primergrey (how did you know the colour of much of my [fake] TR7 Sprint, A TR7 16V?),

I have reverted your edit to Network traffic control because I feel that "burstiness" is very slightly more correct than "burst" in this context. My reason is that delay variation or introduced jitter can reduce the intervals between frames/packets without actually creating a burst (or clump as ATM used) of frames/packets/cells. This is burstiness without a burst. You can get this affect after policing/shaping by setting the bucket depth to allow for more than one frame, but less than two at a time. There's enough on the Leaky bucket page (just a bit) to work out the range of bucket depth, tau, or CDVt values for this effect.

It also retains commonality with the terminology in the first sentence of traffic shaping.

If you feel strongly that I am wrong in doing so, and that both usages should be changed, we can discuss it on Talk:Network traffic control or my talk page if you like. Graham.Fountain | Talk 09:34, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Capitalization[edit]

Hi. I thought I'd let you know that your success rate at "correcting" capitalization is only running at about 60%, from the edits that I have examined. That's high enough that I have not rolled backed all of your edits, but low enough to be a concern. If I had the time and inclination, I'd take a look at allof your edits and fix those that are problematic. Instead, I'd suggest that you be more careful, and push your average up. In one article, Photorealism, you even capitalized some instances of the same word and uncapitalized others. I don't know if that was deliberate or a slip-up, but if I see more examples of that type, I'm going to start losing my assuming of good faith. Please step it up. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:53, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

The edits in question are simply, Photorealism, photorealist. This is what the MOS guideline appears to be. Like, Communism, communist (unless a Communist Party member). As for the 60 percent, if you are using the Wikipedia MOS I have serious doubts about that number.
Looking now at your other revisions, those were proper edits according to the MOS. Vice-chair is only to be in upper case when part of a person's name, Vice-Chair Smith, and such. General manager is a job title and should never be capitalized, like lead-hand or foreman.Primergrey (talk) 05:37, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
This is not necessarily relevant to the specific edits discussed above, but titles are also capitalized when referring to a specific individual holding that title, rather than the position itself. E.g., "the King said" but "fit for a king". (MOS:JOBTITLES) Ibadibam (talk) 22:18, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Further to this, please do not uncapitalise proper names as you did with Lionel Everett. Names of organisations and honours are proper names and should be capitalised. Ranks should indeed be uncapitalised unless they are given immediately before an individual's name (although please note that when this article was written it was normal procedure to capitalise ranks on Wikipedia - this has subsequently changed). -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:01, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

[1] Want to add my voice to this, the uncapitalization of proper nouns capped in RSs, the substitution of "their" to replace masculine pronoun to achieve gender-neutral. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 03:35, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Your specialist fallacy creep is regrettable as it makes a sloppy looking encyclopedia Primergrey (talk) 11:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

I'll add another note, which is that names of flags are proper names, and as such should be capitalized (e.g. "Continental Colours". Ibadibam (talk) 22:18, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

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July 2014[edit]

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Request technical view[edit]

Primergrey, would you mind having a look at the discussion at Talk:Admiral of the Fleet (Royal Navy)? Much appreciated. Shem (talk) 17:49, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

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Coyote X[edit]

thanks for correcting my editing error to Shane Doan and not just reverting. appreciate it.Primergrey (talk) 07:09, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

No problem. ;-) Ryecatcher773 (talk) 18:49, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

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Technical page move requests[edit]

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Obergefell v. Hodges[edit]

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White = "it" ? Dutch Defence = Dutch defence ? Etc.[edit]

I think you're being a bit reckless (not "bold") re a lot of your capitalization and pronoun changes. IHTS (talk) 05:42, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes[edit]

really WCMemail 23:08, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Third Ypres ce[edit]

Dear Primer, thanks for your edits to Broodseinde et al. but did you know that it's a convention to use words for Allied army numbers and numbers for the Germans; "The French First Army" and the German 4th Army"? It's also a convention in these articles for am and pm to be punctuated with full stops, a.m. and p.m. It was one of the first articles I worked on and I wasn't as knowledgeable or consistent as I am now, so your copy edit has been generally welcome, I'm still blushing at the howlers you remedied.;O)) I wouldn't want you to waste effort on a misunderstanding. Thanks again. Keith-264 (talk) 06:28, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

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Incorrectly changed trademarked proper names in Sports Car Club of America article from capitalized to lowercase[edit]

In May you went through the Sports Car Club of America article and did a wholesale change of all of the SCCA's various program names from capitalized to lowercase. These program names are trademarked proper names and thus were correctly capitalized in the first place.

I'm assuming good intent, but you appear to have a consistent track record of mechanically converting capitalized words to lowercase without first understanding why they were capitalized in the first place, introducing a lot of errors in the process. Please reconsider your approach. Stephen Hui (talk) 06:56, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

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MoS[edit]

Thanks for getting involved. I'm not sure what is motivating this full-court press against MoS, but it's clearly well-organized. I find this disturbing given the trend in recent years, as the regular editorial pool has dwindled, for WP:FACTIONalism to be on the rise. I looks to me like the goal is for MoS to be hamstrung as a guideline (if not simply eliminated) so that every random wikiproject (and wikiproject-like clique) and would-be page "owner" can impose whatever idiosyncratic style they want and prevent anyone from normalizing it to encyclopedic prose. I hope more people who recognize what MoS is and does for Wikipedia will speak up before things get genuinely disruptive.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  02:42, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Same here. I hope to see you involved, Prime. Dicklyon (talk) 05:45, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
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Edits to Triumph TR7[edit]

First of all, and as a purely procedural point, I take that you haven't read Wikipedia:Basic copyediting#Etiquette. At the time, I could not go through it, but wasn't prepared to let it stand till I could, because there are clearly some changes that are objectionable, or at least worthy of discussion. I did put in the subject "discuss". But I admit I only assumed you would follow procedure rather tha simply re-revert.

I have a problem with a number of the points of tense, because, while there are still existing instances of TR7s, the model is no longer current, i.e. not being manufactured. Hence, I don't accept that "The Triumph TR7 is a sports car manufactured from September 1974 to October 1981" is an improvement. I would argue that it should be either "The Triumph TR7 is a sports car that was manufactured from September 1974 to October 1981" or "The Triumph TR7 was a sports car manufactured from September 1974 to October 1981", as an acceptable simplification. I have, however, corrected it to the former. I don't like some of the "has"'s instead of the "had"'s, etc., either, but...

"The original full size model wore MG logos" is clearly correct as it was: This was a clay "model car" used in 1971 in the design process and not a "car model", as in a version of the type. It no longer exists, other than in a few old photos, so I have corrected that too. It was this egregious error that made me revert the whole thing until it could be discussed.

I didn't have chance to look at the time, but I wasn't sure about "The Shape of Things to Come" as it is a direct quote. I just don't think you should change a quote without a specific note that it is presented incorrectly - even if you can argue that original material was incorrectly formatted you must be careful if you correct it as a part of editing. So, were the original source "The Shape of Things to Come", not "The shape of things to come", it might have warranted a "[sic]", but shouldn't have been corrected. However it was used in the advertising materials without capitals and so I accept that one - it just needed special, preferably individual, treatment as a quote.

The industrial action was continuous over 1977 to 1978 - the strike itself was from the 1st of November 1977 to sometime in February 1978 -, and the data range is not in lieu of 1977 and 1978. "1977-8" is correct as I understand it to be given in Ritter's 'Oxford Guide to Style' and so should, I think (but haven't checked), be in accordance with Hart's rules; however I see that MOS:DATERANGE gives that such ranges should be as "1977-78", and have changed it to that.

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Capitalization at 2017 Congressional baseball shooting[edit]

Hi, Primergrey. I've reverted most of the capitalization changes in your edit to 2017 Congressional baseball shooting. By my count you made 13 such changes, and in my view 11 of those 13 were incorrect. In eight of them you changed "Capitol Police" to "Capitol police". I don't see how this is in keeping with MOS:INSTITUTIONS: The Capitol Police are a government agency, and when one says "Capitol Police officer" one doesn't mean "police officer from the Capitol," which is what a lowercase p would imply (and which would make no sense in this case, since no one is from the Capitol). With the Alexandria Police it's somewhat different, as one can speak of a "police officer from Alexandria" as well as of an "officer of the Alexandria Police Department". However, in both of the cases where you changed the capitalization, the APD were very clearly being referred to as an institution, not as a general concept. Notably, in both cases the phrase you changed was "The Alexandria Police" (emphasis added), not just "Alexandria Police", which is an important distinction. Finally, you lowercased the R in Representatives before a long list of representatives. Here, I think it ought to have been quite clear that the word was being used as a shared title rather than a general descriptor.

In writing this message, I couldn't help but notice that a large portion of your talkpage consists of complaints about your approach to capitalizations. With respect, perhaps this is an area in which you need to reevaluate your approach? — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 03:05, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Minnesota, New York, Massachusetts governors[edit]

I'm fed up with all this B.S at Al Quie, Wendell Anderson, Deval Patrick, etc etc. Inconsistent application by the decapitalizing editors is just too frustrating :( GoodDay (talk) 01:41, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Are you sure MOS says no italics for Acts?[edit]

I checked the MOS for the use of italics in legal Acts Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Legal#In_Canada, and it shows links to the McGill Law Journal which does use italics... so where in the MOS does it say we should not use them? Mattximus (talk) 13:42, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

I think I found the issue. You seem to be applying the American convention on wikipedia to a Canadian article. Canadian articles follow a different MOS, found here: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Legal#In_Canada. This style uses italics for Acts. For example, see here: [5] They also follow different spellings, etc... I can re-add the italics in if you want. If you still insist American convention be applied to a Canadian page, you can also read the MOS exceptions (at the bottom of the link you sent me) where it says any title that is long may be italicized. That would also apply here. Mattximus (talk) 14:27, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

MoS talk: which v that[edit]

I am interested to know which editor at whom your accusation of jingoism was aimed. Please do inform me.-Sb2001 (talk) 23:48, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

@Sb2001: It was surely in response to you posting "Americans need to learn to accommodate the original language which they are trying to take over, ie English ... the language of England. This will never go through to the MoS. Push for an engvar if you wish, just do not try to enforce your ridiculous Americanisms on those of us residing in the UK." That raised hackles with a lot of people, and has a lot to do with why your reception here by me, EEng, and various other editors has been something akin to an immune reaction to a pathogen. I know we've hashed some of this out in e-mail and the situation is probably "chill" by now; just want to clarify that posts like that are not going to go over well. If you ice down the heat, the core of this sentiment is that Wikipedia should accommodate British editors to the extent practical, along with Americans (and Canadians and Australians, etc.); and that editors trying to push nationalistic preferences on other editors is disruptive. This is already the status quo consensus, though. WP:ENGVAR is as accommodating as it is practical to get, and Wikipedia style is a compromise; Americans have to adjust to things that aren't their typical or preferred style, too.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  08:32, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
I was planning on leaving this alone because I figured I would only escalate things if I answered. But, once again, SMc has summed up the situation damn near perfectly. Any and all manfestos, particularly those with a nationalistic skew, are red flags to many folks here. My intention was not to insult you, and i apologize if I did. Primergrey (talk) 12:42, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Spelling of aluminium[edit]

Re your edits at copper. Aluminum is spelt aluminium in chemistry related articles per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (chemistry) and IUPAC naming conventions regardless of the variety of English used in the article. SpinningSpark 21:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Good to know. Thanks. Primergrey (talk) 02:29, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

A friendly note from Felix[edit]

Copied from above:

   Dead on, my friend. I am indeed the OCD guy, live and in color. My failure to moderate it, however, reflects careful observation of WP's strengths and weaknesses, one of the latter being ambiguous communication that ignores the fact that not only is much of our discussion automatically kept accessible, but also it supports finding out what logic has been evoked without waiting for responses from other equally busy people. Enjoy.
--Jerzyt 20:34, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

   Oops! Dunno how that landed at top instead of bottom. (And (in case you hadn't already guessed that) i don't delete anything on others' talk pages -- tho i stopped to think thru whether it makes sense in this case.)
--Jerzyt 20:44, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll take care of it, thanks. Anyway, buddy, I'm pretty aware of non-neutral postings and I tend to err on the side of overly-brief. That being said, I think I'll just perma-copy the one posted for me. Thanks. Primergrey (talk) 23:28, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

2017 Military history WikiProject Coordinator election[edit]

Greetings from the Military history WikiProject! Elections for the Military history WikiProject Coordinators are currently underway. As a member of the WikiProject you are cordially invited to take part by casting your vote(s) for the candidates on the election page. This year's election will conclude at 23:59 UTC 29 September. Thank you for your time. For the current tranche of Coordinators, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:39, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Western oriole[edit]

Hello Primergrey, as you've now reverted the alternate names addition three times today, perhaps you wish to discuss on the article talk page or the WP:BIRDS project pages why you feel these changes are necessary (WP:BRD). 'Cheers, Loopy30 (talk) 23:23, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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ArbCom 2017 election voter message[edit]

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2017 Military Historian of the Year and Newcomer of the Year nominations and voting[edit]

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User group for Military Historians[edit]

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Discussion about MOS:JOBTITLES[edit]

There is a discussion about whether to add clarifying text (shown in boldface ) to MOS:JOBTITLES at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Clarification of "Titles of people" that you may be interested in. Sincerely, HopsonRoad (talk) 14:30, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive[edit]

G'day all, please be advised that throughout April 2018 the Military history Wikiproject is running its annual backlog elimination drive. This will focus on several key areas:

  • tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
  • adding or improving listed resources on Milhist's task force pages
  • updating the open tasks template on Milhist's task force pages
  • creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the scope of military history will be considered eligible. This year, the Military history project would like to extend a specific welcome to members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red, and we would like to encourage all participants to consider working on helping to improve our coverage of women in the military. This is not the sole focus of the edit-a-thon, though, and there are aspects that hopefully will appeal to pretty much everyone.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 April and runs until 23:59 UTC on 30 April 2018. Those interested in participating can sign up here.

For the Milhist co-ordinators, AustralianRupert and MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)