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Hello, ProtoDrake! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking Button sig.png or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! –xeno talk 15:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
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RE: A barnstar for you!

Thank you very much. I've been a Tomb Raider fan for many years, so it was nice helping out and improving Tomb Raider articles. I had to dig into different archives of various video game websites to find those references. Most of them weren't helpful, except IGN. Other websites were found from old 2003 threads from the Tomb Raider Forums. WWETrishMickiefan (talk) 13:05, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Talk sections

Please don't delete entire talk page sections. Although I directed you towards the article's talk page, I still answered some of your questions. That does not make the section irrelevant. It will automatically be removed from the talk page in due time if no one else comments. -- ferret (talk) 17:30, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of page (don't know how)

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I wish to put up the article List of Aeon Flux episodes for deletion because of frequent examples of both original research and complete lack of references to the information given. The main article can remain, but this article seems superfluous and not in-keeping with Wikipedia standards. But I can't make head or tail of the instructions of how to do it. So could someone please help me get the process started? --ProtoDrake (talk) 10:00, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree that the article is somewhat of a mess but having lists of episodes are widely accepted consensus, so I doubt that any deletion will be successful (see WP:ATD). Instead, you might want to take a look at some other shows' lists (like List of The Simpsons episodes which is a featured list) and see if you can fix the article. The guys at Wikipedia:WikiProject Animation and Wikipedia:WikiProject Television might be able to help with that. If you still feel that deletion will be a successful, please reinstate the helpme-tag and someone will be along to help you create the necessary entries. Regards SoWhy 15:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

My worries about some articles on younger readers

{{help me}} I sometimes feel, especially when looking at articles on swear words and such rather delicate topics as nudity and various sexual angles (no pun or embarrassing inferences intended), that some kind of confirmation of age is needed. I was looking at a page on nudity and many of the pictures there might well give offence or shock to someone who was too young to understand. What is the point of view on Wikipedia about this point? --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:53, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia has operated under the policy that it is not censored. This is Jimbo Wales' proposal for a personal image filter; however, any filter must be created so it cannot be used as parental control (by virtual decree of the community). External filter controls should work. Ryan Vesey 19:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of LEgo Cinematic Universe

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I wish to put the article Lego Cinematic Universe up for deletion, because the information is unreferenced and when I tried to reference it, I found the info was not even accurate or even true in some places. It reads like something from a fan site. How exactly do I ask for it to be considered for deletion? --ProtoDrake (talk) 22:38, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

I AfDd it. Rcsprinter (state) @ 23:05, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

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I am worried about the article titled List of Square Enix Hitman characters. It seems to me that the 'Square Enix' part is superfluous, if not completely unfounded given the fact that only one game has so far been released by Square Enix. It should just be called List of Hitman characters. What is the reason for this, and what can be done to change it? --ProtoDrake (talk) 23:23, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi ProtoDrake - the best place to discuss your concerns is the article talk page where other editors interested in the same topic can join the discussion. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 23:47, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

something minor

it hasn't directly been called a "trilogy" only as the "lightning saga".Lucia Black (talk) 20:46, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for DmC

Hello, ProtoDrake

Thanks for your work at DmC: Devil May Cry. I was feeling like a pariah with so many excited people ignoring WP:NOT. I didn't dare touch DmC because of my experience in Characters of Devil May Cry. People are adding everything in it; not just characters but monsters too.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 20:34, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

FF staff credits.

Hello.

Thank you for your message. I am aware that the info boxes are becoming really long, but this info really needs to be added. The reason is there is no website or wiki that lists the core staff of each and every FF game. The main reason I'm putting all this info up on Wikipedia is to aid others who may want to know the core staff of each FF. I know this info can be difficult to find online from experience. In fact, all the info I'm adding is stuff I've had to get off various other websites like IMDB, MobyGames and even by watching the credits of various FF games on YouTube. Not a lot of regular readers will be bothered to go to that extent to acquire this information. As a result, I'm doing the hard work for them and listing the key staff in the info box so the information is readily available for them when they visit the page. Please try to understand. Warm regards. --G-Zay (talk) 13:57, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Excellent idea! I will give it a shot and get back to you. :) --G-Zay (talk) 14:09, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I have already trialed your suggestion on some other Square Enix games like SaGa Frontier. I intend to do it to the FF series maybe starting tomorrow. I've just bee busy in real life the past two days. Warm regards. --G-Zay (talk) 22:43, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Metal Gear Rising - Sunny

Are you sure George and Wolf joined Sunny at Solis? Because when one of the Maverick staff asks Doktor, "How's our new recruit doing?" to which it then cuts to Sunny, Wolf and George, I was under the impression that Sunny joined Maverick's new cyborg firm. --FLStyle (talk) 20:04, 4 March 2013 (UTC) Hmm. Yeah, I think you're right. I'll change it, or delete it if I can't change it to fit the dialogue. --ProtoDrake (talk) 23:10, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Possible ban discussion on Niemti?

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Possible ban discussion on Niemti?. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 16:14, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Award for you

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For your efforts in fixing Final Fantasy related articles. Keep it up!.Lucia Black (talk) 18:20, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Motion to close RFC/U

You have previously commented on Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Niemti.

As an outside editor, I have moved that this RFC/U be closed. If you wish to comment on the Motion to close, please do so here. Fladrif (talk) 14:35, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

RE: Let's talk...(with me having the white flag)

Hello. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the current "History" section. Why, you ask? Because the game is not yet released. I think until this game actually comes out, we should provide clear and concise updates on the game's development. The "History" section does this well. Once the game is actually out, a lot (and I mean a lot) of the information in this section can be thrown away and moved to other parts of the article. At that point, we can begin to make the page look more like other FF Wikipages. However, seeing as this game was announced 7 years ago and still has no release date in sight, it's only considerate to the readers that we provide concise and clear updates on its development history for those wishing to research it. I hope you can see where I'm coming from.

Also, I apologise if I came off as harsh before, but I've begun to notice that Lucia seems to have some king of animosity against my edits and it's making close to breaking. I'm trying to just ignore him/her but that's difficult seeing as we're meant to working as a team. --G-Zay (talk) 21:28, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

As soon we get a solid release date on this game, I'll be 100% supportive of clearing up the "History" section. However, it's really when the game actually comes out and gets played that we'll really start seeing major work done on the page. As it stands, we're just giving readers info on a game that was announced 7 years ago and still has no release date. Heck, we haven't had any new gameplay or screenshots since January 2011, over 2 years ago. The game is vaporware, truth be told. --G-Zay (talk) 21:47, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

a different focus

Ignore G-zay. when it comes to articles, you cant just sy "i give up" especially when others agree with you. Even if the game is confirmed vaporware, the content will still have to be summarized and focus on its cancellation. Other than that, i will also take a break from the horrible article of versus XIII. For now, i came to ask if maybe you could help me on Final Fantasy Dimensions. Im not very good at adding plot info.Lucia Black (talk) 01:07, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

the plot just looks horrible. Im adding plot info, but it doesnt look like a GA worthy plot. I will add refs for the plot after my second playthrough of the game. If youve played it, maybe you can rewrote it. If not, possibly copy edit it to make it look better. Btw, its best if i reply herei usually reply to where the discussion originated.Lucia Black (talk) 07:31, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
again i prefer the discussion here, where the discussion originated. Not on my talkpage. And yes grammar is horrible. Im adding info as i play, so i dont forget it all.Lucia Black (talk) 07:45, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
AH, now I understand what you mean about talk pages. Sorry I misunderstood. In that case, to avoid edit conflicts, I had best wait until the whole plot is completed, then help you with it. Is that alright? --ProtoDrake (talk) 07:51, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Sounds fair. Im at the final boss anyways.Lucia Black (talk) 08:14, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. It looks much better. Some issues im still considering. Such as crystals to crystal fragments. Initially i thought they were fragments aswell but it never said they were (at least not in the english). But it definitely looks better. I'll look for the game quotes to make the plot section well supported Thanks. Im also working on Before Crisis, Crystal Defenders, Chaos Rings, Chaos Rings II, Chaos Rings Omega to get them at least B-class (or at least a close B). If you feel like it, maybe you can help me on those too if you like.Lucia Black (talk) 21:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Since G-Zay is now banned. We can bring up your earlier revision of FFvsXIII.Lucia Black (talk) 16:33, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

A couple of things...

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There are two things I really need to know. First: Where do I start a discussion about the moving of a page? The one I was hoping to move is Characters of Final Fantasy XIII, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns. I have already tried to move it, and the current, unwieldy title is the result, and I want to start a discussion about moving it and renaming it, for reasons I won't bore you with. The second is=: how do I create an archive for sections on my talk page, since it seems to be getting a little full? --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:16, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

  • The place to start a discussion about moving a page is the article talk page. See WP:Requested moves for the way to start a formal discussion there.
  • There is a helpful bot (automatic system) called User:MiszaBot III which you can use to set up automatic archiving of your talk page. There are links to instructions and a FAQ from the bottom of its user page. It looks complicated at first, but you will find that once you have it set up, you may tinker with the settings once or twice, but then you can just forget about it. JohnCD (talk) 20:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Re:Game Rankings

No, at the FAC Hanchen decided to make a fuss about having them both and I didn't feel like arguing the point. No consensus has emerged yet as to what metareviewers to include Wikipedia-wide, so there shouldn't be any large-scale removals. --PresN 00:20, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

G-Zay

Hi. If you don't mind, can you please take a look at this? We are sorting out problems with G-Zay's misuse of sources. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:58, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. At least I don't have to make a fuss anymore about any issue that I may have with other users. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:59, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
No, no, no, that's all right, no hard feelings. To be honest, I don't mistrust anyone, but if I did, I am sorry... I do not mean any offense or I am not easily offended at all, really. What I meant by "other users" was about users in general who have disagreements with me or those who have disagreements about me, but I always have to defend myself against them and tell them the truth, obviously. I have been mostly civil during my time here having been involved with Wikipedia (for over 6 years and over 50,000 edits), so if I was ever incivil in any way or mistrusted anyone (whether intentional or unintentional), I apologize... But when someone posts questionable aspects on my editing behavior, or posts any uncivil or venomous comment directed at me, I get a little shaky. Having dealt with sockpuppets of the banned users Yourname, Fragments of Jade and Zhoban, I get frustrated with some sockpuppets especially if they circumvent the rules, as well as dealing with long term abusive editors, or when I get involved into some sort of contentious confrontations, so I think it's best for the community if they avoid too much drama on Wikipedia but life in general. Have you ever heard of the phrase "Some things are just not worth the risk"?
I have had a few successful GANs (without any and all types of Wiki-drama), especially with regards to Sonic Adventure, at least 10 FAs (including the Kingdom Hearts games and FFXIII and FFXII) and managed to improve Wikipedia and other video game articles to the highest degree, However, if you have concerns about my edits to an article, bring it up on the talk page of the article concerned or on my discussion page. If you have concerns about my civility or etiquiette, please bring it up on my talk page or on a noticeboard as appropriate. Either way, you can also bring this up on my talk page. Hopefully, some of these discussions that I am involved in will be finished forever or at least for a long time. But if there are any more problems of if I go too far, please let me know. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:10, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Farewell

I am sending this message to the users who I have closely collaborated with. I will be taking a temporary Wikibreak for at least 5-7 days to let off some steam and get myself reenergized. Some of the stress has got to me, so I think it's best if I should take a couple of days off. I also have final exams coming up as well, so I have more important things to worry about. I, however, will be here to contribute to some articles that I have worked on. Until then, farewell. With my very best and warmest regards, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:35, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Characters of XIII

I wanted to tell you, I think you should nominate it for GA today, and keep working on it while you wait. I will also assist you with the review when it comes. Does that sound good? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 14:28, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Its super easy, you add a line of wiki code to the top of the talk page and it gets added to the list. Also, there is no guarantee that they will ask about the issues you brought up, and you'll never know if you don't try. I have nominated many article to be GA and many have not passed, but you also learn what issues the article has even if it fails, it's not a problem. So go ahead, I think it will be a success! Here's the link to how to nominate.Judgesurreal777 (talk)

Dissidia

I did the batch of corrections, so come see if you have any more :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:45, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

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I need to report user 24.180.83.223 for persistent disruptive editing, putting in nonsense info on articles such as Hero Factory and Cerberus. Where do I report him/her before he/she does any more damage? --ProtoDrake (talk) 08:56, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

The correct venue is AIV. However, don't worry about filing a report there in this case; I'll deal with him myself. Yunshui  09:51, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Final Fantasy Versus XIII

Hello ProtoDrake! Saw you were one of the most active editors of this article so I thought I'd leave you a message. I'm in the process of removing more of G-Zay's lies from this article and generally touching up the text and sources. I'm not finished yet, so please don't take it I'm trying to step on anyone's toes if some accurate information by you and others temporarily vanished from the lower sections I've edited. Still shifting some things around. It seems G-Zay has moved on to the unprotected and as-of-yet-oblivious FF Wikia in the meantime to continue his shenanigans. At least he's restarted his cycle of adding lies in articles and spreading them via forums.Xiomicronpi (talk) 15:09, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Basically done with the article now. It might look like it got shorter but it was mostly just shifting around statements so they are in the right sections (conceptual intent in development, more practical descriptions of the game's features in gameplay and plot). The old version had lots of information repeated across sections which makes up most of the removed text. Also deleted the fake statements by G-Zay that were mostly based on a (most likely nonexistent) Famitsu interview.Xiomicronpi (talk) 19:32, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Glad you like it! The thing you mentioned was one of those that had me confused. I couldn't find any English sources naming the Yakuza or Shibuya, only the Mafia and Shinjuku (mentioned here). Looks like that information is coming from a Ge-maga interview. I'll try to find a Japanese transcript and see if it specifically says Yakuza or Mafia because Yakuza would seem like a better fit given the characters' looks.Xiomicronpi (talk) 10:05, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Only found the second page of the interview in question. First one with the royal family comment is missing though. The second page at least clears up another statement lost in translation which claimed that Versus XIII is "an evolved form of the third-person shooter elements found in Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII" (as also reported here). In the Ge-maga interview, Nomura merely stated third-person shooter elements to be present. Then a footnote explained the genre to readers and mentioned Dirge of Cerberus and Gears of War as examples of such games. Concerning the royal family comment, later scans I found ([1] [2]) all seem to say Mafia rather than Yakuza. Guess it's safe to assume the original interview said Mafia as well and that the Yakuza thing just stuck with people after it was first brought up.Xiomicronpi (talk) 12:46, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Characters of the Final Fantasy XIII series book reference help

Sorry, I don't have any of the FF13/FF13-2 Ultimanias- I just had the scans posted on the FF13 talk page for the interviews in those ones, and was never able to track down anything for the 13-2 ones. I've got a character interview from teh FF13 Scenario Ultimania posted at Talk:Final Fantasy XIII/Ultimania translations, though note that the scans were pretty crappy so the transcribing is kind of flakey- if something doesn't translate well, it might be because some of the characters are wrong. If you can read Japanese or know someone who does, the scan itself might be more helpful. --PresN 02:41, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

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Nosgoth/Dead Sun

Hi, I tentatively reinstated the info in the Nosgoth article. It's entirely your prerogative to give a blanket dismissal of everything on NeoGAF, and I've removed that specific citation, but I'd point out there was already a second source which is considered reliable in there to back it up. More than willing to discuss the matter, if you still challenge that paragraph. --LoK Wiki (talk) 14:57, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

It's no problem. The news had just broken when I added it, and NeoGAF really was the original source (I know it's unorthodox, but if you're not familiar with the user "Mama Robotnik", his NeoGAF threads have unanimously ended up being copy-pasted as breaking stories on major gaming websites - he outclasses the vast majority of game journalists). However, you did me a big favour, making me think twice about the appropriateness of citing that forum directly here. I'm going to try and add some additional reliable sources for the info in light of this. Thanks and all the best! --LoK Wiki (talk) 01:15, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Characters of

Hey Drake, this is Judgesurreal777, I wanted to thank you for your tremendously high quality article you are building for the Final Fantasy XIII series. I wanted to drop a note here that you should consider taking a look at the other Characters of articles for Final Fantasy games, since we have several others that are of low quality and could really use your excellent work. for example, I have nominated Sephiroth for GA again, and when it passes, if we could get the Characters of the Final Fantasy VII series article to GA, we would hav a new good topic! Just a thought. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:03, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hey ProtoDrake! We've just deployed some fixes to the VisualEditor. These include:

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Hey!

Sorry it took a while, I was in Disney World! I looked at the article, definitely a C, and inches from a B. A two paragraph lead, trim the story section, it should be a B class and good to go for Good Article review. Great job! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:44, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hey ProtoDrake

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Re: Characters

I'm on the case, but I appreciate the ping (these days it takes me a while to do any sort of meaningful reviews between work and arb duties which is why I specifically request parties to badger me!) Should have a complete review up by tomorrow if not tonight. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 12:38, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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More on Monday, I suspect. Hope you have a good weekend :). I should also have some news about the IP launch pretty soon. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:26, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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GA Review

I'm here! Smile, breath, and do things on at a time, easy peasy! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:25, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hey ProtoDrake; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:

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"Characters of" articles are really hard to source and write, and as such very few people actually work on them. You've broken the mold by getting Characters of the Final Fantasy XIII series up to GA, and as such I hereby award you your second Square Enix barnstar. --PresN 07:09, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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For the incredible amount of work that you put into your first Good Article, and for not giving up on something new and challenging, I hereby award you the Tireless Contributor Barnstar! Please keep going and nominate more Good Articles when you get the chance! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 00:36, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter for 06 August 2013

It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages (bug 52012http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52012), scrolling (bug 52014http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52014) and deleting (bug 52013http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52013) on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are <ref>s defined inside a <references> block (bug 51741http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51741). Users of Opera 12 and higher have had their web browser removed from the browser black-list, mostly as a result of work by a volunteer developer (bug 36000http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36000). Opera has not been fully white-listed yet, so these users will get an additional warning and request to report problems.

Significant changes were made to the user interface to de-emphasize VisualEditor. This has cut the use of VisualEditor by approximately one-third. You can read about these at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/August 1, 2013, but they include:

  • Re-ordering links to the editors to put "Edit source" first and VisualEditor second
  • Renaming the link for VisualEditor to "Editbeta"
  • Disabling the animation for section editing.
  • Changing all labels for the classic wikitext editor to say "Edit source", regardless of namespace.

There have also been many smaller fixes, including these:

Most of the Wikimedia Foundation staff is traveling this week and next, so no updates are expected until at least August 15th. If you're going to be in Hong Kong for Wikimania 2013, say hello to James Forrester, Philippe Beaudette, and the other members of the VisualEditor team.

As always, if you have questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 23:23, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

August 2013

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Your GA nomination of Tomb Raider (2013 video game)

Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Tomb Raider (2013 video game) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Cabe6403(TalkSign) 14:53, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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I am awarding this barnstar as thanks for your efforts in improving Wikipedia. Keep up the good work, as usual! Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 15:49, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Also, I do not actually know if you are aware of this, but Fladrif (talk · contribs), a user who had issues with me, was blocked indefinitely by Ched per this discussion back in April for chronic disruption and doing the same thing to other users (this also includes an attack on an Arbitrator) and Ched acknowledged the fact that he said some negative things about me when we had that AN discussion about a certain user in March and apologized during that particular case with Fladrif after I apologized to him, as I did not really mean for some things like that to happen. So, with that, my faith in the community has been restored somewhat. When someone posts questionable aspects on my behavior or unfounded accusations about me, I get a little shaky. Other than that, good luck with everything that you do. I hope we can get to collaborate even more in that discussion. Regards, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 15:53, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments and I have reviewed a couple of GAs myself. That would help me boost my morale even more. And Kurtis has pointed out to me that it's best to part ways with users who don't get along with each other very well, despite my best attempts to reconcile with them. I am actually an experienced user for over 6 years and over 50,000 edits to my credit. I felt betrayed by Fladrif, whose comments towards me back in March were seriously shameful and uncivil. Throughout my time here, I have blown up at users before, apologized and tried not to do that again, but that is what separates me from my dealings with disruptive users (some of whom I have a long history with).
By the way, I am thinking about getting FFXIII-2 and working on Lightning Returns to FA status.
All the best. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 16:23, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, ProtoDrake. Fladrif's comments on my talk page did make me feel very angry as I feel that they were significantly condescending and venomous, he did not know me (no one should make conclusions about strangers) and these was a black stain (not from my making) on my excellent contribution record; and after taking a look at the Will Beback debacle at BASC and his edit history (which contained extreme disruption across multiple parts of Wikipedia), there was an even more serious problem with regards to WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL; he was to quote Ched, "unable to work with others." I was convinced that he was being disruptive, not only to me, but to others as well, as I pointed out in that ANI case. His conduct was profoundly detrimental to the encyclopedia, as Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia. But fortunately, that was already dealt with. We should not be accepting this kind of behavior.
Having dealt with sockpuppets of the banned users Fragments of Jade (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log) and Yourname (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log), I know what to do to take them to WP:SPI and I ran into FOJ over at the Silent Hill video game discussion where FOJ had issues with an established editor, Hula Hup (talk · contribs), before her Yomiel account was exposed back in April 2011. Since that time, I do not trust sock puppeteers or disruptive users. Since then, I have been trying to help catch sock puppets as well. And also, I still feel that you have never gotten on my bad side. I am an experienced and competent editor, and as Kurtis pointed out to me, being an established user involved in one of Wikipedia's civility disputes is a "soul sucking thing." Still, it was nice enough that Ched acknowledged that he said some negative things about me and apologized. Although I can forgive disruptive users only if they change their behavior to meet with the Wikipedia standards, I cannot really forgive them if they do not. Before I go, I will let you know that I have an extremely low tolerance regarding comments which I find to be harassing, haranguing, accusatory, inflammatory, incivil, heckling, insulting, condescending, disrespectful, abusive, venomous, yelling, annoying, embarassing, temperamental, rude or threatening, or those that are full of vulgarity. Other than that, with our efforts here, I think we should improve other video game and character articles. Can you give me some ideas? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:29, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tomb Raider (2013 video game)

The article Tomb Raider (2013 video game) you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:Tomb Raider (2013 video game) for comments about the article. Well done! It was a pleasure to review, a credit to the project Cabe6403(TalkSign) 08:54, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for 21 August 2013

Both VisualEditor and MediaWiki were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post-Wikimania update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on speed at opening and during use, as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is at Mediawiki.

References are displaying properly, even when nested (bug 50749http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50749) or in image captions (bug 52427)http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52427). Reference lists are now always fully populated with references (bug 50094). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph (bug 52159http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52159). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added (bug 50385).

Stray spaces are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki> problems (bug 51462http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51462). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable whitespace in templates (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted (bug 51150).

Wikilink handling was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) (bug 33094http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33094). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs 49931 and 51463).

A handful of fixes to the user interface were made. The toolbar doesn't float over personal tools after opening a dialog or the inspector (bug 52441http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52441). Toolbars were also re-written to be collapsible/expandable, with room for more icons. Buttons in dialogs can now be activated using the Tab ↹ and ⇧ Shift+Tab ↹ key commands (bug 50047). This saves time for editors, because you don't need to take your hands off the keyboard to click a button. We fixed a handful of bugs that affected only certain articles or certain browsers, including toolbar buttons in Firefox (bug 51986) and dialog panels that didn't always scroll correctly (bug 51739). Bugs with undo/redo getting confused have been fixed (bug 52113http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52113).

Images, in addition to getting references displaying correctly, also saw improvements with a set-empty |link= parameter no longer corrupted (51963). We corrected thumbnail images' display so that they look don't wrong in some contexts (bug 51995). Inserted images no longer explicitly set their alignment, but instead inherit the default position in compliance with the Manual of Style (bug 51851).

More edit notices, warnings, and metadata like information about Pending Changes on an article now appear as appropriate (bug 49699). When new articles are created, users are now shown the <newarticletext> message (bug 51459). VisualEditor now handles templates that set "meta" items (like a category) and nothing else better (bug 51322). If the database is locked when a user tries to save with VisualEditor, they now get a message telling them as such and an opportunity to try again, rather than a silent failure (bug 51636).

When you save the page, having the default preference set to "mark all my edits as minor by default" no longer overrides the setting in the save dialog (bug 51515). If you open VisualEditor from a section edit link, the section's title will be pre-filled in in the edit summary box when you go to save it (bug 50872). The size of the save dialog box in the Monobook skin has been fixed (bug 50058). Also, wikipage content handlers like sortable tables are re-run automatically after saving (bug 51565http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51565).

A very early version of the mathematics equation editor is now available for testing on mw:Mediawiki. If you would like to help improve the user interface for math editor, please test out the extension at mw:Mediawiki:Sandbox and leave your comments directly at the discussion page for the Math Node User Interface at Mediawiki. You should be able to use your regular username and password should to login to Mediawiki.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 17:40, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

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I'd like to present you this barnstar for improving the Tomb Raider article to GA status. It was on my to-do list for this month, but you beat me to the punch and did a great job. Keep up the good work.--WWETrishMickiefan (talk) 23:08, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 5

This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.

Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page (bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.

A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed (48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".

In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>) (bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:44, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Tomb Raider OST cover.jpg)

Ambox warning blue.svg Thanks for uploading File:Tomb Raider OST cover.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Werieth (talk) 15:53, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for uploading File:LR FFXIII cast.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:15, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Main characters of Final Fantasy XIII-2.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Main characters of Final Fantasy XIII-2.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:08, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013

VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u> (underline), <sub> (subscript), and <sup> (superscript), <s> (strikethrough) and <code> (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:47, 19 September 2013 (UTC)