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Hosni Mubarak[edit]


I copied the script from the biography article (which I am hoping is accurate). I think it adds something to the list of Heads of State to see the names as they would appear written locally, whilst not detracting from the fact that the entry in the English Wikipedia is aimed at English readers.

I would really like to be able to do so for the entire list (and for other Arabic-speaking nations) but my knowledge of arabic is limited to matching the roman letters to the Arabic - and that in itself is not sufficient - so any assistance would be very much appreciated. --JohnArmagh 04:47, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I wish I could. I'm trying to get some other people to help out in this.Quadell (talk) (quiz)[[]] 19:16, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)


I just noticed you have a picture of yourself on your user page. Would you consider adding it to Wikipedia:Facebook? →Raul654 21:31, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)

Arabic names[edit]

I just finished translating the names into Arabic script as per your request on the Arabic Wikipedia. I have some last names appearing as (...) since I don't know their Arabic names.


Ahmad Al-rasheedan

Thank you so much! Quadell (talk) (quiz)[[]] 19:16, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)

I just updated the page you requested (Arabic script). I will finish the rest tonight. Alrasheedan

Ok, myself & user Khaled had done some damage to your Arabic

page. Enjoy. Alrasheedan

Ahmed al-Ghamdi[edit]

I see that you've done a lot of work on the Ahmed al-Ghamdi article but there was only a reference to the en article at the sep11:Ahmed Alghamdi article. Perhaps you'd like to copy your extensive work to sep11:Ahmed al-Ghamdi as well as here, so the September 11 place has it as well? Jamesday 09:31, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Wikiquote box[edit]

Hi Quadell, I've tried to frame a careful reply about this box; please look here if you're interested. Yours truly, Opus33 17:12, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

<after a helpful exchange at that page, continues:>

Hi Quadell--I didn't take your remark to be rude, so no problem here. Thanks again for your helpful participation in this discussion. Opus33 15:36, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

September 11 Report[edit]

Hi Quadell. I believe in your last edit on the 9/11 attacks you are confusing two different reports. There is this one from 2002 and then there is this one from 2004. Alberuni 16:07, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Sorry for not being more specific: [1] Alberuni 17:48, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

New report request[edit]

Topbanana, I love the reports you've put together! I have a request. Could you list all articles that contain "ISBN:"? It's a common mistake when listing an ISBN to say "ISBN: 0-000000-0" instead of "ISBN 0-000000-0", and there's no way to search for this currently. Thanks, Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 19:32, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)

not-so-random act of kindness[edit]

Hi Quadell – for your kind encouragement in exposing myself to the wrath of the opponents of gender-neutral language reform, I hereby award you the Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar. (The third of its kind :-) Fpahl 12:21, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png

P.S.: What's a post-Libertarian? And what's the significance of the non-standard grammar in the first sentence of your user page? Symmetrization of first-person and third-person references? Is that related to Buddhism?


Thanks for the ISBN changes! I was wondering how to fix those, now I know. Off to fix my other pages! Cacophony

Dr. Michael M. Krop High School[edit]

Please help SAVE Dr. Michael M. Krop High School. Vote KEEP. Your help will be greatly appreciated.--AAAAA 20:17, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

  • Thank you for your KEEP vote!--AAAAA 21:44, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Can you review the changes you made to Deaconess? I am unsure what was intended. One set of quotes was replaced by question marks, and an apostrophe was changed to a question mark as well. I don't see what that has to do with correcting the ISBN. Thanks in advance. --Robbie Giles 05:06, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the info on ISBNs.--Robbie Giles 05:23, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)
    • Hi Quadell -- I've opened a section on this question mark phenomenon here. Please post any insight you might have into what happened there. Thanks. BTW, I just posted a comment on the VfD discussion at which we first met at Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion. I had you in mind when I inserted the "almost" qualifier several times :-) Fpahl 18:52, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Deleting liberal leaders category[edit]

I have seen you deleted a lot of categories of liberal leaders. There was a discussion on liberal leaders in the US, but you also deleted categorizing in other countries. E.g. Paul Hymans was clearly a Belgian liberal leader. SO is Verhofstadt? Shouldn't you have dicussed that somewhere?

Liberal leaders 2[edit]

The discussion was about liberal leaders in the US and - as you rightly state - there was a more or less general consensus. But the situation outside the US is different and there it is motsly more easy to put on a list who are liberal leaders. If you had made a notice to delete all the categories, I would have had the possibility to place the names in an annotated list. Now I checked the remaining categories, but I didn't have the possibilitie to save the names. At the moment I checked the remaining categories and have made an annotated list at my user page. -- Gangulf 21:01, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC) (BTW, normally i use the sign, but I forgot in in the last message, I am sorry)

Elevator button picture[edit]

I made a comment about where to link this article at the image talk page. Any comments?? Please put any comments on my user talk page. 00:11, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for doing so. I clarified one word because floor 14 is technically the thirteenth floor and I have to make sure the word isn't literal. 01:23, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Kentucky Medal of Honor Memorial[edit]

Nice photo. Could you either place it into the public domain or choose a license so that others may be able to freely use your photo? Ydorb

Good point. GFDL is the default. Since most people just check the box, there seems to be no consensus that unlabelled images are GFDL. I added the { {GFDL} } thing so that it gets categorized properly. Ydorb 22:35, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

Dayum, you get around =)[edit]

Edits on Zarqawi and Genesis... Cool man.

Yeago 03:40, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

New Testament[edit]

If I read the "protected pages" page correctly, you protected New Testament on 13 Sept. I would like it unprotected so that I might add. My credentials -

- Currently a Visiting Student at Oxford University - Finishing up a 3-Major bachelors degree at George Fox University in Religion, Sociology, and Biblical Studies - Recipient, 2003 Richter Grant for a study into connections between the Fourth Gospel and the Life of Apollonius of Tyana by Philostratus. - Presenter, 2003 Pacific Northwest Society of Biblical Literature meeting (Unv. of Idaho), New Testament and Hellenistic Religions section - Planning to present at the 2005 Pacific Sociological Association meetings, Religion and Education section.

In other words, I'm not interested in adding junk.

If you have questions, please e-mail

Thanks! jcdavis--Jcdavis 22:29, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

John Davis

Thanks for un-protecting it! --Jcdavis 19:49, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Australian aboriginal flag[edit]

Read the description text for Image:Australian aboriginal flag.png. All I did was convert the image to a PNG. You want User:GrahamN. -- Cyrius| 19:35, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The original was a BMP, and has since been deleted, and the history is not available. If you want to know where that image came from, you're going to have to ask GrahamN. All I did was fulfill a conversion request, and I made that clear so people like you would leave me alone. -- Cyrius| 20:24, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Sorry I'm grumpy, but when I said all I did was convert the image, that's what I meant. I don't know where it came from other than GrahamN uploaded it. I don't even know if that's a real flag. When I said "people like you", I meant "well-meaning but annoyingly persistent". You shouldn't bug people for information after they did a simple image conversion, because they likely don't have it. -- Cyrius| 02:08, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Disambig template[edit]

I think it should stay protected for the reasons I gave at Template talk:Stub#Unprotect, but the question of "how can changes be appropriately made to these templates" really comes down to common sense. There's no strict rule for when admins can or cannot edit a semi-permanently protected page, and I don't think such a rule ought to exist since the cases vary so widely. Angela. 23:36, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)

You're totally right about the semicolon thing. I wasn't reading the second part of the sentence right. Netholic is getting my Irish up, though. Gah! jengod 00:53, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
Frothing. Ha! I shamelessly stole it from Salon. I claim its here under fair use. What FREAKS me out is that it's now on two other user pages and meme! Wow! Thanks for the reminder about the Wikilove. jengod 04:48, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

PD photo[edit]

Good point. I've removed the tag and but an unverified template on it. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 01:54, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)


I took the photo, glad you like it, it is GFDL - I thought that that was the default, but will make changes. Thanks, Mark Richards 16:55, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)


I've marked a PD. Thanks for reminding me. -- user:zanimum

Image:Arabic alphabet.png[edit]

Regarding the copyright status of Image:Arabic alphabet.png: this is an adapted version of an image on the German-language Wikipedia, taken in the assumption that the original was GFDL-compliant. I'll try to track down the original. -- Karada 08:42, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The original de: image de:Bild:Arabic.png appears to have been deleted. I'm trying to find out why. -- Karada 09:11, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The de: deletion log reads: 10:14, 30. Jun 2004 [[Benutzer:Mathias Schindler|Mathias Schindler]] [[Bild:Arabic.png]] wurde gelöscht (requested. Raymond) , that is to say 10:14, 30. Jun 2004 [[User:Mathias Schindler|Mathias Schindler]] [[Bild:Arabic.png]] was deleted (requested. Raymond) Not sure what the reason for deletion was, though. -- Karada 09:25, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Note that de: also has a much more elaborate image at de:Bild:ArabischesAlphabet.png, which definitely has a GFDL label attached. -- Karada 09:30, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Re: Image:SixIonicOrders.jpg[edit]

I've added a Public Domain notice for this 18th-century engraving by J.-D. Le Roy. Thanks for the heads-up. Wetman 02:43, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Re:Opal Pendants[edit]

Thanks for uploading Image:Opal.pendants.250pix.050203.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.)
I immediately noticed a strange error in the file name I used, the gem is actually amber not opal. However that doesn't matter because this pic can be deleted. Here's why: when the new image syntax came in a few months ago the thumbnails we used to have to make ourselves become irrelevant because the Wiki software does that job. This is one of those hand-made thumbnails so the image can be chucked. Thanks for writing - Adrian Pingstone 19:26, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Re: Image:Ooozaru.jpg[edit]

Following up your message in my Talk page I tagged the image in question as "fair use", since it is a screen shot/movie still used to illustrate the description given in the article. Thanks very much for notifying me and I apologise in advance should my tag choice turn out to be incorrect; I find copyright policies and protocols rather perplexing.Sinistro 19:49, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Copyright Questions[edit]

1. For the images Image:SeaServiceResRib.jpg and Image:SeaServiceRib.jpg, did you create these? Or are they perhaps in the public domain?

Those two images were created through my duties as a military historian at the National Personnel Records Center. They should have the PD-USGov tag. I will change it when I have the chance.

2. There is an unsolved question that I thought you might know the answer to. If a soldier is on duty, and he takes a personal photograph with his own camera, does he own the copyright to the photo (since he took it, and he wasn't ordered to take the picture) or is the picture in the public domain (since it was produced by the U.S. government, in a sense.)

Personal photos taken my members of the U.S. Armed Forces are thier opwn property and they have the release authority on them. Photos taken which are put into offical records, such as service record photos and investigation type pictures (accidents, mishap determination, etc) are property of the U.S. government and are usually restricted for release. However, a photo from a service record is public inforamtion under the Freedom of Information Act. All of that that I just typed applies to the U.S. only. I have no idea about other countries.

Thanks very much, Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 01:20, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)

Your welcome! -Husnock


Hey, I've noticed over at WP:PUI you routinely use (c) as shorthand for the word "copyright"... Anyhow, I just wanted to let you know that ALT+0169 will render the copyright symbol, ©. Just another worthless piece of information floating around in my head, might as well share it with someone. blankfaze | (беседа!) 13:03, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Liz Leyden (Openbill Stork)waived the copyright for the pictures on her website. Any other image I've uploaded with LL at the end will be from the same site. jimfbleak 17:06, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)


I don't know anything about that image; I moved it onto the site to replace one that was being linked offsite. IIRC this was uploaded back when all images had to be uploaded at, and the policy finally changed to allow uploads here, so I was moving them over. Then I stopped because some of them weren't tagged as far as copyright. It looks to me like |the Debian logo, so I'd wager it's under copyright and we'd have to determine if it's fair use to post it. But since it's not being used, the point is moot, huh? Koyaanis Qatsi 01:07, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Re: Image copyright questions[edit]

First of, IANAL...

Suppose person A were to take an image that was copyright person B, and upload the image to Wikipedia. Suppose further that A claimed (falsely) that it was copyright person A. If person B complains, is Wikipedia liable?

The only way that I see that Wikipedia would be liable is:

  • if Wikipedia doesn't complain with a cease-and-desist order given by the court
  • if Wikipedia continues to display the image knowing that person B was indeed the owner (immediately liable)

Concerning the above, if a third party C were to release a CD version of wikipedia, would party C be liable?

Same answer as above.

Suppose photograph D were copyrighted, but including this photograph in an encyclopedia would clearly be a fair use of the image in the United States. Does the image submitter need to know if this would be considered a fair use of the image in the U.K.?

No, the submitter doesn't need to know that information.

Concerning the above, how about China or Sudan? What image fair usage laws must an image uploader be wary of?

He must be wary of the laws were the images will be stored (ie: were the server resides).

If an image was created by the United States government or a branch thereof, can an uploader safely assume the image is safe to upload? (e.g. passport photographs, prison "booking" photos, FBI crime scene photos)

See 17 USC § 105.

If the creator of an image is unknown, but the image was distributed by the United States government or a branch thereof, can an uploader safely assume the image is safe to upload? (e.g. Images on FBI "wanted" posters, etc.)

Never seen the government displaying images without the proper author acknowledgment.

By the way, some of these questions have already been answered. User:Alex756 is a lawyer if you didn't know.

Joseph | Talk 03:31, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

Image:Meals title.png[edit]

Hey, Image:Meals title.png is a modified version of Image:Cuisine title.jpg, which had no usage restrictions. I'd like to leave it with as "free" a license as possible (I think Public Domain is the most free?), but i'm not completely positive what "no usage restrictions" means. siroχo 21:08, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)


Hi, I'm afraid I don't know anything about the copyright status of Image:Ngari.jpg. The original BMP version was uploaded by User:Umrao and I simply converted it for efficiency reasons. -- Wapcaplet 21:32, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Image:Newspaper rock.jpg[edit]

Thanks for the alert on that photo of [[Image:Newspaper rock.jpg]]. It was taken from my own site, where all photos are covered under the GDFL, but I added the reference in the wiki page. user:Davejenk1ns

Nicola Roxon images[edit]

We're in a bit of a predicament with this. All the images of Australians parliamentarians are by AUSPIC, who have twice told Adam Carr that non-commercial usage, preferably with credit, is fine. He hasn't, however, been able to get this in writing. Ambi 15:50, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Yes, i took the picture of Nima Arkani-Hamed[edit]

Do you like it? ;-) --Lumidek 20:49, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

List of songs whose title does not appear in the lyrics[edit]

In the article "List of songs whose title does not appear in the lyrics"

you removed "Subterranian Homesick Blues" because it was "self referential".... I do not see the words in the lyrics. Perhaps I am missing something, but I would like to see it added back in because I think it was a mistake to remove it.... then again I might be wrong. Anyhow, I would appreciate if you looked it over again. Thanks! [posted by anonymous user]

Hi, thanks for asking. The article says:
Excluded from the list are. . . titles that are descriptive of the song and therefore not expected to appear in the lyric. Examples of this include: "59th Street Bridge Song", "Crossroads Blues", "Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag". . .
So I thought the name "Subterranian Homesick Blues" described the song. That's why I called it "self-referencial". Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 23:13, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)

Iceland map image[edit]

Regarding the Map of Iceland I uploaded to the page þingvellir: I don't know under what license these images. I simply copied the image from the icelandic wikipedia here. It had no license information on the icelandic page, so I put none on the english wikipedia.

However, since you asked me, I did a little investigating. There is a copyright notice in the image to "Kardjila". I went back the the Icelandic wikipedia, and checked out the webpage too, and it looks like the person who uploaded the image may also be the person who created it, or at least affiliated with the institute that created it. and there are dozens of other maps of iceland to be found on the icelandic pedia. That peson is GISLANDIA. Actually, looking at the website, this looks like it might be an account for the Iceland Gazeteer.

So I left an inquiry to GISLANDIA on the user's talk page. I will let you know if i hear anything. There is also an email address, so I might also shoot off an email. I don't speak any icelandic though, so if this person doesn't speak english, well, I don't know what to do then.

-Lethe | Talk

Copyright tags[edit]

I assembled the two maps out of other PD maps on Wikipedia. I am releasing them in the public domain. :) WhisperToMe 05:01, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Solon Low[edit]

There already is a fair use tag on the picture. AndyL 01:45, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Hi Quadell - your pic Image:Juniper berries.jpg is a species of Phytolacca (Pokeweed, not a juniper, so I've removed it from Juniper. The other one you added is correct. - MPF 17:54, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Coconut crab[edit]

Hi. I added english units to the article. Hope I got em all (I think only the first paragraph of section 1 had lengths and weights). In return, could you sign your comment on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates? Thanks for the support. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:33, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)


Hi. I believe the image was taken from Hope you help out on whether I would put fairuse or GFDL on the page.Ktsquare (talk) 20:45, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Image:Cathedral of Magdeburg Inside.jpg[edit]

Hi. I think regarding to Image:Cathedral of Magdeburg Inside.jpg on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates that the image is actually positioned correctly. To check I created Image:MagdeburgAngles.jpg. Please have another look and feel free to comment to my comments on the FA page. Thanks -- Chris 73 Talk 02:17, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)

CD Rom orangutan pic (and perhaps others)[edit]

Hi! I've been going around Wikipedia, trying to add image copyright tags to images that don't have them. I stumbled upon Image:Orangutan.jpg, and I read that the page says "Orangutan image, from a CD-ROM. All images are free for licensing according to the disc." I'm not sure what that means. Does that mean anyone is free to use this image for any purpose? Thanks, Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 01:49, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

Yes. — Jor (Talk) 13:56, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

(moved from my talk.)


Hi! I'm in a bit of a dilemma as to what licence this image (Image:Oradea.jpg) should have. I uploaded it after I saw it on the Romanian and Netherlandic Wikipedias. It originated from the Netherlandic Wikipedia and taken by Frank van Nees, a Wikipedia user who uploaded it himself (see ). What type of licence is this? Fair use? Thanks, Rronline 12:06, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Problems with an administrator[edit]

Hi Quadell I'm having problems dealing with a biased administrator User:Jayjg. See history and Talk page at Al-Mezan Center for Human Rights for an example. He follows me around, reverts many edits dealing with the Mideast, redirects pages and nominates pages for Votes for deletion in an effort to promote his Zionist POV on Wikipedia pages. What can be done about admins who abuse Wikipedia NPOV policy and harass other Wikipedians? Alberuni 17:48, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Jayjg continues to stalk me all over Wikipedia reverting and deleting most of my work because he can't stand to see NPOV edits to pages related to Israel. He is extremely biased and unpleasant to deal with. He is trying to ban me because he disagrees with my political opinions although he couches his efforts in legalistic terms. I think this is an example of why Wikipedia has sucha pronounced pro-Israeli slant. People like Jayjg try to make life difficult and run anyone who disagrees with them out of Wikipedia. I'd appreciate your support. Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Alberuni. Thanks. Alberuni 15:36, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your sage advice Quadell. I've been pleading with Alberuni to work co-operatively, and to talk things over with me on my Talk: page, and even been very positive about some of his edits, but as yet to no avail. Jayjg 20:47, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Image chart[edit]

Hi, thanks for the support! Anyway I am planning to update the chart every one or two weeks, two keep track of the various numbers. Alfio 21:36, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reply to requests on photo copyrights[edit]

All images which I have taken myself are now tagged "I took this myself." This means anyone is free to use them in any way they want. If you think one of these photos requires a more specific copyright notice, feel free to add one. All other images uploaded by me come from various websites which I do not now recall, so please don't ask. If you feel they are in violation of copyright, you are free to delete them. I will no longer be uploading photos except those I have taken myself. This is all I have to say on this subject. Adam 00:04, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for your support. I will not let you down. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (hopefully!)]] 15:14, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)

Admin nomination[edit]

Hi! Thanks for kind words in your vote in support of my nomination for admin :) - Ta bu shi da yu 02:25, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)