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Talk page thread regarding you recent "Protestant" Christian edits[edit]

Hello, I had some concerns about recent edits you've made, as you've somewhat indiscriminately (it appears) added the qualifier "Protestant" multiple times in some articles, which in some cases is altering quoted material or categories. Please feel free to discuss your rationale at the talk pg. thread I started at WikiProject Christianity, here Thanks. Roberticus (talk) 18:27, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles do not specify what kind of Christian is the person in question, and creates confusion among people. You should know that the term "Christian" refers not only to Protestants as the articles want us to believe but also Catholic Christians for example.Rafaelosornio (talk) 04:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Do not worry about the broken categories, they will soon be arranged. I've done extensive research to corroborate what person is Catholic Christian or Protestant Christian , so do not worry, I also will add the Catholic word before the word Christian if required.Rafaelosornio (talk) 04:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

January 2014[edit]

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive, until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively could result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Please stop adding the word "Protestant" in - multiple editors have pointed out that it's not appropriate. StAnselm (talk) 04:26, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Jeremy Affeldt. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. StAnselm (talk) 04:40, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

I added Christhian word after Catholic too, as Catholics are also Christians.Rafaelosornio (talk) 04:41, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

To clarify with the previous warning, you added the word "Protestant" so that the sentence reads "He writes a weekly blog about his Protestant Christian faith". Well, he is writing about his Christian faith, not necessarily his Protestantism in particular. In any case, you should discuss your proposed changes and obtain consensus before adding material back in that has previously been reverted. StAnselm (talk) 04:49, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

The best option is changing the word "Christian" (when it referes a Christian Protestant) by the word "Protestant" because saying "Protestant Christian" is redundant. In this case, the word "Catholic" is correct, as well as the word "Protestant". Remember: Catholics and Protestants are Christians.Rafaelosornio (talk) 05:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Benny Hinn[edit]

Please tell me how you know that no Catholic has criticised Hinn, and why it is important to leave them out in this way. Do realise that as Christians includes Catholics if a Christian of any stripe criticises him they are included. If any branch of Christianity has not criticized him then the others have, so the general term is more valid. Britmax (talk) 10:03, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

I do not understand your comment, articles must be neutral, it seems that as a Protestant Christian that you are, you want to impose your faith.Rafaelosornio (talk) 13:50, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm an atheist, mate. If the article just claims that Protestants have criticised him it leaves out the possibility that a Catholic has. If it just says Christians then the article is right if a Christian of any shade has criticised him. Britmax (talk) 08:48, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Information icon Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Benny Hinn. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Harold Camping. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. StAnselm (talk) 22:40, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

December 2014[edit]

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Veronica Lueken, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!

Edit war warning[edit]

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Your recent editing history at Rapture shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:40, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

We dont care what your or my reading and interpretation of the Bible says. We present what the reliable sources say. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:13, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Oh, What your Presbyterian Dictionary page 262 says is more reliable than the Bible. Ok, if you say it. I can quote a Catholic, Anglican, Orthodox, Pentecostal or Adventist Dictionary and it will say another different concept about Rapture.Rafaelosornio (talk) 03:33, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
yes, what my dictionary says on page 262 is more reliable that what you say the bible says/means. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:51, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
You changed the meaning, but now the article definition is right. Indeed, I have read The Westminster Dictionary on page 261 and it says:
"(Lat. raptus "carried off") An expression of intense religious exprience. Also in Premillennialism the view that when Christ returns to the Earth, BELIEVERS (not the living) will be raised from the earth...."
IT SAYS "BELIEVERS" NOT "THE LIVING". Now the Dictionary and the article have meaning.

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Brother of Jesus[edit]

Hi.. I notice that you removed some words in your edit. I can understand your reason and agree with you. However, I added those words to assert that John J. Rousseau and Rami Arav constructed the diagram based on their claim (the deleted words), since I read that in the source cited: [3]. And then I added the next sentence to neutralize their claim. I look forward to hearing your comments. Thanks, Ign christian (talk) 06:03, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I removed it because if you read Josephus and Eusebius they never said that the "brothers of Jesus" were children of Mary and Joseph. When I see the diagram I can see that they do it according to their own interpretation of the Bible and cited historians to support their diagram even if it is not true because the diagram was made according to the bible more than according to Eusebius(Hegesippus) and Josephus. The following is true:
Hegesippus an Josephus said that James the brother of Jesus was head of Jerusalem´s church; that Clopas was brother of Joseph and an uncle of the Lord; Eusebius said that Mary of Clopas was the wife of Clopas, who have a son called Symeon and Eusebius said too that James the brother of the Lord "was called the brother of the Lord because he was known as a son of Joseph" but he doesn't mention that James was a son of Mary, the mother of Jesus, James could have been a son of Joseph by a previous marriage. About Judas it is written: "5. The same historian says that there were also others, descended from one of the so-called brothers of the Saviour, whose name was Judas, who, after they had borne testimony before Domitian, as has been already recorded, in behalf of faith in Christ, lived until the same reign. 6. He writes as follows: "They came, therefore, and took the lead of every church as witnesses and as RELATIVES of the Lord. And profound peace being established in every church, they remained until the reign of the Emperor Trajan, and until the above-mentioned Symeon, son of Clopas, an uncle of the Lord, was informed against by the heretics, and was himself in like manner accused for the same cause before the governor Atticus. And after being tortured for many days he suffered martyrdom, and all, including even the proconsul, marveled that, at the age of one hundred and twenty years, he could endure so much. And orders were given that he should be crucified." Judas could have been a son of Joseph too by a previous marriage too or a relative of the Lord. If you see the diagram Josephus is cited once only to say that James was head of Jerusalem´s church. If we can see anyone said that James along to the others brothers of Jesus were children of Mary and Joseph, only of Joseph is said that James was a child of Joseph, but Eusebius doesn't mention of Mary. There are various theories, they theorize that the Jesus' brothers were sons of Mary and Joseph, as others theorize not. Who knows who have the true.
Hi again.. I agree with you. :) Just wondering if readers should be aware that the diagram constructed based on their own interpretation regarding Josephus, Eusebius, and Hegesippus writings. I'm afraid if those thing do not explained, some day an editor will add that the diagram "based on Josephus, Eusebius, and Hegesippus", which is incorrect according to your explanation. What do you think? Your thought is appreciated. Thanks, Ign christian (talk) 03:30, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
I think that the diagram is based on their own interpretation of the bible, in a literal interpretation of the word of "adelphos" as being full brothers of the Lord. They cited Josephus, Eusebius, and Hegesippus to support their diagram but we have to know that they (Rosseau and Arav) put words in Josephus, Eusebius, and Hegesippus that they never said. In conclusion they SUPPOSE that Josephus, Eusebius, and Hegesippus said that "the brothers of Jesus" were child of Jesus and Mary, but they never said that. What we can do? I don't know.

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February 2017[edit]

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Stop changing the quote at Saint Peter[edit]

The source clearly says reliable literary evidence. You are likely to be blocked if you do it again. Also read WP:Primary. Doug Weller talk 21:05, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

About an earlier edit of yours[edit]

This was completely unacceptable.

Should we change the "beliefs" section for Hinduism, Scientology, or other religions' articles to say "facts"...? No? Then "do unto others..." and follow WP:NPOV.

Ian.thomson (talk) 15:04, 14 August 2017 (UTC)