Crazy obsessed massacre edits by 220.127.116.11 = Polyenetian , a liar , troll, exaggerator
He is the same crazy idiot who enjoys talking about the massacres of millions of Africans, Europeans and millions of Germans, Armenians being killed. He enjoys using google book sources and manipulate the sources and mis-interpret all to this willing directions like he did with Cantonese in the Hoklo wikipedia page. His edits of other ethnicity are always purely negativity and most of the time exaggerate to highest proportions of death he can get and cherry pick a written google book source to fulfill his agenda.
His recent edits
"The Thirty Years' War brought tremendous destruction to the Germany, more than 1/4 of the population and 1/2 of the male population in the German states were killed by the catastrophic war"
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Regarding the Tran Bloodline
To cut this discussion short for the sake of brevity, I have removed the assertion that the Tran were of Baiyue descent, only because a single source asserts that fact. However, it would be highly advantageous and beneficial for you to research the bloodline of the Tran royalty and realize that there were many intermarriages between members of the Tran clan and members of the Ly royal family, including some members of their royal courts. Thus, I very much in earnest recommend that you see to the fact that this evidence does not only include citations from Vietnamese sources this time, but also from highly valued and respected western historian sources, which are unbiased, such as the book "A history of Vietnam: from Hong Bang to Tu Duc. Greenwood Press" by Chapuis, Oscar. Doing basic researching on the Tran bloodline on the other hand, especially the maiden bloodline of the Tran royalty should itself be enough to make it clear that the royalties were of mixed-blood descent, with the first mixed-blood generation coming after Tran Ly. Judging from your track record though, I very much await your refutation though, if such is possible. TTTAssasinator (talk) 22:08, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- The Tran dynasty marrying locals is not disputed. They married into several families besides the Ly. However the origins of the Ly dynasty family are also disputed as well.Rajmaan (talk) 06:25, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
Correct, however, the origins of the Ly dynasty is not important in this case for two main reasons: 1) Even if we were to accept that the main founder of the Ly dynasty was of Chinese descent, we are talking about intermarriage between the Tran and members of the Ly royal family hundreds of years down the line, who were also very mixed-blood due to intermarriage with the Vietnamese members of the royal court (same case as the Tran that we are discussing). 2) You are correct that they married into families other than the Ly as well, as in the case of Tran Ly and Tran Thua, so in that case, the origins of the Ly dynasty becomes entire irrelevant. In fact, the first emperor of the Tran dynasty was perhaps of even more mixed-blood descent that the other members of the family, since his father, Tran Thua married a local, and Tran Thua's mother was also a local/member of the royal court. Thus, the only way to prove that the portion of the clan that actually created the dynasty were not of mixed-blood, you would have to prove that everyone on the maiden side of the family, such as the locals and members of the royal court were somehow of complete Chinese descent themselves (lets not even get into the discussion of whether they were of mixed-blood or fully Vietnamese themselves, either way would only serve to prove the point that the founders of the dynasty were of mixed-blood descent), and by founders, I am specifically referring to the members of the Tran clan that actually created the dynasty, not the early ancestors who were mere fishermen. TTTAssasinator (talk) 15:30, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Abdulaziz al-Tarefe
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