User talk:Ral315/Archive 21

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I don't understand[edit]

Then why was the RFA under the name ForestH2? Shouldn't it have been the other user's name who it was under? And under some previous circumstances, you have compared ForestH2 sockpuppets by ways of television articles. I didn't notice Trebor Rowentee (was that his name) had any edits with SpongeBob ones. And ForestH2 sockpuppets contribute to political articles? Where? By the way, nice job with the Signpost. Carpet9 23:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I think you are referring to the RfCU request (not the RfA). I filed the request originally as Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Trebor Rowntree and it was answered by the CheckUser under that name. Later, a CheckUser Clerk changed the casename to ForestH2 for archiving purposes so it would show up on the same page with the prior checks on ForestH2. Hope this helps to explain what happened. Newyorkbrad 23:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


Hey there. I got your message about the Signpost and I'd love to help. I won't always be there to help, which is why I'd suggest that I just do the "filling in the cracks" stuff. So if I find stories/stuff that seems interesting/pertinent to the project, I'll work on that. Jaredtalk  23:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Your abuse of power[edit]

I'd also like to note the following things. Just because User:Squirepants101 told [1], [2], and [3] you that someone needed to check the users out because they were supicious does not mean you block them right away without a checkuser result and talking to them. The following blocks are an abuse of power as from what I know:

  • 00:39, 5 December 2006 Ral315 (Talk | contribs) blocked "SpongeBobBoy (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (Sockpuppet of ForestH2.)
  • 00:39, 5 December 2006 Ral315 (Talk | contribs) blocked "Reeler (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (Sockpuppet of ForestH2.)
  • 00:38, 5 December 2006 Ral315 (Talk | contribs) blocked "Shipready (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (Sockpuppet of ForestH2.)
  • 00:38, 5 December 2006 Ral315 (Talk | contribs) blocked "MacintoshApple (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (Sockpuppet of ForestH2.)
  • 00:38, 5 December 2006 Ral315 (Talk | contribs) blocked "Iswatch19 (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (Sockpuppet of ForestH2. I thought so.)

So they are sockpuppets of ForestH2? You know they are? They were proven by the Checkusers? No. We don't know. You blocked them on hint and you could have blocked really innocent users. Unless, I don't know something, I demand you unblock them right now, get a checkuser to checkuser them or this could go along the lines of abuse of power. I know this happend a while ago, but I am sure that it still counts as abuse of power now that the ForestH2 thingy is back and up. By the way, lastly, I've been doing a rather large reasearch on ForestH2 sockpuppets and would you want to look at User talk:Sir James Paul, at the bottom. WuC looks like a sock of Forest, because apparently he is hi, because he is talking about himself on [4]. Carpet9 00:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


I just wanted to thank you for the Wikipedia Signpost and especially I am very grateful for delivering it into my local wikipedia. I am sorry I can not answer your ask for help. --SMP - talk (en) - talk (ca) 17:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


Excuse me, Ral. Could you please explain why you did this? I undid your version because I couldn't get the point. PeaceNT 08:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Working on Signpost RSS[edit]

Is anyone actively working on setting up an RSS feed for the Wikipedia Signpost? I've started working on the problem, but I'll only push for a finished product if there's nobody else further along. Thanks, --dantheox 08:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I've got a basic feed up at if you'd be willing to check it out. I'd prefer not to publicize this until after the next signpost comes out, so that I can have some degree of confidence that this will work in the wild. Thanks, --dantheox 19:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Volunteer for Signpost[edit]

If you do require any more volunteers for the Wikipedia Signpost in any way, I am gladly interested. For further contact, please use my talk page. Many thanks, Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 00:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Could you please give me more information on what the 'Features and admins' job is and how to do it as I might have a go at doing that as a Sunday evening / Monday morning thing if possible. Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 08:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I would love to take the position of this job if it is still open. I will have to get more information off you on where to send it, etc. Many thanks, Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 06:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I'll be on the ball with this one - sounds great and I will have it in by Monday evening. Any further information, please drop us a line. Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 07:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I will keep that in mind and I will check it before I send it off for collation in the Signpost. Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 08:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
One further question, as the deadline is around 3am my local time, is it alright if I submit it at around 11:00 UTC? If there is any updates prior to the deadline, you might have to quickly add them in for me. Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 12:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Signpost/features and admins[edit]

Would you consider announcing articles that have been promoted to GA? I don't know how much work this would be, but it would be very useful. (watchlisted you) --Ideogram 01:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Not at this point; the good article setup is too tough to accurately be able to pull a list of nominated, and delisted good articles. It would essentially go down to pulling everything from page history to make sure that it's accurate. I'll think about it, though, for the future. Ral315 » 20:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
There is talk over at WP1.0 about putting a category tag inside the GA banner so they would all show up in one category automatically. I would think this would simplify the task tremendously. --Ideogram 08:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, the issue is that with a category, it's really tough to tell what's new to the category, and what's been removed. Ideally they'd use some sort of system like FAC, where all the successful noms are logged. Ral315 » 19:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Have you suggested that to the GA folks? --Ideogram 22:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


Would you be able to stick me back on the signpost spam list? I've forgotten exactly where it was, and I've been inactive recently, so you took me off. Thanks! Jude (talk) 13:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Jude (talk) 00:00, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Pda[edit]

Hi, Ral315. You mentioned the user Dr. Pda in Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-02-19/News and notes, but that username has no contributions. I tried several variations on the name, but I did not find one with contributions. -- Kjkolb 22:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

That's just nonsense...[edit]

I know it was confirmed as unrelated, but I was just reporting a few users because their suspucious behavior, which included this. Can you explain to me what this comment is supposed to mean: however, at worst, it would clear Squirepants101 of any connection. Squirepants101 02:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


I noticed you nominated this for deletion. I created it so that admins can tag it with a reference to the webpage so that users can see why the article was deleted and salted. Don't worry, though. I wouldn't mind if it gets deleted. I copied it to subspace. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, odometer) 21:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


One further question, as the deadline is around 3am my local time, is it alright if I submit it at around 11:00 UTC? If there is any updates prior to the deadline, you might have to quickly add them in for me. Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 08:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm impressed[edit]

I saw the RfA talk page for Trebor Rowntree. I appreciate your willingness to quickly concede defeat and apologize unconditionally once you saw you'd made a mistake; many people wouldn't do that. Also, had your allegations been correct, it would have been a bad thing to have a puppeteer as an admin.

Most of all, I was impressed by your investigatory skills, resourcefulness and tenacity. Can I talk you into getting involved with WikiProject Spam? We can really use your skills there; some of the discussions on the talk page, WT:WPSPAM, will give you a feeling for just how complex and sneaky some scam schemes can be. Another is this example of a spammer raising a stink about how shabbily he was treated and how much he and his colleagues had contributed to many articles:

along with my response:

Investigating and blocking complex spam schemes is interesting and important work with too few people doing it. We could really use your skills and time if I can talk you into this. --A. B. (talk) 22:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

the noob[edit]

I would respectfully ask you to undo your last edit to the protected page of "the noob". The closing administrator is currently under RfC for his percieved unilateral actions on that very DRV. The article is not completely gone, it is under revision in my userspace at User:Timmccloud/The_noob, where it has been substantally rewritted as prose, with much of the objectionable content brought up in the AfD removed. The link to the article was intentionally placed in the deletion box, and I feel it deserves to be restored. Timmccloud 00:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Features and admins[edit]

Features and admins is complete and ready for inclusion in the Signpost. Sorry I couldnt submit it later, but its 10pm where I am, so its a bit difficult. Any changes made before 17:00 UTC will have to be included in next weeks edition. Cheers! Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 10:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Request an account[edit]

I'm interested in helping out. What do I need to do, what needs to happen for me to get this done? - Ta bu shi da yu 08:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-02-26/Peppers pickle[edit]

Dear Ral315, I am one of the readers of the Wikipedia Signpost. I noticed in Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-02-26/Peppers pickle that a link is not correct. I am not sure whether I can edit the page, however, the page is not protected, so, I was bold and corrected the link to point directly to the intended page as can be seen here. I didn't change anything. If what I did was was wrong, please yell at me! Thank you. --Meno25 09:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


I would just like to point out that all the newbie arbitrators appointed in January were interviewed by the Signpost, but that I (and I assume, Mackensen) have not been...*Sniff* ;) Essjay (Talk) 09:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Pipe trick[edit]

I've done it! I'm currently struggling with subversion to make a diff to submit as a patch. David Mestel(Talk) 19:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Signpost Suggestion[edit]

Please join the discussion at my talk page about a suggestion for the Features and admins section of the Signpost. I think it would be best if you could handle this one because its my first Signpost publish and I don't really know if its necessary. Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 20:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

re: Request account issues[edit]

You could fashion the page after Wikipedia:Changing username. Create a similar template for the anon to fill out, put up the link to check the status of the name, and put a link to make new requests their own section. This won't necessarily facilitate handling ineligible requests, but may cut down on such request from occurring. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


I am interested in being a At Large person who writes about the stuff that doesn't fit. Geo. Talk to me 01:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Signpost RSS feed ready[edit]

My Signpost RSS feed looks like it's working fine. Feel free to include a link to in future editions. I made a little writeup on my blog [5] if you want something to link to. Thanks, --dantheox 06:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

New version test[edit]

Following my own suggestion above, I've created a new version that crimps off the Changing Username design, making very clear the steps that need to be taken.

Feel free to ad on or ignore. The template, which I ripped off from Template:Renameuser isn't very good, but it meets our needs for now, I guess.

--Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 01:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you going to use any of those? If not, I'll probably nuke them. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 10:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

2-26 Signpost[edit]

Hi, Ral. For some reason I didn't get the last edition. Any way you could check what the matter might be? Thanks, Mmounties (Talk) Black Paw.svg 21:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Emailing those who have requested an account[edit]

Thanks for your offer. The two that need doing are:

  • [6] name already taken and
  • [7] no user name requested.

Regards --Golden Wattle talk 10:48, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi - on the talk page of the Request page I also suggested an evaluation. Only one of those for whom an account has been created has actually edited from it (or that was the case when I checked earlier today). Maybe it is a service which doesn't work, as although potential editors nominate an account they aren't really interested.--Golden Wattle talk 10:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Essjay RFC[edit]

I just wanted to say well done for moving that monstrosity to the correct place. :) --Spartaz Humbug! 22:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Entrusted with the Bucket![edit]

Yes, my identical copy of bucket-and-mop =]

Thank you for supporting me in my RfA. Thanks for your vote, I've received an overwhelming 96% support and successfully took a copy of bucket-and-mop from the main office!

School graduation exam and HKCEE are both pressing in, so I might become inactive for a while. But soon after that, I look forward to working with you! --Deryck C. 03:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


Good afternoon (GMT time); hope you're well. I've noticed you're opposing the three requests that I've made over the past 6 months, namely RfA, ORTS and MedCom so I'd like to ask if there is any reason so? I'd love to hear the advice you have for me, so if there's any please get in touch!

Otherwise, thanks for your opinions and happy editing.

Kind regards,
Anthonycfc [TC] 15:51, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi again; I think you might of missed this (or ignored it :) because you've replied to the bottom comment, but not this one. I'll take it that you don't have any advice; ah well - happy editing!
Kind regards,
anthonycfc [talk] 00:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, not at all; I just keep getting pressed for time and a proper reply to you would take a while longer. I apologize; I'm going to bed now, and I'll try to reply later. Ral315 » 11:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Medcom nomination[edit]

I assumed bad faith because he technically lied by saying I would lead Arbcab, as none of the pages show me saying such a thing. Geo. Talk to me 22:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


Hello again, I'm just writing this to let you know something. Always save your work every 5 minutes or less. Why am I telling you this? Well, about 5 minutes ago I was about 80-90% finished on this weeks Features and admins - and I then saw the BSOD. It was pretty depressing as it has all gone. Have a great day, Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 23:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I might just download Firefox and try that. I am currently using IE6 on this computer while my new computer with Vista gets upgraded. Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 01:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


I've made a statement at the above page, for your particular attention. Might I just say again, I only recently noticed your contributions to my ORTS request - as in, minutes before I sent the email :)

anthonycfc [talk] 23:30, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


Yes, I suppose the 'policy' says they should have gone thirty days; I think this is excessive. Nobody has carried out officially-sanctioned usurpations before, though when I was running WP:CHU I was accustomed to fulfill such requests immediately if the target account had no edits, on the principle that it's all reversible anyhow. I guess I am setting precedent. If any complications arise I will be glad to deal with them. Regards — Dan | talk 07:58, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


I just stopped by to say hello. Jimmy was in India:

Perhaps it deserves a mention in our sign post :) --Bhadani 19:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I am, indeed, myself.[edit]

The meta account Ral315 is my account. Ral315 » 08:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Schwob and boys[edit]

That edit has been haunting me, I made it in haste and forgot where I got the info. I am not surprised you should have noticed - it was only a matter of time. But you have driven me to look it up, and I was lucky enough to find it again - in Montgomery Hyde's book, The Love That Dared not Speak its Name, p.9. My quote on line is pretty much verbatim. It is in a section detailing the reasons many find buggery odious, physical harm and venereal disease being among them. I'll add the cite in the article. If it is any consolation, Schwob himself was a fan of apocrypha in biographies:

But biographies can do more, Schwob argues, with oddities

and idiosyncrasies, than “historical science” can:
That such-a-one had a crooked nose, that he had one eye higher than the other, that he had rheumatic nodules in the joints of his arm, that at such-an-hour he customarily ate a blanc-de-poulet, that he preferred Malvoisie to Château Margaux—there is something unparalleled in all the world. Thales might just as well have said [Know thyself] as Socrates; but he would not have rubbed his leg in the same way, in prison, before drinking the hemlock. (Hermione Lee: Virginia Woolf's Nose, Ch. I) Haiduc 12:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


I have listed this template at requests for unprotection. I thought I should let you know, since you are the admin who protected it. I would like to know what the reason was - it doesn't seem "possibly high-risk" to me as an obscure user-talk canned message. --Random832 17:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Skutt Catholic High School lawsuit[edit]

Hello, would you mind explaining your removal of the paragraph on the Skutt Catholic High School lawsuit on the article's talk page, for the many people who have been monitoring it? I don't see yet how it fails WP:A or WP:NPOV—in my opinion it's a huge deal, even the Signpost has an article on it which was worded as the school itself was suing the editors—however you must've had a relevant reason to remove it that I'm not seeing, or consensus to remove it was reached elsewhere. Regards, Tuxide 22:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for your response although I'd rather it be on the article's talk page instead of my own. I do agree that simply making the news doesn't mean it passes WP:A. In this case, however, the Skutt lawsuit didn't simply make the news, it made the front page of the Omaha World-Herald, a major newspaper. In addition, it also made The Register [8], a British news website, and they were nice enough to include a handy reference "to help the elite administrators tending to the revised Skutt entry". I don't know if the Skutt lawsuit was dropped. Furthermore, I don't really care if a mention of the lawsuit is on the article—I'm personally not a big fan on encyclopedia articles about high schools—but I'd rather see a valid reason on the article's talk page so nobody adds it back on there. Regards, Tuxide 23:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

In the news[edit]

Hi! After taking the bar, I have started my new responsibilities. Unfortunately, I can't make the commitment to write "In The News" each week. Let me know if I can do anything to help you find a new person to write the weekly column. --Trödel 14:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

RSS Feed[edit]

No worries, just so long as the Signpost has an RSS feed I'll be happy. --dantheox 06:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Happy Holiday![edit]

Irish clover.jpg This user would like to wish you a happy St. Patrick's Day.

Trampton 22:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

Signpost- (WikiCast Programme)[edit]

Will attempt to do the current issue over the Weekend..

Please keep me informed in relation to the next issue :-)

ShakespeareFan00 17:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


I see, I thought Tra was an admin, so I didn't see why he kept those. John Reaves (talk) 08:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

My account creation was just cut off. Don't I have unlimited creations as an admin? John Reaves (talk) 08:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


you probably get hundreds of suggestions... but did you do Dumpster Diving Yet? LazyLaces 14:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The Game (game)[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of The Game (game). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

What's the big deal about listing the rules of the game. It was listed a while ago and was a good resource to give to the other counselors at my camp to explain it to them by posting a link to it on the camp list-serve. I've recently been told it was taken down and requested to put it back up. It's been played at every camp I've ever worked at, and for new counselors the Wikipedia page is helpful. Isn't Wikipedia supposed to be a helpful source for research?

Signing for bot; deletion upheld (though all I did was add a {{deletedpage}} notice after it was deleted; I'm not sure why I was told about it). Ral315 » 06:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Switching IPs[edit]

I noticed you've been changing IPs in order get around the account creation limit. I'm not very techno-literate, but is there an easy way to do this? Would it still be possible to do this with cable internet? John Reaves (talk) 08:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

It didn't work, I guess I'm static. Thanks anyway, I'll just wait until tomorrow. Any news on that bugzilla request? John Reaves (talk) 08:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Drop by[edit]

Hey Ral; how's things?

anthonycfc [talk] 19:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Maude (disambig)[edit]

"Reverting; this is NOT how we do things here." ~ Ral315
I noticed this terse note on your revert of Maude (disambig). It begs the question: How do we do things here? I notice you've been on Wikipedia for some time now. Please point me in the direction of any procedure I can use as a guide. Regards, JohnI 08:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)