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POV campaign against Iran articles[edit]

Please get involved whenever you have time to spare. See: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iran - Vandalism against Iran articles

I have already gotten extensively involved and have deleted a lot of the vandalism, especially the ones created by the lying vandal Mtheory1.ResurrectionOfABeast (talk) 13:22, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Just a Thought[edit]

You should realize that the countries that are a part of Western Asia are ASIAN, hence the word- ASIA! South Asia TRADITIONALLY refers to the Indian tectonic plate- of which Iran is NOT a part of. The Indian tectonic plate consists of India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and the Sindh/Punjab provinces of Pakistan (both of these provinces constitute a majority of Pakistan's population, with cities like Karachi and Lahore) . Afghanistan is considered to be a Central Asian country, with heavy South Asian influences due to its long Pakistani border. Iran, however, is a primarily WEST ASIAN country- Northeastern regions, and Southeastern areas, could be placed in Central Asia- due to ties with Turkmenistan and Southern Afghanistan/Pakistan, respectively. Western Pakistan and Afghanistan are GEOGRAPHICALLY Central Asian as well. Iran is defined by the Zagros and Elburz mountains, which are part of the Caucasus- Anatolian mountain "region"- therefore, most of Iran's populace has closer ties to the Caucasus and Northern West Asia- which are NOT ARAB SPEAKING- mostly Turkish, Azeri, Kurdish, and Persian related groups. Notice, all of these areas ARE ASIAN'. As MOST of Iran lives in the North and West, the cuisine also has a very Caucasus- inspired taste- less spices! Breads such as Lavash are also primarily Armenian/Azeri. However, it does have a very Mediterranean flavour, due to geographic proximity. Tehran, Esfahan, Tabriz, Hamadan, and Mashhad are located in either the West or Northern parts of Iran, and have either more Caucasian, West Asian, or Central Asian "flair". Most Iranians come from regions surrounding these cities. Therefore, Iranian culture is a mixture of Caucasus, Central Asia, and West Asia, with more influence from one or the other depending on the region. Due to very little populace living in Southeastern Iran, South Asian cultural influences- from the plains of India and Pakistan- are practically non-existant in MOST of Iran, except for Baluchistan. Iranian culture did heavily influence the Ottomans and Mughals, however, and similarities between Iranian and South Asian cuisine and culture do exist due to the Mughal culture. Same goes for Turkey, and countries ruled by the Ottomans, who were also extremely Persianized. If you are an Iranian, it is most likely that you also have Azeri ancestors, who are thoroughly part of the Caucasus' cultural quilt, and have EXTREMELY close ties to their brethren in neighboring Anatolia/Turkey. Kurds, who constitute a large part of Iran, also live in neighboring Turkey and Northern Iraq. The southeasternly Baluchis, however, who could be Iran's closest tie to South Asia, do not constitute a large part of Iran's ethnic community. Iran is a primarily Persian, Kurdish, and Turkish/Azeri nation. Even the Persians have great admixture with the Turks, Kurds, and even Arabs. Therefore, it can be said that Iran is a West Asian country, with significant Central Asian and Caucasian influences. YES!! ASIAN- but West/Central Asian, as Iran is NORTH of the Arab regions of West Asia. https://2d560d83-a-df998bd3-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/ngs.org/ngs-style-manual/home/A/asian/Asia%20Map.png?attachauth=ANoY7co_FQQ3y7HhpIjuGPf2_oqJmtE-9TYZW1l40nJqZv7KbcgYerYRxTCdVaKYacFWlbaqHp-MqIvaKTCxHPjFB2gLuFkh5wfEjj4B7Pdju2PGqhJbXcf0xR3T4YBsn13H_cj5dIDvSoe0KfFIdTBHx3zaYcW5CXmFUh1yeBejApj4h_BFDcxx7Y5jB-hKfKUOeLilX3L-vaFZroE8GhU_j1sTbvRI9nu-_oLheky8JGzbwS7WnBU%3D&attredirects=0 MAP OF ASIA from National Geo.- the UN geoscheme is not based on proper geographic and cultural facts- even many of the UN's departments don't use the UN geoscheme, as it incorrectly regionalizes many countries, and causes confusion. Makers of the geoscheme have admitted its faults, and are working to fix it."" Various universities' departments of South Asian Studies also, by and large, reject the idea that Iran is part of South Asia. If you are Baluchi (2% of Iran's populace), you could consider yourself Central/South Asian. ANYTHING ELSE, your are either Western Asian, Central Asian, or Caucasian. Also-Afghanistan's Persian speakers are Tajiks, or Hazara. The Tajiks are Uzbeks, Bactrians, and Sogdians who learned to speak Persian as the Turkic leaders of Central Asia spoke Persian in court. Same with Hazaras, who originate from Mongols and Turkic groups. When people say PERSIAN, in terms of an ethnic group, they refer to any Persian speaker who claims descent from the province of Fars- however, as the Persians- meaning Iranian Persian speakers- intermarried HEAVILY with Arabs and Turks, there is no real meaning of Persian. Calling an Afghan Persian is like calling a Chinese person English, just because he speaks the language. Genetic testing has proven that the difference between peoples living across the Dasht-e-Lut and Dasht-e-Kavir in Eastern Iran is very significant. Populations east of these deserts have more Central Asian influence, however, the MAJORITY of Iran lives to the north and west of these deserts, and have greater genetic affinity to the populations of the Caucasus, Anatolia, and Northern Mesopotamia. Therefore, Iran is a West Asian nation, with considerable Central Asian and Caucasus influences, depending on the region of the country! Only the Southeast has substantial South Asian influence. NO NEED TO FIGHT ABOUT THIS!!, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonstone1889 (talkcontribs) 05:59, 4 August 2012 (UTC)


I agree, I am the one trying to state that Iran is West Asian. ResurrectionOfABeast (talk) 15:31, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Keep a watch also on the South Asia article. I've noted that a year ago an Indian-American user kept desperately re-adding Iran to South Asia despite having it pointed out to him by two other people in the talk page that this was highly dubious. اردیبهشت (talk) 00:03, 5 August 2012 (UTC)