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Hello and welcome to my talk page. I'll respond to your comments here, unless you ask me to reply on your talk page. If I've left you a message on your talk page and you reply there, there's no need for you to come here and tell me; if I expect a reply I'll be watching your talk page so I'll find out about it anyway. Cheers!

Supporting insults?[edit]

Are you kidding[1]...what the hell is wrong with this website? There is NO EXCUSE to leave up personal attacks especially not by some IP who is surely just trolling.--MONGO 00:31, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't agree with removing other people's comments or messing with closed discussions. That doesn't mean I endorse whatever it is the IP said. I have no strong opinion about it really. Besides, if they are trolling then this is not the way to deal with it. Trolls want to annoy people while not getting caught trolling, so getting angry and removing the troll post just plays right into their hands. I prefer the "leave it and laugh at it" approach. Reyk YO! 00:46, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
I see you've removed it again. What is that, the fourth time? Be careful or someone will block you for edit warring. That's not a threat, just a warning; if you do get blocked I'll say I oppose the block. Reyk YO! 00:50, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm not in a laughing about the rights of a long standing editor being placed before those of some IP who is obviously trolling?--MONGO 00:57, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
As I've told others, ANI is an admin board, and as a function of clerking it, I've removed it as an attack. I understand that one or two might not see it that way, but this admin does and it wasn't adding to the discussion and was at best, insulting, thus disruptive. It is normal to remove comments like that when appropriate. Dennis Brown - © Join WER 02:21, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Meh. Whatever. Like I said, I don't have a strong opinion about it. Reyk YO! 02:23, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Me neither now...the arbitration committee is about to make sure we can all make personal attacks anywhere and anytime we want. Anyone removing a persoanl attack will be drawn and quartered.--MONGO 02:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Oh come on. You didn't get blocked for edit warring, and that IP's comment was eventually removed. You got your way, so what are you still complaining about? Reyk YO! 02:57, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


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Thank you for quality articles such as 243 Ida, for striving to "perfection ... when there is nothing left to take away", and for your oppose to the main stream. - you are an awesome Wikipedian! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:57, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks! Reyk YO! 21:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
A year ago, you were the 281st recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style,
Cheers. I hope you have a good day too. Reyk YO! 21:00, 22 October 2013 (UTC)


You joined the Category:Wikipedians who are not a Wikipedian, which is being discussed at its entry at Categories nominated for deletion.

You may wish to join the category Category:Wikipedians working towards even enforcement of civility.

Kiefer.Wolfowitz 10:54, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


Hey, I noticed you're still being hounded by this user on the noticeboards for some unrelated dispute you were in a while back. While this edit was certainly not as ridiculously disgusting as the time he or she created a template designed to mark users in AfDs who had previously made unrelated edits he or she disagreed with, it still points to an ongoing issue. I was wondering if you were planning on starting up a discussion on Unscintillating's bureaucratic and disruptive ridiculousness or if this wasn't something you planned on addressing at this time. Thanks!--Yaksar (let's chat) 19:04, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

  • People like him are easy to deal with. Don't buy into the pseudo-legal posturing, and don't get sucked into playing those weird semantic games. Just laugh at him and tell him to stop acting the fool. He doesn't like that because he's no longer dictating the terms of the conversation. Reyk YO! 04:40, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
    • Haha, I mean I'm personally more amused than troubled by it all but his needless interruptions of proper procedural AfDs is getting somewhat tiresome.--Yaksar (let's chat) 05:07, 3 November 2012 (UTC)


I noticed your username commenting at an Arbcom discussion regarding civility. An effort is underway that would likely benifit if your views were included. I hope you will append regards at: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questionnaire Thank you for considering this request. My76Strat (talk) 11:28, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


Hi Reyk - I asked a question directed towards you at Talk:Men's rights movement. I'm not sure how often you check that page, so I figured I'd drop you a note here too. When you have the time, your feedback on my question there would be significantly appreciated. Thanks, Kevin Gorman (talk) 08:09, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

  • Hi Kevin, I am travelling on business at the moment and I don't have a huge amount of time for teh Wiki. I haven't forgotten your question and I hope to be able to give you a thoughtful and sensible answer when I get back, in a week or so. Cheers, Reyk YO! 14:40, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Holiday cheer[edit]

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Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion[edit]


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Hello, Reyk. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Competence.
Message added 00:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 00:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

    • Replied there. Reyk YO! 00:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)


My apologies, I wasn't aware I had reverted you. I have been having problems editing with a tablet where I have accidentally rollbacked, I presume I did in this case. Once again my profuse apologies. Regards. Wee Curry Monster talk 21:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Reyk YO! 21:35, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

ANI notification[edit]

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. I'm dropping these templates on the talk pages of every user who has posted at Talk:Men's rights in the last two sections. This is not meant to imply that I necessarily find any of your edits problematic, and is simply meant to inform you. Kevin Gorman (talk) 07:00, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

ArbCom request[edit]

I've mentioned you in an ArbCom case request submission. While you are not a party, your comments would be appreciated. LittleBen (talk) 12:47, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Last Res0rt DRV[edit]

Hi. Would you mind looking at this comment regarding a G4 DRV versus a recreation DRV at WP:Deletion review/Log/2013 January 15#Last Res0rt? Thanks. Flatscan (talk) 05:22, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I restated my intended hypothetical situation, if you'd care to take another look. Flatscan (talk) 05:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm not really that interested anymore. I've had my say. Reyk YO! 05:29, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

ANI stillborn[edit]

Well this was disappointing. Thoughts? postdlf (talk) 20:43, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, friend[edit]

I have written a proposed remedy to the Richard Arthur Norton affair, to be taken to AN/I in the event that ArbCom defers the case. Since the original thread is hatted, the proposal has been made on his talk page (User_talk:Richard_Arthur_Norton_(1958-_)). As you were a participant in the original thread, I would very much appreciate your comments as to whether the proposed remedy satisfies your concerns. Thanks, —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 23:30, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

  • I have no objection to your proposed remedy. Regards, Reyk YO! 23:32, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion[edit]

Hello, Reyk. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CSDarrow (talkcontribs) 03:18, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Mars 2 orbiter[edit]

I saw your edit and was wondering about your source(s). That probe was a bit over 30 years ago! Is "a 1380 x 24,940 km, 18 hour orbit about Mars with an inclination of 48.9 degrees" a stable orbit, or did its orbit decay & the probe burn up in the atmosphere a long time ago? Wingman4l7 (talk) 07:37, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I added that because the article is in the category "Derelict spacecraft orbiting Mars" but, looking back, I don't see a source for that either. I will ask the person who added the category whether they have a source. Cheers. Reyk YO! 21:12, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
This was the edit/editor; I would bet that it was just an assumption -- although Mars 3 was an identical spacecraft and it is not in that category (there is no orbit info in the article), so it's possible that editor knows something I don't. The Mars 5 orbiter (which does have orbit info) is also in that category, for what it's worth. Wingman4l7 (talk) 01:40, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
I saw the editor's reply -- good enough for me! Wingman4l7 (talk) 06:52, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

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A cup of coffee for you![edit]

A small cup of coffee.JPG Your explanation of WP:42's derivation from existing policies is among the best single actions I have seen to show compassion to new editors by advocating for simplification of policy. I appreciate the work you put into this and your comments about that page. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:37, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! That's nice of you to say. Reyk YO! 20:31, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

The single most clever and amusing simile I've ever seen on Wikipedia[edit]

Brilliant, truly. Snow talk 19:26, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, glad someone liked it! Reyk YO! 00:59, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


Hiya, in relation to your comments at the DRV, you may wish to see this. The article is clearly notable, and to keep it off Wikipedia only goes to serve the enormous butthurt that numerous people have in having this article in the encyclopaedia. (talk) 08:59, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

I have no personal like or dislike towards this article, I'm just pointing out that the result of the AfD was pretty clear. Reyk YO! 11:26, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

History section of Go[edit]

The History section of Go (game) looks well. It's properly cited with no bias. I don't see any reason in having to rewrite that part. It's just that the other parts contained loads of original research by go players themselves. What do you think?  ΤheQ Editor  Talk? 17:06, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I agree. It is pretty well-written and properly cited. I have no problem with copying it over as-is and expanding it, rather than writing a fresh history section from scratch. Reyk YO! 22:19, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

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Masters of the universe characters[edit]

I think this maybe of interest to you I since you have participated in AFD's by myself. I believe the likes of Stinkor and Moss Man should be split if you disagree or agree I have started a discussion at Talk:List of Masters of the Universe characters. Dwanyewest (talk) 20:13, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

A mention in Jimbo Wales talkpage[edit]

I made a mention of you regarding the previous AN discussion at Jimbo Wales, if you feel i misinformed Jimbo Wales, or forgot to mention a specific detail, i urge you to respond and clarify. Other than that, i hope this isn't a bother to you. Lucia Black (talk) 08:20, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the courtesy heads-up. I do not feel that you've misrepresented me at all, but I would prefer not to get involved in this matter. Cheers, Reyk YO! 10:49, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. If you could give perhaps a small mention, i understand you don't want to get involved. but i believe it really just takes one supporter to allow someone to put things into perspective. but if not, i understand. Lucia Black (talk) 18:27, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Precious again[edit]

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Thank you for quality articles such as 243 Ida, for striving to "perfection ... when there is nothing left to take away", and for your oppose to the main stream. - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:57, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were the 281st recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

  • Heya Gerda, good to see you again. How have you been? Reyk YO! 07:40, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Fine, plus traveling, see my talk. - Still missing people, but I got awfully used to it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Modification of Universe Today Page[edit]


The more appropriate place for your enquiry would have been my talk page.

The reason why Bishonen blocked the DocumentError was (archived here):

... DocumentError's persistent and quite specific accusations against Legacypac and dancing around repeated requests to substantiate them. They either ignore requests for diffs or specifics or bat them away with rebuffs such as "I don't understand - are you asking me to file an ANI against you?… this is an ANI about me", or "This isn't HUAC" (yes, really, that was one). Or complaints about the way a question was formatted, in lieu of answering it. ...

— Bishonen , talk 01:00, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

That is what DocumentError was doing on my talk page (see § In ref to the ANI). So DocumentError is not blocked for putative reasons, but because DocumentError needs to make stop prevaricating and answer the question. This DocumentError can do at user talk:DocumentError. If DocumentError wishes to, DocumentError can ignore the question and ask for an unblock for any reason DocumentError thinks is justified, and if another administrator does unblock the account and the question has not been answered, I will take that as a no and construct an appropriate ANI so that the community can decide what should be done. What is not acceptable is that DocumentError starts to edit again without giving a clear answer one way or another as that is not fair on the other party to the dispute. -- PBS (talk) 13:27, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

This does not in any way answer the question. The fact remains: it is unfair to block someone for not answering your question when they are not logged on and not editing. If DocumentError had started editing again, and if those edits involved Legacypac, then a block might be appropriate. But blocking someone for being away from Wikipedia is not; neither would, hypothetically, silently walking away from the dispute to do something else somewhere else. I ask again, what actual disruption is being prevented by this block? BTW, I asked the question on DE's talk page because I wanted both DE and a potential block reviewing admin to see it. Reyk YO! 14:25, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
It is preventative because it prevents DocumentError from editing until the such time as DocumentError either agree to abide by the restraints or does not. Your argument that If DocumentError had started editing again, and if those edits involved Legacypac, then a block might be appropriate is not fair because until such time as either DocumentError voluntarily agrees to the restraints, or the community imposes them, there is no prohibition on DocumentError making such an edit. -- PBS (talk) 16:30, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
It really doesn't seem as though you're understanding what I'm saying, probably because we have wildly differing views of what "disruption" is. To me, disruption means damaging the encyclopedia or harassing others. The concept does not include "failing to answer a question while offline". Blocking someone as a means of extracting a concession or agreement from them, in the absence of any actual damaging edits, does not seem right to me. It's too much like a shakedown, or putting your foot on their neck until they cry "uncle". It goes against my sense of fair play. I doubt if you will convince me otherwise, so good day to you. Reyk YO! 06:57, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

AWB Violation/ Capitalize the "U" in "universe" or not?[edit]

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.[edit]


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Back to reality...[edit]

I am rather unhappy with your appraisal of me [2]. I'd remind you that in dispute resolutions WP:DRN pages, it says;

"Discussions should be civil, calm, concise, neutral, objective and as nice as possible. Comment on the contributions not the contributor. Off-topic or uncivil behavior may garner a warning and a participant could be asked to step back from the discussion."

Frankly, you can say what you like to me anywhere you like, but WP:DR you have to only discuss the issue. (I too did this once, and was deservedly was pummelled for it.)

Apart from that unpleasantness, I would like you to be aware of my honest responses to Tetra quark [3] (where you are mentioned) and JorisvS [4]. This point may apply to you.

I appreciate your candour, and hope to move to a more consolatory place.

I look forward to reading your future edits.

Arianewiki1 (talk) 01:07, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

File Chiron orbit[edit]

Hello. Has the image "Chiron orbit" a copyright for UK only ? I can't use it on the French page. Best regards and thank you for your work.--Io Herodotus (talk) 23:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

No, it's free for anyone anywhere to use. Have I made a mistake with the permissions? Reyk YO! 06:58, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Probably, there are 2 files on the page of Chiron. The other one works well. There must be a problem of rights for "File:Chiron orbit.PNG". Thanks. --Io Herodotus (talk) 08:41, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
I think the issue is that the other picture is on Commons, and the orbit wasn't. I've moved it to Commons now. See if this fixes the problem. :) Reyk YO! 20:54, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Now it works.--Io Herodotus (talk) 20:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
No problemo. Reyk YO! 20:54, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png For your current GA review on Mujaddid Ahmed Ijaz. Maybe you can help me make some astronomy and physics articles, many of which are in sorry states of existence or red link existence, into Good and Featured status? Royalmate3 (talk) 03:27, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Sounds like a good idea. I already have one astronomy FA under my belt, and it would be nice to do more. What articles do you have in mind? Reyk YO! 05:56, 5 April 2015 (UTC)


Go (game) has a long-standing template that says it is being rewritten, but Talk:Go (game)/Rewrite hasn't been touched in six months. I would like to remove the template, since it scares off other people from editing.

Is Talk: Go (game)/Rewrite still active? You were one of the two editors using it, so I hoped you would know. Please answer in Talk:Go (game). Thanks. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 22:50, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi, @DavidWBrooks:. I still intend to get back to this some day, but by all means remove the template if it is discouraging other people from editing. Cheers, Reyk YO! 05:02, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

proposed iban, please comment[edit]

given your involvement, please see Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 22:08, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Arb at ANI[edit]

Hi, regarding the thread about Arb's de-PRODs at ANI, I do understand your point but I'd be pleasantly surprised if they appear on WP before the thing is archived. What would happen then? - Sitush (talk) 09:11, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

  • Well, I foresee several possibilities. I don't know what Arb will say if they show up at the ANI thread. They might voluntarily agree to dial down the deproddings. That would be the ideal outcome. Or they might turn up and be all defensive and stubborn. I just think it's fair to give someone a chance to respond. If Arb doesn't show up, waits for the thread to be archived, and then just carries on as before you would have a much stronger case at a second ANI thread. Hope this answers your question. :) Reyk YO! 09:22, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Ok, thanks. It probably gets kicked down the line and someone like me is then accused of stalking :( So be it. - Sitush (talk) 11:11, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I certainly don't think it looks stalky. Like I said, if it appears that an editor sits out an ANI discussion till it gets archived, and then just continues with the same behaviour, then one would be able to make a strong case that that is gaming the process and nobody reasonable would begrudge them raising a 2nd ANI discussion. Reyk YO! 11:36, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

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Pavlov's RfA reward

Thank for !voting at my recent RfA. You voted Support so you get a whopping three cookies, fresh from the oven!
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:45, 16 July 2015 (UTC).

  • Thanks! And it's a pity your RfA did not succeed, but I'm sure you will have better luck next time. Reyk YO! 18:50, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Medford knife And tool[edit]

Hello, I made a completely new article replaces the old one, if you will reconsider your position with regard to delete article? Thank you Eytankey (talk) 09:17, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

I have no strong opinion one way or the other. Reyk YO! 09:26, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Ok, If you can mention that there that would be nice, thank you Eytankey (talk) 16:34, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Gillevinia straata article[edit]

Yeah, on further examination it does not have NPOV. However, I feel the article could be rewritten to have NPOV. The article is intended to be devoted to the hypothetical life form that Viking 1 may have found, not all life on Mars. I think the article can be salvaged if it is rewritten. Mind assisting me in doing so? DN-boards1 (talk) 22:23, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

  • I'm sorry, but I don't think that will be possible. I don't think we can write an article on a hypothetical organism about which we know literally nothing, except that its existence is inferred from one possible positive detection among several experiments on Viking 1. If it exists, we don't know if it's even animal or vegetable. We don't even know if a single species or a mixture of different kinds of organism were detected, and it's far more likely that this was a false positive anyway. The situation is like this: a diver spots an interesting rock formation at the bottom of the Atlantic ocean that he interprets as the remains of stone buildings, then immediately starts assigning names to the citizens of Atlantis that he imagines used to live there and writing Wikipedia articles about them. The whole thing is fundamentally unencyclopedic. Reyk YO! 11:12, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

"primo hungry power-face" guy[edit]

I think I laughed up a lung! --NeilN talk to me 20:16, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Was wondering if anyone else remembered that person. :) Reyk YO! 09:20, 7 August 2015 (UTC)