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Not vandalism[edit]

Hi, Richard. Please don't call or threaten to call good-faith edits "vandalism", it creates unnecessary tension. The editor is trying to improve the article. — Jean Calleo (talk) 16:48, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

You are correct. I over-reacted. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 21:05, 21 November 2011 (UTC)


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Derek Boogaard[edit]

I decided not to revert since it's probably more detail than necessary anyway, but please do note at the source:

Between trips to Minneapolis to tend to Aaron and his legal issues, Joanne Boogaard distracted herself by gutting and rebuilding her kitchen in Regina. A corner of the refurbished family room is a sort of shrine to Derek. A thigh-high cabinet holds mementos, like photographs and jerseys. Two boxes hold his ashes.

Daniel Case (talk) 05:51, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, I didn't read the whole article, I just searched for urn and didn't find it, so my bad for not catching that. However, boxes are not urns and it doesn't say his ashes are in two boxes due to his size. It could be for aesthetic reasons. So, I might have taken it out anyways. Thanks for letting me know. I'll try to be more careful. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:08, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
I think it's somewhere in the first part of the article that they mention they needed the two boxes. Daniel Case (talk) 06:28, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Ahh, I'm sure it is there then, if you say so. As you said, too much detail anyways. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:13, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Good work[edit]

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concerning Leonardo and other Renaissance people[edit]

Leonardo da Vinci should be sorted as "Leonardo". He was called Leonardo from Vinci when he was in Florence, but Leonardo from Florence, when he was in Milan. Although it has become increasingly common to call him Da Vinci, as Dan Brown does (and the name even appears on some art texts) it is not correct.

Likewise Michelangelo should never be sorted under Buonarotti. He was known as Michelangelo.

There are some people of the Renaissance that are commonly known by a nickname: Uccello, Botticelli, and others who are always known by their last name: Ghiberti, Verrocchio, Ghirlandaio. The Ghirlandaio thing is particularly confusing since the name on its own always refers to Domenico, (the most prolific painter) while Davide Ghirlandaio refers to his brother and Rudolfo Ghirlandaio to his son.

Amandajm (talk) 12:09, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Ranks and insignia of NATO/Army/Generic[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:Ranks and insignia of NATO/Army/Generic has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:31, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Have you ever designed or worked on a template or series of templates that use nested parser functions? They do not have to show up under what links here to be used.
The template was deleted for the sake of getting it deleted despite my objection. I cannot always quit everything else I am doing just to comment on something as trivial as a tfd so I am quite puzzled at the speed of the deletion. What was the hurry?
First step for the re-evaluation of ALL ranks and insignia templates is the discussion phase. I need input from people on how is the best way to represent the ranks. Second phase is the programming/design phase of template. This can go back and forth of course. You can see part of that discussion phase on my talk page and I am waiting for these people to comment.
-- A Certain White Cat chi? 16:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
No, I'm sorry, I did not understand what you are doing with "nested parser functions". I vaguely recall what that is from college computer courses decades ago. I also don't understand how it has not been working since 2005. I would have changed my !vote if I could see some simple explanation. I looked over the link you gave and didn't see an explanation, just people agreeing some other templates were OK. I do agree that the TfD was closed too soon, but I can guess the closing admin didn't see answers as well. Can you add a standard blurb or a link to each of these templates showing they are all part of a bigger project? Can you include a link to where people are disscussing it? In any case, when you have it working, you can recreate the template. Have the closing admin userfy it for you. I am sorry if this has upset you. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:08, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
I am not upset, just trying to understand whats going on :). I typically stay away from xfd discussions so I am unsure how they function as of late.
mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions is a series of commands between nested {{ }} that are difficult to read and write. It complicates coding if it is userified as then you have even more redundant repetitious text. It would also cost me a lot of time to de-userify the template as the code would be shared with some templates currently in use in template space and others would be in my userspace. Why is it necessary to userify it? I would be happy if you could create blurb explaining that the templates are a part of the series and apply it to the templates. I do not know what to write in it to be honest.
To be fair I have not spent too much time on the rank templates until as of late as there really wasn't much of a need. It only covered the NATO countries of the time which was less than what it is today as even NATO expanded. Also the template structure is used to compare non NATO nations on several occasions. The idea to develop a generic template to better structure rank templates came about recently. While I have not edited all of the individual templates I have been discussing this with people recently. The discussion revolves around how to express the templates. Questions such as "Should the ranks be listed vertically or horizontally" need to be answered first before I attempt to code the template. Unfortunately that discussion is developing slowly as I had been busy with real-world affairs since December.
I hope this explains the points you raised. :)
-- A Certain White Cat chi? 09:53, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I see, however, to all apperances the template was broken and unused since 2005. Fastily (talk · contribs) deleted it and will gladly usefy it for you. (Create a copy in you user pages.) Here ia a link to the TfD. When you are ready to finish coding it, I'm sure you can just recreate the template with no controversy. Good luck with it. :) Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:17, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
The thing is coding is that much difficult when it is outside of the template namespace. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 17:13, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Pedophilia Policy on Wikimedia.[edit]

I made a proposal on META:Talk:Pedophilia#Proposal. (I putting this here to remind myself to look at it once in a while.) Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:50, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Your survey on Trayvon Martin title change.[edit]

This survey is a mess, people cannot support multiple titles and it is wrong to plaster opposition to all others. It should be simple 'support' and 'reason' not a vote on each an every one. Only one title exists, yet users like Buster7 have several supports and opposes at once. I say remove all the 'oppose' and simply have each user choose one 'support' and that be it. Keeps it simple and keeps the problems away. It is impossible to garner who supports what from it currently. One vote per person; that is fair. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:57, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Chris, the one that gets the most support is the one we go with. It's not hard. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Christianity Page[edit]

Hello, you wrote, "Nope. Get consensus from the talk page first." My current level of understanding of wikipedia tells me that getting consensus from the talk page for the edit that I made is not necessary, would therefore be a waste of everyone's time, and that you have vandalized the article. If I am mistaken please notify me with wikipedia policy, but I am making another similar edit regarding Jesus' command. I do not wish to be in an edit war with you, and an edit war seems to be what you are engaging, according to my current knowledge level of wikipedia policy. If I am correct, please do not waste everyone's time further. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghostprotocol888 (talkcontribs) 05:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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New CfD[edit]

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List of ethnic slurs[edit]

I put in an example of the use of "macaca" because there's an example of the use of "hymietown". More importantly, Allen's use is really more than just an example--for most Americans it's probably the only example. In fact if you go to the "macaca" page, the Allen use is explicitly specified for the slur meaning of the word as opposed to the Macaque monkey meaning of the word: "Macaca (term), a word used by United States Senator George Allen in 2006"; and on the "Macaca (term) page: "Most Americans were unfamiliar with the term until continual media coverage alleged it to be a racial slur." That there's *one* prominent use of the slur is probably true also of Jackson's use, but not of most of the slurs on the list, which are more widely known.

Please reconsider your deletion.HowardJWilk (talk) 22:25, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

February 2013[edit]

Please take disagreements to regarding the article 2012 Benghazi attack to the talk page. You and another user appear to be at the beginning of an WP:EW. Better to take this to the talk page before it actually starts.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:04, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

List of megaprojects[edit]

Richard, I started a conversation on the talk about the name and viability of the list. Please provide your thoughts. Thanks.--NortyNort (Holla) 23:16, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for cleaning up my cites at Cult. Peace!-- KeithbobTalk 19:05, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Your revert[edit]

Why did you restore this? It is inappropriate use of a talk page as a forum to spread their racist ideas. Ryan Vesey 20:53, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

@Ryan Vesey: I just do not see it as racist. How is it racist? Am I missing something? Are you seeing something I am not? Honestly, I am missing it and not messing with you. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 22:00, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
The editor implied that her idea that Obama was communicating with her was "obviously" on racial ground and therefore had something to do with her race. Unless this can be supported by an external source, it doesn't belong on a talk page. Ryan Vesey 22:10, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
@Ryan Vesey: Simply because the statement includes implications that involves race, does not make it racist. I do not see how the statement is demeaning to any race or harmful to any individual. I take a dim view of the removal other people's posts from talk pages and revert them when I see them. However, if you feel strongly about it you could bring it to the attention of WP:BLP/N and if other eyes see what you do and I do not, they can remove it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 22:32, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Bảo Thắng[edit]

I do not know English, the phrase is translated by Google Translate. All the words in the name of "Nguyễn Phúc Bảo Thắng" are derived from Chinese. Chinese characters "阮福宝嶹" in the article "Bảo Thắng" Sino-Vietnamese reading is "Nguyễn Phúc Bảo Đảo", not "Nguyễn Phúc Bảo Thắng". "Đảo" 嶹 means "island". There are many Chinese characters that sound the same but with different meanings and many different writing but mean the same thing. There are many Chinese characters are pronounced "bảo" and "thắng". Can not arbitrarily replace them for each other. Hsumei (talk) 04:35, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Moved to talk:Bảo Thắng Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:58, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

"阮福保陞" is not "Nguyễn Phúc Bảo Thắng". "陞" read by Sino-Vietnamese pronunciation is "Thăng". "Thăng" 陞 means "promoted". "Thắng" is "勝". It means "victorious". There are many character read as "bảo" but not the same meaning can not just replace a character in it. Vietnam's name originates from China not mean that they will write the name of the Vietnam accurate. There should be documentation of Vietnamese people indicate his name written in Chinese characters is what. If no, then do not add Chinese characters to. Vietnamese modern written in the chữ quốc ngữ, not written in the Chinese or chữ nôm. Hsumei (talk) 05:47, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

突擊的超人 (talk · contribs) is Nipponese Dog Calvero. Chinese Wikipedia and Vietnamese Wikipedia has banned 突擊的超人:

Hsumei (talk) 06:04, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Total siyapaa[edit]

Thanks for your very gratuitous support but now I have been not able to edit Total Siyapaa. I do not know why? But I have commented on talk page discussion for Box info. Please read this ( No I do not agree because 99% of references available on inter net say 80 Million Indian Rs (8 Crore) budget. I mean 13 sources added by me + 115 other sources which I never added please see. Some one also removed completely referenced 10 days box office world wide gross of 102 Million (10.2 Crore). I think no one is ready to listen and want to do what they want. Should i leave to put my effort to find so many references still rejected and bitten like this? (talk) 02:54, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

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Mark Reed (sculptor)[edit]

Hello there Richard, Thank you so much for your very helpful comments with regards the Article on Mark Reed (sculptor). I have read and re read and have made lots of amendments particularly with regards the fact that I certainly don't want to be advertising and the peacock terminology. I would really appreciate it if you could cast your eye over it when you have a chance and let me know where I might make more alterations as I really want to make sure that I create a good article. I have also taken your advice on board with regards the categories (read lots of other sculptors, as indeed I did beforehand but I had missed them off the end- sorry. However, I notice that some of them are in red and say that the category page does not exist, yet they are the same categories that the other pages have. Is there something else I need to do? I've read the section on categories, but did have a child in the background (it's the Easter holidays) so maybe missed the point? Many thanks again for your help. hannahlucyHannahlucy100 (talk) 21:53, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Richard, Many thanks for your very useful comments and guides with regards my article on Mark Reed (sculptor), it was really helpful and I really want to make sure I get this right. I found your advice about the tone of the article and the fact that it had both peacock terms and sounded like advertising especially relevant as it is of the utmost importance to me that I follow the guidelines of Wikipedia as it's such a great thing! I have deleted lots and also changed much of the piece but would be very grateful if you could cast your eye over it when you get a chance and let me know what else I can do to improve the piece. I have followed your suggestions on the categories, I looked up lots of other sculptors (as I did previously) to see which categories they include and found those most pertinent to this article, I must have missed them off on the original! However, although I have added then, the ones in red say they they do not have category pages on them, I don't understand as they are the same categories (bar one) that the other sculptors have. I have read and reread the section in help on Categories but can't see what I'm doing wrong (mind you I did have a small child in the background, it's the Easter Holidays!!!). If you could give me any advice on this I'd really appreciate it. Thank you again and I hope to correspond with you again soon, Kind Regards hannahlucy100Hannahlucy100 (talk) 22:05, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

  • Done. Categories need exact spelling. I just find the category I want and copy and paste it in. That way I do not miss. I fixed other stuff as well. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:47, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Arman Soleimani[edit]

Soleimani, the head of Iran's petrochemical ideal repair is one of the most political persons in iran — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aminileila (talkcontribs) 21:22, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

@Aminileila: Do you have a source to verify that? See WP:V. Is this man related to Qasem Soleimani? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Synthetic cannabis - War on Drugs[edit]

I restored the section you had deleted, adding references. I hope this is now satisfactory.deisenbe (talk) 11:04, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Deisenbe:Awesome! One or two refs would have been fine, but I suppose lots of refs show it is not just a fringe opinion. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:11, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Mabalo Lokela[edit]

Jytdog has redirected your page, but I'd wager that enough short term content has been contributed to Wikipedia that an enterprising author or editor could glean this for a book on notables in the march of ebolavirus over our species and companion animals... MaynardClark (talk) 17:35, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 unofficial disappearance theories[edit]

Thanks for your encouragement and support to the changes I made to this article, Richard. I know this kind of "theories" tend to attract unwelcome modifications, I tried to be prudent and fair. I modified the idiom "in that tonic". Answering your question I think it refers to the general tone or accent (emphasis) of a discourse, as you can see here: (check definition 11). After your comment I'm convinced I mistranslated a Spanish idiom (my native tongue), where "en esa tónica" refers to the general pattern or style in a discourse, while in English, as I understand now, refers only to the musical tone or intonation of a phrase. I changed it to "In that vein". Thanks a lot, I learned something new. Ciroa (talk) 06:39, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


Made me laugh. Actually, shoe-throwing does have a special meaning in certain Mid-Eastern Arab cultures. But I don't mind the removal, and your edit summary made me laugh. Thanks. --Epeefleche (talk) 05:24, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out the article. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:26, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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Cat sorting for Template:Cleanup[edit]

Hi, re this edit - it wasn't sorting under T, but under Τ - the Greek letter. When a category mainly contains regular pages but also a small number of templates, it's normal to sort the templates under Τ (after Z), see WP:SORTKEY, second bullet from bottom of section. In this case, the category was entirely templates, so normal alpha sorting is correct, so your removal was valid. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:09, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501[edit]

Richard loves trout fried in butter

There is a discussion; you must not have looked hard enough. I linked it in my edit summary. I see that it wasn't much of a discussion, with only two contributors, but I took action based on that discussion which involved the removal of the template, and that is how it stuck for months until a short time ago when Wakanebe Wizard re-added it without an edit summary. Dustin (talk) 16:32, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Also, less important, at the top of your talk page, it says "Click on "New Section" above to start a new convesation." - There is a typo in the word "conversation". I'd fix it myself, but some editors don't like that, so I thought I would just mention it here. Dustin (talk) 16:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
@Dustin V. S.: Ahh dammit! I did not notice the second edit, just the first and when I searched for "British" in the archive, I found a conversation above the one you mention and forgot to look below. Oh well, my bad. I usually avoid writing prose due to mistakes like that. That and I am a rotten speller as you caught. If we do not put dialect tags on the article, people will go around and change everything to American English or some other dialect and make lame excuses for it. The compromise is to have these tags although sometimes they make sense and sometimes they are just random. I guess whoever cares first slaps one on. To change it there needs to be "broad consensus", not just you and one other guy. I feel it it is needed, Wakanebe Wizard does and perhaps someone else who put it there originally (unless that was Wakanebe Wizard or myself and I forgot about it). MOS:TIES applies as well. Thanks for the WP:TROUT. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:13, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't care a huge amount if spellings that are used by British people are used in the article so long as the reason we are doing it that way is because of Singapore, an involved country. I just don't appreciate it when people change it to one dialect just based on personal preference and without consensus. I'm not saying there aren't American nationalists as well, but it is more common that an article is changed to British English thanks to this commonly used ENGVAR script which has a "to British" and maybe a "to Canadian" but not a "to American" option, which results in a disproportionate number of abusers happening to be on the British side of things. I guess this is more the fault of the script than the editors, but I don't want to leave a wall of text on your talk page, so I guess I'll just say that unless a broad consensus is established in a given article, I think people should be more limited when it comes to whether or not a dialect-changing script is allowed. All that aside, thank you for replying. :) Dustin (talk) 20:26, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

where sahara desert is situated plz tell me[edit]

where sahara desert is situated plz tell me — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:33, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

The Sahara is in North Africa. 23°N 13°E / 23°N 13°E / 23; 13 Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:42, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia's default spacings around headings[edit]

I'm certainly not going to undo your edit here, but those line breaks are actually part of the default spacings which should be there. I occasionally add Wikipedia's invisible default spacings around headings to ease editing. For those with poor eyesight and older people it makes it easier to find section headings while editing.

To see how it works, just use your "new section" tab on this page. Put in some symbols for the heading and also for content, then save it and look at the content in edit mode. Those are the default spacings here. -- BullRangifer (talk) 02:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

@BullRangifer: On the pages I have edited, people take them out. I just want it consistent with the rest of the article. In this case I took them out specifically to see the changes made using the diff function on the view history. Here is the diff where you put the space in and I cannot tell what you really changed. I have to edit it to take the line out, so I can see the changes. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:47, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Ah! I see your point. It's probably not a good idea for me to make copy edits and also add a blank line at the same time. I hadn't thought of that. Best to keep those types of things separate. Thanks. -- BullRangifer (talk) 14:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)