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Talk:Life on Mars (song)[edit]

I started another RM; make your decision. --George Ho (talk) 02:49, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Any idea who?[edit]

It's evidently the sock of someone linked to the WP:SONGDAB history, and noticed this grammatical correction edit from "when you" to "while you" which to me at least may indicate a non-native speaker of English? In ictu oculi (talk) 18:41, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Music Hour (Porno Graffitti song)[edit]

Actually, after hunting for sources I think it doesn't deserve an article. There are some sources in Japanese, because the song was used in some advertising campaign, but in Japanese and hardly notable. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 06:11, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

The third blind mouse[edit]

It's just occured to me that there are similarities between https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_third_blind_mouse comments and a particular pop editor. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:55, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Probably. Any editor who creates a new account merely to respond on a talkpage to somebody else's post isn't worth the time of day. Or put it another way, s/he is such a moron that they are incapable of being any help at Wikipedia. I do hope I am on the relevant person's watchlist! Meanwhile I shall toil at seeing how many Ghits a certain album gets. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:14, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

"IWannaDoItWithADonna"[edit]

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from IWannaDoItWithADonna, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 01:34, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

I had meant to Afd, but hit the wrong button. Now you have added refs I am happy not to pursue an AfD. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:23, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Good news.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 09:48, 30 October 2015 (UTC)


Strawberry Fields Forever [edit]

You raise a truly interesting point here, and I am not sure there is an adequate reply. To be sure, there is a song, which may be recorded or performed many different times, and then there is a particular recording, which some may regard as a standard or paradigm. But then Wikipedia is clearly not consistent. The article Strawberry Fields Forever begins ""Strawberry Fields Forever" is a song". Right, so it's a song, written by Lennon and credited to Lennon –McCartney. But later it says "Numerous music critics consider it to be one of the group's best and most adventurous recordings". Right, so it's a recording? It goes on "The song was later included …" – so it's a song again, or does it really mean recording, given that the one included in Magical Mystery Tour was that recording? (I think). There is also a whole section Strawberry_Fields_Forever#Recording, which is only about the original recording.

There is also a likely confusion with 'arrangement' or 'scoring', where it would be appropriate to have 'arrangements featuring Mellotron', at least if this was regarded as distinctive or essential.

I am not criticising your point, only raising the inconsistency that it implies. It's a good point. Regards Peter Damian (talk) 11:41, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Actually it is quite simple. It is a song which was written by Lennon and credited to Len/Mac. It was recorded several times by the Beatles (perversely we call it a "Beatle song" which is also technical incorrect), including with an acoustic guitar and with a mellotron (which was the first official release of the song). Subsequently it has been recorded by other artists. What many music fans mix up is the difference between "song," "single" and "recording." One of these has been sorted by the use of the category, "Song recordings produced by XXX" that one word, "recordings" changes the meaning significantly.
As you can see, SFF is not defined by the use of a mellotron on one recording. Most editors appear to agree with that at the present time, perhaps you should listify, (List of recordings featuring a mellotron?) as supported by some editors. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 15:11, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
I defer to your impeccable logic. I am a bit sad though, as I grew up when many of those, er, recordings were made. The mellotron sound for me was distinctive and absolutely defined them. I had never heard anything like 'hole in your shoe' before. Regards Peter Damian (talk) 16:16, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

sieh Only Holy Story und Stay Gold (Steady & Co. song)![edit]

do you just going to delete uniteresting things? then it would be increase blank spaces in your brain. do you have no brain that search anything? just search'em on the google or something...then it will filling blanks in your brain by the knowledge... Dj nix (talk) 15:24, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

deprod[edit]

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from I'm Dreaming of… A Winter Wonderland, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! 2602:30A:2EFE:F050:A51D:74AE:FC51:1E65 (talk) 19:18, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

deprod 2[edit]

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Toxic Girl, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! 2602:30A:2EFE:F050:884:A54E:F6D5:C2AF (talk) 21:47, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, but it was unnecessary. Any prod removed without any improvement means I take the article immediately to AfD. In this case I have taken the article to AfD. Any article improved and the prod removed I thank the person who removed the prod. You are a sock and soon you will be banned. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 22:18, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:People Like Us (film)[edit]

I invite you to ongoing second RM discussion. --George Ho (talk) 08:01, 29 November 2015 (UTC)--George Ho (talk) 08:01, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Removing a PROD[edit]

Hi, this is just to let you know I have removed an expired PROD from Papillon (Hitomi Shimatani song). I see you say above that you take PRODs that aren't improved "immediately" to AFD. This song is a cover of a Janet Jackson song and apparently (according to the JA wiki article) spent 23 weeks in the main chart in Japan. So I think there is a chance that proving its notability will be possible. I'm writing to ask you hold off on an AFD nomination for a couple of days. Regards, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 07:57, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, happy to hold off for a couple of days. --Richhoncho (talk) 08:47, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings[edit]

Xmas Ornament.jpg

To You and Yours!
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:12, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

If You Talk In Your Sleep[edit]

Hi, Merry Christmas. You are right, and I restored your edit. Thank you for letting me know. --Dcirovic (talk) 16:42, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Seasons greetings![edit]

Gary Barlow[edit]

Hey again! Although, I think I added all the songs Barlow has recorded on the the list I would like you to doublecheck if you have time. I can certainly see you are kind of familiar with his work. I will much appreciate it. Cheers! — Tom(T2ME) 13:11, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Actually I am not a fan (although an admirer). I will have a look, but know I will not spot any omissions. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:13, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
It's hard not to get attached to Mr. Barlow's work honestly :). Thanks — Tom(T2ME) 13:17, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

... for all your work related to categorization and song redirects. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:39, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Prod of Tuyoku Tuyoku Tuyoku[edit]

Hi,

I'm concerned about your prod of the article Tuyoku Tuyoku Tuyoku since the prod rationale you gave says in part "no claim of notability, fails WP:NSONG", but the article seems to be saying that the song placed 1st on the Oricon music charts. That would be a clear claim to notability that would allow it to pass WP:NSONGS. I do think the article is very poorly written, (even the title looks like it is probably wrong . . . I'm guessing it should be "Tsuyoku Tsuyoku Tsuyoku"), but are you sure the article should be deleted instead of being cleaned up? Calathan (talk) 18:21, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

If you think my prod is inappropriate you are welcome to remove the prod. However, with the additional information that it might not be at the right title it seems to be the kindest thing to let it go - especially as there no content at the moment. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:55, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
I have expanded and referenced the article and also moved it to the correct title. Please let me know if you have any comments. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:09, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Great work. Thanks for that. Thanks for removing my prod. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:55, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Review of No Time for It[edit]

Hello. I just saw that you reviewed the page I made for No Time for It and I just wanted to double-check that everything was alright with it or if you have any suggestions for improvement. Since the song recenetly came out (January 7, 2016), then the page will be updating while more information comes out about it. Just want to make sure that I am not doing anything incorrectly since I am new. Aoba47 (talk) 00:07, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

There is a pretty good chance[edit]

that my edit at Money (That's What I Want) will be reverted, despite the discussion on the talk page. The Admin who showed up and threatened to block me about this has sine changed his (her?) mind and considers my edit to be just fine. However i would just as soon NOT be the one who returns that paragraph if/when it is removed. You might consider doing that, since you are already watching and approve of it. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 20:07, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

This time it will be my pleasure. There is consent on the talkpage! --Richhoncho (talk) 20:34, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Categorizing redirects[edit]

I've noticed that you keep re-adding categories when song articles have been redirected. The guidance at Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects is "Most redirects should not be placed in article categories." Redirects from song titles to albums or bands, where there is no section in those articles on the songs concerned, don't appear to fall into the cases where adding categories is appropriate. Thanks. --Michig (talk) 11:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

This has been discussed ad infinitum over numerous pages. So I will recap for you, a redirect from one spelling, or different title should not be categorised because that would create duplicates in the categories. However a song is standalone and is often redirected to an album, so there is an advantage to adding basic categories (year of song, principal artist, writers). You should try a test - try adding the uncategorized tag to a redirect and see what happens! That in itself should give you an idea. NB I never create redirects. Cheers, thanks for your concern. --Richhoncho (talk) 11:19, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

American Pie[edit]

Thought of having a quick discussion with you for this. Actually usually I have seen that such content are removed since it would probably be seen as self-appraisal. But its fine by me, don't wanna go to-and-fro on the article with the edit warring. Cheers :) —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 22:55, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

It's too easy to get upset. We all make the mistakes. Don't worry, I understand. McLean was praising somebody else, so that should be OK. --Richhoncho (talk) 22:57, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Would you be interested in helping me expand McLean's version? I know you might be busy with other articles, but most of American Pie related books are not open for viewing in Google :( —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 23:04, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Life is for Learning[edit]

Hello, I am adding to this article with references and have deprodded it- can you please give me a couple of days to finish it.Atlantic306 (talk) 00:20, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Sinatra[edit]

Sinatra's song oeuvre is extremely large. Thus I thought it best to break the list down by letter. That way anyone looking for a particular song does not have to wade through the entire list. They can simply go to the letter and then begin scrolling. If you feel it would be better to have one gigantic list then feel free to revert it back to the way it was (although you might contemplate placing anchors within the list, such as is done in the list of songs recorded by Elvis Presley).

Note that whoever made this list in the first place did not set the sorting for the songwriters correctly (i.e. the first or only writer for each song is sorted by their first name instead of their last) Jimknut (talk) 15:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

I am partly responsible for both lists. I have reverted you and added anchors as per Presley in accordance with your suggestion. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:44, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

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  • User:AusLondonder has just removed an olive branch at his talkpage here. As a result I note that the ANI failed, I apologised for an infringement and AusLondonder was... well, read it for yourself, if you are interested ANI here. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 12:12, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Fast Car[edit]

I think you are right but I wish you wouldn't edit-war over it. Better next time if there is an objection to just wait for consensus to form. Saves raising tempers and achieves the same result without as much friction. --John (talk) 08:47, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

User:John. Many thanks for your comment, I have now apologized to everybody over at the noticeboard incident, in future I shall be bold, but I daresay that, too, will land me in trouble. Happy editing. --Richhoncho (talk) 12:59, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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Your message[edit]

The answer to your question is because I am busy and I expect you to do the redirect yourself. Taking a plausible redirect to AfD instead of just boldly redirecting it would be WP:POINT. As is PRODing plausible redirects in the first place. If you really are determined to be awkward, in future I will do the redirect myself. James500 (talk) 00:47, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Don't be silly. I prodded them because I did not think they were worthwhile redirects (should every song be a redirect? I think not). If you did not like the prod, but felt a redirect was appropriate you should have taken that action. If you want an example of WP:POINT, I think going through every song prod and removing the prod takes the first prize. --Richhoncho (talk) 02:26, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

I put 6 reliable sources in the article Irresistible by Cathy Dennis. Since the song charted the article doesn't need the tag of notability. You can see here: Wikipedia:Notability (music) --88marcus (talk) 17:23, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Fair comment, I missed that and I apologise. --Richhoncho (talk) 17:53, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

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No need to merge.[edit]

Hello dear, This page List of religious songs recorded by Shreya Ghoshal added to List of songs recorded by Shreya Ghoshal. No need to merger. Shreya Ghoshal also sung many religious songs so separate page is good. Zafar24 (talk) 03:51, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Now rewrite that with an explanation over and above why these lists separating two different "genres" should exist - using WP guidelines. WP:IDONTLIKEIT and WP:OWNERSHIP are excused use this time. Thanks. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:40, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

NSONGS and What a Feeling[edit]

Which part of NSONGS says that songs that sample other songs should be at the same article? I can't seem to find it there. --Prosperosity (talk) 03:14, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

AGF I have undone my edit. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:15, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Opinion on notability[edit]

Hi, I came across Moments in Time and Momento's En El Tiempo as being subject to a proposed merge (since 2012). Before performing the merge, I am doubtful that either are notable enough for an article. What is the best way to go about searching for sources to satisfy N:ALBUMS? Is there anything in either of these articles worth saving? AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 06:49, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

note: I've carried out the merge. --Michig (talk) 08:54, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Diamonds (Herb Alpert song)[edit]

I invite you to the ongoing RM discussion. --George Ho (talk) 04:08, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Single infobox not appropriate for album articles?[edit]

Hello! I see you have been removing single infoboxes from "Singles" sections in album articles with "single infobox not appropriate for album article" as a reason. I would like to know which of our guidelines says so. Thank you, Victão Lopes Fala! 17:17, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

We have infoboxes for albums to be used on album articles, people infoboxes for people articles, and so, I would think, song infoboxes for song articles. There doesn't need to be a guideline for everything, save that WP:COMMONSENSE helps. If you still disagree, you may revert me, but I don't expect these albums to reappear in Category:Song articles with missing songwriters. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:03, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Oh, it's just that not every single will be able to get a separate article. Indeed, most of those single infoboxes in album articles are there as a result from me merging the single articles with the album articles to avoid total loss of information in case of deletion. Maybe a parameter could be created to force the articles out of song categories? Victão Lopes Fala! 17:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
I really do not want to make a stand on this and you should go with your thoughts on the matter, perhaps a read of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes may help? --Richhoncho (talk) 19:03, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

All Things to All Men[edit]

Hey! Thanks for your edits to the article I created. I realised the mistake in the title but didn't know how to fix it! Thank you!! :) Andrew Henderson 21:03, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Sevendust Songwriter credits[edit]

I am friend of John Connolly (guitarist of the band). I asked him about the credits back in march 2015 when i met him in Architekt Music studio in Butler, New Jersey and he determined for me. Songwriter credits based on MetroLyrics is pointless. THANK YOU. Arashinc 12:41, 09 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arashinc (talkcontribs)

Ditto unreferenced personal comments without independent substantiation. If your argument had been stronger I would have invited and helped with showing there is an alternative view, but there isn't. Please read WP:RS and the references added to each article (which John must have signed in the first place. Also the note at the top of this page. --Richhoncho (talk) 20:17, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

BMI is meaningless. It's funny that it says XMAS DAY written by all of the band member. But we all know that the whole song written by Clint Lowery (lead guitarist of Sevendust). I think u don't know the band. Also ENEMY from 2003 album Seasons written by Butch Walker and drummer Morgan Rose. He mentioned it in a lot in interviews. Please don't give people wrong info. THANX Arashinc 12:56, 09 May 2016 (UTC)

BMI is a professional organization for collecting and distributing songwriter royalties. Only the band know who wrote which and what, but if Clint wanted to credit the others in the band who are we to argue? Factually BMI will be the nearest we can get to the fact. The fact you mentioned MetroLyrics first shows you have no idea what you are discussing. FWIW, I have added PRO details to over 1000 articles in the past few days, I have had several thanks but no complaints until now... As for interviews, that's marketing, not facts. Go figure. --Richhoncho (talk) 20:32, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

I disagree with you in this case. U r giving people wrong information. Those songwriting credits r completely false. Thanks to you! Arashinc 01:09, 09 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arashinc (talkcontribs)

Fine, please read Wikipedia:5P2. --Richhoncho (talk) 20:50, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Don't you understand that the songs are not written by all of the band members! For example Sevendust bassist is just a player. He never approach to the band writing period. But the references that u've mentioned saying that he is part of writing section. That's laughable my friend. Please re-think. Thanx! Arashinc 04:16, 9 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arashinc (talkcontribs)

I understand that you delete posts on your own talkpage. As I said there, this edit of yours confirms validity of the referenced information I am adding! What a bore! You can't even sign your own posts. --Richhoncho (talk) 00:42, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Additionally, in the context of WP, "writer" means "songwriter" which is "words and music." and NOT lyric writer only, as you seem to think. Removing all songwriters from the infobox, which you are doing in some instances, is not helpful either, nor is removing references because you don't like what they say. Music needs to be composed and it is obvious that this band shares the credits, for somebody to say otherwise is untrue. As I said above, if you have verifiable alternative information then you should add with references. That's the way it works. --Richhoncho (talk) 07:43, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

With all respect, i think u just give credit to BMI wrongly. For example this shows how wrong they are. It says Sevendust former guitarist Sonny Mayo is one of the writer of Sevendust's 2005 album, which is totally incorrect. Sonny Mayo joined the band after Sevendust finished recording that album. --Arashinc 20:24, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Which song? Your link does not help. Also you changed Animosity with this reference. The sheet music clearly says Lyrics by Morgan, Music by Sevendust, so your edit was wrong and your revert was wrong. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:07, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Also, Whereas BMI might be wrong from time to time, its not wrong for one artist on 29 songs, that's a silly concept, isn't it? Somebody isn't getting their due songwriting royalties, eh? --Richhoncho (talk) 16:54, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
And, in relation to the question raised, why should all the writers be members of the band? --Richhoncho (talk) 17:09, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
@Arashinc:. It's been two days since my last post and you have not replied. Unless you can find reliable sources to back your claim that BMI is wrong I shall re-instate the BMI references and associated information. Hope this gives you time to finally back your opinion with some substance. --Richhoncho (talk) 14:06, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Unknown songwriters[edit]

I haven't followed the discussions on this category, but was wondering about the infobox parameter. Rather than "Unknown", would it be more appropriate sometimes to use "Conflicting credits" or such? I usually leave out the writer field if there is conflicting or unclear information about the songwriter (see Talk:Black Angel Blues#Songwriter(s) for an example). Adding "Writer(s): Unknown" seems so open-ended. It might lead some editors to add the first name they find from a release or other article, as if WP hadn't considered it. —Ojorojo (talk) 19:02, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

I started putting "Traditional" on some articles (as is sometimes used in sheet music, album covers etc, then I thought that was a little nonspecific in a general encycopedia setting, I am still without a firm opinion what should be added, so if you have a suggestion, please let me know. I think (and I do appreciate that this is OR) that most of those old blues songs were adapted and adopted with no concern of authorship. FWIW, Any song/single box that does not have writer or that section is incomplete, the article shows up in the category, which I am trying to empty. As for what other editors might do, see above, somebody thinks the lyricist is the only person worth mentioning! --Richhoncho (talk) 19:16, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
I think "Traditional" has a more limited use – long established, part of folklore, etc. Many of the classic blues from the 1920s and 1930s were quite recent commercial songs recorded by the stars of the time (I don't want to overemphasize blues, but it's what I know). However, conflicting credits from reliable sources is a much broader issue (and applicable to the future Pages and Dylans). Would "Writer(s): Disputed" fit this situation? Of course, it would need to be referenced in the text. That way it would show something more than what some may perceive as "Unfound". —Ojorojo (talk) 17:19, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
I am happy to see "disputed" used where you think appropriate. Many thanks for all your great work on a great body of music. --Richhoncho (talk) 17:23, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Puzzle (song)[edit]

Hi, Richhoncho. I don't quite understand your edit to Puzzle (song) here. Han Seung-hoon and Ko Jin-yeong are not songwriters for this song, but instead are composers and arrangers. How did this article end up in Category:Song articles with missing songwriters? — ξxplicit 06:38, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Traditionally a songwriter is a person who writes words and melody. A lyricist is someone who writes words, a composer is somebody who writes melody. An arranger is somebody who puts other instruments to that melody. The word "writer" in the infobox is a little confusing because it means songwriters. I have taken the liberty of not differentiating what the contribution is in the infobox, but would have no problem adding "lyricist" & "composer" as appropriate. Hope that is clear. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 08:49, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Ace of Base 'Living in Danger' year of release[edit]

Hi, I saw you re-added the 1992 songs category to the Ace of Base "Living in Danger" article, stating that the song was released in 1992 in your edit summary. However, the song did not appear on the original 1992/3 pressings of the "Happy Nation" album - see https://www.discogs.com/Ace-Of-Base-Happy-Nation/master/129585 for various releases. It was a new song recorded for the 1993 U.S. version of the "Happy Nation" album (see https://www.discogs.com/Ace-Of-Base-Happy-Nation-US-Version/master/129586). Therefore, '1993 songs' would be the more-appropriate category.Nqr9 (talk) 10:26, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

OK. Your edit said it was a 1994 single, so I assumed wrongly you were making the usual error of equating single release with song. I have now amended to 1993 song as per your comments above. Thanks for putting me right. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:31, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks.Nqr9 (talk) 11:32, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

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El harba wine[edit]

Your recent edit added John Matarazzo as the songwriter for "El harba wine", citing an ASCAP entry. My CD copy of the Kenza album gives the songwriter credit as follows: "Khaled - Amar - Mohamed Angar - Mohamed Benhamadouche / Khaled - Idir". (See also, for example this discogs entry.) I don't see any mention of Matarazzo on the album credits, although Google does suggest he produced a different Khaled record. I didn't turn up the ASCAP listing you mention in your edit summary. May I ask you for more detail about that source? (This record happens to be a personal favorite, ever since I first saw it on a world music video program more than a decades ago; I'm still looking for a workable translation of the lyrics!) Thanks. --Arxiloxos (talk) 16:08, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

I wondered whether I had the wrong song, perhaps you could be so kind as to add the songwriters as per your information. Thanks. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:11, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Done.[1] Thanks. --Arxiloxos (talk) 21:05, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Good Girls (Obie Trice single)[edit]

I have converted your proposed deletion to a redirect. Please consider merging or redirecting as an alternative to deletion WP:BEFORE deletion. ~Kvng (talk) 13:49, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

I did consider it. I thought about the content, the references, the claim to fame and I also thought about the WP article title which failed WP policy. Perhaps you should consider if converting every prod to a redirect is ALWAYS the correct way to proceed? --Richhoncho (talk) 14:03, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
How does the title fail policy? Names of songs seem to be likely search terms and so are good candidates for redirects. ~Kvng (talk) 15:22, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
It should be disambiguated by "song" not "single." --Richhoncho (talk) 16:44, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Why not just rename it then? ~Kvng (talk) 16:56, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Because it was unreferenced, non-notable and failed NSONGS and GNG, as per my prod. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:15, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
OK, I guess that's not an important issue here. Just curious. Sorry to go off track. ~Kvng (talk) 14:56, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
But it was a relevant question, because of your action we now have an irrelevant and non-standard redirect. I am at a loss to see a benefit, if it had been deleted somebody could, just as easily, created a referenced article with the correct name, but your actions stopped that happening. I also note you have failed to answer my very reasonable question above. --Richhoncho (talk) 15:35, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm at a loss to see how this is any harm. What was the question I missed? ~Kvng (talk) 13:46, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Category:Songs written by Brent Mason has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Songs written by Brent Mason, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 01:13, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Category:Songs written by Clarence Coffee Jr. has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Songs written by Clarence Coffee Jr., which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. MSJapan (talk) 05:47, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Category:Songs written by Courtney Harrell has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Songs written by Courtney Harrell, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. MSJapan (talk) 05:50, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Just FYI...[edit]

I'm finding those cats in connection with cleanup and rebuild on a Nikki Yanofsky album, not tracking your contribs. It just so happens that they overlap on songwriting credits, and I discovered that neither of them have articles when I looked for them. Notability of songwriters is often tough, and I don't know that we should be catting otherwise unrelated material if the cat topic itself isn't WP notable. MSJapan (talk) 06:02, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

The songwriters are a defining attribute of the songs. Whether the songwriter does or doesn't have an article at WP is a separate issue. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:46, 25 July 2016 (UTC)