User talk:Riley Huntley

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RileyBot ignoring demo= parameter[edit]

In this edit, RileyBot substituted the {{xsign}} template, despite the |demo=yes parameter being set. In general, bots should never modify templates with |nosubst=yes or |demo=yes (as is documented in many templates, such as Template:Db notice doc, and this convention is honored by other bots such as User:AnomieBOT). Thanks. --Ahecht (TALK
) 17:18, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, missed that parameter as something to ignore. -- Cheers, Riley 17:29, 26 January 2016 (UTC)


Fairly minor thing. Your signature contains an external link which looks unnecessary; you should be able to replace it with an internal link and shorten the code. — Earwig talk 19:15, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Fixed, cheers! -- Cheers, Riley 19:17, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Hey my friend, it was certainly amusing to see you here again! Face-smile.svg SwisterTwister talk 06:30, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Good to see you too, mate! -- Cheers, Riley 09:13, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion at :w:mdf[edit]

This is Farhad from m:Wikipedias in the languages of Russia project.
I noted your activity marking article stubs for speedy deletion @ mdf: & would like to request you to explain the reason. That wiki doesn't have such a policy and it doesn't fall under en:Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion.
This dormant wiki has a total language community of about 2000 native speakers (mostly computer-illeterate seniors, I live in a nearby region) and an interwiki linked terminologic glossary they managed to create is an important tool I would rather see kept.
Regards, --Frhdkazan (talk) 10:54, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

@Frhdkazan: Yes, the wiki does not have a speedy deletion criteria, "speedy deletion" just applies deletion without a week long discussion. Perhaps I'm missing something, but the articles I requested deletion for were not stubs, for them to be stubs they'd need adequate context. Speaking through my CVN/SWMT experience, articles with little or no context usually end up being speedily deleted - regardless of the project, unless local policy says otherwise. It is not appropriate to have blank articles that only exist for interwiki links, and if these articles were indeed stubs, they should be marked as such with a template. Please do correct me if I'm wrong, but rechecking some of the contributions in question; these articles met the "general criteria" for speedy deletion that we use as part of the SWMT. Interwiki linked terminological glossary is indeed important, but articles should only be created if there is context to go with them. Creating an article results in a blue link, that implies there is information to be read. Another reason to delete these pages is that by having them exist, they show as real articles when viewing the same article in a different language. (i.e. By having mdf:Культурсь exists, it shows on Culture that the article is available in mdf to read, which is misleading) I hope that makes sense. :) -- Cheers, Riley 01:18, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi there. The point is that someone put time and effort in growing the wiki by creating "those article stubs" and linking them with articles in other languages. What that someone did is good for a language whose native speakers are dying out and are too few to publish books, dictionaries or encyclopedias for their youth in a traditional way. In digital age, deleting those is like burning books ... There's a chance there won't be anyone who could recreate those later - who speaks the language and is willing to find/work with the limited number of books that it has. When on a wiki, put interests of that language users first would seem a good rule that would override any "general criteria" - similar to Hippocratic Oath. By the way, is there a way to engage all SWMT members into making constructive contribution on small wikis (like categorization and formatting, etc.), for every deletion they make? --Frhdkazan (talk) 05:35, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
@Frhdkazan: I understand where you are coming from, but I cannot agree that these articles are stubs. An article with zero content cannot be a stub. I don't see what time and effort you speak of in terms of "linking them with articles in other languages", as shown (1,2,3) many of these articles were never linked with articles in other languages, just blank pages categorized. Most, if not all, of the interwiki links were additions of bots (since removed as there is now wikidata.) It can't be "burning books", they have zero content, this is more like burning blank printer paper. In regards to SWMT doing categorization and formatting, those responsibilities are generally left to the community of the wikimedia project in question. -- Cheers, Riley 05:48, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
I see no reason to apply uniform standards cross-wiki, as all communities differ in size and available resources. Keeping mdfwiki's title-only stubs will do that language community much more good than cause discom:::@Frhdkazan:fort to other wiki readers. --Frhdkazan (talk) 15:04, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
@Frhdkazan: The reason why there are uniform standards cross-wiki, is as a said above, because these blank articles are being linked on other language wikis and wikidata. As it is effecting other wikis, the cross-wiki standards are being brought in to question. A blank article should not be created purely for the sake of interwiki links. Looking more into depth, at least 40% of the articles I tagged do not even have interwiki links. (i.e. mdf:Ломаньтъналонь тонафнемакссь (социологиесь), mdf:Ваймонь содамась (псикологиесь), mdf:Эрямопингсь, mdf:Содаф ломатть, mdf:Покодема тевсь etc) What is your reasoning for these pages? -- Cheers, Riley 22:02, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Agree, title only page without interwikis or links to it inside the project is not valuable and can be deleted without any damage for any language revitalization project that might use the wiki.--Frhdkazan (talk) 09:11, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Bot flag at th wiki[edit]

Hi. Your bot has been approved with bot flag. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 15:44, 1 February 2016 (UTC)


Bots shouldn't make edits like this [1]. Please fix this behaviour. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 13:47, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Thumbs up! Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 17:34, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

The term Self-Directed Learning[edit]

Have you read Malcolm Knowles? He popularized the term decades ago. There is an established association for it, Google the term you'll see posts almost every day of books, magazine articles, videos, etc that use it.

It's nothing like autodydactism. Would you please help me and stop the forward you you seem to insist on continuing? Thanks! JohnSWren (talk) 01:38, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

I have no idea what it is, and frankly, I have no interest. The only reason I undid your edit was because you cannot leave a page in this state. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "insist on continuing", I edited the page twice at least a week ago.. -- Cheers, Riley

Thank You[edit]

Thank you for calling out 'BMK' on his profane response to my Robert Martinson edits (and subsequent abusive comments on my page). As a first time user of this site, I have no desire to continue engaging as I am certain my edits across all pages will continue to be targeted - apparently what I've been writing is "crap". Nevertheless, I felt I should thank you for your kindness. It's a shame that some users will continue to drive others off what is supposed to be a community led site. Littlemermaid21 (talk) 15:18, 12 February 2016 (UTC)