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Please read Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. We do not cite press releases and promotional fringe websites as reliable sources in regard to claims regarding 'energy sources' unrecognised by science. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:04, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

It is about time that you started paying attention to the fact that there is some serious work being done on this, and serious money being put behind it. Certainly more data needs to be added, but unless you demand that I put everything out here in completed form, you'll just have to let me build information about this piecemeal.

I further don't think that it is appropriate for you to say that an independent press release that one of the major venture capital firms buying rights to E-cat is something that should be ignored.

It appears to me that you're not neutral on this issue, and need to get a grip on it. Robert92107 (talk) 18:16, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Are you trying to right great wrongs? jps (talk) 16:25, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Actually, (1) he did not examine the sources I used, since he was incorrectly characterizing them; (2) the article does not include recent FACTUAL information which has been reported in reliable sources which is significant to the E-cat topic; and (3) I noticed that re the patent granted last week someone inserted something which that was NOT stated in the patent itself for the purpose of coloring the topic. Thus, the article is NOT neutral, and the lack of neutrality is what should be corrected, not to state definitely that LENR works or doesn't. Robert92107 (talk) 18:44, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

If you wish to discuss article content, please do so on the article talk page - though I suggest you read Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and WP:FRINGE first - 'neutrality' does not involve giving equal weight to fringe claims regarding supposed sources of energy unknown to science. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:21, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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Please be very careful, if this ends up at ANI you will end up getting banned from cf articles, andy has far too many friends in high places. He baited me into taking him there by using deliberately inflammatory language because he knows everyone over there. You honestly can't win this.  InsertCleverPhraseHere ^{InsertTalkHere}  17:14, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Robert92107. I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia and just read through the dispute at E-cat. You wrote some things that led me to believe that you ~might~ have a relationship with the project, Industrial Heat LLC, the investor group, etc. I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.

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Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).

Disclosure is the most important, and first, step. While I am not asking you to disclose your identity (anonymity is strictly protecting by out WP:OUTING policy) would you please disclose if you have some connection with the with the E-cat project, Industrial Heat LLC, the investor group, or any other entity or person that would be relevant here? You can answer how ever you wish (giving personally identifying information or not), but if there is a connection, with please disclose it. After you respond (and you can just reply below), perhaps we can talk a bit about editing Wikipedia, to give you some more orientation to how this place works. You can reply here - I am watching this page. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 01:51, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

No. Why would you think that? Nothing I've said even implies that idea! I have no personal connection with the company or any of its people (past or present, to the best of my knowledge). I called the company yesterday and asked if they were still offering shares, and they said no; that has been my only interaction with any of their people (J. T. Vaughn). I also have had no contact or commercial involvement with ANY E-cat or LENR firm or any of those patents or published materials. Of course, I would like their efforts to succeed -- if it can -- but then, don't we all, because the world desperately needs something like that. I am certainly not going to condemn them to failure in advance of their reporting of their efforts. I think they need to be given a fair chance to try, and my section was only indicating what they said about their effort and the business facts involved. I find it bizarre that you can't seem to be able to differentiate facts from opinions.

And frankly, I find it insulting that such an obvious breach of NPOV could be assigned to me, especially when the other editors in conflict are so obvious in their abandonment of the NPOV standard. Time and again they are forcing the argument to be about validation and proof of the system. You only have to read what they wrote to see it! I do agree that care should be taken with respect to claims of validity, but that is not what my dispute is about! To the best of my knowledge every single word in my section is factually true and provable, and if it isn't, I want it to be fixed, but not suppressed as they seem to want to do. THAT is what my dispute is fundamentally about.

Lastly have you even read the section I wrote? It is actually pretty inoffensive, since it states the facts, and just the facts. I am frankly appalled that the Wikipedia mechanism seems to be failing so badly on this article. 2606:6000:C882:6000:A8F6:41F8:B931:69EB (talk) 06:38, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying that you have no connection with the company. I was concerned that you seemed to have insider knowledge, for instance about Industrial Heat LLC's patenting activities. (I do see that their PCT has published, so it is publicly available information). (About your remark on that... anybody can file a patent application - you don't have to own or control dominating patents in order to file a patent application). In any case, you clearly are a proponent of the technology. Please do be aware that advocacy is closely related to conflict of interest and edits of advocates and people with a COI are often indistinguishable with regard to adding POV to content; please do read the helpful essay, WP:ADVOCACY and please be cautious not to violate WP:SOAPBOX, which is policy. Please make sure to put on a Wikipedia "hat" when you log in, and really strive to listen to others who think differently and try to reach consensus. Good luck! Jytdog (talk) 12:54, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

All the information I put into the section is contained in the two sources I cited. This is why I'm concerned that people are commenting on what I wrote without actually reading the sources, since they are assuming things not in evidence or going on tangents not covered by what I actually said. I feel this is rather like a Twilight Zone episode, since I'm talking about A, and all these people are criticizing Z! As to your statement that "I am clearly a proponent of the technology" that is incorrect. Again, how can you say that with NO evidence? I have said nothing that indicates this; I have said in talk that I would WISH that it could be made to work, but that in no way says that I think it DOES work, or even WILL be made to work! At this point, I am not prejudging the outcome of the business, unlike the other editors. I am hopeful, but only that. I think that logically there are three positions: proponent, opponent, and "agnostic". I fall into the last camp. The other editors are all opponents, and they cannot accept that a reasonable person could disagree with them. Their position is inconsistent with the standards that a Wikipedia editor MUST adhere to! So, when I say what my position is, please do NOT misrepresent what it actually is without some actual evidence to the contrary, and there is none of that, since I have been entirely consistent throughout on what my position is.

BTW, have you ever considered that we do have one natural example of a LENR reaction? Naturally occurring radioactive decay (in which lead is the final element produced in the process) is a low energy nuclear reaction that produces waste heat. Of course, this is a very slow process, and the heat released is very small per reaction, but in relation to the earth's geology in sum it has been critical to our life. So, could there be other examples of ways that LENR could be achieved with other elements? That is the question, and I am not so foolish as to say either that it has been proven OR that it is impossible! 2606:6000:C882:6000:6418:5FAF:422:94D2 (talk) 18:01, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

You are clearly a proponent of the technology. You are very far from "disinterested" which is what the third category would be. I have no idea whatsoever what "E-cat" is. I am disinterested. I just read the article Talk page and it is clear on as the nose on your face that you follow this technology very closely and you are very hopeful it will work. As I wrote above, please do read, and be aware of, WP:ADVOCACY and the WP:SOAPBOX - things go much better when everyone is self-aware. Good luck on the article. Jytdog (talk) 20:39, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I couldn't disagree with you more! Let me repeat this again. Of course, I am not disinterested. If I were truly disinterested, I wouldn't be here on Wikipedia trying to get the article updated. (I am far more interested in other things.) I also do NOT follow this subject closely. I have read about it in the past, and recently was looking at it again because I am interested in clean energy technologies in general. I am NOT a proponent of the technology, or am I an opponent either. All I am fundamentally saying is humanity needs to give it a chance. That's why I'm an agnostic where it is concerned. The current company filing and funding appears to be the most serious effort yet to make it work. THAT is why it deserves notice in the article. IF it can be made to work, then great, since we need clean energy technologies. IF it doesn't, then some scientists and engineers will have learned something. The opponents cannot prove that the technology CANNOT work if done correctly. After all, as I said above, in nature we've already got an example of a naturally occurring LENR process. Granted that this is clearly the easiest one, but could a LENR process be made to work with other elements given the right circumstances? Who knows? I don't, but I'm not going to say it's impossible. Isn't that clear enough? 2606:6000:C882:6000:A4B6:EFB1:25D:89B7 (talk) 19:15, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

606:6000:C882:6000:6418:5FAF:422:94D2, regarding what you call a "LENR", we have an article on that. See Radioisotope thermoelectric generator. (The preceding statement does not imply support or opposition to anything anyone here has written. It is just a link to a related article.) --Guy Macon (talk) 21:26, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm making a connection between naturally occurring "radioactive decay" of stable atoms and "low energy nuclear reaction", since the former is actually an example of the latter. You don't think that some radioactive atoms are just deciding on their own to decay, do you? No, that type of "decay," which produces waste heat, is triggered by a low energy input in exactly the right way to start the process. (Of course, there are other radioactive atoms which are unstable and very rapidly decay into other atoms, but I'm not talking about those.) I haven't read the LENR article, I'm only pointing to the class of low energy nuclear reactions as an aspect of atomic physics and NOT a man-made device or process that attempts to create that process. Robert92107 (talk) 09:29, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

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Image was created by CAHSRA, so is in pubic domain. Specifically, it says: "Image was created by the California High-Speed Rail Authority, and they have posted it on their website (News/Renderings). Per state law, image is in the public domain." Robert92107 (talk) 23:57, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

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Fixed! PD-CAgov. Robert92107 (talk) 11:12, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

I don't understand what you are trying to tell me. — Ирука¹³ 14:44, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

PD-CAgov (inside double braces) indicates that it was created by an agency of the State of Californis, and thus by law is in the public domain. Specifically, the text says it is from the 2023 Project Update Report, published on Mar. 1, 2023. -- Robert92107 2603:8001:5600:42:E498:63EA:8EC5:A0C9 (talk) 00:00, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

PD-CAgov (inside double braces) indicates only that someone posted it on the file description page.

I don't see any text on the file description page that says: "2023 Project Update Report, published on Mar. 1, 2023". — Ирука¹³ 00:09, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Fixed! PD-CAgov

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ALL images and files have their source denoted. ALL are in the public domain, as ALL works of agencies of the State of California are. These should all be marked as "PD-CAgov" via the upload template. If you do not see a source reference, please let me know and I will add it. Robert92107 (talk) 04:06, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

I do not see a source reference. — Ирука¹³ 04:19, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

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{{PD-CAgov}} Image is owned by California High-Speed Rail Authority, an agency of the State of California, and is thus in the lic domain.

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NOTE THIS CRITICAL ERROR: THE "visiting the page" link in this paragraph is NON-FUNCTIONAL!! Robert92107 (talk) 08:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Oops! I apologize, since apparently I misunderstood the file to be deleted ... the '3' version, and not the '3a' version! Yes, deleting '3' is perfectly acceptable.

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