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Hi there! I'm not sure if you know of Wikiprojects - it's a collabroative project on Wikipedia where everyone interested in the same ideas can collaborate to form better articles on the subject they are interested in. With that in mind, have a look at WP:BOOKS - you might be interested! Hawker Typhoon 19:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Tamar (novel)[edit]

Thanks for fixing up Tamar (novel)! Jo7hs2 (talk) 00:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Signing talk pages[edit]

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Thanks Gwinva! X Iris Medallion (talk) 16:56, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

The House of the Seven Gables[edit]

Great work with The House of the Seven Gables (novel) - that article has been in need of some attention for some time. I am requesting, though, a citation for the quote from (presumably) Hawthorne that you used in the themes section. If you get a chance, could you plug in your source using in-line citation? Let me know if you need a hand. -Midnightdreary 17:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I realise the quotation needs a citation; I'll look it up asap. I wrote the summary for another purpose a few months ago, and the book isn't to hand just now.Robina Fox 17:42, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
That works for me! Thanks so much! -Midnightdreary 01:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Dornford Yates[edit]

As you seem to be a DY enthusiast, you might be interested in joining our Yahoo discussion group, which also has files of photos of Cockade. It was linked to the Wiki entry but someone deleted the link. RGCorris 16:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]


Thank you for correcting my english on the article René Guénon. English is not my mother language so I appreciate your help very much.

Thanks. TwoHorned (talk) 20:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you section[edit]

Thank you for your repair to the Donald Duck filmography. Some chowder heads keep going through Wikipedia capitalizing every word in titles, and the process of clean-up often misses a spot. —SlamDiego←T 20:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Transit of Venus[edit]

Hi I've just seen your edits. Are you sure the title is without the article? Actually I've just removed all the redirects from The opera corpus because they interfere with the stats etc. and it confuses things to have separate works combined. I'm now going to try to sort this out but I wanted to ask you about the title first. Cheers. --Kleinzach 08:34, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


I still argue that the second image is unnecessary because the reader's understanding is not enhanced by seeing the book's cover. It's a cosmetic differencet, the "brand new chapter" logo, which is already better-covered in the text itself. hbdragon88 (talk) 19:15, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Calling all active WP:Children's and Young Adult literature members[edit]

Stub Assessments[edit]

I'm sorry if you feel I have been mis-rating articles. I always do my best, but, as you point out, I do rate a large number of articles (mostly, I am trying to reduce the workload to a more manageable number - I will take more care when there are fewer waiting) and I don't always take as much time as I could over each article. Generally, it is fairly obvious which category it belongs in, but I often have trouble with more borderline articles, and I tend to rate harshly - I am still not completely used to the new guidelines. If you feel I have been unfair, feel free to remove the rating and I will rate it again soon - although the same problems may occur - or else request an assessment. In future, I will try and remember the new guidelines more and be a bit more lenient in my assessments. strdst_grl (call me Stardust) 16:53, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Carnegie Medal[edit]

About your recent creation of a disambiguation page: I wonder if you have taken into account the considerable number of links to "Carnegie Medal" which will now need to be disambiguated. I really think it is an unhelpful move, as the premier children's literature award in the United Kingdom is commonly referred to simply as the Carnegie Medal, whereas the other medal does not have its own page and seems to be generally referred to on linking pages as the "Carnegie Hero Fund Medal".

I would prefer that the previous arrangement be restored, with a hatnote saying "For the Carnegie Medal for Heroism, see..." etc. Otherwise "Carnegie Medal" could redirect to "Carnegie Medal in Literature" also with a hatnote, though I think that would be messier. What are your thoughts on this? Robina Fox (talk) 22:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Robina,
It's my understanding that bots follow behind and correct the links to the original page. Am I incorrect regarding this?
I'm curious if Carnegie has more than 2 medals? As you can see from their official home page, Carnegie simply calls the heroism award the "Carnegie Medal":
The Medal for Heroism dates back to 1904 and for Literature to 1936. I believe that should indicate they have more or less equal footing. What do you think?
--UnicornTapestry (talk) 00:05, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your note. I've given it some thought and read the relevant pages. I'm pretty sure bots don't fix the links - just double redirects, which don't apply here. See this from Wikipedia:Disambiguation:
Links to disambiguated topics
A code of honor for creating disambiguation pages is to fix all resulting mis-directed links.
Before moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name), click on What links here to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name.
It also advises using disambiguation links/hatnotes where only two pages are involved. Although it is true the heroism medal is older, and has more recipients too, the literature award is definitely the primary page - it has over ten times the number of incoming links and about ten times the page views. I checked over the links and found three which should have gone to the Carnegie Hero Fund (now fixed), so there is obviously some confusion, but only a quite small amount. I think a hatnote will be enough, and I don't suppose you want to be fixing all those links any more than I do! Robina Fox (talk) 11:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi again. You're clearly more experienced. I've learned from the information you provided (and have much more to learn).
In defense, I can only say this:
  • The move pages says bots will follow within 'a few days' and correct the links.
  • If the links aren't fixed by bots, by the very nature of Wikipedia they will be corrected over time. In any case, the most that would be required would be a second click.
  • I am uncomfortable to relegating an article about nearly 10,000 recipients who risked (and often gave) their lives to being subordinate to fewer than 100 recipients being honored for children's books.
  • Do we know for certain there are only 2 Carnegie medals? It seems the 2 categories we know about were unaware of each other.
In any case, I see you've executed a fait accompli, so my argument is moot.
best regards, --UnicornTapestry (talk) 17:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

It is obviously not a question of worthiness, just a matter of which page gets the most use and traffic within Wikipedia. And in fact, the heroism medal does not even have a whole page of its own.

However, it is the links which really concern me; disambiguation pages should not have incoming links which belong to another page - I don't use bots, but I don't believe bots fix this; there is a whole Wikiproject devoted to changing such links manually. I changed the Carnegie Medal page redirect to fix the links problem. You could change all the links so they go directly to the literature page (though I'm not happy about the title of it - the award really is just called the Carnegie Medal, not in or for anything), then the Carnegie Medal page would eventually be free. You could ask the opinion of people on both the talk pages and perhaps enlist some help.

Meanwhile, I have compromised - "Carnegie medal" (small "m") goes to the disambiguation page. This is what people would usually type in the search box.

I have actually found two others: The Andrew Carnegie Medal of Philanthropy (founded 2001) - which has a section in Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; and the Andrew Carnegie Medal for Excellence in Children's Video (founded 1991), not currently mentioned in Wikipedia. Neither is just known as the Carnegie Medal, and they are not hatnote material, but they could go on the disambiguation page.

Hope this is a bit more satisfactory! Robina Fox (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow, you're a very dedicated researcher and I appreciate that. Thank you.
Robina, I think you have a reasonable compromise, and your work makes the disambiguation page more valuable.
kind regards, --UnicornTapestry (talk) 22:09, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Nordy Bank (novel)[edit]

Just to let you know, I just nominated your new article, Nordy Bank (novel) as a DYK, you can see it here: Template_talk:Did_you_know#Articles_created.2Fexpanded_on_February_12, Cheers! --Captain-tucker (talk) 15:20, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Nordy Bank (novel)[edit]

Updated DYK query On February 20, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nordy Bank (novel), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 05:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Re Bank of Cairo[edit]

I don't see why we need disambiguation — "Bank of Cairo" is a redlink, so people won't accidentally end up at a West Virginia bank instead of an Egyptian one, or vice versa. Moreover, if someone would write an article about theW est Virginia bank, hatnotes could easily suffice to send a reader from one to the other. Nyttend (talk) 19:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Clara Elsene Peck[edit]

Greetings, you are cordially invited to , Cheers, --Scott Free (talk) 23:19, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Lists of books[edit]

you are correct, i had not noticed that some of these lists are of books without articles, thus may not be "notable".Mercurywoodrose (talk) 16:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Gene Kemp[edit]

Noticing your interest in Carnegie Medal winners, I wondered whether you felt like contributing to the Gene Kemp page. It was languishing in the Unreferenced BLP cleamup list (which is my current focus). I've added a bit of detail and a few references but the article clearly needs work. Just thought I'd mention it in case you were interested.--Plad2 (talk) 07:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

A couple more Carneigie Winners needing attention[edit]

If you are interested and have time. Philip Turner and Mollie Hunter both need a tidy up and some proper references. I found them languishing in the "Unreferenced BLP" list, which puts them at risk of deletion. So I have added a couple of references and removed the "unsourced" templates. If you felt like helping to knock them into shape, that would be great. --Plad2 (talk) 22:44, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

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DYK nomination[edit]

I nominated your article The Little Bookroom for DYK. Feel free to suggest alt hooks. Joe Chill (talk) 11:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

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No Boats on Bannermere[edit]

Re No Boats on Bannermere thanks for adding the cover image; are there images of the other Bannerdale books? Arthur Ransome has all the pages he needs, but Geoffrey Trease could do with some more! PS: have added to the article some quotes from Trease's autobiography about the series. Hugo999 (talk) 12:43, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

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As I've noticed you have done significant editing recently on novels-related articles, I am inviting you to participate in new improvement drive initiative at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Collaboration. I hope you are able to participate. maclean (talk) 04:29, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Ordinary Princess[edit]

Thanks for catching that unfinished sentence - that always happens to me and I woke up this morning thinking "I bet I left a sentence hanging in that article..." Roscelese (talkcontribs) 19:05, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

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Notification: changes to "Mark my edits as minor by default" preference[edit]

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British Isles[edit]

Hi Robina, I notice HighKing is challenging your use of the British Isles terminology. It might be worth you looking at the background behind this challenge. You could look at his edit history and also mine; you will probably be astounded at what's been going on. For my part, I don't have a problem with the use of British Isles in the article. As you point out, it's a good term to encompass something that applies to both Britain and Ireland and I'd be inclined to leave it. Regards, LevenBoy (talk) 15:56, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

<<--- I've copied this to the article Talk page. LevenBoy, you may not have been aware of the discussion. For continuity, probably best to continue discussing it there. --HighKing (talk) 12:55, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

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For your extensive contributions to the coverage of novels on Wikipedia. INeverCry 19:15, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


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For all of your efforts, for fixing the categories for Nocturnal, and for introducing me to the fact we have a biopunk category on Wikipedia, thus ensuring that I'll be adding at least 4-5 new books to my TBR pile!Tokyogirl79 (talk) 17:12, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Richard Carvel[edit]

  • A quick deserved compliment to you for your creation last year of the article on Richard Carvel. I added an illustration to it today in the plot section. I am working slowly on articles on Churchill's other novels. Cheers.--Milowenthasspoken 15:01, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Carnegie Medal succession box[edit]

Hi. Does WP:MOSNUM imply that Carnegie Medal succession boxes should not link the award date to Category:Years in literature. At The Machine Gunners (revision history) I have retained that one change while reverting Retrieved-date format changes that were not "per WP:MOSNUM".

I must run but I will copy this note to the other editor, hoping to forestall the same changes elsewhere. --P64 (talk) 22:53, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll admit I don't know what the Manual of Style says about this, though from a quick glance at the numbers page, there isn't anything there. The relevant page would probably be WP:MOSLINKS which has a paragraph on Year linking. I based the Carnegie Medal box on the Newbery Medal box, which has the links to "years in literature". I think it's a useful link. As far as dates are concerned, I generally prefer an easily read date to a computerized one, but for "Retrieved on...", the latter seems reasonable. Robina Fox (talk) 03:25, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Brands[edit]

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A cup of tea for you![edit]

Meissen-teacup pinkrose01.jpg My Dear Miss Fox, My name is Mavis Enderby and I recently added some information on Wikipedia regarding Aristasia. I believe you have removed my contribution. Perhaps we could come to some agreement regarding the matter. I am sure my material was all accurate and correctly sourced - if there is anything in the article that you specifically object to, please let me know and I will make some changes. It seems rather unfair for my article to be removed as I have never removed your ( rather good ) article on Miss Martindale. When I added my material I made quite sure that the link to your page was still intact. I hope to hear from you very soon.

Yours Sincerely Mavis Enderby ( Miss ) Mavis Enderby (talk) 11:07, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Miss Enderby, you're so polite x Iris Medallion (talk) 16:57, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Photo consensus discussion[edit]

Hi. Can you offer your opinion on the matter discussed at the bottom of this discussion? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 17:30, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Carnegie Medal[edit]

Got it, I'll discontinue the piping changes. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 16:45, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your note, Robina. I agree; the new name is preferable. As I understand it, there's no point "fixing" my recent changes, as the redirect will handle those admirably. However, if I get time I may try tiding up a few of the visible "Carnegie Medal in Literature" links back to plain "Carnegie Medal"s (piped to "Carnegie Medal (literary award)" of course). Best, Simon the Likable (talk) 23:35, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Re #Carnegie Medal (above): Some editors request custom robots. I don't know how, where, or what service may be expected. Vaguely I recall there is a group that considers such requests, maybe even a wikiproject.
P.S. "Carnegie Medal in Literature" may have been invented here but it has proliferated. Eg, there is "The Carnegie Medal in Literature" at facebook.
--P64 (talk) 02:36, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
About the P.S: Mistakes on Wikipedia notoriously proliferate. All the more reason to be vigilant, I guess. Robina Fox (talk) 18:50, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
I've now disambiguated (nearly) all outstanding article references to 'Carnegie Medal', the vast majority of which are now piped to 'Carnegie Medal (literary award)'. (The only ones I've left alone were references to the Andrew Carnegie Medal of Philanthropy, which, as you know, does not yet have its own page.) Happy to assist with any other hack work you need done; let me know if so! Simon the Likable (talk) 10:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! Robina Fox (talk) 17:09, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Pauline Mosby[edit]

Thanks for our suggestion, Robina. I hope my paraphrase is adequate at Talk: Pauline Clarke. --P64 (talk) 18:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks so much for your work with articles created by my students (and myself) in Children's literature! We have quite a few more new ones lined up this semester. :) HullIntegritytalk / 13:48, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Your work in Children's Literature is amazing! :) HullIntegritytalk / 13:20, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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for all the cats (pun intended) you have been adding/adjusting, fantastic:)

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Horsey stories[edit]

Hey Robina, saw your category edits on the horse books; is there a distinction between "children" and "young adult" in other categories? The Black Stallion books are really more in the YA side of things, particularly late in the series. Thoughts? Montanabw(talk) 16:11, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

I generally go with WikiProject Children's literature in regarding young adult literature as a subset of children's literature. There is no real dividing line, and classifying older books is particularly problematic. So, my policy is for the category to have a short name like "Children's novels about horses" and for young adult be added to the description line "... for children and young adults." Young adult fantasy novels has its own genre category, but that is a particularly large genre, and the category is included in Children's fantasy novels (admittedly, I did that just now, but it seemed reasonable).
I will be adding more books to the Children's novels about horses category from Novels about horses soon – feel free to help! Maybe some of the Pony books belong there too. Robina Fox (talk) 18:53, 19 March 2015 (UTC) --- on second thoughts, this is a categorization too far. Robina Fox (talk) 06:12, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

The Nine Lives of Montezuma?[edit]

Hi! I had another editor ask me about The Nine Lives of Montezuma. They were inclined to nominate it for speedy deletion but saw that there was recent activity on the page. I saw you had an edit on it so I waylaid them. Do you have any idea what is up with that? HullIntegritytalk / 12:58, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry to say I don't know the book and don't have access to it. I came across the article and was just intrigued by the title; I probably gleaned the brief description from Goodreads. The author is well respected, but this seems like a minor work. I'm glad to see some references for it, though. Robina Fox (talk) 06:12, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Cool. I am an inclusionist, so if it is by a known author and has references then I say "keep". Being about cats helps. LOL. :) HullIntegritytalk / 12:24, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


Hi Robina, just wondering why you moved Bannertail: The Story of Gray Squirrel to Bannertail? this may be what it says on the 1922 1st ed. cover but according to the title page it is actually Bannertail: The Story Of A Graysquirrel (i have used poetic license in not showing the title in all caps and have included a colon:)) Please see thanks Coolabahapple (talk) 15:45, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, I moved it because Bannertail: The Story of Gray Squirrel is simply wrong – it's copied from the anime title. I called the new article just Bannertail, without a subtitle, following Wikipedia's naming conventions on subtitles. It is a short title, but it doesn't need disambiguation. I've created a redirect page from Bannertail: The Story of a Graysquirrel.
On titles, you might be interested to know that Wikipedia has fixed rules about capitalization: see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Composition titles.
I had a copy of Bannertail at one time. I was rather shocked to see it described in the original article as a "short story"! Robina Fox (talk) 17:46, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

wow, thanks very much for the info about wikiarticle titles, sorry that i brought it up the way i did (case of a wikikit thinking they would be 'smart' by catching out a wikiveteran?:)). i think this wikikit needs to be put in place with a whack from a WP:TROUT, plleeeezze:)) Coolabahapple (talk) 04:22, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Children's literature by nationality[edit]

Hi, Robina. I see that you are at work creating and populating categories such as Canadian children's illustrators, German children's literature, etc.

User:P64/FSF/Children's/VIAF#English-speaking nominees (section 2.3.7 of my most complicated User page) is mainly a table that lists and links (blue and red uptodate about a year ago) all of the writers and illustrators nominated for the biennial Hans Christian Andersen Award by Canada (the last two of eight columns, which are below USA in the third and fourth columns, and beside AU-NZ in the fifth and sixth columns) --beginning with Roderick Haig-Brown at the head of the seventh column.

It goes without saying that 'Canadian' is national and covers both English- and French-language work. For 'German', et al. on the other hand, there should be some preface that addresses the category scope. The simplest may be essentially "See also Austrian and Swiss children's literature".

Good work. --P64 (talk) 16:54, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion! Robina Fox (talk) 17:17, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


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Canadian children's (book) illustrators[edit]

Hi, Robina. Do you understand the arrangement of Category:Canadian children's illustrators, which has subcategories Canadian children's book illustrators and Governor General's Award-winning children's illustrators and 13 biography pages (of which I added about half before noticing this point). For one, what I find from Canada Council for the Arts (via our GGAward citations) for the Governor General's Awards suggests that the "children's illustration" award is strictly for illustration of books --one book of the year, i understand. Indeed the domain name is [1]. --P64 (talk) 20:12, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

It certainly seems to be non-standard. I would suggest making Category:Canadian children's illustrators a redirect [see WP:Categories for discussion#Redirecting categories] to Category:Canadian children's book illustrators and putting the GGA category in the latter too. My preference would be to add the GGA winners to the general category – some are there already. I don't know if any of the "Canadian children's illustrators" actually don't do books, but if so I suppose they should go in the Canadian illustrators category. ---- Robina Fox (talk) 22:28, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Aran Islands bibliography[edit]

I'm glad I did that deletion yesterday. It appears that Aran Islands bibliography was a redirect for six years (less two days) without anybody noticing. It was fixed within the hour. Scolaire (talk) 22:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Mrs. A. Lynde Palmer[edit]

Hi, Robina. I hope you will give a reply at Talk: Mary Louise Peebles#Mrs. A. Lynde Palmer and other names. I suppose you haven't checked the 1915 New York Times article that we cite. I wrote the talk section having found that 1915 is outside the scope of NYT archive easily available to me, and thinking to check "someday". --P64 (talk) 17:08, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

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C. S. Lewis[edit]

Your edit summary [[2]] refers to the talk page, but I'm not seeing anything relevant there. Also, the edit seems to break a sentence in the middle of a word. -- Elphion (talk) 05:29, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I was interrupted while doing the talk page edit – I have put something there now. I just removed one sentence from the article. The sentence before that one is as it was before. Admittedly the meaning is a bit obscure, but I don't think the sentence I removed clarified it at all. --- Robina Fox (talk) 06:29, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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I made a page here: It could use more contributions. Much appreciated... Tamtrible (talk) 06:52, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of The Sixth Form at St. Clare's[edit]

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Range Hotel site, Hervey Range[edit]

Hi, Robina! I am not sure why you changed the Alice River (Black River) link to Alice River (Barcoo River)? If you are coming from Townsville on the Hervey Range Road towards Thorntons Gap, how could you be crossing a river that is a tributary of the Barcoo on the western side of the Great Dividing Range? I think it has to be the Alice River that is a tributary to the Black River, which is on the eastern side of the range. Kerry (talk) 22:14, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

I'll change it back – sorry, I should have checked if there was more than one Alice River in the region! I looked at the river map rather briefly and it didn't register that it covered such a vast area. As you have local knowledge, would you consider doing the Alice River (Black River) article? --- Robina Fox (talk) 00:32, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
There's actually 5 Alice Rivers in Queensland. I don't know if this particular Alice River warrants an article. I might just redirect it to Black River and add a mention of Alice River being a tributary. Kerry (talk) 03:19, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

English comedy category[edit]

So why empty it? any particular reason? british is nebulous, english is specific, or is there a parent cat driving the change ?? JarrahTree 06:43, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

I wouldn't say "British" is nebulous – it's British nationality that people have, after all – and I think in this case "English" is over-specific. There are only 64 pages in the category "British comedy novels", and there are no Scottish or Welsh comedy novel categories, which is often why English categories are introduced. Mostly, though, when I looked at the category there was only one novel in it, except for the one I'd just added, so it seemed rather pointless. I think one should either go all out to populate subcategories or not have them. However, if you prefer to keep it, just add some. I promise not to empty it again! -- Robina Fox (talk) 17:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
nah - your provide a good reason - thats 95 of the issue - and thanks for that - I have no problem if the english one is turned into a redirect - cheers - and keep up the good work!! JarrahTree 00:54, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

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HI Robina. Thanks for fixing When does it stop being a draft and become an actual link?

Sapphire the Dragon (talk) 01:52, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sapphire. Thank you! I will take good care of her.
Any time you want to make the draft an article, use the "move" function (under "More" in the tab at the top). I'd recommend naming the article just "Sapphire the Dragon" as there is no other article of that name, so you don't need the "(novel)" disambiguation. However, at the moment I do not believe the article would pass the Notability criteria, so it might get deleted fairly quickly. As a draft it is protected from deletion on notability grounds. The novel would need to get some substantial reviews or other media coverage, win an award, or be adapted for film or television, for example, to be safe. Alternatively, you could redirect "Sapphire the Dragon" to an article on the author if you have enough material there.
By the way, could you include something in the article to explain why it's a "science fiction" novel rather than fantasy (dragons being more typical of fantasy)? Is it set on another planet? Did the visitor come in a spaceship? ---- Robina Fox (talk) 03:40, 10 March 2017 (UTC)


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Hi Robina Fox, a GREAT BIGGGGG THANKYOU for all your work changing child lit book articles from [year] books to [year] children's books (i didn't realise i had so many kid book articles on my watchlistFace-smile.svg). Coolabahapple (talk) 09:05, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Literature?[edit]

Hey Robina What exactly is WikiProject Literature if you don't mind me asking? I am interested in joining it...

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Really I am not the best person to ask because I'm not specially involved in Projects at all and mostly Children's Literature. In Projects generally, members collaborate on articles related to the subject, discussing how to improve them. At least in theory. Some are not very active. You should have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Literature and see if they are doing anything at the moment you would be interested in. If you sign up as a member you'll get notifications on your Talk page from time to time. The project deals with literature in general, history, genres, movements, organizations, literary criticism. Various aspects of literature have their own projects, like wp:WikiProject Books, wp:WikiProject Novels, wp:WikiProject Shakespeare.
Then there are the more specialized Task Forces. You might be interested in the Rick Riordan Task Force, for example.
I hope this will give some idea. If you have any other questions, you should ask at the Teahouse. They are very helpful and experienced. Robina Fox (talk) 00:29, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

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