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Welcome to Wikipedia, Rod mcinnes! Thank you for your contributions. I am Marek69 and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Looks good[edit]

Kondinin article - please note that the bottom of the article has an alert of sorts - we dont use et al in citations per the WP:MOS.

Also if you are west oz based person - note that we have a set of enthusiastic editors at the WA group in perth - and other things to do with editing in WA in general...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Western_Australia - if you are elsewhere - at least you have a possible point of contact. User:JarrahTree 01:15, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

First step[edit]

When leaving a message, they go at the bottom of the previous messages, and you need to learn to WP:SIGN - well worth doing that User:JarrahTree 03:02, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

In fact the best is to actually go through the items in the first message above - I haven mislaid my good link for the et al business, hope to get back to you about that. Never be put off by a persons edit numbers, it is more whether they behave civilly on talk pages is always a good measure...

cheers User:JarrahTree 03:06, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

Cup-o-coffee-simple.svg Thanks for your work on the Cremorne Theatre. Do you have a particular interest in it or did the topic just catch your eye? Keep up the good work! Kerry (talk) 23:41, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

No I don't have an interest. I was following a link for John MacCallum, Skippy's creator, whose father managed the theatre. I found the site a bit frustrating in that the address, though accurate, can't be followed in a current street map, and the article ignores the existing Cremorne Theatre. I find I have a passion for improving the usability of random pages when I have free time, like today.

I understand entirely; with Wikipedia, one thing does seem to lead to another :-) Kerry (talk) 02:40, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Copy and pasting[edit]

We run "copy and paste" detection software on new edits. One of your edits appear to be infringing on someone else's copyright. See also Wikipedia:Copy-paste. We at Wikipedia usually require paraphrasing. If you own the copyright to this material please follow the directions at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials to grant license. LeadSongDog come howl! 18:52, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Rod! Although not stated, I am guessing this refers to your draft on James Ellis, which reads like something out of the Trove newspapers. If so, it is OK to use verbatim (if pre-1955) as it is in the public domain. However, you are supposed to acknowledge it by doing something like (below) the References section (after the references are dumped out). Note that the reference to the newspaper article here is just me using the "Cite" feature of Trove from that newspaper article (which is an easy way to do it, but it's fine to refer to it in other ways if you wish). I'll drop it in your draft to illustrate. Kerry (talk) 00:05, 1 September 2015 (UTC

Attribution[edit]

This article incorporates public domain material from "Coppin's Cremorne". The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957). Melbourne, Vic.: National Library of Australia. 8 April 1933. p. 6. Retrieved 1 September 2015. 

Copy and pasting Response[edit]

Kerry, I can't see what LeadSongDog meant either. The James Ellis text is copy and paste, but it is just a text dump in my sandbox which I am going to rewrite. I thought that it would be safe from deletion there. I did copy and paste some text in the main Cremorne Theatre article from a (cited) North Sydney flyer, which I thought would be public domain. Reading the guidelines, it perhaps isn't, so I'll rewrite that. Thanks for the pointers. Rod mcinnes (talk) 07:44, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Kerry, I've now added all the Trove citations correctly. Still working out how to make the other citations look standard.Rod mcinnes (talk) 10:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
I can help with advice on citations. Can you point me at an example of one that isn't "standard"? Kerry (talk) 21:04, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Any of the other weblinks. I know I'm supposed to use this format:
{{cite web
| last =
| first =
| authorlink =
| title =
| work =
| website =
| publisher =
| date =
| url =
| format =
| doi =
| accessdate = 
| archiveurl = 
| archivedate = }}
But it looks like hard work. My other problem is repeated citations. I tried editing the multiple citation type (a b c d) (eg. the theatre database), but just stuffed it up. I need to know how to define variables. Rod mcinnes (talk) 21:47, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Quick tutorial on citations[edit]

OK, it looks like you already know how to add a pre-formatted citation from Trove. (Let me know if that's not so).

Next, let's talk about non-Trove citations. Saying "it's hard work" suggest to me that you have not yet discovered the "Cite" on the toolbar. If you click it, the arrow to the left of the word Cite will become a downward pointing arrow and you will get a 2nd line of toolbar with "Templates" dropdown, "Named references", and "Error Check". If you look on the Templates dropdown, you will see four options: cite web, cite news, cite book, and cite journal. So when you want to create a citation, click your mouse at the spot in the article where you want the citation to appear (where you would otherwise have started typing <ref>...</ref>). If you select the citation type that best meets your needs, you will get a pop-up form for the commonly used information in that kind of citation. Just fill out the form with as many fields as you know and click Insert. Magically the horrible syntax will be written for you.

As a concrete example, if you wanted to cite the webpage http://www.qpac.com.au/explore_and_learn/qpac/venues/cremorne_theatre/ you would choose "cite web" from the drop down and then fill in these fields:

Then click Insert. What you will see added into the article is:

<ref name=qpac>{{cite web|title=Cremorne Theatre|url=http://www.qpac.com.au/explore_and_learn/qpac/venues/cremorne_theatre/|publisher= [[Queensland Performing Arts Centre]]|accessdate=2 September 2015}}</ref>

which will look like this as a citation:[1]

  1. ^ "Cremorne Theatre". Queensland Performing Arts Centre. Retrieved 2 September 2015. 

These forms make it much easier to create citations as you don't have to worry about the messy syntax.

Back to the name above. This is enabling the citation to be reused. So if you wanted to cite that same website at another point in your Wikipedia article, you click your mouse at the spot, click Cite on the toolbar to bring up the 2nd toolbar (no need to click it if that 2nd toolbar is visible), then click on the little clickboard symbol (with the green dot) to the right of "Named references". Now click on the dropdown list and you will see a list of citation names, one of which will be qpac. If you select that entry and then click Insert, what will appear in the article is:

<ref name=qpac/>

which is saying to reuse the citation named qpac. Here I am defining it[1] and now I am reusing it.[1]

  1. ^ a b "Cremorne Theatre". Queensland Performing Arts Centre. Retrieved 2 September 2015. 


Note citation reuse only works within an article. You will need to use copy and paste to reuse a citation in another article.

If you have an existing citation in your article that isn't already named (such as a Trove citation), just add the name into the <ref>...</ref> like so:

<ref name=qpac>...</ref>

Note that there is NO slash after qpac. This means "this is the definition of the reference known as qpac". Whereas saying:

<ref name=qpac/>

then I am saying "please reuse the reference known as qpac defined elsewhere in this article". It does not matter if the definition appears later in article or before, just so long as it appears somewhere (you get a red error message if it doesn't when you Save the page).

Does that help? If you email me at kerry.raymond@wikimedia.org.au I can send you a Powerpoint presentation that I use when I teach Wikipedia editing classes. It has lots of screenshots that you might find helpful. If you would like me to talk (as in talk-with-the-human-voice) you through any of this, please email me your phone number and best times for me to call and we can set up a time to talk via phone. Or we can skype or use Google Hangouts; whatever you are most comfortable with. Kerry (talk) 03:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Coloured syntax may help you[edit]

I find it easier to navigate the messy syntax of Wikipedia by using this little tool. Go to Preferences (top right of screen). Click on the tab called Gadgets. Scroll down to the Editing section. 3rd of that list is Syntax Highligher. Tick it and Save (bottom of page). This provides a more colourful editing experience which often makes it easier to understand what is going on with the syntax. If it doesn't help you, repeat the steps above and "untick" it and Save to make it the colouring go away. Kerry (talk) 03:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Try the Visual Editor[edit]

Finally, you might prefer to use the new editor tool called the Visual Editor. This gives you an experience which is more like Microsoft Word. To enable, go to Preferences, then to Beta, then scroll down to the Visual Editor, tick it, and the Save (bottom of page). Now instead of seeing just an "Edit" tab, you will see two tabs "Edit source" (which is the wikitext editor you are currently using) and "Edit" which is the new Visual Editor. You cannot do 100% of everything in the new Visual Editor (yet) but you can do many things and usually a lot easier. It also has the pop-up forms for citations (use Cite > Manual) but also has the Cite > Automatic which can (often) guess what you want to cite just by adding in a URL, then Generate, then Insert. The user manual is here (and it has lots of nice screenshots). I use a mixture of Edit and Edit Source depending on what I am trying to do; there are pros and cons to both so I pick and choose to use the best of both. Again, happy to talk-by-phone you through it if you need help to get started. Kerry (talk) 03:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Kerry - I've just snuck a look while on lunch. Yes, Trove citations are mastered in my opinion. For the rest: No, I didn't know about the cite button. Lots to read and I've got a busy few weeks, so I might work through this slowly. Rod mcinnes (talk) 03:32, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
No worries. Let me know if/when you need any help. Kerry (talk) 07:24, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: William Inglis and Sons Pty Ltd (September 9)[edit]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Reg Inglis (Bloodstock Agent) (September 10)[edit]

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You could just add the material to the existing Reg Inglis article. Kerry (talk) 12:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Guy Morrison (author and playwright) (September 14)[edit]

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