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DYK for Yıldırım Aktuna

Hi! Thanks a lot for your contribution. Cheers. CeeGee (talk) 02:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


Help!!!! I am going through Wikistress!!!! One reason was given in the last e-mail I sent you about COI and the other I revert an anon editor on grounds of vandalism no reason given and now one of the regular editors asked why I reverted the change in first place! Thanks-RFD (talk) 14:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for IXL Historical Museum

Updated DYK query On January 6, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article IXL Historical Museum, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:01, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

RE:Robert J. Parins

Hey Royalbroil, hope all is going well! I made another change to the intro sentence of the Robert J. Parins article. Looking at other articles, it seems to be common to say someone "was" something and then "is currently" something. Feel free to undo if you disagree, its not that big of a deal. Thanks. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

You know the MOS is so confusing nowadays, I don't know what's right or wrong half the time! And I saw your edit linking Parins to Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame and I figured I would give it a quick read. Thanks for the help with Ust-Shchuger. It was interesting to see that page come up on my talk page, because it was the second article and around the 10th edit I ever did on Wikipedia. And thanks, I try to keep up with things. When you put a lot of work into something, its difficult to stop keeping an eye on what you've done. And its good to see you're still here. On another note, I will be attending the Packers playoff game against Arizona! Hopefully Rodgers and the gang can pull out a victory for me! Hope all is well! Feel free to prod me if you ever need any help. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:51, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
As soon as I knew we were playing in AZ I bought some. I am going to try and get some pics. Hopefully a friend will let me borrow his new camera, then I will get some really good ones! If not, well I will at least get some "ok" photos! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 03:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Off Road racing

Thanks! I'm having trouble finding the birth date and birthplace of J.N. Roberts, so if you know where to find that I'd appreciate it. Also, the Off Road Hall of Fame site, lists him as winner of the 1967 Mexican 1000, but other articles say he was in the lead when he broke down. If you can verify, I'd appreciate it!Orsoni (talk) 12:42, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Your signature

I like your signature, with its separate links to your user and talk pages. Are you signing by typing the usual four tildes (if so, what creates those links?), or are you pasting it as wikitext, including date and time? I'd appreciate being let into your tricks. Schwede66 (talk) 02:44, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm happy to help! I do sign with the normal 4 tildes. The key is to set your preferences to not use the default signature. You click on the "My Preferences" link in the upper right. Then you scroll down to the "Signature" (so you stay on the User Profile tab). The key is to add a check mark to the "Sign my name exactly as shown" box. Then you add the HTML code or wikitext to do what you want for your name. I had classes on HTML, but you can copy my idea. You can find my signature by reading the code that is placed at my signature when you edit this section. A tip is 3 ' means bold. The date is automatically added at the end. So my code is '''<font color="#000000">[[User:Royalbroil|Royal]]</font><font color="#FFCC00">[[User talk:Royalbroil|broil]]</font>'''. While you're in the preferences, I highly recommend adding the a "Cite" button to your toolbar on the edit window - it's slick like butter! Click the "Gadgets" tab, and add a check mark to "refTools, adds a "cite" button to the editing toolbar for quick and easy addition of commonly used citation templates." Just place the insertion point where you want to add the citation, click the CITE button, and paste in the URL, article name, author, etc. Royalbroil 03:35, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Sweet. Will give this a go. That was a speedy reply - much appreciated.Schwede66 (talk) 03:56, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
It's a shame that the 'cite' tool does not work with the 'enhanced editing toolbar', because I really like that. But I've gone back to the old toolbar now, as I cite a lot (as one should!). Schwede66 23:15, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

King vs. Chain O' Lakes-King

I'd love to get your opinion on this issue at Talk:Chain O' Lakes-King, Wisconsin. Cheers, --BaronLarf 05:33, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK Cycle Friendly Awards

You've commented on possibly obtaining permission from the designer of the Cycle Friendly Awards trophies for the [[1]]. I'd just like to draw your attention to the fact that the designer has now commented on the DYK nomination, giving his permission to use the photo of the trophy. I hope that process works.Schwede66 (talk) 23:40, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

It will be up to whoever selects the image for the group. Remember that there are almost always more images than what are needed. My suggested images don't make it very often, like this one in the past week. Royalbroil 03:15, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Carl Renezeder

Updated DYK query On January 12, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Carl Renezeder, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Wizardman Operation Big Bear 06:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi there Royalbroil. I just wanted to say a (somewhat belated) thanks for your comment at my RfA. One of the nicest things about the process was seeing how many editors I respect, including those at DYK, have actually noticed and remembered my edits. I had actually been toying with the idea of reaquainting myself with current DYK guidelines enough to lend a hand when I have the time, so perhaps we'll have the chance to work together again as you say. Best wishes, Olaf Davis (talk) 22:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. That was one of the big surprises in my RFA too - seeing how many people that I really respected who had actually knew and me and respected what I had done. Congrats! Royalbroil 04:35, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

Information.svg Hello Royalbroil! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 3 of the articles that you created are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 2,707 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:

  1. Roger S. Penske, Jr. - Find sources: "Roger S. Penske, Jr." – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference
  2. Josh Brown (musician) - Find sources: "Josh Brown (musician)" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference
  3. Johnny Herrera - Find sources: "Johnny Herrera" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 06:11, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Wow, only three! I've seen a lot more for other people, and I've started many articles (hundreds?)! Herrera's is going to take some mop work to deal with the disambiguation problems with the cut and paste move in the past done by someone else. Royalbroil 06:21, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Face the Ace

Hello. I am here on behalf of my friend (known on Wikipedia as Face the Ace). He hardly ever uses Wikipedia and he tells me that you have accused him of sock puppetry. May I ask why? He only registered on Wikipedia to help me with some articles every once in a while. You mentioned that he would be blocked from Wikipedia if he continued to sock puppet. I ask that you please refrain from this because, to my knowledge, he is and has never sock puppeted. Thank you.--Johncoracing48 (talk) 02:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

If things are as you say, then your friend has nothing to worry about. It was a person hand-written note giving advice. I've seen it PLENTY of times in my years here - two people who keep voting the same way on the same things end up proven to be the same person trying to stack votes in their favor. I have not taken any steps besides providing a link to sockpuppetry on Face's talk page and I hope that it has already ended at this stage. I hope that any suspicions that I have had are wrong. Royalbroil 03:35, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Good. He was worried when he discovered your message that he called me immedeatly. He was worried that he was going to get banned. He did not want to have any contact with anyone on Wikipedia; he's afraid of getting his identity stolen. He's really paranoid about things like that. Anyway, thanks for clearing things up. I appreciate your concern and, looking back, it does appear as if we are the same person. He has only edited articles I have written or contributed to.

By the way, have you nominated Alan Kulwicki for FA yet? Please keep me updated on that and let me know if you need any help.--Johncoracing48 (talk) 04:28, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

There's no way that we can figure out someone's real life identity, so no one shouldn't have to worry about that. I'm waiting for David Pearson (NASCAR driver) to go through Good Article review before I'd think about nominating AK at FA. It'll probably be at least a few weeks. Royalbroil 04:42, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Row Crop

I am working on it; scroll to list four or fourth list on my userpage; it's a subpage of mine. I used to think it refered to tractors that were meant to be able to straddle rows and have narrow tires but it's actually any crop farmed in rows and any tractor that does the farming. Daniel Christensen (talk) 04:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Well row crop with no capitalization redirects to crop; try to find any good source on row crop tractors or add some original research to my subpage. Daniel Christensen (talk) 05:07, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for the offer. I will look and see if I can see a way to help. Nice idea anyway. .... please weigh in here if you fancy a counter offer. Victuallers (talk) 09:38, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Row crop picture

Can you think of a picture on Wikipedia where the words "row crop" can clearly be seen on a tractor; the Oliver picture is fairly low resolution; if I had thought about it I'd have teaken an up close shot of Row Crop on a tractor at the last Pageant of Steam that I go to every year. Daniel Christensen (talk) 17:44, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Damn here's a high reslolution one but Row Crop is blocked. File:3OliverTractors.jpg Daniel Christensen (talk) 17:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

How do you like the article so far? User:Daniel Christensen/Row crop. I think it'll be all right. More info on it than I thought; it's also more historically significant than I thought.

My idea is to have a section in the quite short crop article for row crop; and a link to "row crop tractor". Daniel Christensen (talk) 18:42, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Yea, it's looking good! How about making a hatnote with the {{for}} template linking crop, and then writing the article strictly about the type of tractor? I'm not at all surprised that this topic has LOTS of info! I expected that the topic had already been written about 4-5 years ago back when Wikipedia was the new kids on the block (around when I started). I looked - I have only a few more pictures of older tractors but none have the words "ROW CROP" visible. I could take a picture of the 9N showing the adjustable nature of the front wheels. On that tractor, you would take off the rear wheels and put the rim on inside out to cultivate corn rows. Royalbroil 05:07, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Waddell Wilson

Updated DYK query On January 21, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Waddell Wilson, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


Hi. The Lower Saxon house is certainly a combination of living quarters, animal stalls and storage barn, but it is quite a specific design and doesn't look like the photo in your article. In fact your housebarn looks more like the Middle German house which was also a combined dwelling. My suggestion is you continue with your article focussed on the American variant and link to other similar articles like those I've just mentioned under "See also". HTH. --Bermicourt (talk) 06:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi RB, I tried to have a quick look around but I could only find US refs and vague comments about the US ones coming from a European tradition (where else?). Housebarn seems to have a US meaning only - Ive never heard the word. So yes "we must do lunch" but I cant see how to help with the one you are working on. Cheers Victuallers (talk)

Thank you both for taking a look at it. I'll continue on alone. I think I'm just about done anyway. I wonder if I'm working on a broad term that both the Lower Saxon and Middle German house fall in. Bermicourt, is there an article on the German Wikipedia that I should link to that means the same thing (iw)? Vic, that 19th century slavery article is very interesting and I found several sources from major U.S. universities that talk about an American "delegation" which went to that convention. It's probably enough to write a decent section. Let me know if you want me to make a section, and what kind of priority I should put on it. Royalbroil 12:45, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Daniel E. Krause Stone Barn

Updated DYK query On January 24, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Daniel E. Krause Stone Barn, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

My congratulations on the DYK. Excellent photo of the barn-also excellent work on the Nascar drivers-DYK even though I am not into racing. Thanks-RFD (talk) 18:16, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Nyttend did most of the article and I had it nominated at DYK. Then I found an article on it in the Appleton Post Crescent and expanded it a fair bit plus tightened up some of the content with this new source. I didn't take the photo - I'm keeping the technique in mind for the future! Royalbroil 03:57, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Flickr help?

I've just discovered a nice Flickr collection of photos of Civil War historic sites — many of which are listed on the NRHP — at However, all are marked as all-rights-reserved. Could you help me by messaging the uploader and asking for a free license for at least one of the Corinth National Cemetery photos? Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 15:52, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll try, but I rarely ask someone who's been away from flickr that long. They almost never respond, and when they do they always confuse me by talking like I just asked the question when I had asked it about 9 months earlier. I asked on a different image. Royalbroil 01:34, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I'd sign up for a Flickr account, but I don't want to have to pay for something I'd never use except for leaving occasional comments for other people. Would you be willing to send a note to thisisbossi, who just uploaded some pictures today? I uploaded one of his photos as File:Reconstructed building in Old Bedford Village.jpg to use at Bedford Village Archeological Site, and it's soon going to be the image used at DYK; right now, it's in preparation area 2. Again, thanks! Nyttend (talk) 21:04, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Actually, flickr accounts are free. There is a pro option if you want to have over 200 images. I waited until I had 200 before I started paying! In any case, I'll take care of it. I urge you to get an account. I used the same name to make it easier, and I added comments to my profile about my involvement at Wikipedia because I was using it for 2 purposes. I'll send the thank yous. Cheers! Royalbroil 23:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I see; after talking with friends some time ago, I'd been under the impression that somehow you had to pay if you didn't want your account to be deleted after a short time, or something like that. I had thought the pro option was basically if you wanted to be able to do more with the images, not simply so that you could host more of them. Thanks for leaving the note; I'll see about creating the account soon. Nyttend (talk) 00:58, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Curious, is it possible to gain access to one's Yahoo email address (the one set up when you create a Flickr account) in any way other than logging into Flickr? I tried to send an email from my new Flickr email address to my "real" email address, but it won't let me because my real email address isn't a contact, and I can't find any other way to log into Yahoo email. Nyttend (talk) 16:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
As far as I know, the only way to access the flickr email is within flickr. And I don't think that you can send a message to anywhere else. You might be able to cut and paste the message into an email. I don't know if it would help you, but you could send the message to my flickr account and I could try to do something with it. I would use discretion of course. Royalbroil 01:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks; I'm not trying to email you, but just seeing if it would work in general. If it had worked as a normal email address, I suppose that I could have used it if I wanted an anonymous email address; all I have right now is my main email address (with which I emailed you over a year ago, when I was having that medical procedure done) and my college email address, which includes my name. Nyttend (talk) 00:49, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey Bud

Hey there RB .. sorry I've been so scarce lately .. just been so busy .. hope all is well with you, and hope to be back soon. All my best! — Ched :  ?  12:25, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm doing good - I hope that you are too! I've been more active lately with it being winter here and I've had a string of DYKs in the past month. Did you read the Signpost about the BLP boldness? Wow, that's quite a story with someone being so bold with speedy deleting BLPs without giving the rest of the community an ultimatum first. I'd call it reckless and disrespectful to unilaterally decide to not give WikiProjects a chance to fix their problem BLP articles. Royalbroil 13:15, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

UW-La Crosse alumni section

One of the editors took out the whole section of the UW-La Crosse alumni claiming it is not cited. There were only 4 redlinks but they had citations. I thought once you put a name in that is notable there would be no problems. The editor did leave the faculty section.Thanks-RFD (talk) 19:35, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I re-added the section and added citations. Cheers --BaronLarf 21:11, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Talkpage stalking is cool! Thanks, BaronLarf! Royalbroil 00:15, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Trivia contest

Like I said, let me know if you need any additional admin help with trivia-related vandalism. I'll be around and will watch the anons you warn to head off additional vandalism. Good luck! --BaronLarf 05:38, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, nothing yet. I hope that continues! Royalbroil 05:56, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Have fun! RFD (talk) 17:23, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Saturday has been going MUCH better - didn't get anywhere on Friday night. It's always fun even when we're doing poorly! Royalbroil 17:58, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
3 IP addresses have done 4 vandalisms so far, all probably related. IP address,, and One team with no ethics. Royalbroil 23:50, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
They probably view it as just another version of jamming.--BaronLarf 02:10, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Actually, the trivia masters had a serious talk about doing good for the world, and if it's on Wikipedia then you're vandalizing something easy that someone should be able to find elsewhere. I was happy about how they dealt with it and didn't sweep it under the rug. Royalbroil 02:35, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


Hi, would you be interested in helping me develop National Register of Historic Places listings in Scott County, Iowa as was suggested in my peer review? Thank you, CTJF83 chat 19:43, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Not for a few days, in the early to mid part of a 50 hour trivia contest. Royalbroil 19:44, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Sounds fun, keep me posted please. :) CTJF83 chat 19:57, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Actually I can't say too much - protecting real identity - and making enemies with having to enforce vandalism patrol during the contest. I don't want them to be able to get back at me by letting them get me in trouble at the contest. Royalbroil 20:07, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Wait, what? I didn't mean keep me posted on the contest.....LOL.... CTJF83 chat 20:13, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry about the misunderstanding. I'm in a marathon. Royalbroil 20:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Good Luck! CTJF83 chat 22:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I don't work in Iowa like Doncram thought. I do Wisconsin articles by adding many pictures. I haven't worked on any content. I have worked on some Good Articles on other topics. You need to flesh out content, some stats, very much to do to get it to featured. It's basically at the start level. No insult intended. At least featured lists aren't usually to hard to do. Royalbroil 02:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Ok, thanks, CTJF83 chat 05:56, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Wisconsin politician photos

Hey Royalbroil. I believe you more experience dealing with photos and how fair use on copyrighted images is dealt with these days. Am I right in saying that a photo like File:SenatorVinehout.jpg which has been plucked from a recent Wisconsin Blue Book does not comport with current fair I recall that we've had problems like this with Wisconsin government photos in the past. Thanks, --BaronLarf 21:27, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Fair use is pretty much something from the past - only if someone is dead or it's critical and impossible to recreate. I'd nom it for deletion. Royalbroil 21:35, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

photo Williams Bay, Wisconsin.

One of the photos in the Williams Bay, Wisconsin article needs to be trimmed a little it is blocking some of the wording. Many thans-RFD (talk) 17:29, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like a glitch with your resolution. It looks good to me in both Internet Explorer and Firefox. I don't know what could be done about it. Royalbroil 17:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Minnesota cuisine


Good news! I finally got my hands on photos of Cookie salad, Glorified rice, and Strawberry Delight. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:33, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Very nice job - I'm hungry and I just ate! My aunt with the Yooper husband didn't make Glorified rice this Christmas or else I would have taken that photograph. Royalbroil 00:29, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Mukwonago, Wisconsin

An editor has repeatedly been trying to add wikilinks to deleted articles at Mukwonago, Wisconsin, including one apparently about himself. I've reverted twice already. Could you take a look at it and weigh in on how you feel about the additions to the notable residents section if they are added again? Thanks, --BaronLarf 07:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I see no thread so I'll answer here. Well, it should be deleted if it's a red link, except in cases of very obvious notability like the Olympian from Mukwonago - that person will definitely eventually get an article by an Olympics fan. A case for notability for this individual could be made, but will that article be made by someone who doesn't have a conflict of interest? I doubt it. I suppose if Rod would make a nice article, free of self-promotion, written in a neutral language, with an encyclopedic tone, and get it to stick for a week, - then fine. It's tough but within the reach of a reputable author like him. I would be willing to help coach with the hope that this individual might go beyond self-promotion and write content about another notable topic not related to himself. I think with time that this individual will see that having a Wikipedia article isn't as great as first imagined. It gives the world a chance to vandalize your biography which wouldn't appeal to me. Royalbroil 13:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Whoops... forgot to check back here for a reply. The anon hasn't re-added it, so I guess it's not an issue. And I guess I didn't write a one-liner on that article talk page. But at least it's been a couple of days since I blocked myself...--BaronLarf 04:41, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Norm Nelson

I noticed that a new user added a redlink for Norm Nelson at List of people from Racine, Wisconsin. After a quick google search, it appears that the guy was an early NASCAR champion from Racine. Thought you might be interested, if you were looking for new articles to write. Ref 1, ref 2, ref 3. Cheers --BaronLarf 04:47, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I was going to correct you and say that he was a USAC Stock Car champ instead of NASCAR, but I see he did win a NASCAR race. USAC Stock Car was a big deal in the 1970s. Those drivers could come into NASCAR and compete for wins. I wrote articles on most of the other USAC champions from the 1970s and at least one was a DYK article. I'll write one for him, so you can leave the link on Racine's article. I didn't know he was a Wisconsinite or I would have done it sooner! The third turn is a NASCAR Wikia and definitely not a reliable source. The guy that founded it and has done much of the work used to help at WikiProject NASCAR. He's still old school and doesn't show sources. Royalbroil 05:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
This is why I didn't try to write the article myself; I've never even heard of the USAC ;^) Yeah, I could tell that wikia site isn't a RS, but I figured it could be used as a starting point to find RS's—googling the birthdate listed there for a newspaper article, that sort of thing. I'll add what I can. Thanks, --BaronLarf 06:10, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, I have plenty of solid sources. I usually end up finding the Third Turn's article and finding reliable sources for it. Fyi, USAC is the sanctioning body that sanctioned IndyCar races (like the Indy 500) for many decades. They had stock cars for a long time and their drivers were on par with NASCAR drivers until the mid to late 1970s. You're solidly in my wheelhouse with this topic and I'm very interested to write the article. You need not worry about me needing help to develop it. I'm sure the article should appear on the New Art Bot searchlist for Wisconsin once I add it. With DYK being very backed up, I'm sitting on articles in my sandboxes and waiting a bit for the number of submissions to decline. Royalbroil 06:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good. Happy editing!--BaronLarf 06:44, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


Excuse me Royalbroil,but can you see what all needs to be done to Jimmie Johnson because I am trying to improve the article.Thank You.Nascar1996 (talk) 04:39, 15 February 2010 (UTC)Ok Thank You.Would a race be a Mid or lower in importantance?If you want to see the article I am working on this is it - 2010 Auto Club 500.Nascar1996 (talk) 05:00, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I would go by how important the race will be in a few years from now. I would call all races Low importance except the Daytona 500. Royalbroil 05:42, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Excuse Me Royal Broil,but can you help me become a administrator on Wikipedia.Thank You.Nascar1996 (talk) 20:27, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, you're not even close to being ready. I say that with all due respect. To be an administrator, you need to wait until others feel you are ready. Are you expected to be very well rounded and need to be able to understand how almost everything works in here - like deletion, policies, guidelines. You are also expected to be versed in creating content at higher levels, including versed in citing sources. A person ready for adminship wouldn't need to ask questions like you did about importance of articles and if something real far away from Good Article status like Jimmie Johnson. Adminship is something that you earn in the long haul with lots of sweat. I got it long after I had given up on it ever happening. Royalbroil 01:42, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
O.K. Thanks,but now I just noticed that you dont have to be an admin to do everything like if you wanted to mess up everything you just log out and than just type what ever you want to,but to me that is mean so im not gonna do that.And my biggest ? is who cares about good articles most people get thier info from somewhere else because where people can edit WIKI*Nascar1996 talk
I hope that you don't log out and vandalize. That's a good way to guarantee that you'd never become an admin. Please read WP:GA to learn more about Good Articles. It's a way for someone to "certify" that the article is relatively well written using reliable sources. It's not extremely difficult like Featured Articles but it's pretty difficult for an average person to do. Having Good Article status does greatly set it apart from the overwhelming majority of the articles. They are a big deal. Big enough that most people who have spent the time to create one will display something on their userpage. Royalbroil 02:45, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

yea ok,i would not vandalise anything and my cousin said most of that.Nascar1996 (talk) 19:26, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Could you tell me how im doing on this article,the article is Jimmie Johnson.To preview the article click here.Nascar1996 (talk) 15:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

La Crosse Speedway

I like the article about the La Crosse Speeway. It was well written. There are 2 new articles that came up involving WP-Wisconsin: McFarlandLand atheme park and the Kipp Stoneman Experience. I googled both of them and check the McFarland Chamber of Commerce and nothing came up. Why do I think it is a hoax???Many thanks=RFD (talk) 17:38, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Clearly that ride exists. Oh wait... that's Kipp Stoneman's Experience not Kipp Stoneman Experience. So close.... ;^) --BaronLarf 18:11, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
You do need a sense of humor. Thanks-RFD (talk) 18:18, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hope you get DYK for the La Crosse Speedway=I was there once-Thanks-RFD (talk) 13:32, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK update

Are you available to do the DYK update at 6 pm UTC (that's five hours from now)? See WT:DYK#Next update. (Note that I'm sending this message to several admins.) Ucucha 12:46, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK advice

Hey, I've tried nominating an article to DYK for the first time: George Hampel (legislator), Template talk:Did you know#Articles created.2Fexpanded on February 19. (Orangemike created, I expanded). If you have any advice on how to go about the process, I'd be eager to hear it. Thanks! --BaronLarf 13:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Looks like you got it figured out! The reference only marginally supports the hook - it's about a closure meeting that didn't happen. I'm shocked that you got asked about the date of death! There is no one alive who's 125 years old! Royalbroil 04:13, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I eventually found that date of death. I also added two more references and slightly tweaked the wording so the hook has more support now. Thanks, --BaronLarf 11:03, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Jewish sex abuse cases

Could you please restore this page ? It would be quite easy to add additional content to what was already begun, by taking into account all that is already on the website, and trying to merge it into a single entry. For instance, there is recent material about Mordechai Elon that could be added in an objective way. ADM (talk) 17:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Sure - the following sentence was the entire content of the article: "New Article to be written". That's why it got deleted! In other words - you need to start from scratch. Please be careful to write something encyclopedic - this obviously is a contentious topic. Royalbroil 03:57, 20 February 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for the hometown tip. I'm just trying to follow the MOS exactly. I dunno, it seems like someone always upset on wp for some reason. Hutcher (talk) 02:26, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Over the Hill

You got to talk to Eddie Hill?! 8o You don't need my help. ;D Glad to have a look. In exchange, tho, will you watchlist this & this, & weigh in here? Thanx. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 05:03, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I love having connections. ;p You can paste here. (To repeat from the Auto project page, I wouldn't move it to mainspace with a copyvio tag outstanding; I mainly want to see if it's salvageable.) And see my comment here at your leisure. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 06:02 & 06:10, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
YesY Done I hope you find it useful! Royalbroil 06:20, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
YesY Done & YesY Done. It was! I do have some doubts about relying on websites as sources, & on a single one for most of it. I'm also a bit concerned about use of customizers' terms, & the general awkwardness of it. Still, it beats a redlink. Have a glance, see if you think it passes, & move into Hirohata Merc? Thanks again! Oh, one other thing: I've never been really clear if observation based on pictures & special knowledge/experience qualifies as original research, so some of the comments on the page may be borderline; any suggestions are welcome. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 07:38 & 07:43, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
To keep the specific minutia off the project page, I'm replying here. First, you're right about the notes; I'm terrible at it, so I'm going to let it go, & hope somebody who knows what they're doing can fix it. ;p I understand there are issues with retaining the page history, & when I posted that, I wasn't sure enough I could just move with no issues arising; if so, I'll handle it. The Google books is a good idea (it looks like good coverage, too); I can also fn the other mag apps, & the movie from CR (already sourced there); I'd've left off the movie ref, not knowing how important the Merc was to it (not likely equal "The Car" or Norm Grabowski's T-bucket, & Ala Kart made numerous apps in films & TV without attracting much attention at the time), plus the film's a redlink. I've also seen an article on the Merc, & I'm going thru my back issues to see if I can find it. (I really doubt that'll pan out anytime soon, tho. :/ ) Thanx again. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 16:17 & 16:59, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
It's very important for you to do the citations! If you don't, it's impossible for someone else to do it - they don't have page numbers since they don't have the document in the their hand! By not doing it - you prevent it from becoming a Good Article except if they delete the content that you created or have to search hard to find another source. Royalbroil 05:45, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Page numbers don't arise, in this instance; the bulk were website refs. Plus the p# were in the original cites. Never mind, tho, it came out OK. ;D (I've tried it before, see, & bungled it badly...) As for "good article", I'm happy for "article", myself; I'll leave serious improvement for people who know the ins & outs of it way better than me, & just keep them out of the pitfalls of really wrong info. As I think of it, tho, I used the Google books link you put up; should I have included it as the DeWitt source (which it was)? EZ to fix, if so. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 06:08 & 06:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

<--A question on pix. I found 2 on picasaweb here. Are these free to use? They're not ideal (the angle's a bit high, & the windshield's not correct), but better than nothing. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 02:38, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

First of all, the picture is non-commercial use only, which means it can't be used on Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. Second, it's a picture of a toy. And since the toy is someone's artistic work, you can't use the picture. So it's no for two reasons. Royalbroil 02:43, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I had a hunch not. Well, there's a reqphoto on the talk page, so... TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 05:57, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Wabeno (community), Wisconsin

I think you should create the article about Wabeno (community), Wisconsin in Forest County. I need to start an article on Soperton, Wisconsin which was the birthplace of Wayland Becker and Soperton is not that far from the unincorporated community of Wabeno, Wisconsin. Thanks-RFD (talk) 14:48, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

YesY Done I wish I was there to taste that water outside the Wabeno museum - it was as good as advertised! Royalbroil 05:34, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Winnebago, Wisconsin

The Winnebago Mental Health Institute has a mail address of 1300 South Drive, Winnebago, Wisconsin. I look at the Oshkosh ward map, The area where the Institute is is part of the city but there are sections that are not annex by the city in the area of Asylum Point. Since you lived in that part of the state you are in the better advantage to check it out. Thanks-RFD (talk) 12:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Please see my talk page more information-Thanks-RFD (talk) 19:25, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I hope the info about Winnebago, Wisconsin helps especially the zipcode. The problems with these towns and unincorporated communities is that you may have a section of a town along with an unincorporated community in the middle of a city or village that is not annex by the municipality and that gets confusing. Thanks-RFD (talk) 13:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I've added some info at Talk:Winnebago Mental Health Institute. --BaronLarf 14:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

NASCAR racetrack category help

In this nomination, I've proposed the name change I suggested the last time we dealt with the constantly-changing race name categories. An editor has asked for some of the new category names to contain a "the" before the racetrack name. It's not clear to me which ones need it (e.g., presumably yes to Music City Motorplex, presumably no to Watkins Glen International). Would you look at the nomination and adjust it accordingly? I'd appreciate that.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:45, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK for La Crosse Fairgrounds Speedway

Updated DYK query On February 27, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article La Crosse Fairgrounds Speedway, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations!RFD (talk) 00:27, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Bio-Blend Fuels-DYK

I came across an article on Bio-Blend Fuels in Manitowoc the article was given the DYK. Maybe that can be added on-DYK articles from Wisconsin-thanks-RFD (talk) 11:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

All you have to do is add it to WikiProject Wisconsin and the bot should add it on the project page. Royalbroil 13:10, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Took care of it. Thanks-RFD (talk) 13:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey you ...

Hi RB ... sorry I haven't been around ... but wanted to drop by and say hi .. "HI" ... lol. don't know about you - be we had one hell of a winter here in PA. Miss BS'ing with ya - hope you're keeping all the race stuff in good shape. Miss ya buddy, take care ... luv ya .,.. ched

Ched :  ?  05:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Awww, what a nice message! Thank you! I'm doing good - been an average winter here. I heard that parts of PA got lots of snow and fun weather. I caught ice races at 5 tracks this winter; they're now done and temps are rising. I'm doing my best on the racing articles - even adding some. LaCrosse Fairgrounds Speedway hit DYK and I'm working on what I hope to made a triple DYK set for my 100th DYK. Hopefully enough content on the USAC Stock Cars will let it work. I was inspired by a USAC Stock Car champ (Norm Nelson) from Wisconsin who won a single NASCAR race at Las Vegas Park Speedway's only NASCAR race - now the site of the Las Vegas Hilton.
I hope that you are doing good too! I understand how you need to do the computer thing now and I'm glad you're making the right decision! Cya around! Royalbroil 12:47, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


After this edit (which edit summary may have been ill-advised), Vegavairbob has messaged me suggesting quid quo pro applies, & threatening (if that's not too strong a word) reversion if I don't leave his edits alone. Let me be clear. I don't care a whit who put in the ads, nor if he deleted mine. (I'm used to that...) Neither am I terribly impressed how long they've stayed in. As I told him, I found it resembled a GM puff piece, & prefer it all be integrated; the single section, IMO, attracts too much GM advertising in one place. (I'd also wonder if the ads should be used at all, but...) As for the other content, the quotes added nothing of substance that couldn't have been summarized rather than quoted, if it needed to stay in at all, IMO. I'd add also Vegavairbob has attracted a reputation for apparent ownership of the page in question. Your attention to the matter is requested, before this goes edit war. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 14:46, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Unincorporated communities in Wisconsin

Good morning-there should not be any problems. Pickett and Waukau in Winnebago County are already done. There is a website Hometownlocator that comes in handy in addition to the Wisconsin Historical Society. It will be gradual in the next few weeks. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 12:12, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

A quick note-you may want to see the talk page at Outagamie County article. I thought Wikipedia serves as a gazetteer. Thanks-RFD (talk) 18:41, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


Thelmadatter's suggestion at t:TDYK#Housebarn is good. In Friesland there are stolp/stelp farmhouses (Square with a pyramidal roof, incorporating house and barn), kop-hals-rompboerderij (house and barn linked by a small narrow annexe), kop-rompboerderij (house and barn directly joined). In Groningen there is the Oldambt farmhouse, which also incorporates a barn, and the Los hoes farmhouse, where the farmer and livestock shared the same space. In Drenthe some farmhouses also incorporated a barn. In Gelderland there is the T-huis, with the farmhouse forming the cross of the T and the barn forming the stem. In Brabant, the farmhouse and barn was all one long building, with the farmhouse at one end. Mjroots (talk) 07:27, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you have access to the Michelin Green Guide to the Netherlands? My 1995 copy has a couple of pages on the various types of Dutch farmhouses. Mjroots (talk) 13:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


Thank you for checking Kennaquhair (horse). I have changed the mentioned issues.Cgoodwin (talk) 05:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wisconsin State Firefighters Memorial

Updated DYK query On March 15, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wisconsin State Firefighters Memorial, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Stub elimination drive at WP:USRD

The key to my comments on Pzoxicuvybtmrn's talk page was intent. Too many stub articles are created and then left. WP:USRD has a drive this year to halve the number of stubs from 5934 at the start of the year to 2967 at the end of the year. The project is currently at 5618 stubs. It's an ambitious goal, but attainable if new and older articles can be expanded past the stub stage, which as I outlined is easy. RD sections and junction lists are easy to create, making start-class articles. Imzadi1979 (talk) 01:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
At least they're easy for you and me to create! I understand your point and thanks for the comments/explanation! Royalbroil 01:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


Nice photos of Gooseville, Wisconsin. I started the article. If you are in Sheboygan you may want to take photos of the Sheboygan Hmong Memorial which in Sheboygan. I came across that article lately. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 11:20, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Lutze Housebarn

I added a section about the Lutze Housebarn to the town of Newton article in Manitowoc County, Wisconsin. I do not know if you have any photos? Many thanks-RFD (talk) 12:49, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I've never been there. I was hoping to drive to Manitowoc to take a picture of it before I posted the housebarn article, but it didn't happen. I was going to use the picture in the article.
The housebarn article is scheduled to appear on the main page on Tuesday at 1:00pm our time, so check it out! It will be my 97th DYK and #98 (Dale Armstrong) is in the suggestions area. I'm done with most of the work on the 3 articles that I'm making for my 100th - it will be a triple hook. Thanks to BaronLarf's suggestion, Norm Nelson from Racine will be part of the trio. Royalbroil 00:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Housebarn

Updated DYK query On March 16, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Housebarn, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations-very interesting-RFD (talk) 12:50, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Freistadt is part of Mequon not a unincorporated community

I had to revert some editors about the article on Freistadt; Freistadt is a neighborhood of Mequon not an unincorporated community. I would be open to having the Freistadt be brought back as a separate article if there is some historical/cultural notability and as long as Freistadt is not consider a unincorporated community which it is not. Thanks-RFD (talk) 12:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Dale Armstrong

Updated DYK query On March 17, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dale Armstrong, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:01, 17 March 2010 (UTC)


Since it appears that you are good at uploading photos from Flickr I would like to ask you if you would upload this [2] to Wikipedia because there is no known photo with the spoiler on Sprint Cup Series Car of Tomorrow. --Nascar1996 23:40, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

That image is copyrighted and cannot be uploaded. Check out the lower right corner - it says "All Rights Reserved". We would have to find an image with Creative Commons before we can upload. The only Creative Commons criteria allowed are only Attribution and ShareAlike - so images with Non Commericial or No Derivatives are not allowed either. You can find out which criteria are used on a Creative Commons image by clicking on the Creative Commons license wording and another window opens telling you which of these 4 criteria are being used. Here's an image that I just approved for Commons that has only the Attribution criteria and my images all use Attribution and ShareAlike. Royalbroil 00:02, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I was only at Daytona for the Rolex 24, nothing NASCAR related, so no photos. The359 (Talk) 00:41, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
So on the Image that you showed me the right have to be some rights reserved? --Nascar1996 02:40, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I have a photo that I would like you to see if everything is appropriate.If not please recommend deletion of the image (unless it is able to be fixed). Thank You. --Nascar1996 03:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
This image is a awesome photo of Bristol Motor Speedway and I would like you to review it to see if it can be uploaded to Wikipedia. Thank You. --Nascar1996 03:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Great questions! I'm excited that you're asking me! The first photo is not suitable for Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia because it used No Derivatives and Non-Commercial - so I'll have to delete it. I don't make the rules. I'm surprised that a bot didn't review - find problems - and get it deleted. On that second image, it can't be uploaded for 2 reasons. First it's Non-Commercial so it can't be uploaded. Second, the photo has a watermark that says that took the picture, which means it's a copyright violation. That might not be entirely true since Bristol Motor Speedway might have rights to it. This is a rare instance. When there's a website watermark in the corner, 99% of the time it's some person who uploaded a photo that they stole from some website and uploaded to flickr. Then it couldn't be used. Royalbroil 03:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Thank You for helping me. The information was very helpful. --Nascar1996 04:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Welcome reply

I don't think I am doing this the right way, but thank you for your welcome and I would love the join the project you mentioned. MMACCCEI —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmaccceo (talkcontribs) 17:51, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

No big deal. You just add a section heading by adding 2 equal signs to start and end the section title. Then you put the heading in between. Also, you sign by adding the ~ symbol 4 times. At any rate, you can join WikiProject Wisconsin by clicking here and adding your name to the list of members. You can announce on your user page (User:Mmaccceo) that you're a member by adding {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Wisconsin/Userbox}} . Feel free to copy anything that you find on anyone's userpage if you find it useful. Wikipedia is built on using other people's good ideas and methods. Royalbroil 03:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Please Help

If you have a lot of time would you please help me complete this article. I don't have a lot of time because of school, but I will try my best to help.(On the section of Race Summary you should go to 2010 Food City 500 Race Summary; and to complete the section Results you need to go to Unofficial Results.) Thank You. --Nascar1996 01:42, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't do them and I've never done them. I'm fine with other people doing them but I don't spend the time. I'd rather let someone find the race results somewhere else. Except if it was a all-time famous race like I did with a few of the major Daytona 500s and the 1992 season finale at Atlanta which was Petty's last, Gordon's first, and many drivers competed for the championship which was won by one of my favorites Alan Kulwicki. Sorry! Royalbroil 03:18, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Its ok; I will finish it sooner or later. --Nascar1996 23:05, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Would you see what rating 2010 Food City 500 has now after most of it is complete. --Nascar1996 22:57, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
I would assess as C-Class just short of B class. The big problem is the missing inline citations for the content. Lots of sentences without citation. Plus the results tables need sources - you just need to do it on the first line if the entire table comes from a single source. The qualifying results would be helpful - a separate table or add to the results table. The writing is up to B level and not far away from Good Article level! I copyedited most of the prose in the article at the B-class level. VERY WELL DONE! I'm very impressed that you did something this great! Royalbroil 00:38, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank You, I will add the rest of the information. --Nascar1996 00:51, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
I added references and made the table sortable so you would just have to push the icon beside starting pos to get the line up. --Nascar1996 01:15, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I get what you were trying to do with the lap by lap reference. You're supposed to do at least one per paragraph, so I added it at the end of each paragraph like I commonly see. Check out the article's history to see how I used a named reference so that I didn't have to repeat the reference each time [3]. You just pick a different name for each reference. That's how you're supposed to do when you use a reference multiple times. You keep adding that the language is English - that information is only used in foreign languages. I reassessed as B class. Let me know if you want to nominate it for Good Article and I'll do a more thorough grammar review. You're in the ballpark for Good Article on this one! Constructive criticism is that the sentences in the race summary are a bit choppy and (especially) monotonous so they should be varied more. Another comment is that there should be more references used to get a broader perspective from different media outlets. Royalbroil 02:21, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── First, I don't want to nominate it for good article quite yet then may I ask what does monotonous mean? Finaly what do you mean by different media outlet? Different url's? Or add books or magazines? Thank You. --Nascar1996 23:39, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

I won't nominate it for Good Article - that's up to you as the author. By monotonous, I mean that the prose isn't varied enough. There's a pattern to much of it. By different media outlets - I mean that you should get someone else's interpretation of the race. Find some race reports/descriptions by ESPN, Sporting News, Sports Illustrated, some big newspapers like NY Times/Miami Herald/Charlotte, Yahoo Sports, etc. and see what they emphasize. Right now it's almost all official NASCAR. I would expect a typical Good Article draw from at least 10 different sources. Royalbroil 00:09, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Ok, if you want to nominate the article you can because I'm not too sure about the concept. Thats not all though I would like the article to be good and that is the reason I edit it; to help Wikipedia's status as a world-wide website. I also said it is up to because you have been on Wikipedia longer. I agree with whatever you choose to do. Thank You. --Nascar1996 00:27, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
First, I won't nominate it. You will need to do nominating. Second, it's not ready anyhow. You've done a lot of excellent work on it but not enough. Royalbroil 00:30, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay I will work on it. On the race reports to you mean like Tony Stewart's or something else? Would the race reports be a reference also; where would I need to put it? Thanks for helping me create my first good article. --Nascar1996 00:37, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh, good question. I didn't mean a race report like you found for Tony Stewart. That's more like a blog which shouldn't be used except in rare cases to quote something specific. I mean articles like race reports found at places like Yahoo! Sports, ESPN specifically this, etc. Royalbroil 00:59, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Can they just be a video, and they would be marked as a reference right? If they are supposed to be references where would I put them? --Nascar1996 01:03, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I suppose they could be a video, but that's rare. It should be a major well-known source. You put the source after each sentence that uses them. You caught the name trick for multiple uses, right? Royalbroil 01:12, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I don't know; I have never heard of that name for me anyway. --Nascar1996 01:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Would this be a good report to put on the article; I'm not sure. --Nascar1996 01:23, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Perfect! Royalbroil 01:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Well I have five different places for references (, YahooSports, Bostonherald,, and Fox --Nascar1996 01:52, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
How is the article doing now? --Nascar1996 02:10, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
It's good that you added more inline citations to the article. Keep going in that direction. Having a single source for an entire paragraph, especially paragraph after paragraph, is very bad. Read these articles and use them to expand existing content and fill out the article better. Another think that I like to have is 1 or 2 quotes from a major reputable source like these to describe the key events. Right now you took the lap summary and wrote it out in words. While that's okay for an average article - you are going for high end. Good Articles take A LOT more work and the end result shows. I've spent weeks of weeknights on each of my Good Articles. The summary articles should be used to fill out the key events. Another key thing is to clean up the grammar. I see numerous grammar (especially missing commas) problems. Once you're done with all of this and you think the article is A-1 perfect, then have some friends who are really good at grammar look it over. Real life friends and/or family are real good if they're willing. It's best to have a mix of people who like and don't understand the sport. The ones that don't understand will question you about terms that you and I will easily understand but need better explanation. A real good person to review this would be your English teacher (I assume that you're a student in high school) - and I bet they would be delighted to see that their student is taking an interest in something like this. My sister is a music teacher and I know she'd be very happy to help someone who was doing something like this in music. I can be one of these "peer reviewers". I have another Wikipedia friend who's an admin that I helped show how to do a good article. While he's been too busy in real life to help here, he does check from time to time. I'd probably be able to convince him to take a look after the comma and prose issues are improved. When I do a Good Article, I just keep reading the article over and over (maybe 5 times) until I'm satisfied that there are no problems. I problem you will be excited to put that green plus sign on your userpage once you're done! Royalbroil 03:00, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
You write a lot RoyalBroil (comment). It will be hard to get this article to GA status where every week (most of the time) there is another race to create on Wikipedia, and commas is one issue that I'm just not good at. I also can't show my English teacher because we do A LOT of work in there. Furthermore, my family is very interested in NASCAR (thats how I became a fan), but thank you for telling me how to get the article to B-class. --Nascar1996 19:19, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
The article now has eight different media outlets (including newspapers), and I have asked a user for his help to copy edit, some grammer, etc. --Nascar1996 04:38, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Excellent choice for a helper - we've worked together before! Knowing people to ask for help, and especially helping back, are the ways that you get ahead in here! I'll thinking about putting Happy Hour (NASCAR) on my To Do list if I can find more content that just a dictionary definition. Another minor thing, when you find something on Fox Sports' website, then you should list Fox Sports as the author - not There is a bunch of that happening in the references section. Royalbroil 11:37, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Okay I will change those author names, and I will give you a hint Happy Hour is the final practice right before a race for the Sprint Cup Series. --Nascar1996 13:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

GT1 at Road America
I kinda knew what Happy Hour is. I'm old school - I knew what it was before it got named - I go back to Bobby Allison's heyday in the 1980s to 1990s. That's why I usually work on older articles. Unfortunately I'm not into today's NASCAR as much with all of the politically correctness and perfectly manicured racing surfaces. I miss the Darlington of old where the tires went away after 10 laps. Sounds good. I'm a big road course and short track fan - looking forward to catching the Nationwide cars in person at Road America! I watch stock cars race there at the SCCA National Championship Runoffs (pictured) and think the Nationwide cars will be even better. Royalbroil 13:31, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Yea, I believe the Nationwide race at Road America would be fantastic, my father is an old race fan of the king while I'm a current fan of Jimmie Johnson. There isn't a whole lot of other racing that I like such as F1 or dirtbikes or indy car. I'm just a huge NASCAR Sprint Cup Series fan. --Nascar1996 13:37, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── If you would Royalbroil, would you give me a list about what needs done to Talladega Superspeedway on my talk page or its talkpage? Thank You. One more thing what did you mean by trick ? --Nascar1996 23:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't know where to start. I don't usually work on track articles, mainly biographies. The huge glaring problem is that there are very few references. I don't know what type of content should be in a good article about a racetrack. Royalbroil 03:56, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay thats what I thought was wrong with the article, too. I have been rewriting the sentenes on the article, and I have added some references. Again, what did you mean by You caught the name trick for multiple uses, right? Thnak You. --Nascar1996 13:38, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
The article 2010 Food City 500 now has ten different media outlets and twenty references. --Nascar1996 14:04, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I would loke to nominate the article now. --Nascar1996 14:08, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I see that the article has seen significant work, including unsolicited work from some of my wiki-friends. Very cool and thank you to my talk page stalkers! I don't have time to look at it now, but it looks like a serious review is needed from me.
About the naming trick: I was talking about how you can create a reference once for a source and then keep reusing it by adding to the <ref> with name="UniqueName". You define it once (doesn't have to be first) by doing the whole ref like usual. After that you just type in <ref name="UniqueName" />. You need to use a different set of letters/numbers for each reference and you add it where the "word" UniqueName is. I didn't explain everything, you should read about it here. Royalbroil 23:24, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay, for one I didn't know that it meant that, and I understand how to do that now. Thanks.--Nascar1996 23:29, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── There's another article similar to 2010 Food City 500 that I would like you to look at the grammer and spelling when you have time. Hopefully after I finish the article it can be a Good Article nominee. --Nascar1996 01:44, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Would this one work on the article? --Nascar1996 13:33, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
If the table on 2010 Goody's Fast Pain Relief 500 was finished what rating would you give it? --Nascar1996 19:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
It passed! Thank You for all of your help to make this article a GOOD ARTICLE. Now I will try to get 2010 Kobalt Tools 500 or 2010 Goody's Fast Pain Relief 500 to that level. Cheers! --Nascar1996 02:23, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome and congrats! Let me know if you want a peer review before nominating any of these articles. Please request it in a new section on my talk page. I'm shocked that you were able to get a review so fast - I've always had to wait at least a month. GREAT JOB! Royalbroil 03:47, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Okay, if I request for your help it will be in a new section. --Nascar1996 23:07, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

NRHP pix

Nice work on Outagamie County! congrats. Smallbones (talk) 04:37, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! It was a great day, I got to learn how to use a GPS which helped immensely, and I was fortunate to find everything! I've tried many other counties just to find that 1 or 2 were demolished, that the description was too vague, or that the addressing system had changed. I was lucky to find the 2 images in Greenville considering their addressing had changed. Fortunately there was a real faint paint traces for the former state bank and I could figure out a hotel/saloon a few houses away. It felt good to succeed after numerous close calls. Royalbroil 04:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Norm Nelson, USAC Stock Car, Las Vegas Park Speedway

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April Fools DYK


Last year on the 28th of March, you created a bunch of tentative queues for April fools. I was wondering if you would be able to do this again. I have been trying to keep the ball rolling on the DYK's, but i have never built a queue before. There are significantly less articles nominated this year, which may be a good thing. Thanks for any help --Found5dollar (talk) 15:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Would you be willing to archive the four main pages for today again? Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:10, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

You're talking about the April Fool's queues for the archives. I should be able archive the 1st, 2nd, and 4th, but not the 3rd. I'll be at work the entire time that queue is active. I'm hoping that others will be willing to do some or all of these. Royalbroil 03:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Cruse

How did this get DYK when it's over a year hold and only had minor expansion recently (only a few hundred k)? RlevseTalk 10:02, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

For April Fool's Day, we adjust the rules a bit and look at new articles from the past year. Since it was started on April 17, 2009, it is less than one year old and eligible for DYK on this one special day. We've used that bent rule since April Fool's Day started several years ago. Royalbroil 11:19, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Ah, that his name is close to the actor's name didn't hurt did it ;-) OK. RlevseTalk 12:58, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

BMP files

All bmp files should be converted to PNGs actually. So there is no need to move them, just to convert them. I'll try to get Earwig to fix his bot to take this into account. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 12:15, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I wondered if they should be converted to PNG, but I thought it was best to at least do something about them instead of having them labeled wrong. Thanks for following up and taking care of it. Royalbroil 21:58, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

April Fools DYK Rules

hi, Since you are so active in the DYK section of April fools over the past few years, i thought i would let you knwo i tried my hand at writing out all the rules that have evolved over the years. I placed my idea here and hope to get your input. Hopefully we can dodge the little rules confusion we had this year. I look forward to your comments!--Found5dollar (talk) 01:45, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

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Barnstar thank you

Thank you for awarding me the Teamwork Barnstar. I greatly appreciate it, especially considering how we met under very unfortunate circumstances. I rarely get wound up tight like I was then. I don't understand why Halifax Town Hall didn't make the cut - it had brilliant hook that should have made sense internationally! The last two years everyone kept telling me that I was "in charge" of April Fool's Day DYKs. I just don't have the time to be as involved in Wikipedia like I was because I work full-time now. I see no shortage of articles to work on; I see plenty of topics in real life. Cheers! Royalbroil 11:57, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. No worries.--Storye book (talk) 12:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Norm Nelson

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DYK for USAC Stock Car

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DYK for Las Vegas Park Speedway

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My computer went down for a week some virus-I was do for a Wikibreak although it was involuntary. I like this years April Fools Day- Many thanks-RFD (talk) 20:54, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't as involved with April Fool's this year but I did a fair bit. I'm glad to see that you're back. I just reformat my hard drive when they pop up instead of dealing with a nasty one. It's good to periodically redo everything to clean out all the junk that Windows does to your computer anyhow. Did you see that I made my 100th DYK and it was Norm Nelson from Racine in a triple hook? Thinks have been rolling here - I'm especially excited to see racing season starting with a preseason special at Seymour this Saturday. Royalbroil 02:17, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


When ever your up to a challlenge I would like you to make a peer review on the article 2010 Goody's Fast Pain Relief 500. I think the only problem is with the Race Summary section. Thanks. --Nascar1996 00:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank You for starting the peer review of the article. Soon the article will be able to be nominated for good article status --Nascar1996 15:15, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
I have finished your first peer review. --Nascar1996 15:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I haven't had time for it yet. I really needed to check my watchlist this morning - I couldn't leave it be for three days. There was some vandalism too. Royalbroil 21:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Okay do you believe I should nominate the article now? --Nascar1996 23:10, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm not done yet but there isn't much left to review. Since it usually takes a month for the process, I'd say go for it. I don't understand how you got a review so fast with the last one.
I saw the beginning of tonight's race. They announced the color guard and who performed the national anthem. For future reference, you can use the race coverage as a reliable source. The template to use for citing it is {{Cite episode}}. Royalbroil 23:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks that seems like it will help me big time. I will also nominate it. --Nascar1996 00:46, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Are you finished with the peer review on 2010 Goody's Fast Pain Relief 500 yet? --Nascar1996 20:16, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

No, I'm not done with the review. You didn't finish up the points on the review yet (that's not affecting me, just saying). Royalbroil 02:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm done with the review now. Royalbroil 03:14, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

well done

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Who is it who came roaring around the last of one hundred bends to get this badge? To our knowledge you have twice stopped off in the pits (but on both occasions it was on April 1st). It seems to me that you are too helpful, level headed and contribute much too well and often. However this isn't against the wiki rules yet. Well done. Victuallers (talk) 17:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Wisconsin unincorporated communities

Many thanks for the comment-I thought you would do a better job with the articles since you are more familiar with the area then I am. I identified the towns where the communities were located, etc. and put them in the disamg pages. I was in Sinsinawa, Benton, New Diggings, Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin this past weekend my parish pilgrimage the Year of the Priest. Hope you are well-RFD (talk) 12:50, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

PS I am going through a mild case of Wiki burnt out. I have been reverting lots of vandalism lately. There are articles I should start especially Roman Catholic bishops, but I haven't yet-RFD (talk) 14:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Take your time, of course, I know how vandalism can burn out! The driftless area in SW Wisconsin is one of my favorite areas in all of the 20 states that I've been to. I'm sooo happy that I final got all images uploaded from my hard drive to Commons - Commonist really helped me out. I usually have trouble finding out the towns that the communities are in. Royalbroil 01:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
I made improvement to various articles related to Fr. Mazzuchelli in Lafayette County and also not related to him in Lafayette County. It was enjoyable making changes to articles of places I visited this past weekend. Thanks-RFD (talk) 11:40, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Calvary, Wisconsin

You may want to start an article about Calvary, Wisconsin, which part of the Holyland region in Wisconsin. I am not sure of any other unincorporated community that is in the Holyland region whose articles need to be started. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 17:15, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Yea, thanks, I know. I'll do it as soon as I get a picture. Royalbroil 02:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Wiki burnout

My Wiki burnout ended for the time being. At the recent deaths section there were three Roman Catholic bishops that needed stubs. Also there were two acting governors of Montana Territory that needed stubs. One of them Wiley Scribner also served in the Wisconsin State Assembly. Hope you are well-RFD (talk) 14:02, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad to see that you're back. I'd be here if I had more time - I'm happy to do what I can with limited time. Royalbroil 02:40, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

NASCAR Sprint All-Star Race XXVI

If you would, I need your opinion if the race format and qualified drivers should be in this article. Thanks. --Nascar1996 01:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

I read it - it looks exactly like it should. It has a special format and qualifying scheme so they need to be listed. Great job - now it needs reliable sources for the content. Royalbroil 02:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
I didn't place the content on there; also I may need some-one else to do the article be I will be away watching the race. --Nascar1996 19:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
I hope that you have a camera and are willing to allow a few photos to be used here. They add a lot to the race report. I suggest taking every photo that you want before dusk hits because then even my great camera won't do it with our without the telephoto lens. The main thing is have a great time! Royalbroil 23:49, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, but I dont have that type of Camera, and sometimes my camera works good in the dark, while other times it dont. I will, though. Thanks, too. --Nascar1996 23:52, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
I finaly found great NASCAR pictures with Some Rights Reserved without the non-commercial,too. They are located here. --Nascar1996 20:43, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Yep, all of them are fine to upload. I don't know which ones would be helpful. Were you planning to look them over and do the uploading. Royalbroil 05:08, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yes, I was. I believe they could be helpful to show what the cars look like. The pictures about the speedway could be helpful by showing viewers what the track looks like. --Nascar1996 12:53, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely, showing what the cars and tracks look like is critical. I've uploaded hundreds of pictures, maybe thousands, going back into at least the 1970s - most are ones that others took and posted on Flickr. Please upload to Commons so that the other Wikipedias can use them - they certainly have been using them especially the German Wikipedia. There are categories for NASCAR cars and NASCAR circuits, so please add them there. I always use a tool to upload the flickr pictures - really fast, it takes car of the weird license tagging issues, and it's very quick. Thanks for doing this! Royalbroil 12:42, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I uploaded the photos to Commons to begin with. If you would like to see which photos I have uploaded, you can go to my user page or my user page in Commons. Also, I will add the categorys to them as well. --Nascar1996 14:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Could you do a peer review on 2010 Subway Fresh Fit 600? Thanks --Nascar1996 17:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Nevermind. --Nascar1996 17:33, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't have the time - my plate is too full and others keep making it fuller. I have a great prospect for an AWESOME bunch of pictures - claims he was the first official NASCAR photographer in the mid 1990s and the pictures look to be exactly that! That's likely to take a long time just to look through 200 images - but there are great pictures of Kenny Irwin and Harry Gant, Jeff Gordon with his Cup trophy, Earnhardt... I did review the categories in Commons and added some. You did a great job of categorizing. Royalbroil 02:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I believe I am getting better at editing because I now have 4 GA's, 6 B's, and 2 DYK's! --Nascar1996 21:31, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Do you know any other way I coould rewrite the race summary on races because five of them just got delisted because of a sock and prose. Right know it is "On lap x" s passed z, etc.

Commons image help

I've encountered an unusual situation about which I'd appreciate help. User:Bluedisk uploaded some images to en:wp in 2008 under cc-by-sa-3.0 and the GFDL, and s/he has recently decided to revoke those licenses (example). Because at least the CC can't be revoked, I've declined the speedies and left a notice at his/her talk. I'd like to move these images to Commons; however, at least one of them is at Flickr — it's obviously copied from the Commons image, since the Flickr image was uploaded in 2010 and the image here was uploaded in 2008. Since moving the image to Commons would hide the fact that the image was uploaded here before it was on Flickr, is there anything to could be added to the image description once it's on Commons that would be sufficient to prevent it from deletion as a copyvio? Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 03:34, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

I tested on this image by uploading it to Commons to make sure that I was right. The CommonsHelper tool on the media transfer automatically inserts the date of the original upload. So there shouldn't be an issue. Even if there were, Commons could have an admin on the English Wikipedia verify the original upload date on a deleted image. So please move them to Commons at will! I like how the CommonsHelper tool has a link for admins on the English Wikipedia like us so that we can delete the original image right away - makes it very slick. You're right, the licensing can't be revoked once it's here - the point is very clear on the upload screens. Royalbroil 03:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! I've never used CommonsHelper, and I didn't know whether that would entirely be trusted in cases such as this. Would you be willing to upload the remaining images? I really don't know how much information is needed when transferring an image to Commons, so I virtually never participate in it. Nyttend (talk) 04:15, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
It's very easy, how about you give it a try? The bot does all of the work. All that you need/should do is add the categories. I guarantee that you'll find it far easier that many things you've done here on the English Wikipedia. If you'd rather not do it, what list of files would you like me to do? All of Bluedisk's images here? Royalbroil 04:26, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
I see that there's an "unknown issue" with CommonsHelper right now; I'd rather not try to learn something that might not be working properly at the moment. Some of Bluedisk's images are PD-USGov or from other online PD sources; could you just get Bluedisk's self-created images? I can find 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, and 18. Thanks so much! Nyttend (talk) 15:54, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I went ahead and tried Commonshelper to upload File:Dr. Henderson's House Marysville Ohio.jpg. However, I couldn't find the F8 deletion link; where's that? Thanks again. Nyttend (talk) 02:59, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
You need to use add a checkmark to the option "Directly upload file (using commons user name 'File Upload Bot (Magnus Manske)')" in the TUSC section. The bot will make the move, which you need to check and fix the categories. I always "Edit the description page". At the bottom you can Add {{NowCommons}} or do what I was suggesting - "delete the original image straight away." I did the first one on this list to test the example. Royalbroil 03:41, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks; when I moved another, it went as you described. I'll get others when I get a chance. Nyttend (talk) 17:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Tim Steele (racing)

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Modified stock car racing

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Thank you

Thanks for the compliment. I've really been putting a lot of work into my photography. -Freekee (talk) 15:15, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

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Oh my - this is the first time anything like this has happened to me! I don't know what to say?! I'm honored. Royalbroil 03:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Poland, Wisconsin

I made changes to the town of Eaton, Brown County and the Brown County articles concerning the unincorporated community of Poland when you start the article. The redlines jst have to turn blue. Poland, Wisconsin is supposed to be the UFO center of Wisconsin according to the Roadside America website-Hope you are well-Thanks-RFD (talk) 11:29, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

I located the town for Wahlain, Wisconsin and made the changes as well. Three cheers for out DeLorme Wisconsin atlases!-RFD (talk) 12:38, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for having my back, Rfd! Royalbroil 04:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your support at my RfA

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Many thanks for your work with Wisconsin related articles-RFD (talk) 22:59, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I do handed them out but until now they limited to WikiProject Wisconsin-Many thanks-RFD (talk) 14:05, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Poland, Wisconsin and ufo landing pad

Some man in Poland, Wisconsin built a UFO landing pad. This is in the Roadside America website. I will leave it up to you about adding this to the Poland, Wisconsin article. The article is funny but I am not sure this would add anything to the article-Many thanks-RFD (talk) 12:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I saw that article in my google search too and I passed on the content because I thought it didn't belong. So what if someone a few miles away is a big UFO fan and is listed on Roadside America. I won't remove if someone who knows what they're doing adds (like you). Royalbroil 01:43, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
On adding about the ufo landingpad-to the Poland, Wisconsin-I am taking a pass also. If someone else adds it with citation then fine> Thank you-RFD (talk) 00:01, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Hollandtown, Wisconsin

I found a citation for Hollandtown, Wisconsin in Brown County but it is under the name of Holland. This is also the same in the DeLorme atlas. However, it is the same community. I don't know if you want to add a sentence to clarify that this community can be known as Holland or Hollandtown. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 23:58, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks-RFD (talk) 13:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Essential Records (Christian)

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2010 Auto Club 500

If you're not busy, I would like you to give me so advice to see how I can fix the article. If you have the time to do a peer review that would also be very helpful. Thanks. --Nascar1996 16:14, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Also, I would like to review Good Article Nominations, but I have been confused and would like to hear some advice. Thanks. --Nascar1996 17:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Calvary, Wisconsin

I like the article and photos about Calvary, Wisconsin-Hope you are well-Thanks-RFD (talk) 17:04, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm glad to see that your patience during that long wait was worth the while! I hope that you are well, too! Royalbroil 23:08, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Mikesville, Wisconsin

Hi! Do you have any photos about Mikesville, Wisconsin? I came across the article this morning and manage to find a citation. Maybe you can take a look at the article. Thanks-RFD (talk) 12:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

I first wondered why you asked about this one in particular until I looked up where it's at. I don't think I've ever been there. Some day I'll work on photographing Winnebago County Registered Historic Places (maybe after racing season in fall?) and I'll go to Butte des Mortes - that would be a great combination to photograph. I do watch the new Wisconsin articles feed to see if there's any that I've already photographed. I hope that you're doing well! Royalbroil 13:48, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Mail jumping

The article on Mail jumping was an interesting article. As always you did an excellent job with the research and writing. One other item-I put in a request for photos for the article about the Shrine of Our Lady of Good Hope in Champion, Wisconsin. Bishop Ricken set up some diocesan commission to investigate the visions Sister Adele had of the Blessed Virgin Mary-this will be interesting-Many thanks-RFD (talk) 11:23, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment! Mail jumping did work out well. There's lots of interest in the topic by national media since it is so unusual. I do still remember telling you that I'll photograph that shrine, good idea to put out the photograph request. I told my family about the shrine and we're all interested. So hopefully the next time that we go to Door County we'll catch it while going through Green Bay. I'd like to pick cherries in August, talk about fond memories! Bishop Ricken sure is the best bishop compared to the last many nationally-known ones that have come through Green Bay on their way to becoming archbishops/cardinals. He's really working to keep parishes open instead of closing everything and throwing communities into chaos like what happened with my original home parish. He's a real down-to-earth people person instead of an aristocrat. Royalbroil 03:06, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Many thanks for your response-on the subject of bishops my diocese-La Crosse-is getting a new bishop Bishop Callahan-from Milwaukee-RFD (talk) 11:27, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for mail jumping

-- Cirt (talk) 06:03, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations-RFD (talk) 19:04, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


Hello, you might be interested in assess these articles. Please note that as of June 20th, there were 193 articles unassessed. Thanks. --Nascar1996 (sign) 04:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

PLEASE - start a new thread instead of making dig back in the archives. You keep adding new topics to an old topic. It will make archiving much harder and I hate having to scroll back through to try to find some old section. So I moved it to its own section. I've known about assessment for years, I rarely assess. Others used to do it, I've always rather spend time improve an article instead of spending time with assessment. Right now I'm looking through all of the images that I got today at the Road America Nationwide race. I had a great time, interesting race. Like the MRN announcers said, the fans were either NASCAR fans or fans of the track. I'm both! I used the telephoto on my camera & got decent shots of most drivers. So there'll be a large influx of images for both the drivers and their cars. Royalbroil 04:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I watched it on television; I'm not that much of a road course fan, but the race was pretty good. Okay, for some reason I just rather put it in the old; I guess its where my talk page is so short. --Nascar1996 (sign) 04:37, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Also, I have a question it is located here. --Nascar1996 (sign) 04:42, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict) It is supposed to be based on topics. Since my last post I found usable pictures of Ron Fellows, Tony Ave, and Alex Kennedy, sweet! I had a whole bunch before that like J. R. Fitzpatrick and many others. I've always been a huge fan of the road courses. I like watching the drivers be required to not just turn left all day. Most of the earliest races that I watched were Indy Cars on road courses like Road America. Royalbroil 04:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes, also when you were saying "It is supposed to be based on topics" is that the answer to the question? --Nascar1996 (sign) 04:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
No. Sorry, the edit conflict bit me. I wasn't replying to your question here; I did at WikiProject NASCAR. I was commenting about talk pages in general. Royalbroil 05:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Okay. I have start List of Sprint Cup Series Champions. --Nascar1996 (sign) 05:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

If you're not busy, please preview the list and make sure it is good. Also, one editor is wanting to discuss if this article should be merged to [[List of NASCAR champions. It is being discussed here. Thanks. --Nascar1996 (sign) 02:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
I want to see how List of NASCAR Sprint Cup Series champions is doing compared to the Featured list criteria. Will you please help me. Thanks. --Nascar1996 (sign) 22:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
I did a quick glance (less than 1 minute). I think it's very far away. Only five references! You need to provide sources for EVERYTHING in the article. There needs to be a lot more text. Probably around C class. Royalbroil 03:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay. That is very dissapointing, I thought it would be better. Guess I'll never do this then. :( --Nascar1996 Go Jimmie Johnson 03:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
That's why anything Featured is held in such high regard - it's a LOT of work just to do one article! It needs to be so complete that no one should be able to ask "Why didn't this article talk about... (insert a major situation about a topic)?" You've been having an easy time making Good Articles compared to anyone else that I know. NASCAR race reports are a fairly limited topic. I think that you shouldn't give up so easy. I think it can be done. I heard of both of these owners and writing a stub shouldn't be a big deal since there should be ample sources. If you're not on a fast track, I would like to write articles on these two people in the next few weeks. I probably have pictures of their cars; I remember one for Krauskopf - I think I took it with the K&K Insurance sponsorship. Royalbroil 04:28, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I have a great photo of a course worker displaying the blue flag. I've never seen that flag before on TV, only a blue flag with a diagonal strip of yellow, orange, or red which means that the lap cars should move out of the way of the leaders. Any idea what it means in NASCAR? Other images that turned out well from show cars in the spectator area include Kasey Kahne's splitter (red car with white splitter from both the front view and side view) and a roof flag. Royalbroil 04:28, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Why I said that was because if its not even close to featured list status then this should be delisted because thats the list I used to help me. About the flag it means a faster car is approaching per Racing flags. I am happy that you have good pictures. NASCAR is very hard to look for references where most of the technology wasn't created in the late 40s, 50's or 60s. Also how do you like my newer signature? --Nascar1996 Go Jimmie Johnson 13:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I will also look up on that car owner I believe. If you would, please view 2010 Toyota/Save Mart 350 and tell me if that is better than the others. Thanks--Nascar1996 Go Jimmie Johnson 13:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I hope that you don't mind waiting until next week for the article review because I have little time this week. I had off on Monday and I'm leaving Thursday night right after work for a weekend getaway. My main internet goal this week is getting all of my racing pictures on my flickr account which is a major task considering all of the NASCAR pictures I got at Saturday's Nationwide race. I have great pictures of all 43 cars and almost every driver during the parade laps. As for the Formula One driver's article: that shows you what it took to get a featured list when I started in 2005. That article would get laughed out of town now. It should get a featured list reassessment. If you're going to do that, please be nice at bring up the problem at WikiProject Formula One. I bet they'll take care of it because that WikiProject is the only real active motorsports WikiProject besides WikiProject Motorsport. Without looking it up, the signature probably would get you in trouble because it is promoting someone. I'd change it immediately. Royalbroil 01:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I was just asking for a minute review or something. I have looked in the history of the Formula One article and the nominator hasnt editied in a while. About the images, their need to go to a Sprint Cup race and talke similair pictures. About my signature, I changes it to — Nascar1996 Contribs / Tasks 01:41, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, a few of my images have been professionally used. I got a GREAT story on this topic that I'd like to share with you sometime. Do you have email enable so I can send it? I wasn't trying hard to get great driver images or else I would have walked to the edge of the track instead of sitting in my seat. I have a great camera - so I used the telephoto lens in sport mode and held down the shoot button (it repetitively shoots about 2-3 pictures per second). I think I shot 200 pictures of the drivers in less than 2 minutes. I'll try to find time to look at that article tonight. Royalbroil 00:25, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Also, where you are a admin would you please un delete 2011 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series; the admin that deleted it is no longer active. Thanks. --Nascar1996 Contribs / Tasks 17:10, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

YesY Done Again, this is a completely separate topic that should be its own section. I undeleted it, its an almost-certain future event. I'm happy to help. Royalbroil 00:25, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
I have my email address shown in my preferences does that mean it is enabled if so then yes. Thanks you for undeleting that. --Nascar1996 Contribs / Tasks 00:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
The sentence you pointed out needs to be reworded some how because Spped and Mears were team mates and Ekstrom was Mears replacement for Sonomo only then Reed Sorenson will replace him afterwards. The Phoenix Racing team is no way similair to Red Bull Racing's collision. --Nascar1996 Contribs / Tasks 02:32, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
The article flow is overall better but there are definitely some issues (I pointed out some). So did Mears lose his ride? If so, you might want to say that the team used Ekstrom as a fill-in driver while changing drivers. It also should be said when the accident happened (I think it was the week before). Royalbroil 03:36, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I added three references, you may wnat to tak a look at it now. --Nascar1996 Contribs / Tasks 03:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired =WCBVI

In my browsing and wanderings through WP-Wisconsin I came across an article on the Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired. Would you please take a look at it-the article has possibilities-I do believe some of the buildings are on the NRHP register. Also I had to do a move for the official name of the school-as always I hope you are well-I had "minor" surgery last week sort of an emergency-doing better-Thank you-RFD (talk) 13:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear that you are doing well after your surgery and I pray for your recovery. I'm on vacation today and Friday. I had a great weekend. I watch Matt Kenseth's son Ross Kenseth race at Wisconsin International Raceway on Thursday, caught the Nationwide Series race on Saturday at Road America, and went to Slinger Speedway on Sunday night. All three were very memorable. This Thursday night I'm going to my uncle's cabin in northern Wisconsin for a weekend getaway. I hope some sightseeing in Escanaba, Michigan with my family next Friday and races at Norway Speedway that night if the weather is good. I have lots of pictures to upload from the NASCAR race of both the drivers and the cars. I'm not seeing an obvious connection to the National Register in a quick check of National Register of Historic Places listings in Rock County, Wisconsin. No time to look now; I'm doing some tourism today as well. Royalbroil 13:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
I check the NRHP register for listings for Rock County, Wisconsin also and I did not noticed anything. There are some buildings at the Wisconsin School for the Deaf in Walworth County that I think is one the NRHP register-Hope your upcoming weekend goes well-have a good time-many thanks-RFD (talk) 19:18, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Please check your e-mail

This is Wikipedia business-please check your e-mail and then get back to me-Thanks-RFD (talk) 10:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


Hello, if you would like, you can nominate anything such as images, biographies, articles and Did you knows, just add it on the talkpages. I may or may not approve them. Note: You can make up any DYKs. --Nascar1996 Contribs / Tasks 22:51, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Two of your article creations (David Pearson & Alan Kulwicki) are now going to be able to be viewed from this Portal. --Nascar1996 Contribs / Tasks 02:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Jared Siefert

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I have nominated Jared Siefert, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jared Siefert. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

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Jared Siefert

I didn't realize you had written Jared Siefert. I was in the process of going through Category:American racecar drivers and either cleaning up or AFDing the worst I find there. I nominated the article because I don't feel that IMCA Modified is a fully professional series and therefore drivers who have only competed in the series may not meet WP:ATHLETE. If you can provide any information regarding the "professional" status of IMCA Modified I would gladly withdraw the nomination. -Drdisque (talk) 23:58, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

I guess you choose your battles. There was no mention of fully professional in ATHLETE until it was just rewritten and I find requiring a driver to be fully professional to be lacking in some cases when GNC is easily met with someone who accomplished a national championship. That WP:ATHLETE discussion isn't even completed and there is significant opposition. I'm glad you found some of the worse cases because I never understood why some articles were created. Royalbroil 00:54, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Administrator help redirect

There is an article about Jerris Leonard; however, another editor did another article Jerris G. Leonard-same man. I redirected this editor's article to the first article with limited results what went wrong? Thank you-RFD (talk) 20:41, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help-RFD (talk) 22:51, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

2010 Coke Zero 400

Hello, Royalbroil I have a question to ask if you don't care. Do you belive NoseNuggets should add that much television and computer broadcasts to the article? Please reply. Thank you. --Nascar1996 Contribs / Tasks 03:00, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I personally think it's fine but other people don't agree according to comment's that I've seen. I think that people will look at the article now wondering how they can watch the race. I normally would be against that paragraph on the 3-D broadcast but it's different if this is a first. Royalbroil 03:23, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay thanks for your help. --Nascar1996 Contribs / Tasks 03:28, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Somerset High School

Hi! I am back again with another administrator request. A new article about Somerset High School in St. Croix County came up. However, the article is labeled: Somerset School District. I tried changing the title to Somerset High School but this refused to make the change. If you do make the change you may want to use: Somerset High School (Wisconsin) just in case there are other high schools with that name. Hope you are doing well-RFD (talk) 12:48, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I did it. However, I didn't need to use an admin powers. After I discovered the refusal, I did it over using the name that you suggested with (Wisconsin). The disambiguation page that caused the problem already had that name pegged for the article. Royalbroil 02:25, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks again-I will keep that in mind-hope you are doing well-RFD (talk) 10:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

A question

Hello RoyalBroil. I have a question about referencing at Talk:2010 Toyota/Save Mart 350/GA1, under the "race" subsection under the "detailed review" header. I was suggesting that Nascar1996 place refs at the beginning of the section to save him from having to reference every sentence/paragraph. I think I'm just confusing him more. I'd appreciate your take on the matter. Thanks, Airplaneman Review? 19:12, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello again :). I have answered your questions on my editor review. Thank you for taking the time to review me! Airplaneman 20:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


Hey there RB!!! Saw the note you dropped off, and I hope it was some great action you saw. Slinger is definitely a great track to catch some quality racing. Hope all is going well for you! Miss ya bud! :) — Ched :  ?  23:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

2010 Toyota/ Save Mart 350

Do you believe if this article continues down this path that it may become a featured article? --Nascar1996 Contributions / Guestbook 02:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I think it's a fair distance off the mark after doing a quick check. Why use the Formula One term classification for the results section? I think it should be renamed. Maybe "results"? Royalbroil 03:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
As the reviewer, I agree. Renaming accordingly… Airplaneman Review? 04:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Featured article. I thought it wasn't close, but it not far away either. --Nascar1996 Contributions / Guestbook 03:28, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
It will need work, especially with the referencing (more 3rd party sources). Other thoughts include fleshing out the prose. BTW, RoyalBroil, can Nascar1996 get Autoreviewer rights (does he qualify)? I am not sure if he has created the recommended 75 articles, but he creates frequently and we can trust that the pages aren't bad. Airplaneman Review? 04:43, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Included redirects then yes, otherwise I have only created about 25-30 articles. --Nascar1996 Contributions / Guestbook 04:48, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

RoyalBroil, another question that came up at the GA review was how to cite television shows. I looked at the {{cite}} documentation and don't see a template for them. Airplaneman Review? 18:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I use {{Cite episode}} . Royalbroil 11:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Ebenezer, Wisconsin

I started an article on Ebenezer, Wisconsin. This community was the birthplace of the economist and educator Edwin E. Witte. I do not know if you have any photos of the community. I hope you are doing well-Thank you-RFD (talk) 21:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

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