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December 2011

Talk:Pretty Much Dead Already

Moved to User talk:Rusted AutoParts § Talk:Pretty Much Dead Already: It's about their editing behavior, not mine.

Unfortunately, i do not view Wikipedia as an oligarchy, where the minority can trump the majority. spoilers are allowed, but whatever. I changed the picture. And NEVER accuse me of something i'm not. RAP (talk) 14:17 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Lol, i'm certainly not an newt. RAP (talk) 0:44 7 December 2011 (UTC)
So much for using your eyeballs in a spell, then. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 12:21, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I think you put something into MiszaBot's milk, he's gone crazy.

Resolved: Not me, the bot broke itself; will fix anyway; replying at other user's talk page as requested.

Poor MiszaBot has gone berserk, but don't worry, it's just on three pages. He's deleting instead of archiving. I traced it back, I think. Did you change the templates on wikiproject journalism, media or Portugal ? well, not Portugal, some IP did that one I think. Apparently Misza's config can be subtly altered into a time bomb, you did that by accident, and when he returned to the page, he deleted his programming and went on a rampage. Anyhow, delighted if you could clean up the mess, I'll try and do Portugal. I'm very tired right now. Penyulap talk 22:20, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh, please hassle me on my talkpage rather than here. Penyulap talk 22:23, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Notability-section

Resolved: Moot; TfD tagging was an error, and was immediately self-reverted by Bulwersator.

A tag has been placed on Template:Notability-section requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an unambiguous misrepresentation of established policy.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Bulwersator (talk) 13:03, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

No such TfD; I see you self-reverted, immediately, so I assume it was an error or a mind-changing. Thanks for the notice, though. I certainly would have commented at the TfD if it had been a real one. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 00:49, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

December 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States

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Pleonasm and tuna fish

Moved to Talk:Pleonasm § "Tuna fish" dispute: This is an article content issue, not a user issue.

I see that you were involved in the "tuna fish" issue on Pleonasm back in 2006. Like the person who you reverted, I also draw a distinction between "tuna fish" (an ingredient) and "tuna" (an animal). You were quite right to revert it without citation, but I just wanted you to know that I have located a citation (Merriam-Webster) and added it to the article. I believe it to be largely regional (I am from California, but my relatives are from the east coast, so I cannot confirm the "source" of my usage), as it is apparent that this is not a universal distinction. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 19:00, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, but sadly I've had to dispute this, at that article (and at Tuna, where similar changes were made based on this source, which on this particular issue does not appear to be reliable for current English-language usage, as there's no context in the source - the phrase is simply recorded without any information as to region, era, etc. - and other evidence I provide at Talk:Pleonasm proves it is inaccurate. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 11:24, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
No problem! I always welcome opposing viewpoints when they come from reasonable people. :) I've responded on the talk page. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 22:12, 20 December 2011 (UTC)


Resolved: Just a chat.

I noticed your changing of "cite web quick" for the "cite web" template in several articles and I am grateful for that. The non-standard template appeared overnight in several (esoteric) microbiology pages and I was confused, not only by the poor grammar of the name, but by its role. As it appeared to been a technical thing, I left it to others to remove; instead it resulted in citation being simply removed or slowing being changed. As you can guess, in addition thanking you for removing it from two or more articles I am also hoping to placate my curiosity of what the hell that template was about. --Squidonius (talk) 19:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

My pleasure (well, it was a pain, really, but seeing the pointless templates gone amounts to a pleasure). It wasn't a technical thing, it was someone with a questionable understanding of templates trying to create a "simpler" version of the {{cite web}} and {{cite book}} citation templates, that did nothing to make them easier to use, only impossible to use to accurately and completely cite sources. I've nominated both of the bogus templates for speedy deletion under WP:CSD:T3. I believe that the editor saw the real templates' documentation providing copy-pasteable blocks of citation template code, with lots of options, and must have assumed that all of the parameters included in those code blocks were mandatory, when of course they aren't. I also did a lot of work cleaning up said editor's poor, incomplete citations in a few of the affected articles, but gave up after many hours. If you'd like to help with that, see what I did at Cat, with these edits, mostly a matter of following proper WP style (e.g. "Johnson, A. M." vs. the "Johnson AM" style used in some journals) and, most importantly, following the URLs provided in the incomplete citations and getting additional details from them. Oh, and using's "Wayback Machine" search to find readable archived copies of stuff now at dead URLs. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 11:42, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

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Resolved: Fixed one, and the other can't be fixed, as there's no article yet.

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Resolved: Now following the process I forgot about.

Thank you for your barnstar idea that you added to the Wikipedia:Barnstars page. However, please discuss proposed barnstars on the WikiProject Wikipedia Awards talk page. Please don't add it without a consensus. Pinetalk 08:45, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Right, I forgot there was a process. Kind of a pointless process, but one nonetheless, so revert away. It would be helpful if there were an HTML comment at the top of each section on that page saying not to just add one but propose it on the talk page. Most of us spend more or less zero time at that page, and with over 500 guidelines and policies on the system already, it's literally impossible for anyone to remember those, and they actually matter. Remembering vague rules of thumb and unclear de facto mores of every minor policy page simply won't happen. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 11:55, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Yes, and I noticed you stole the idea from my Quasar barnstar too. No wonder you started the process as you did. Like someone rushing to the patent office without enough proper documentation.--Djathinkimacowboy what now?! 15:06, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Um, not, they're quiet different. That's why mine eventually got approved, and many people didn't like the weird name of yours anyway. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖכþ Contrib. 13:52, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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Resolved: Oll korrect now.

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Merry Christmas!

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we wish you a merry christmas and a happy new year! Pass a Method talk 19:11, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm not a Christian, but thanks for the sentiment. Happy holidays or just days for you, too. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 19:13, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Just to make sure

Resolved: Fixed my error.

Where did you move that request from Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Article message boxes to? Debresser (talk) 01:19, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

That was me asleep at the switch; didn't notice the template talk page redirected. Fixed. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 01:23, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
I was sure you would see it yourself. Evoked a smile with me when I saw it. Debresser (talk) 07:29, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
I moved on so fast, I wouldn't've. I just saw a template editprotected on a WP page and "fixed" it and away I went! I did add the |template-name-here bit so no one else makes same mistake. PS: The changes looked good to me, but I'm not an admin so I can't fix it. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 07:32, 26 December 2011 (UTC)