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Hi Sagittarian Milky Way, I have nominated your Saturn image from PPR to FPC - see Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Saturn from above. Cheers, --jjron (talk) 08:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


Why did you change the antennaheigt of the Empire State Building. says that the building is 1472ft (448.7m). When te antenna was added in 1951, it had been 1454ft (443m) tall. In 1984 the antenna has been increased. --DimiJerchel (talk) 10:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Empire State Building[edit]

Hello. I learned it from the website (building description), that the Empire State Bldg is 448m tall (by pinnacle height). "Antenna was increased from 443m". See the following link: [1]--DimiJerchel (talk) 13:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

WIkiproject Astronomy importance ratings[edit]

I suppose you'd consider the Dobsonian telescope fringe and Bottom because when it was invented the state of the art had already passed it by. Or Astronomy magazine is a junk magazine on the same level as that Nibiru crap since it's only subscribed to by 7 times more people than all the professional astronomers in the world? Light pollution is important to astronomy. Amateur and professional astronomy are important to astronomy.

Ah, a rant. To take your first example, to me the Dobsonian would be important to astronomy if it had actually been used to discover something meaningful. In point of fact, it would rate a 'mid' based on the current schema. And yes I rate the 'Astronomy' magazine as bottom, because it is mainly recycling information from professional astronomers and others. Amateur astronomy has been important to astronomy because of the observations and discoveries they have made. I don't see how star parties can be rated as anything beyond bottom.
Dobsonian: Okay, so there's no problem with that, then. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 11:45, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Clearly you see this quite differently than I do, so perhaps we can discuss the reasoning behind the ratings a little more. But I'm not going to get into a war of words here.
Do you know any professional astronomers by any chance? How many use privately purchased equipment on their own time?
On the flip side, there are many amateurs who work as physicists, chemists, programmers etc. for a living who would've liked a PhD in astronomy instead, but potential applicants far exceeds jobs. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 11:45, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
You're clearly an individual who is looking for an argument. I'm not interested. Bye.—RJH (talk)

If you want to rate topics only by how they advance(d) science then you need to start a WP:Professional Astronomy. We already have a WP:Astronomical Objects, a WP:Solar System.. WP:Astronomy is the top-level category. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 20:38, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

If you want to start a WP:Amateur astronomy, you are always free to do so.—RJH (talk) 21:27, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Just for the LP thing, let's try a different angle. If you don't believe light pollution affects professional astronomy, then tell me why there are no observatories in New York City? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 11:45, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Regaring Hubble space telescope[edit]


 Thanks for your answer to my question. But i want it some more clear because it is hard to understand fully.

 Thanks again
 Dinesh Kumar B  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dineshbkumar06 (talkcontribs) 05:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC) 
I'll explain further, but just to be clear, are you asking about pictures like the one in Hubble Ultra Deep Field or the one in Messier 74? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 05:55, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

ITN for Ignalina Nuclear Power Plant[edit]

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An apology[edit]

In response to your comment about my mistake on the "Solar eclipse of January 15, 2010" article, I would like to apologise for my mistake about the Manila eclipse statement that I accidentally revert it back. Actually I didn't realise about it that when I was doing corrections. Please admit it as a mistake! Khairul hazim 14:01, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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Alcohol filled lens[edit]

I suspect the lens was hollow and filled with alcohol because a solid glass one would take too long to cool (it would need to be cooled slowly so it didn't crack). RJFJR (talk) 16:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

For making me smile at your humorous comment at the Science Reference Desk. Ankh.Morpork 21:09, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

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You know, specifically mentions allowing use on Wikipedia. It's only the innaneness of the all-or-nothing upload wizard that prevents an accurate description page. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 00:35, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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April 2013[edit]

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Use of weather radar as a ground mapping tool[edit]


It is a bit late, but I have replied to the discussion on the talk page of Air New Zealand flight 901, about the possibility of their weather radar showing the land beneath them. Your opinion was the most correct one of all, in contrast to what the other two editors thought about how WX radar works in an airliner cockpit. BTW, that same WX radar CAN pickup and display small blips, when other aircraft are in the area too. [[2]]

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Some bubble tea for you![edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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friendly advice[edit]

I don't think the warmest year ever nomination ever had a chance, given an actual look at the sources and stats. But walls of text, especially insulting off-topic, and frankly bizarre personal accusations don't win the day--and you pretty much sealed the nomination's fate with that. Admins don't want to read someone like yourself calling me, an atheist with a bachelor's in Bio from an Ivy league school who believes in global warming, an anti-science evangelistic crank. The ability to step back from your emotions is a sign of maturity. Had I taken you to ANI for your insults you'd have been lucky to get off with a warning. Next time focus on the argument, and let it speak for itself. PS, to clarify, I will not oppose you in the future because of this disagreement of ours, so view me as a potential ally. :) μηδείς (talk) 02:17, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

WP:AN thread which you may be interested in[edit]

There's a thread at WP:AN which may be of interest to you. --Jayron32 01:39, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

thanks for your post[edit]

however, I didn't quite get the part about integrated circuits (what this has to do with anything, not to mention that clock frequencies have long stalled) Asmrulz (talk) 08:21, 20 September 2015 (UTC) PS was the book by any chance "Pity the Billionaire"? "Chavs"? Asmrulz (talk) 08:43, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Well I'm glad you liked it. To explain, I mentioned electronics as it's about the only thing we're improving fast and about the most useful thing we've done since the car. Information society says it has large societal impacts, nothing else seems to be improving anywhere near as many percent a year (besides DNA sequencing), and I've seen the last few centuries divided into just "Industrial Revolution and Information Revolution". And electronics would be what I'd miss the most if I were to permanently time travel to the 1960s. Most things are still improving now (like transistors so faster clock speeds are not required for shorter delays (remember quarter minute page loadings on 3G?). This can't continue much more with silicon but even if they can't make better models anymore the best available should get cheaper for ages, as most of the expense is the billions before the first new chip exists.
I'm afraid it wasn't those titles. It was basically a rattling off of pairs of Republican taking points and long replies with lots of hard facts. The graphs didn't show the Great Recession so that edition at least was printed soon before. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 15:07, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
I see, thanks Asmrulz (talk) 13:05, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Reference desk women's nipples[edit]

You are too funny sir. I loved it.

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Your Comments at AN[edit]

Your most recent comments at WP:AN don't appear to understand the message that some editors including myself are trying to send you. You were told that your comments, in particular about the sexuality of young adult male H. sapiens, were out of line, and that you should be warned to refrain from them, and you have made another comment about human sexuality. Don't mess things up by providing evidence that you aren't listening to the rebukes. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:28, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for wanting to help, though I wasn't going to continue.
I didn't think of this at the time but I guess interestingly even the slightest appearance of it looking like it might continue in the future might be worse than anyone who might've overlooked that hey, at least it wasn't gratuitous, but I'm not going to be a grandmaster level of social skills. I was not implying that that justified it, just that an editor making some excuse just to talk about it like, I don't know, "Yes, high fare inflation is bothering me, you know what else is bothering me?, [paragraphs of sexuality]" would be a far more bannable RD editor. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 15:39, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Sagittarian Milky Way, to put it bluntly, the reference desk is no place for editors to share their personal experience or personal opinions. Readers come to the reference desks with specific questions and the editors who generously give their time to help out there should use their knowledge of Wikipedia to refer them to the best sources for informational answers, whether they exist on Wikipedia or not.
It's not a chatroom to discuss your views and opinions on matters of life and sexuality. There are many, many other places on the internet where you can share your opinion on toplessness and the like but the Wikipedia reference desks are not the appropriate forum. Since it was mentioned you have not been warned, consider this a formal warning that this behavior is not acceptable. Liz Read! Talk! 22:27, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

I like how the Pedants of academia will get upset and threaten a user yet these rules for the reference desk remain largely unenforced. Every day you can see violations occurring (chat room, opinions, soap boxing etc). It's pointless to single out users like sagittarian when the larger problem as a whole is not addressed. Void burn (talk) 00:30, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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WP:RDMA#Is an infinite sphere circumnavigatable at infinite speed?[edit]

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Yes, often I'd be awake when Jasper Deng's obviously good faith request for specification was made but I was making up sleep deprivation so that's why I didn't answer until I did (I was asleep the whole time). Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:59, 6 December 2015 (UTC)


Just how expensive was shit before deep coal mining began in the UK? Сте́нька (talk)

Well according to this purple wool was $175/lb in 1918 which is $2,750/lb today, and men's shirts about 0.5 lbs. So $1375.29 for the cloth plus whatever it cost to pay someone to finish it. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:25, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

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It wasn't obvious to me. It's a useful convention when making jokes responses at the Ref Desk to use small font. It avoids confusing people like me who aren't as clever as you! --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 13:46, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


I'd quite like a question about Hitler's vegetarianism discussed on the Humanities desk. I do remember reading a source which seemed authoratitive saying it was a myth, yet our article implies the opposite. We shouldn't let trolls stop business as usual. Please will you set it up for me? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 07:47, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

You deleted my Ref Desk reply ?[edit]

[3] StuRat (talk) 18:45, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Sorry. The edit conflict warning should've appeared. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 19:54, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
No prob. StuRat (talk) 02:34, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[edit]

What an idiot that guy is. Trump is a supporter of Israel. It might be nice, just once, to let the Nazi troll's stupid comments stand, and let everyone else make a monkey out of him. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:11, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

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Your refdesk question re NASCAR drivers[edit]

I left not one, but two responses to your question. You almost certainly know more about NASCAR than I do, so I may be way off track regarding drivers' situations. But I'd love for you to read them and reply to both (in one response, if you like - you need not make two separate posts) - there, not here. Eliyohub (talk) 12:51, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

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Answer on the viral horse[edit]

Not sure if the somewhat lengthy answer I gave to your q on the humanities refdesk is helpful to you, but I'd appreciate if you gave a response there telling me what you think, if it offers any illumination on the breeding value of viral video animals. Eliyohub (talk) 18:20, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Removing others' comments[edit]

Sagittarian Milky Way, could you please review your edits to Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates? You continue to remove other editors' comments... Thanks very much. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 01:28, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Also the section on Lionel Blue here. Thanks again! Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 01:38, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Refactoring other editors' comments[edit]

Please desist from this practice immediately. Many thanks. — O Fortuna! Imperatrix mundi. 05:39, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

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I don't know what exactly happened but you removed my comment with your edit in [4]. I have reinstated it. Dmcq (talk) 20:33, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

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I did assume it was innocent, but I have been to "Piney" bars, and the atmosphere is definitely not welcoming to outsiders or us cityfolk (who grew up in farmland near Philadelphia!) In any case, the usage was wrong. I wasn't sure who had posted the image, otherwise I'd have messaged you. The map you posted is interesting. Conditions may have changed, but in the 80's I and my friends did use to drive to Batsto and park in a big field on the south side of the highway across from Batsto Village and we could indeed see the Milky Way (I had always assumed that term meant the visible stars, not the cloudy "glow") and the Orion Nebula. I have never seen Andromeda that I was aware of, but have probably seen it as a "star." The best you can see from 30 minutes away from Batsto is Orion's limbs and belt, but not his sword. μηδείς (talk) 19:23, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Conditions were much better in the 80s (note the slightly different scales). The increase may be a bit different since that is Italy and this is the Batsto but Italy's population grew very slowly between the data points. Every square kilometer within about 200 kilometers has to be considered to make these maps but I haven't looked into the math enough to have a good idea of the relative contributions of New York City and Philadelphia vs the nearer Atlantic City vs their NJ suburbs vs the even closer rural parts of NJ on how much brighter it's gotten (map calculated from ~2013 data). My hunch is the growth of the suburbs (and casinos?) might have more effect on how much brighter it got than NYC and Philly proper. It seems like over the decades people and new generations get used to and don't even notice lighting levels that someone who time traveled from the 50s would consider overkill. And many still believe that brighter reduces crime when there's no scientific evidence for that. The mid-80s had less solar activity to ionize oxygen and sodium atoms from sea salt near space so the sky somewhat darker than solar maximum. Lights turning off the later it is actually helps a bit also (the map's for 1 am cause that's when a satellite data was taken). And if you went when there's less water vapor to scatter lights you'd see more (nights after a cold front in fall are best, hazy nights in summer are worst). Luckily, the Andromeda Galaxy's highest at sane hours in fall and almost straight up at these latitudes. In September it's also early enough that twilight ends before the summer Milky Way's at the zenith and late enough that transparent air is still common and Andromeda's highest before 2am. (the other part of the galactic plane that can be overhead at Batsto is 167° from the galactic center instead of 79 so it's harder to see. Also when this happens in evening it's cold) Around May would suck to find the Milky Way since that's when it's lowest in the evening (at 27° latitude the Milky Way can be the horizon exactly). In a pristine sky Andromeda's got to be visibly fuzzy to the naked eye or Bayer would've given it a Bayer letter like a star. (omega Centauri (a mini-dwarf galaxy" that's much denser in the center) was presumably given a Bayer letter cause it was so close to the horizon in Europe that it's fuzziness couldn't be seen) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 06:36, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. The casinos were not an issue at that time per se since they had already been built in a big boom before we used to go there. The road through the area was repaved in the 2000's and I suspect that street lamps were installed, which didn't exist at the time we used to go there, and it would have been clear, moonless Fall weekends, since we were smart enough to realize driving 45 minutes to see the moon and haze was pointless.
Unfortunately, the development I grew up in (originally our township was a crossroads in farmland on the western edge of the pine barrens) was close to farmland which over the years has been developed into crowded, sprawling shopping centers with large well-lit parking lots and a huge auto-mall complex with at least ten dealerships kept lit as bright as day, so much so that to the south of my parents' house it looks like the horizon is on fire after dark. The number of stars visible there was never very high, but its easily an order of magnitude less now than what it was--I remember seeing Orion's sword, which is now invisible there. The Atlantic City Expressway is only about 1/4 of a mile from their house.
Maybe I'll take a drive down there to Batsto next time I get the chance and conditions, and will look for Andromeda. If I do, I'll let you know. μηδείς (talk) 17:12, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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Why did you delete my answer?[edit]

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I see that a couple of years ago a proposal to ban you from the Reference desk fell flat on its face. Happy editing! You understand this draft article Talk:Leap week calendar#Revised Gregorian calendar because you have commented on it. Can you transfer it to mainspace? Happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year from 2A00:23C0:8601:9701:F9A0:AAD3:4C07:F7B8 (talk) 18:08, 16 December 2017 (UTC)


That stuff on Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities was Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Vote_(X)_for_Change. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 19:04, 21 December 2017 (UTC)