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Merge mini-jazz and compas[edit]

Why is mini-jazz a separate article than compa if they are the same?????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.192.218.161 (talk) 16:02, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

They aren't the same. It is worded like that currently. I have about 15-20 sources that say it is a separate genre. On the other hand, zouk (beton) is a rarity nowadays, and zouk-love is also called zouk. Also, I originally proposed the merger long ago, but didn't follow through with it. It was a difficult decision to make. Savvyjack23 (talk) 00:57, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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I was so pleasantly surprised to run into your article about rara, thank you for posting! My family used to call me that growing up

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Thanks, I appreciate the badge. The funny thing is that I'm actually a host at the Teahouse, and just stopped by the guest section to invite more people to come. Vjmlhds (talk) 05:17, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Fancy that! Well you can never have too many warm welcomes. How would you describe your experience as a Teahouse host? Savvyjack23 (talk) 02:45, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Not too bad. I help out where and when I can. Vjmlhds (talk) 03:11, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Featuring your work on Wikipedia's front page: DYKs[edit]

Symbol question.svg Thank you for your recent articles, including Polish Haitian, which I read with interest. When you create an extensive and well referenced article, you may want to have it featured on Wikipedia's main page in the Did You Know section. Articles included there will be read by thousands of our viewers. To do so, add your article to the list at T:TDYK. Let me know if you need help, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:31, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, that is great to know and I am glad it was appreciated! I enjoyed creating that one and it had some sentimental value to me as well. I look forward to bringing more noteworthy subjects to Wikipedia. While my current primary focus has been on the Caribbean, (specifically Haiti) I'd thought I'd start my work in the least developed country and then work my way over to Cuba and then to the rest of the Caribbean; then to Latin America and then to perhaps to Africa. There is a lot of history that isn't yet available from these continents that I wish to make known as it gives me great pleasure to do so. I am currently working to expand the dialect of French in Haiti called Haitian French, similarly to the current subjects available noting the French derivatives (example: Swiss French, Belgian French, African French etc). Right now, I believe the article is being unfairly challenged for deletion. The point of the article is to make a distinguish between "Haitian Creole" and "Haitian French". Many people are led to believe that "Haitian French" is the creole spoken in the land, but fail to understand that the French is in fact French and carries an accent in the way that many French countries carry as well. I've sourced it pretty heavy and think it is a good article but it is still a work in progress. If you would like to pitch in on the discussion as to why or why it shouldn't be deleted the talk page is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haitian French. Your input would be much appreciated! I will also definitely come to you if I need help on anything. Thanks again. (By the way I need to work on a cool signature too). Savvyjack23 (talk) 17:33, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

February 2014[edit]

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I always mark my edits down when it is a minor one; in fact I abuse this feature. SJ

I came here to make the same request and, I'm sorry, but I don't understand your above response. You are making significant additions to articles and marking the edit as minor when it isn't. Please don't do this. Also, please always use informative edit summaries. This will help others understand the intent of your edits. Thanks, and thank you for your contributions. – Wdchk (talk) 03:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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For your contributions adding to List of Haitian Americans. ... discospinster talk 03:38, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Eddy Antoine[edit]

Hi there, the category you added was not supported by any reliable sources, so I have removed it. GiantSnowman 10:06, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks Savvyjack23 for correcting the kompa from the compas music article. Honestly it was annoying to have to write down all these kompa-konpa...but people haven't reached a consensus on the word. I favor only compas music because I know its etymology as a foreign word. Anyway thank you for your contributions to the betterment of the article.Pintade (talk) 00:31, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

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Haitian patty deleted[edit]

Haitian patty has again been deleted as copyright infringement. If memory serves, you created an earlier version of the article that was also deleted as copyright infringement. The administrator who deleted the new version of the article noted that it was not copied word for word, but was a close paraphrase of the source article.

I believe that you are editing in good faith, but I've also seen a number of things you added to Wikipedia removed. I hope you will review the advice about avoiding copyright infringement. In addition to the two links above, see Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright and links included there. If you need help with writing or citing sources, feel free to ask. Happy (careful) editing, Cnilep (talk) 02:10, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

What I do not understand though is if I violated copyright rules why wasn't it reverted instead of being completely deleted? I created the article with one or two sentences first that was 100% original and added some more in a later edit. (Isn't original work forbidden as well?) I made sure it was not closely paraphrased the second time. The website also no loner exists. I believe it was wrongly deleted and should have been reverted instead according to Wiki's rules. It shouldn't be held to a double standard. Savvyjack23 (talk) 05:59, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

I did not delete the article, but I did communicate with DangerousPanda, the administrator who deleted it. If you believe that the deletion was improper, you can go to Wikipedia:Deletion review and ask other administrators to review the action. If they conclude that there was a version of the article free of copyright violation, they might restore it. It's probably best to ask User talk:DangerousPanda about it before listing at Deletion review.
You are right that original research is not allowed. That means that the facts or ideas included in the article should be attributed to reliable, published sources. (There is an exception: you don't need to cite a source for common knowledge, information that almost everyone knows.)
On the other hand, the actual words and sentences cannot be plagiarized. Plagiarism includes either copying sentences directly from sources, or changing the words very slightly (called close paraphrase; see the link above), among other behaviors. It can be tricky to obey both of those standards. It's not always clear exactly what is required, what is acceptable, and what is forbidden. I usually tell my students that if they have used four of the same words in the same order as their source material, they have probably committed plagiarism. But, that is simply a rule of thumb; it will not always avoid plagiarism.
Copyright infringement is a special case of plagiarism. It is not only against the ethical norms of writing and publishing; it is against the laws of many countries. For that reason, additions that violate copyright or articles that are mostly copyright violations are deleted from Wikipedia.
I do hope this helps, and I thank you again for your efforts. Cnilep (talk) 08:04, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate your time to clear that up for me; you did a splendid job of doing so might I add. Okay, before I read this response, I created the article again (bare with me), removing the "information" in question and left what I thought was 100% appropriate and have added a "food stub" so the page could be further improved by anyone who wishes to do so, until I can revise it myself. I did so, so that the image I uploaded would not be removed due to being in "limbo" or not used. Just saving some time that's all. By the way, I wasn't inferring that you deleted the page, just meant about the deletion in general. Thank you for the kind words :) Cheers. Savvyjack23 (talk) 08:13, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

March 2014[edit]

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Mia Love[edit]

Your claims that the talk page reached a consensus that Mia Love is not African-American is not supported by what has been said on the talk page. Reading the actual comments there, it seems the trend is that she is both Haitian American and African-American. What matters more is that there are lots and lots of sources that refer to her as African American.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:38, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Tortuga[edit]

I've undone your improper move/renaming of Tortuga Island, Haiti and the Tortuga disambiguation page. The rename/move you did rather lost the history and disconnected the article from its talk page. Please discuss your concerns regarding name changes/moves on talk:Tortuga Island, Haiti. Vsmith (talk) 14:23, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hi. We appreciate your help in the improvement of Wikipedia; when are you planning the complete merger of the two zouk pages?Pintade (talk) 02:49, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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Affranchi / Creole people[edit]

Hello, Savvyjack23. The name "Haitian Creole people" currently redirects to Haitian people, and that page discusses "The Creoles of Sonya Haiti and Haiti's Creole culture". In your opinion, would it be better for "Haitian Creole people" to redirect to Affranchi? If so, you can change where the redirect points by changing the page name in the square brackets. In other words, #REDIRECT [[Haitian people]] could be changed to #REDIRECT [[Affranchi]]. If that were the case, anyone typing or clicking on Haitian Creole people would go to the Affranchi page. That would be more appropriate if "Haitian Creole people" primarily means Affranchi and not other people in or from Haiti. Cnilep (talk) 08:36, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry Cnilep I just realized that; I am just trying to figure this out. The problem is that Creoles of Sonya Haiti may not even exist or incorrect terminology is being used. I actually opened a discussion on the Haitian people talk page about it. Back in these times there were "creoles" also known as "gens de couleur", mulatto, or affranchi which were the colonial terminologies used at the time of Haiti. The creole terminology although "politically correct" in reference to the union of European and African ancestry as well, it was never really used the same way as it has in Louisiana as it is usually referred to the language spoken (but then again, still correct). Also, on the creoles disambiguation page it says " from a number of ethnic groups and social classes dating to colonial times in Haiti" which however I believe to be incorrect as this denoted European (colonial) and African (slave) union as I mentioned above. This page needs citations as well as the Haitian people page. Thank you for cleaning up after a few of my mistakes; I am just trying to make some good faith edits here on the subject. Regards Savvyjack23 (talk) 02:41, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

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Take a pick[edit]

I noticed your title concern in the "talk page" of "African immigration to Puerto Rico" which is a valid one. I can make the page move. Since you seem to have an interest in the Afro-Latino issues, I will ask you. Which do you think would be a more fitting title; "The history of the Afro-Puerto Rican", which is what it really is or simply "Afro-Puerto Rican"? Tony the Marine (talk) 19:31, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Tony the Marine thank you for taking the time to write to me and considering this move, while acknowledging my interest in the subject. In this case, I believe that less is more. The beauty about Latin America is that it shares a certain unity, as it was born into a "New World" with a mixture of many proud races and cultures. The simplicity here keeps the reader involved and can easily make the transition between "Afro-Cuban", "Afro-Puerto Rican", "Afro-Brazilian" etc. For Puerto Ricans of African descent, the acknowledgement as a "current" ethnic group is crucial, rather then being looked at as "historical." Looking over the demographics of Puerto Rico, the Afros in Puerto Rico make up a strong number. As a result, I just would think the title would be more fitting as Afro-Puerto Rican. Thanks again! Savvyjack23 (talk) 08:24, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

  • Thank you for your response Savvyjack23, Afro-Puerto Rican it will be. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:35, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

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WikiProject Latin music scope.[edit]

Hello Savvyjack23! While I do appreciate you tagging WikiProject Latin music on several talk pages, I must inform you that music of Haiti is currently not within the project scope (see the project page for more information). Only Spanish and Portuguese-language music from Latin America, the Iberian Peninsula, and the United States are allowed at the moment. In regards, Erick (talk) 17:01, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks Erick. Savvyjack23 (talk) 18:02, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

A suggestion about Haitian-Americans[edit]

I and a few other editors have created a number of articles on the history of ethnic groups in various cities. I have focused on Baltimore, the user WhisperToMe has done articles for Houston, the user Freechild has focused on Omaha, etc. Given your interests in Haiti and Haitians, I thought that I might suggest you could write similar articles for Haitian-Americans. Some good candidates might include History of the Haitians in Boston, History of the Haitians in Miami, and History of the Haitians in New York City. Of course, you may not be interested, but I thought such an undertaking may interest you. Thanks and have a nice day/night. Solar-Wind (talk) 05:39, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Also, if you know people who can write Haitian Creole, I would love for them to start stubs on the Haitian Creole Wikipedia about things of interest to the Haitian Creole communities in and around New York City and Miami WhisperToMe (talk) 05:45, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Solar-Wind, I would love to create these articles. Thank you for thinking of me. WhisperToMe, I can try to find out, thanks. Savvyjack23 (talk) 19:04, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, I'm glad you like the suggestion. Perhaps another suggestion would be to make an article on French Creole or Haitian Creole in the United States, along the lines of articles on languages in the United States such as French language in the United States. I'm not sure if there is enough information though or perhaps the information should just be in the main French article. French Creole is the third most spoken language in Florida (mostly Haitian Creole, especially in Miami) and there are also speakers in Massachusetts, New York, and a few other states. I know that some government agencies and services in Miami and Boston offer Haitian Creole materials. One source I saw said there are 1 million speakers of Haitian Creole in the USA. So, perhaps there would be enough sources. I don't know, just a thought. Another thing, outside of the USA I know there are a number of Haitian Creole speakers in Canada, especially in the Montreal area, though the article on the French language in Canada doesn't really mention it. I don't mean to dump a bunch on you, ha, just wanted to give you some ideas and as much information as possible. Solar-Wind (talk) 13:29, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

No, not at all, I love the suggestions; keep them coming! I'm gathering some sources up as we speak. Thanks Solar-Wind. Savvyjack23 (talk) 22:48, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Excellent. I created a category for Haitian Creole language media - Category:Haitian Creole-language media. I gathered as many articles as I could find, but I thought that you might know more and could populate it. Thanks. Solar-Wind (talk) 16:39, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Concerning Afro Latino[edit]

As the article states, "An Afro-Latin American (also Afro-Latino in the United States) is a Latin American person of native Sub-Saharan African ancestry; " further down in the article it states "The accuracy of statistics reporting on Afro-Latin Americans has been questioned, especially where they are derived from census reports in which the subjects choose their own designation, because in various countries the concept of black ancestry is viewed with differing attitudes." Afro Latino doesn't mean of pure or majority African descend. It means anyone with African ancestry who identifies as such. Many Latin American countries have categories such as mulatto, pardo, and mestizo (meaning either spanish & indigenous or spanish, indigineous & african, such as hugo chavez who called himself either black or mestizo often. Tatertot1112 (talkcontribs) 23:00, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Tatertot1112, self-identification is very tricky. Hugo Chavez I had left, because he identifies himself as such. The 100 million blacks in Brazil is inaccurate. It is 7.61%, which is more like 17.5 million. Someone who is mixed, is a new breed. This is how history has taken its course since the beginning of time. Do we all not descend from Africa? However I do not see Caucasians identifying themselves as African descent. To agree with you for a second, let's insert pardos and mulattoes. Are you certain that all of these people that you have inserted identify themselves as Afro, and not ones who say they descend from Afro, (all mulattoes say they descend but they might not consider themselves black). You would need to source all these pardos and mulattoes identifying themselves as Afro. If not, it is a much safer bet to insert people of darker completion who actually identify themselves as black or afro. Do these people not deserve to represent afro or African ancestry? When I first came to this page, like it is now, those pictures are not afro or black, they are a mixed people. There should be a page for the America's that separate it, because the CIA census shows otherwise and mentions mixed and blacks separately. Savvyjack23 (talk) 20:22, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

FYI, Tatertot was a sock puppet. Dougweller (talk) 16:01, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

I should have known! There was an issue before, which must have slipped my mind this time around that it could have been as well. Thanks for letting me know Dougweller.

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Oh shoot Mikaey, I did do that! Sorry about it; I remember trying to move the page and it said something about a "page with this named already exists" and wouldn't allow me to make the move. What should I do next time?! Savvyjack23 (talk) 23:38, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hope that helps! Thanks, Mikaey, Devil's advocate 04:23, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

It did, thanks Mikaey. Savvyjack23 (talk) 05:25, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

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Nick Stone[edit]

If you breach WP:BLP again at Nick Stone (author) then I'll be considering administrative action. Find a source where he self-identifies his nationality - Scottish, English, Haitian - or drop it, please. - Sitush (talk) 12:33, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Sitush, who's talking about nationality?!?!?! Descent does not mean nationality. Oxford dictionary: "Descent: a person's family origins." Example: ...to be of Scottish descent. [1] I included sources where Stone briefly describes his family origins (descent), speaking as a English national (citizen/countryman/place of birth/jus soli). Oxford dictionary: Nationality: "The status of belonging to a particular nation." [2] I never said, he was a Scottish or Haitian national (citizen), nor did he. Here's a perfect example. "A person of Chinese parents was born in the UK, would make him a English/British citizen/national (his nationality) but of Chinese descent (origin, ethnicity)." I can get 10 administrators right now on this immediately to give their inputs, which would considerably be in favor of these cats. Please, save yourself from looking like a complete moron on this subject, since you cannot distinguish the difference between national and descent. This is why these cats are available and to used for. When somebody says I am half this or half that he isn't talking about citizenship, rather, ethnicity (descent). Nick Stone source I included in the article in March: [3] Savvyjack23 (talk) 18:01, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

You know exactly what I mean. You used "citizenship" on the CFD talk page but you have no idea what citizenship he holds, nor do you know whether he prefers to be English of Haitian descent, Scots of Haitian descent, English of Scots descent, Scot of English descent, Haitian of English descent etc. You can't go making assumptions when it comes to BLPs and you have been told this before. So stop it. It isn't about whether the existence of the categories is valid but about who you put in the categories. I know that we have a source where he says he is half-Haitian/half-Scots descent but that doesn't mean he identifies as primarily English. For example, see Cyrus Pallonji Mistry. - Sitush (talk) 18:24, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Sitush I'm sorry, are you the official spokesman for Mr. Stone? Cyrus Pallonji Mistry's case is different where he is a citizen/national of one of his parents origins. Had there been another country he grew up in that was not related to Ireland (lets say Japan), he would be Japanese (national citizen, not ethnicity) and then being of Irish and Indian descent (family origins). My argument above is the argument I am sticking with as originally intended. I can provide you a million cases on Wikipedia. Furthermore, it doesn't matter what Mr. Stone prefers; he made it public information and elaborated on his ancestry. Is he an English national? Based on the information we know, this is a yes. Is he of Scottish and Haitian origin by the way of his parents. From what we know this is true as well by the way of his Scottish father and Haitian mother. Does this make him citizens of both countries? NO. Cyrus Pallonji Mistry would be considered an ethnic Englishman because his roots are foreign. I will ask for help on this. Savvyjack23 (talk) 20:19, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Have you read WP:BLP yet? You still seem to be assuming things and you cannot do that in BLPs, no matter how logical you might think your assumption is. Take it to WP:BLPN if you want. - Sitush (talk) 20:31, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I've read WP:BLPN; what part of "he made this PUBLIC information in an interview" do you not understand? He doesn't sound like he's shying away from the fact. So are you saying that his family origins might be harmful to his image? I believe you are beginning to sound prejudice. My logic on this is the standard consensus of subjects of this kind. Universally accepted truths make things true for the time being, until we change our thinking. Savvyjack23 (talk) 21:02, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Where has he made public that he prefers to be considered an English citizen or national? How can he be a Scots person of Haitian descent and an English person of Haitian descent? (Being half of each doesn't make him fully either). Show me the sources and I'll go away but, thus far, you just keep saying that he has declared it. - Sitush (talk) 21:07, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
there is a clear diference between Nationality and Decent as stated clearly above by Savvyjack23 (talk · contribs). @ Savvyjack23 always learn to accept a Good Faith. And refrain from using foul languages on other editors. The use of the word Moroon is unacceptable on wikipedia, on this note, you need to tender an unreserve apology to Sitush. Wikicology (talk) 21:31, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
You, too, seem to be unfortunately missing my point. I do not deny that the man says he is of half-Haitian and half-Scots descent. Neither makes him English. Savvyjack has been trying to categorise him as both English of Haitian descent and Scots of Haitian descent but those are not all of the permutations and we don't know what the guy himself says on the matter. Basically, Savvyjack is trying to hinge everything on "Haitian" because that has been, I think, on of their pet subjects. Just as we do not assume caste or religion is inherited from parents, so we should not do here unless he self-identifies a preference. Some cases are simple, sure, but this one is not. - Sitush (talk) 21:36, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

English of Haitian descent, English of Scottish descent*. I'm sorry for my foul language Sitush, that was very uncharacteristic of me; my emotion have gotten the best of me. Again Sitush, I think you are being prejudice with that statement. It is not a "pet peeve," rather an editor with an interest to improve pages, specifically the most underdeveloped in the Caribbean and so Haiti has been a start. There is nothing wrong with that. Thanks for your input Wikicology. Savvyjack23 (talk) 10:47, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm getting confused myself now! Does he identify as English? IIRC, he spent time in Haiti as a child; he certainly spent time in Scotland (I knew his dad, years ago, although I've never met Nick). Plenty of people are born in one place but do not consider themselves to be of it and, given the present hoo-hah regarding possible independence for Scotland, I'd be very wary of labelling him as English unless he says he is. I think you'd be better with a category called "People of part-Haitian descent" etc, although I still really don't see the point and I know from past discussions at the Village Pump that many others also do not see the point. - Sitush (talk) 10:59, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Dominica help[edit]

Hi savvyjack... could you kindly please change Dominica's capital to "Roseau" because that's the correct capital of my sweet country Dominica the West Indies. Thank you and much appreciated. It's not Dominica Capital: Dominica — Preceding unsigned comment added by Queenlady12 (talkcontribs) 14:08, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Sure Queenlady12, but where did you see this? I looked on the Dominica article, it says the capital is Roseau. Savvyjack23 (talk) 15:37, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

French overseas regions flags and logos[edit]

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M-le-mot-dit, I am perfectly aware of that; more than 100%. However, their official flag is le tricolore, not the unofficial ones being used to fill these infoboxes. These are all French dependancies; not independent. Its as if saying these people are no longer a part of France and are no longer French. Until it becomes official, it should not be used to represent these following countries. The talk page is available for further discussion. Savvyjack23 (talk) 07:37, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Plus, I didn't put the flag on Guadeloupe, I only put the coat of arms because it was already there. In other words, somebody other than myself agrees with me. Savvyjack23 (talk) 07:50, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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Haiti Place Name Difficultly[edit]

Thanks so much for your help so far. I really appreciate it. Hope I didn't come of hostile during our last exchange. I am still a bit of a newbie and can get confused/frustrated sometimes. Anyways, I came into a problem with Cornillon, Cornillon, Ouest. It is the town of Cornillon in the Cornillon Municipality (Commune) in Haiti. There are locations in France called "Cornillon" so I wasn't sure if I should have named it "Cornillon, Cornillon, Ouest, Haiti" or simply "Cornillon, Haiti". The article name for the municipality (commune) is Cornillon, Ouest which IS proper form. Any ideas of what the proper naming should be for the town? I think I should have named it "Cornillon, Haiti" but did not want to move it again with out being sure. Thanks a bunch~!(Michashadders (talk) 09:13, 6 September 2014 (UTC))

No not at all Michashadders! I actually just saw your reply on your page. I didn't know you responded, I must have missed it in my watch-page feed. (Notice how I used your user name to start my sentence. It sends your a red alert saying someone is contacting you; since we are on my talk page now. Just a few tricks I've picked up along the way ;)) So I had to take a breather from updating the other day. It was getting more and more difficult. You are correct about La Source having 29 places in Haiti. That is crazy. When it gets to that point, I think we will have to add both department and Arrondissement, along with the Haiti. As for the same town name as commune (municipality) such as Cornillon. Perhaps it should end like this Cornillon, Cornillon, Ouest, Haiti. It depends though is there 29 Cornillon, Cornillon(s) like there is in "La Source?" If not maybe it can just be "Cornillon, Cornillon, Haiti." I can clearly see the difficulty trying to more-or-less "decipher" these. My advice is to try to stick with what we have planned, do your best and hopefully we can take care of these minor troubles later. If you don't mind moving some of those created pages, would be awesome. Especially if there are multiply repeated names for places, it is almost imperative that we do our best classifying them. Also, great job with your dedication geocoding lesser known locations for a GIS project on clean water. No wonder why coming on here was a breeze (lol). I'm glad you are onboard with us. I actually have an amazing source for the mountain peaks and ranges. I'll pass it along when I find it; I was surprised to find such a good one. Savvyjack23 (talk) 20:01, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Football importance[edit]

Please read Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Assessment#Importance scale before assessing any more football-related articles, Talk:Kevin Lafrance is not a 'high' importance article... GiantSnowman 10:57, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Also noted at Talk:Jean Alexandre, Talk:Kervens Belfort and Talk:Jeff Louis, and those are just the ones I've come across on my watchlist! GiantSnowman 11:00, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Understood. There's no need for the exclamation point. I can always just revert them if you'd like me to. Didn't realize the criteria. Savvyjack23 (talk) 11:04, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

No problems, no need to revert yourself - your other changes and tagging are fine and welcome, it's just these WP:FOOTY ones that have a few kinks. GiantSnowman 12:04, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Keep up the good work. Savvyjack23 (talk) 12:07, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Ant images[edit]

Hi Savvyjack23,

May I ask way you keep moving the images on Apterostigma electropilosum, Apterostigma eowilsoni and Acanthognathus poinari into the taxoboxes?--Kevmin § 01:23, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Aren't they pictures of the proposed species? Isn't that why "image=" is in the infobox? Savvyjack23 (talk) 01:24, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Nope, as noted with the captions, and in the text, the images are of related living species, which are similar to the extinct species the articles are on. That is why I reverted you the first time. If we ever get CC3 images for the actual fossils those can go into the taxobox.--Kevmin § 01:30, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh my mistake. I must have overlooked that. Thanks. Savvyjack23 (talk) 01:31, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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"Thriving"[edit]

Hi, I was wondering why you reverted my edits on Saint-Domingue. Yes the quotation marks does make it sound questionable. Indeed there is considerable doubt as regards the matter. Profitable yes, but only if regard the lives of the enslaved Africans as being of little value. As subsequent effects proved, these Africans did have more than doubts as to whether they were thriving and overthrew the slave owners regime. Perhaps we should us ethe word profitable rather tha thriving. Would you be happy with that?Leutha (talk) 20:23, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes Leutha, good point. I believe profitable would be suffice. Savvyjack23 (talk) 22:44, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

List of Haitians[edit]

I was attempting to ensure that future entries (as well as past ones) were cited when I added template cn to the "models" subsection. Each article in Wikipedia is stand-alone. We can't justify any article with either a footnote to another Wikipedia article (newbies try) or links (even you are trying, apparently!).

I think you can appreciate that I can't document article "Student7", link it to yet a second article, which in turn, links back to "List of Famous Editors". While all are linked, none of them contain any citationa at all! But even if I managed to find a WP:RS somewhere, they would have to be actually inserted into all three articles (or whatever) to make them "valid." A stranded RS somewhere does not an encyclopedia make. I don't doubt the notability. I do doubt the direct attachment to Haiti, which has been missing in the past. I don't like the idea of me looking them all up or copying them. Really up to the inserter. Thanks.

Another "little" problem for this article is whether (or not) the person is known outside of Haiti. Otherwise they should go into provincial article notables. I'll have to leave that up to someone else, except for obvious ones like "Miss Haiti" or the Mayor of Port-au-Prince." Student7 (talk) 00:43, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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Just wanted to thank you for all the work you've been doing on various Haiti articles! Student7 (talk) 17:51, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Student7, your gratitude is highly appreciated. Savvyjack23 (talk) 20:10, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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Stone[edit]

Changing categories to mark them as containera and then immediately doing this is perhaps not a great idea. Particularly in circumstances where you have been clearly trying to push the connection for months now. But I'll live with it if it means you'll stop messing about POV-y types of edits on that article. - Sitush (talk) 06:34, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Sitush I am not changing it to my liking. These are indeed container categories; just noticed it since you were the one to essentially bring me to these pages. If you'd like I'll change them all! A category like this should not have taken six months to solve. It wasn't as difficult as you tired to make it seem. If it is correct, how is that pushing? Savvyjack23 (talk) 06:46, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

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Ogun[edit]

Alafia,

My apologies for improperly moving the Ogun article - I am new and still learning how to properly contribute to Wikipedia (this is no excuse as I should have studied before attempting to move an article). However, I would like to note that Ogun is by far a more common way of spelling the Orichá's name; this is the standard spelling for Yoruba, Spanish, and Portuguese traditions, while Ogoun seems to be the standard in French tradition. Omo Obatalá (talk) 19:22, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Welcome Omo Obatalá,

All is forgiven. I realized that "Ogun" is the more popular spelling so I requested that the article be moved into "Ogun," which I had freed up as it was a disambiguous page. So when that change happens, I think it is good to maintain both primary spellings in correspdance to both orisha and loa. Savvyjack23 (talk) 11:05, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Haiti Project[edit]

Hi. For the record, I didn't remove the Haiti Project. This was done automatically by the script. This is a bug in the script that I will report shortly. --Meno25 (talk) 07:46, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Ohhh okay Meno25. Yes I thought that was a bit strange. Please disregard my message I left on your talk. Happy editing! Savvyjack23 (talk) 07:56, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Pleased to know you. I have reported the bug in script here. Cheers. --Meno25 (talk) 08:02, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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Edit warring at Ulises Heureaux[edit]

Please see the result of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Virgrod reported by User:Savvyjack23 (Result: Both warned) which contains warnings for both you and User:Virgrod. Continued reverting may lead to blocks. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:31, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

EdJohnston, what I do not understand, is the original work used by this user and the use of my references to support his false claims. What exactly am I being warned for? I provided the sources, it was confirmed by another user of this original work being done. Am I being warned for restoration to the article to how it originally was? This user is blatantly ignoring the conversation and proposal of the talk, and is in direct violation of WP:OR and just removal is warranted. I do not appreciate my time being wasted especially when I made the effort to track down these sources. Savvyjack23 (talk) 18:45, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
The edit warring noticeboard is not going to block people for violating WP:SYNTH. Whether something is SYNTH is up to consensus. You need to get others to agree with you somewhere that your version is better. One way to get other opinions is WP:3O. Other options are in WP:Dispute resolution. If you simply continue to revert you are risking a block. EdJohnston (talk) 19:09, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Okay EdJohnston, thanks for the additional information. Savvyjack23 (talk) 19:13, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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MIA[edit]

You never need to apologize for that. It's all volunteering here. There is no time limit here. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:57, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

By the way, there is nothing wrong with creating Méringue (dance) that's just a sentence for now. That way, others can make it grow with their own sources. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:29, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Edit Request for Angelica Fuentes Wikipedia Page[edit]

Hi, I've added a request to add several new sections to the Angelica Fuentes Wikipedia page under the "Talk" tab and was wondering if you would be able to update the page with the updated information. She is attending Davos (World Economic Forum) next year and we want to make sure that updated information is on her page in case anyone looks her up. Thank you! Cvillasmil (talk) 21:13, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

You need to add the "request edit" template that you have included here, to the Angelica Fuentes talk page. I've taken the liberty of removing the tag from here, as this page is showing up in the edit request queue and there's nothing to edit here. Wilipino (talk) 02:16, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the letting me know! I've updated accordingly. Cvillasmil (talk) 01:56, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Holidays![edit]

Erick, thank you for your holiday wishes! Hope you had a wonderful holiday season yourself. I wish you all the best moving forward in 20-15! (Sorry for the belated response!)

Sincerely, Savvyjack23 (talk) 17:43, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Piracy[edit]

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Hi Savvyjack23, I saw your edits to Laurens de Graaf and your user page which says you're interested in the Caribbean and in Haiti in particular. Thought I might extend to you an invite to join WikiProject Piracy. There aren't many active members but I've been working on articles for some events that aren't currently covered here and I think there are some for Haiti that need creation. Anyway, feel free to put your name down and let me know if there is anything I can help with. Cheers, Stlwart111 11:24, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Stalwart111, sorry I'm late for the party. Piracy is a very intriguing subject as the country of Haiti was founded by French buccaneers, with a stronghold up north at Tortuga. I will contribute anyway that I can, however I will not officially join the project, as I am against favoritism. I am essentially running the WikiProject Haiti page and revamped it entirely but have not joined it either. Strange, but that's just me. Likewise, let me know if I can help out on anything. Anyhow, keep up the good work. Cheers! Savvyjack23 (talk) 22:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Perfectly fine - we'll appreciate your contributions either way. Keep up the great work! Stlwart111 00:17, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Sorcerer Supreme[edit]

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Thanks, ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:58, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the note ONUnicorn. My question though however is, why is it tagged for deletion? Savvyjack23 (talk) 22:16, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Take a look at the deletion discussion. As it stands, the article is little more than a dictionary-type definition of the term, and cites no reliable sources. It doesn't appear (to me at least, at this point) to be an article that could really be expanded beyond a simple definition. There are articles on the Marvel Universe, which mention and define the term, and articles on characters who have held that position, so perhaps (as someone suggested in the deletion discussion) it merits a re-direct, but I'm not seeing how it merits a full article.
That said, feel free to go over to the deletion discussion and comment on why you think it does merit a full article. Also, if you have reliable sources and plans to expand it beyond a simple definition of the term, feel free to improve the article, and I may withdraw the nomination. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 22:54, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

ONUnicorn, I'm afraid you may be right about this. It appears as a simple definition. However, there is a history in the comic books to go along with the title, as Sorcerer Supreme was past onto a few characters. Savvyjack23 (talk) 23:03, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Mawon[edit]

I merged Mawon with Maroon. Face-smile.svg Omo Obatalá (talk) 03:04, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Face-smile.svg thanks Omo_Obatalá for the good faith but unfortunately, we cannot actually blank the page; we need to get an admin make the move. The argument (policy) is that the editors history from that page (who are owners of those contributions and permission was not granted for their work to decease essentially) is lost and doesn't merge with the page it was supposed to merge into (weird I know, I've had my copy and pastes repaired and I was notified about this too when I started). See WP:CPMV about it. I'll add this to the page to get an admin to merge histories. [Histmerge|NAME OF PAGE THE ARTICLE WAS CUT FROM] Savvyjack23 (talk) 03:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Thanks for letting me know! Omo Obatalá (talk) 03:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Order of Haiti[edit]

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Thank you for your contribution to Haitian-related articles. Omo Obatalá (talk) 04:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Caribbean music vandal case page[edit]

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Tag[edit]

You can tag this page too if you want - not sure how to do the project stuff myself. Earflaps (talk) 10:57, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Awesome thanks! Sure, I'll take care of the tagging for you, no worries. Savvyjack23 (talk) 16:19, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Flornight, thank you for thanking me for thanking you! I've added the star to my main page Face-smile.svg Happy editing! Savvyjack23 (talk) 15:32, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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Victory SC[edit]

What on earth are you talking about. It doesn't help to template people without explaining what you are talking about by pointing out an article in question. Fenix down (talk) 16:31, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Fenix down, right now that page needs to be deleted. It was originally served as a redirect when it was moved to the Victory Sports Club article. Since unoccupied, it was then used for the Haiti's team (Victory Sportif Club) via copy and paste. It needs to be deleted so that the pages history gets moved as well.

Yes edit war. You are repeatedly moving around pages without discussion. Now my original argument against the move to Victory SC (Haiti) was as follows:

"There is no reason for a page move since there are no other articles to occupy this page. In all else a disambiguation called Victory SC (disambiguation) could be made if the name becomes overwhelming. To note, this team was founded in 1947. The Maldives team you are advocating for already occupies the "Victory Sports Club" article and was founded in 1971. A similar situation happened when I attempted to move Gingerbread house to Gingerbread house (food), to use the Gingerbread house for the architectural style of housing. I was soon corrected by User:Hafspajen that there was no previous discussion and also advised that my new article use the Gingerbread house (architecture) article since "the food" was created long before the architectural style. User:Yngvadottir also suggested a disambiguation be made if necessary. The only difference here is that, we came to a quick resolution. What's ours? I suggest the maldives page stay where it is or moved to Victory SC (Maldives)."

I'll let the template "people" do what they do best. They will know what to do, I've explained it to the best of my ability. Savvyjack23 (talk) 16:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

I am not an expert on how we deal with team names, and I am slightly unsure here. Might be different. But you should discuss this further. . Savvyjack23 idea seems reasonable to me, though. Hafspajen (talk) 16:52, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Kelapstick maybe can help? I have a feeling he knows more about it. Hafspajen (talk) 16:53, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback Hafspajen. Savvyjack23 (talk) 16:55, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Moving something without discussion isn't an edit war. Please do not place inflammatory and wholly incorrect templates on my talk page again. Fenix down (talk) 16:59, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Who, me? Hafspajen (talk) 17:04, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Fenix down, moves are considered edits and you moved the page twice. Actually removing a warning template from your own talk page is considered vandalism (see: Wikipedia:Removing warnings) You've been editing since 09' and I am lecturing you on this? I'll also do what I have to, thanks. No, the user was referring to me Hafspajen. Savvyjack23 (talk) 17:07, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. I left a talkback on Kelapstick page, he was online earlier today. He is a nice admin. Hafspajen (talk) 17:09, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Fenix down, you edits were also unproductive. You move a page to leave the old one as a redirect for the new page without any other page to take its place. Your reasons for locality Victory SC (Haiti) are redundant. However, now I have discovered that the page has to be properly deleted, since it moved to Victory Sports Club and for Victory Sportif Club to assume the unoccupied page. So if everyone just moved a page without a discussion, there would be total chaos. Am I really filling you in on this? Savvyjack23 (talk) 17:12, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Hafspajen. Hope to resolve this matter Godspeed. Savvyjack23 (talk) 17:14, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
You need to have a close look at my contribution page where you'll see I moved it only once, the two edits are the article and the talk page which happens automatically when you use twinkle. You also need to look at the template at the top of WP:Removing warnings to see that it is not a guideline and is retained only for historical purposes, so you shouldn't go telling editors what to do based on it. Fenix down (talk) 17:15, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Your contributions: [4] First move: [5] Second move: [6]

I don't know about Twinkle, but this is in your contributions history. I'm also not telling editors a thing, rather you are telling me not to leave warning templates on your talk page. Savvyjack23 (talk) 17:23, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

And like I said, and like my contribution history clearly states one move is the article and the other is the talk page. In no way is this moving the article twice. You need to pay much closer attention to what you are doing as if you had done you would have seen this. This would have meant you would not have posted a wholly incorrect and potentially inflammatory template on someone's talk page and then, when told not to (since you were wrong to do so in the first place) you would not have pointed to a page where it is clearly stated the arguments within run contrary to current consensus in a brightly coloured box at the top! Fenix down (talk) 17:37, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Stop. There were two moves, and please refrain from shouting. Thanks.

  • 03:45, 31 January 2015 (diff | hist) . . (0)‎ . . m Talk:Victory SC ‎ (Fenix down moved page Talk:Victory SC to Talk:Victory SC (Haiti) over redirect: geographical clarification)
  • 03:45, 31 January 2015 (diff | hist) . . (0)‎ . . m Victory SC ‎ (Fenix down moved page Victory SC to Victory SC (Haiti) over redirect: geographical clarification)
  • 14:27, 30 January 2015 (diff | hist) . . (0)‎ . . m Talk:Victory SC ‎ (Fenix down moved page Talk:Victory SC to Talk:Victory SC (Haiti): Also a Victory SC in Maldives)
  • 14:27, 30 January 2015 (diff | hist) . . (0)‎ . . m Victory SC ‎ (Fenix down moved page Victory SC to Victory SC (Haiti): Also a Victory SC in Maldives)

Savvyjack23 (talk) 17:42, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

You're quite right, I apologise. I had completely forgotten about yesterday's move. If I had I would not have moved it again. That's quite embarrassing for and obviously I retract my comments above. I can assure you I wasn't edit warring though and nor was I shouting (not sure where you got that one from). You do need to avoid using out of date essays though when telling people what's what and it would have been helpful to add a note to the initial template you posted to make things clear from the start. Sorry again. Fenix down (talk) 17:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate your apology Fenix down and happily accept it as well. I will also do my best to make things perfectly clear from the start, I regret if I wasn't clear enough. Thank you for all your contributions starting from 09'. Let's continue to improve Wikipedia! (I took the exclamation point the wrong way before I guess.) Savvyjack23 (talk) 17:58, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for accepting my apology, that second move will teach me not to edit when half asleep at half three in the morning! Fenix down (talk) 18:13, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

List of People from Haiti[edit]

Thank you for all your contributions to Haiti articles.

You must have noticed the edit warning when entering new persons on the List of People from Haiti. (I didn't put it there!). It warns about inserting peoples names (among other things), without citations which determine their crediblity for association with this list per WP:NLIST and WP:LISTPEOPLE. It would be so much easier to insert this when the entry is made. If someone doesn't do this sooner, I will (eventually) rm entries without citations. The warning message says it can be done immediately. Other editors (therefore) may have more stringent deadlines. Thanks. Student7 (talk) 16:29, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Okay, at some point today everyone will be cited. Savvyjack23 (talk) 18:12, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Renaming of place name articles[edit]

Hello Savvyjack23, thanks for bringing the place names up to snuff. Please also don't forget to rename the links that go to these articles, when you rename them. See Wikipedia #talk:WikiProject HaitiPlace names in Haiti. — Sebastian 09:05, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder; will do! Savvyjack23 (talk) 11:52, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for inviting me to the Haiti Wiki project. I think this is a great idea. Can I invite others who might be interested? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jistis (talkcontribs) 04:05, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome Jistis! Yes, as a member you are entitled to invite whomever you want who may be interested in Haiti (or Saint-Domingue). There is no limit. I look forward to the ultimate improvement on the project and its articles across the board. Again, welcome. Face-smile.svg Savvyjack23 (talk) 04:19, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

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Picture of Aristide before election[edit]

It doesn't seem right showing a picture of a future president, except, of course, in his own article. Like showing a picture of Abe Lincoln splitting logs in the article Emancipation Proclamation or showing George Washington throwing a quarter across the Rappahanock in an article about the French and Indian War. Or in History of the United States, showing Barack Obama on a surfboard in Hawaii. It's anomalous.

Showing Aristide when he was president may be WP:UNDUE as well, but that is another story. Student7 (talk) 21:41, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Understood Student7, but the premise speaks of him as a priest turned president. I see nothing wrong with showing the former if it is included in an appropriate context. An example of a wrong context would be to have this picture in his infobox like it does right now. Savvyjack23 (talk) 21:48, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
I can appreciate the reasoning behind showing him as a priest. Nevertheless, he effectively eclipsed his ecclesiastical career by running successfully for secular office. Again, it would be like portraying Dwight Eisenhower, golfing, in a history of the US. Or Franklin Roosevelt recovering from polio at Campobello in the same article. Or, closer to the point, Martelly singing professionally. Student7 (talk) 22:09, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I see your point. Savvyjack23 (talk) 22:15, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

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Toussaint Coffee Liqueur[edit]

Thanks for creating Toussaint Coffee Liqueur. I have expanded it some, and it is now nominated for a Did you know entry on main page at Template:Did you know nominations/Toussaint Coffee Liqueur. North America1000 00:18, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome North America Face-smile.svg. Thanks for the added sections and the "did you know nomination." Awesome! Savvyjack23 (talk) 04:28, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Toussaint Coffee Liqueur[edit]

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Torre Caney[edit]

The third paragraph of the List of tallest structures in the United States can help you with this changes[7][8]. Osplace 02:59, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Osplace, I get what you are saying. So there is a difference between structures and buildings? (If so, I fudged up) I've noticed the majority of them deal in communications. However, why is the One World Trade Center listed (See: List of tallest structures in the United States#New York)? Isn't this a mistake? Savvyjack23 (talk) 03:52, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Dear Savvyjack23, that is simple, because structure is a wider term. An antenna is not a building, they cannot be listed in a list of tallest buildings. Nonetheless, antennas and buildings can both be listed under structures. I hope this explanation satisfies your question. Osplace 12:49, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

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A kitten for you![edit]

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Hello Savvyjack - I am sending you a kitten because you have an appreciation for my pictures. 8^)

I've recently attended a Haiti vs. Honduras futbol match. I'm going to be posting several more pictures of Haitian's in a few days. If you could go back and categorize some of my images better - that would be awesome.

Regards,

Warren

Warren Fish (talk) 03:10, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Wonderful! Sure, I look forward to help categorize your photos. Keep up the good work Warrenfish! Thanks! Savvyjack23 (talk) 05:44, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Sunday August 2: WikNYC Picnic[edit]

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This Land of Ours[edit]

Hi Savvyjack! Regarding this song, we need to establish whether the lyrics are copyrighted or not. British copyright law specifies a work is in copyright for 70 years after the death of the author. In this case, the author died in 1968. There are other quirks of copyright that I will investigate, so any help in determining its status is most appreciated. In particular, what did you mean by "The lyrics are to be copied verbatim"? Thanks! CrowCaw 20:48, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do Crow. About that statement, a Bot doesn't recognize whether these lyrics are under British copyright law, so naturally it flagged it when the lyrics were copied and pasted "verbatim" (word-for-word). We're talking about "lyrics", not a article from an excerpt about XYZ. I cannot paraphrase lyrics to a song to compensate for a BOT's lack of situational awareness. What else would I have meant by that statement? Savvyjack23 (talk) 21:17, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the reply, and you are quite correct about the bot. The reason I asked was that it was hypothesized that perhaps the lyrics are freely released but only when copied verbatim. Continuing to investigate. Thanks again! CrowCaw 21:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Oh okay, gotcha. You're welcome and thank you for bringing this to my attention. Savvyjack23 (talk) 21:24, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you for the invite[edit]

Thanks for the invite. I do not have particular interest in these topics, nor am I a professional in the area. I simply saw a few inaccuracies and corrected them.

I have quite a few friends who have been (some still are) in Haiti providing help to the less fortunate people. F1eahr (talk) 03:26, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Because of your endeavor and devotion shown on your contributions in articles in the scope of WikiProject Haiti. Nacho (Talk page) ★ 08:54, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Candy Lalanne[edit]

The article absolutely indicates he left Haiti with American citizenship - "One day in late August, they were called to the embassy. More paperwork, they thought. A few hours later, they left with passports and Social Security numbers." do you have a source that says he is a Haititan citizen? Do you think he left with a Haitian passport that cleared things up? Rikster2 (talk) 02:37, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Rikster2, it says "Oak Ridge alum Cady Lalanne stuck in Haiti for months after finding out at 18, he was an illegal immigrant." "he was deported to Haiti; born in Haiti; left at the age of 7" That is clear evidence that he was a citizen of that country. While it says that he was given a passport and SSN, it doesn't explicity say American. What if he never had a "Haitian passport" since arriving by boat to the US but obtained one (to allow him to travel legally) and received a SSN due to permanent residency status filed at the US embassey in Haiti. The details are not clear and there aren't any sources that mention him being an American. It also mentions that his mother became "legal" when she married an American. Again doesn't mention citizenship for her either. Savvyjack23 (talk) 03:21, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

if you are given a passport and SSN, you are at least a dual citizen. Again, where is the source saying he is solely Haitian? The source goes out of its way to say the immigration issue was cleared up. At worst he is dual. Rikster2 (talk) 03:27, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Okay dual is not beyond the realm of possibility. Its just that the source is unclear on what embassy in Haiti. Yes it says he left with a passport and SSN, but it could have been a Haitian passport and a SSN would come with residency filing to allow him back in the states. There are so many questions like, why was he deported? (Okay he was illegal but...) Why couldn't he handle the paperwork in the US? It just sounds a lot like permanent residency to me, by mentioning "legal" and "illegal". The article seems like it goes out of its way to NOT mention him being "American" and/or a "citizen". It's incredibly vague. Savvyjack23 (talk) 03:43, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

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August 19: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday August 19, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities.

After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street

Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 15:59, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

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