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Welcome (January 2012)[edit]


Hello, Sawol, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Moonraker (talk) 05:46, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Railway stations[edit]

List now moved to this section on my User page.

I wonder[edit]

List now moved to this section on my User page.

Football squad[edit]

List now moved to this section on my User page.


Hi Sawol, Any idea what policy is on use of Hangul in band names? I asked a question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea#Removal of Hangul In ictu oculi (talk) 02:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


Hey, you just moved Kujang (Indian town) to Kujang (Odisha). But, ain`t there two entities Kujang in India, one TOWN, and one TEHSIL (sort of a sub district)? Regards, Gott 02:35, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for visiting. I saw [1]. I think it will be fine without such two thing. If you want, do divide two entities. Sawol (talk) 02:48, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Why did you changed former Miss Korea winner's name?[edit]

You changed Miss Korea 2008 Na Ri and 2009 Kim Joo-ri's name. Na Ri did not compete as Na Ree in Miss Universe 2009. And Kim Joo-ri is not Kim Joo-Ri.

I will change again soon. Because my version is right. --Spatronic (talk) 16:13, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I didn't change Kim Joo-ri. I changed Na Ree. I found youtube's material. Show me that Na Ri is correct. Sawol (talk) 08:36, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:Poland U–19 Squad 1998 Quarée–Cup[edit]

The nominator did not tag the template for deletion - this is not the first time this has happened, I'm going to propose a topic ban. GiantSnowman 12:56, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

I edited this page [2], because of templates with the same attribute. Am I in the wrong process of adding one more? Sawol (talk) 13:04, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Free Agent[edit]

What are you doing? When a player is a free agent it is supposed to say that he is a free agent in the infobox.--Yankees10 06:43, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

There is no such usage at Template:Infobox MLB player#Usage. Sawol (talk) 06:49, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
That doesn't matter. I've been here since 2006 and for as long as i've been here free agent has gone in the infobox.--Yankees10 07:13, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
It is necessary to indicate easily that the player is not yet retired.Spanneraol (talk) 12:30, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, Sawol. I see your changes on some author pages I've been putting up... though those author names are NOT "proper" Romanization, as you clearly saw, they are the Romanizations that the authors have chosen and requested at the Korean Literature Translation Institute. You can see those Romanizations (some of which are quite weird) here: Ccmontgom (talk) 11:03, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

User:Ccmontgom. Thank you for visiting. Refer to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean). What is the proper Romanization? If you have another opinion, achieve consensus on that through Wikipedia:Requested moves. Sawol (talk) 12:19, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sawol.. Thanks for that link. l . I did look at the naming conventions and the first thing they say is:

1) Common usage in English. LTI Korea which is the government agency responsible for Korean author names, working with the authors when they can, is creating the common usages that the authors request - This database is giving Korea the preferred common uses because, if you look at many of the names, the common uses are multiple and have been made up randomly by foreign publishers (thank God the Wikipedia allows alternate names to be listed, that helps a great deal). These lbiguide "common usages" by the way, also reflect the Romanizations the author's want (in the cases that authors are still around to say). To not use this resource which is precisely in place to bolster common usages seems odd. What Wikipedia seems to be doing here, and with Korean government backed evidence that the authors don't want it, is automatically assigning rote Romanizations even when they sound infelicitous, or are actively opposed by the authors as demonstrated by their personal Romanizations on the Korean libguide. It confuses me that this seems even questionable. There are people who want their names spelled they way they want them, they have indicated this through the Korean government in a document that is instantly accessible and linkable. Why wouldn't we here at Wikipedia honor their preferences? Preferences, for that matter, communicated by the same government in charge of all Romanization?

Thanks for, I hope, working through that nearly tl/dr

I'll also, I think, have another question for you as you seem to have accurately tagged Seo-jong-ju for a copy and paste. But it's a copy and paste from an LTI Korea Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported page which should allow complete copy and pasting if we wanted to. And we very much do want to.^^ So I'm guessing I'm unaware of how I should indicate that largely unchanged text is being used with copyright permission? Is it use of attribution? I've looked at a couple dozen attribution templates, but none seems appropriate. Oh well, if you don't have the answer I can dig more..

Ccmontgom (talk) 16:12, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Ccmontgom (talk) 16:12, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

November 2013[edit]

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User page[edit]

Hi Sawol. Well, they said Be bold - hope you don't mind the changes above and on your User page. Feel free to revert my changes, of course. The reason I made them was to demonstrate how most Wikipedians use their User page for their interests, and keep their Talk page just for talking to other editors. That way, it keeps things separated and neater. I do hope you agree. It also makes your User name - Sawol - blue, rather than red, so now that suggests you are an experienced user, rather than a user whose name is still in red (which yours had been). If you choose to reply here, I'll be sure to read it. Thanks, Trafford09 (talk) 12:20, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Geyon[edit]

Hello Sawol. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Geyon, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not a recently created redirect - consider WP:RfD. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 12:55, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Changes to Korean Author Names?[edit]

Sawol - I notice that you are changing Korean author names to "standard" Romanization. In this case, however, the changes should not be made as the author names on the pages reflect how the authors spell their names in English. This is reflected on the Korean Literature Authors Name Authority Database (created by the Korean government), which you can see here:

Changing the Romanization in these cases makes the Wikipedia pages inaccurate as it incorrectly represents the author names. In this case, shouldn't the Wikipedia respect the names of the authors?

Ccmontgom (talk) 21:36, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

My moves is not the standard Romanization. I followed the Wikipedia polices and guidelines. I know that the Wikipedia pages should reflect naming conventions (Wikipedia:Article titles). English Wikipedia prefers the name that is most commonly used (Wikipedia:Article titles#Use commonly recognizable names). Wikipedia doesn't prefer the author's chosen spelling of their name in English. And Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean) shows that Chung Ho Sung is incorrect, Chung Ho-sung is correct. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters shows Chyung JinKyu is incorrect, Chyung Jinkyu is correct. If you want to collect many people's opinions, achieve consensus on that through Wikipedia:Requested moves. Sawol (talk) 07:45, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Changes to Korean Names[edit]

I have reverted several of your changes to disambiguation pages where the articles within them do not match the new page title. Please use the WP:RM process if you think that these articles are incorrectly titled. Thanks. Tassedethe (talk) 05:32, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Tongyeong–Daejeon Expressway[edit]

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Korean sports player naming[edit]

Hi, I found that Korean sports player naming orthography is changed by new consensus. I have a question. Does correct all person name on pages by manually or Can you correct them by bot? There are so many articles to correct.Footwiks (talk) 02:41, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for visiting my talk page. I am moving Korean athletes' pages manually. I don't know how to use the bot. I don't know whether moving these pages is able to be processed by the bot or not. Sawol (talk) 04:38, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

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Naming of South Korean fencers[edit]

Hi! I see you have requested the move of several South Korean sportspeople's pages to the correct style. Unfortunately many pages in Category:South Korean fencers are badly capitalized. I've moved some of them by hand, but there are quite a lot. I don't know the procedure to ask for a mass renaming, so I though I'd bring it to your attention. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:04, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Move request[edit]

Am I missing something? This template is on the talk page, not the article page: Talk:Kim Na-young (judoka)--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:11, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

I want to fit the article page to its talk page. I am using the general type. Sawol (talk) 10:06, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


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Looks like you and I had the same idea at the same time for 2014–15 FIS Ski Jumping World Cup. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 06:04, 28 May 2014 (UTC)


Hi. Could those that do not change what I have published thus make mistakes in what I posted, which is properly done. nn94_14 (talk) 10:02, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

A nice cup of tea for you![edit]

Meissen-teacup pinkrose01.jpg Thank you for your edits in the -do stubs. I just learned the words for west and east! Believe me, when you don't know Korean, and as long as both Google Translate and Bing are as daft as they currently are, any little edit is a challenge for me. Face-smile.svg Best, Sam Sailor Sing 13:56, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Evangelical Baptist Church of Korea#Clarification needed[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Evangelical Baptist Church of Korea#Clarification needed. Thanks. Sam Sailor Sing 08:52, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

People Express[edit]

The page cannot be moved as the destination page already exists. I was correcting a botched page move by an inexperienced editor. Harry the Dog WOOF 10:05, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

The page can be moved. Wait for a WP:ADMIN action. Sawol (talk) 10:26, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
I assume you have requested this? If so I'll wait. The problem is that a lot of pages (like People Express) redirect to People Express Airlines, so circular redirects were being created by the original page mover. Restoring the original situation as quickly as possible seemed for the best. Harry the Dog WOOF 10:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

청원구청, 서원구청[edit]

제대론 된 사진이 있으므로 구 흥덕구청이나 구 상당구청의 사진으로 대용하지 마세요.--H.L.LEE (talk) 21:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Technical move request[edit]

Regarding this request, please see the move discussion at Template talk:2010-11 in Indonesian football. Personally I would do the move, but we need to wait for a consensus. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 15:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

See the closure of this move discussion. While the move has been done, one of the editors pointed out that it's better to just create a redirect in cases like this. Template names aren't externally visible to our readers, so making all the dashes stylistically correct doesn't matter. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 23:20, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

fazlur khan[edit]

hello there, redirect fazlur khan to fazlur rahman khan please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zorozro (talkcontribs) 08:14, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

I cannot. Wait for a WP:ADMIN action. Sawol (talk) 08:17, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

then leave the fazlur rahman khan article the way it is. do not delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zorozro (talkcontribs) 08:19, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

US roads move[edit]

Congratulations on achieving something that we tough t might never happen! All the best: Rich Farmbrough00:37, 5 August 2014 (UTC).

You are a big help. Thank you. Sawol (talk) 01:34, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Kim Jin-kyu[edit]

As you know, I'm Korean. Kim Jin-kyu is old actor and not famous. Acutually, Football Kim Jin-kyu had more notability. He appeared FIFA World Cup. Please refer to Korean Wikipedia. ko:김진규 (축구 선수) and ko:김진규 (배우).Footwiks (talk)

We need to keep the page history with the page. Sawol (talk) 10:38, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Kim Eun-jung[edit]

Hi,,Please arrange many Kim Eun-jung

footballer Kim Eun-jung is the most notable person. Kim Eun-jung (curler) and Kim Eun-jung (writer) even didn't have Korean Wikipedia article.

Kim Eun-jung (footballer) => Kim Eun-jung
Kim Eun-jung => Kim Eun-jung (disambiguation)

Thanks 11:02, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

I think so, too. I hope that you open the WP:RM discussion at Talk:Kim Eun-jung (footballer). Thanks. Sawol (talk) 11:16, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

2012 NBL (Australia) All-Star Game[edit]

Please do not invent event names to fit your perceptions of what an event name should be. --Falcadore (talk) 13:01, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


Hi, just noted that was a sock Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kauffner. I have asked closer to reopen and relist. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:56, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Park Gwang-il[edit]

Park Gwang-il is correct. Indian Super League profile was wrong. Refer to Korean Football Association profile. KFA profile English name is based on passport name. KFA profile name is most reliable source. Please believe me. [3] Footwiks (talk) 13:24, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

1. Follow Wikipedia:Moving a page#How to move a page. Give a reason for the move. Nobody knows why you moved pages although you followed
2. And Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's official name; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources (Wikipedia:Article titles#Use commonly recognizable names). I think that and are also reliable sources. Above all, he calls himself Park Kwang-il ( Sawol (talk) 03:22, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

2014 Asian Games[edit]

Do you mind updating missing sub-articles of the Shooting at the 2014 Asian Games and the other disciplines of this games? JackHoang (talk) 13:12, 21 September 2014 (UTC)


대구의 지하철역을 대표 표제어로 할 이유 없습니다. 한국어판도 대표 표제어로 하고 있지 않고요. 이유 없이 돌리지 마세요. Kanghuitari (talk) 03:44, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

A problem with your editing style has been reported[edit]

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Edit reversions on Korean baseball players[edit]

Hi there, I noticed that you had reverted some of my edits on the pages of some Haitai Tigers players (believe I spelled that right). I've seen it pop up a couple of times in the non-empty redirected categories category, so if there's something up with that specific category and you could explain it to me I'd be grateful. Thanks spiderjerky (talk) 04:38, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

A user Fetx2002 is the sole judge concerning category merging User talk:Fetx2002#Category:MBC Chungyong players. We need a full discussion WP:CFD. I understand your edits. Thanks. Sawol (talk) 04:46, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Awesome, thank you. Will leave that whole area alone. Sorry about all that. spiderjerky (talk) 04:50, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Kim Gwang-seok DAB page[edit]

Hello. I don't know much about DAB pages, and am asking this just for my own information really, not because I think it's wrong. :) When you created the above DAB page, why was the North Koran gymnast placed in the 'see also' section? Is it because the name has a different romanization? Shinyang-i (talk) 10:01, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

There are three romanizations of Korean, I think. They are two official romanizations (RR and MR) in two Korea, respectively, and one nonofficial in South Korea. 김광숙 is romanized by Kim Kwang-suk in North Korea, but 김광석 can be unofficially romanized by Kim Kwang-suk in South Korea. I used 'see also' to identify en wiki with ko wiki as 김광석. Thanks. Sawol (talk) 10:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Beach volleyball at the 2014 Asian Games[edit]

Hi, it seems you didn't notice we didn't reach agreement on that move. the last user who commented on that discussion said However before a deciding and changing about 100 wiki pages and creating seperate pages, many more people should respond first.. I will revert all your edits. Mohsen1248 (talk) 16:50, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

I did revert your edits, you have to open discussion here first Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Olympics, personally I agree with you and I will vote for splitting but I want consistency between Olympic and AG articles. Mohsen1248 (talk) 17:57, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

YoungJu Choie[edit]

I reverted your move of YoungJu Choie to "Youngju Choie". There is nothing in WP:NCCAPS (the guideline you cited in your page move) that says we should change the capitalizations of people's names from how they themselves spell them. In fact that guideline says in its very first sentence that it is not about how to capitalize proper names. All sources that I have seen either list her name as YoungJu Choie (her name as she writes it on her home page) or Young-Ju Choie. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:28, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

PS See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean)#Romanization of names: "Personal, organization, and company names should generally be romanized according to their common usage in English sources." —David Eppstein (talk) 08:41, 21 February 2015 (UTC)



Just saw the messages. Thanks for reverting the changes I made to Kim Hyun-sook's wikidata Q6677405 on Jan 2015. The deletion was unintentional as I could not see the links to other wiki pages. And as I ran out of computer time, I could not fix it.

Thanks. --Jjaey (talk) 05:35, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:SMS line links[edit]

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Category:Universiade competitors for Barbados[edit]

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Category:Competitors at the 2015 Summer Universiade[edit]

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The Korean Barnstar

The number of times you show up on my watchlist for having improved Korea-related articles is amazing. The work you do behind the scenes is extremely helpful (category management, ensuring articles are properly sorted, etc.) Your work is admirable, thanks for everything you do! Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 11:53, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Egyptian Premier League[edit]

Alexiulian25 (talk) 21:22, 28 July 2015 (UTC)Please help improve all the seasons of Egyptian Premier League, not just the current one.

Suho's picture[edit]

Suho's picture is very unflattering please change it

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Kia listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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foreign relations[edit]

Please stop adding red links to templates. LibStar (talk) 12:12, 8 August 2015 (UTC)


Don't ever do an edit such as this one again without surrounding the {{db}} tag with <noincude>. By applying the tag naked you sent dozens of innocent pages to CAT:CSD. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:07, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Debate move[edit]

Hey Sawol, just wondering why you moved Debate (competitive) back to Debate? The content is not based on debating as a form of discussion, despite the lead, but on debating as a form of competitive sport, so I am curious, as well as why there was no comment on the talk-page despite asking if anyone objected several days ago? Thanks, Dr Crazy 102 (talk) 12:41, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for visiting my talk page. Moving Debate to Debate (competitive) seems to be a controversial move. I know your effort to gather the public opinions. But there was no comment because the talk page was widely known. I recommend that you follow the procedure WP:REQMOVE#Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. Sawol (talk) 02:01, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
I had thought there was previous discussion without opposition, they just hadn't moved the page. Ah well, I'll proceed with the REQMOVE request then. Thanks, Dr Crazy 102 (talk) 04:03, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Just an update, though you seem aware of it; I've put up the move request and would like to ask for your comments and position since you reverted the move. Thanks and have a great one, Dr Crazy 102 (talk) 11:15, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

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Please make links[edit]

Hi, Thanks for linking between Kim Jin-kook and ko:김진국

Can you link below articles?

Wormatia Worms - ko:보르마티아 보름스

Kim Min-hai - ko:김민혜

Seo Ki-bok - ko:서기복

Asian Club Championship and AFC Champions League records and statistics - ko:AFC 챔피언스리그 통계

[Category:Goyang KB Kookmin Bank FC managers] - [:ko:분류:고양 KB국민은행 축구단의 축구 감독]

[Category:AFC Champions League seasons‎] - [:ko:분류:AFC 챔피언스리그 시즌]

[Category:Asian Champion Club Tournament seasons‎‎] - [:ko:분류:아시안 챔피언 클럽 토너먼트 시즌‎]

[Category:Asian Club Championship seasons‎‎] - [:ko:분류:아시안 클럽 챔피언십 시즌‎]

Thanks again. (talk) 14:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for trubling.

Lastly, Please make links again [Category:AFC Champions League template] - ko:분류:AFC 챔피언스리그에 관한 둘러보기 틀 (talk) 02:13, 2 September 2015 (UTC)


Hi, I note that an editor has marked the above article for deletion - I think it should not be deleted and that it is marked C class within project Korea. Regards Denisarona (talk) 05:51, 17 September 2015 (UTC)


I'm unclear as to why you want valid redirects deleted. For example, Burma–China relations is a redirect to China–Myanmar relations so it makes sense that Talk:Burma–China relations redirects to Talk:China–Myanmar relations. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 17:01, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

China–Myanmar relations has currently 7 redirects but its talk page has lesser redirects. Redirects of talk pages without pages that link to them do not need. You are able to move pages leaving a redirect but I am not. Sawol (talk) 17:39, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

When you move a page the talk page is moved with it. At that time you create two redirects, one for the article and one for the talk page. There is no need to delete the talk page redirect. The talk page redirect is valid and should not be deleted. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 10:37, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Show me the policy link. Sawol (talk) 10:39, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Why would you want them deleted? See Wikipedia:Moving a page. If somebody remembers that they made a comment on the talk page the may type in Talk:Article title so why send them to a deleted page when they can be sent to the correct place via a redirect. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 10:46, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
What part do I read? Wikipedia:Moving a page is very long. I know function of redirects. I request deletion of only redirect with no link. Sawol (talk) 10:54, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Moving_a_page#How_to_move_a_page is a good place to start. Tells you how to move pages, and says to leave the box for moving talk pages "always ... Checked". Forgot I had your user talk page on my watchlist and saw this pop up. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 11:05, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
But the redirects you are tagging for deletion do have a link. Earlier you moved Talk:Osan-Hwaseong Expressway to Talk:Osan–Hwaseong Expressway. That left the Talk:Osan-Hwaseong Expressway as a blue link redirect to Talk:Osan–Hwaseong Expressway, see here. If the link was red then yes it would be deleted but a valid blue link should not be. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 11:10, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Template talk:S-line/SMS left/Jungang Line has no link. Why do you revert? Talk:Kim Gwi-Hyeon is deleted. Why does other admin delete? You don't show the policy on no deleting the redirect of talk page. Sawol (talk) 12:06, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't know why Casliber deleted that so I asked them. I'm not sure what you mean by "Template talk:S-line/SMS left/Jungang Line has no link" as it clearly links to Template talk:S-line/SMS left/Gyeongui–Jungang Line. I doubt that there is a policy either to keep or delete but to my mind common sense suggests that it is better for the reader. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 14:50, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
I just saw it on the speedy deletions page when I was on my phone. Will undelete and you guys are welcome to come to some consensus. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:14, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
You seem to say there is no policy about this. No link says [4]. You say the redirects help the reader. Who dose type "Template talk:S-line/SMS left/Jungang Line"? ALL redirects do NOT help the reader. It is more efficient and wise economy to delete talk redirects without usage. When admins do move pages leaving a redirect? Sawol (talk) 01:24, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Sawol, there is a policy about moving pages (does not require Adminship, only auto-confirmed user rights which you should be by this point), it is called Wikipedia:Moving_a_page#How_to_move_a_page. Let me paste the section below and the second pull out will be the highly relevant line:

Wikipedia:Moving_a_page#How_to_move_a_page text copied:

To move a page:

  1. Choose the "move" option via the icon near the top of the page you would like to move. In the default Vector skin, this is in a drop-down menu to the right of the screen, after "History" and the "Watchlist" star (see picture). In the Monobook skin, it is a tab at the top. If there is no "move" link at the top of the page at all, the page is most likely protected from moving, and only administrators can move it. You can ask for the page to be moved at the move request page.
  2. Click "Move" on the drop-down menu.
    • Choose the appropriate namespace prefix from the drop-down box. For pages in "main" Wikipedia space (i.e. articles), choose "(Article)".
    • Enter the new name of the page under "To new title".
    • Give a reason for the move (which is like an edit summary). Although filling out the "Reason" field isn't required, you should state a reason for the page move.
    • Choose whether to also move the page's talk page (this box should usually be left checked).
  3. When ready, click the Move page button and, if successful, the page will be renamed to the new title. The old title will become a redirect page, so any links to the old title will still go to the new page. However, note that double redirects (pages that redirect to the original page), will not automatically follow to the new page, so you will have to refer them manually (as explained at How to fix a double redirect and Checking for double redirects). However, if you're an administrator, you can suppress the redirect.
  4. A successful page move will be recorded in the Move Log (against the old page name) and a "move has succeeded" message will be displayed, on a page looking like this: MediaWiki:Movepage-moved.
    • If the old page was protected, its protection settings will be copied to the new page, and this will be recorded in the Protection Log (against the new page name). If Pending changes was enabled, the settings will be moved but they will not be logged against the new page title.

Relevant line of above section pulled out:

  • Choose whether to also move the page's talk page (this box should usually be left checked).

So, as you can see, there is a standard practice that states when moving a page, you should also move the talk page which will leave behind an auto-redirect. See also: Help:How_to_move_a_page and Wikipedia:Requested_moves. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 04:45, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

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Myitsone Dam[edit]

Hi Sawol, I left a note for you here on the talk page of Myitsone Dam, it's a minor clarification on how much of the power produced is actually going to China. I had been working with the article's creator, SWH, but that user is on a break. Would you mind checking it out quickly? I have a conflict of interest as CPI is my client. Thanks. Jthomlinson1 (talk) 18:34, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

엑소 팬이세요?[edit]

헬로베이비도 다 합병되었고, 엑소 쇼타임 토론 창에 의견도 없으면서 무작정 되돌리기 하지 마시죠? -- Kanghuitari (talk) 08:55, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

There is no conclusion that merging them in the discussion Talk:Exo's Showtime. Stop reverting. Sawol (talk) 09:04, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Grants:IEG/Wikipedia likes Galactic Exploration for Posterity 2015[edit]

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Replacing speedy deletion tags[edit]

When a speedy deletion nomination has been declined, as was Lee Yeon-Sun, you should not renominate. Rather you should take it to the appropriate discussion forum, in this case WP:RFD. Just Chilling (talk) 15:23, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Category:Universiade competitors by country[edit]

Category:Universiade competitors by country, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. SFB 16:49, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

South Korea roster 2015 WBSC Premier 12[edit]

I saw your template for the South Korean roster for the 2015 WBSC Premier12. Looks good. Do you think you could edit this section of the roster page for the tournament? I've already added the Canadian roster and done work on the American squad. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 17:29, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

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About Premier 12 'Taiwan/Republic of China' edit war...[edit]

Hello, there. It seems you have been reverting edits of players replacing the term 'Taiwan' with 'Republic of China'. I would like to assure you that in most sports organization Taiwan goes either with the name Chinese Taipei (in which Taiwan went for this tournament) or Republic of China. Please understand that it isn't correct to label the country 'Taiwan' as their flag (which is the Olympic version of Taiwan's flag) also confirms of their different stance. If you would like to talk about this with other players, I can open this up on the talk page. Thank you.
HanSangYoon (talk) 22:48, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Maengjung-ri vs Maengjungni[edit]

A question - why revert the change to the redirect? As I understand wikipedia policy, Northern subjects should reflect the northern dialect... 2Q (talk) 03:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Please follow Wikipedia:Moving a page#Moves where the target name has an existing page. Sawol (talk) 03:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Sinpo Station (Pyongra Line)[edit]

Hello Sawol,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Sinpo Station (Pyongra Line) for deletion, because it's too short to identify the subject of the article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Admiral Alvin (talk) 09:23, 12 December 2015 (UTC)


I might have made a mistake in creating a redirect from Chu (Korean surname) to Joo (Korean name), as none of the Pages that link to "Chu (Korean surname)" are spelled with . Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 09:10, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Dark Obsession[edit]

Thanks for doing the redirect properly after I messedup.Atlantic306 (talk) 11:39, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

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Taeyeon discography[edit]

Shouldn't her professional stage name be used as in the cases of Hyuna's, Taemin's or Younha's? FoxSerfaty (talk) 07:53, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

The base article is Kim Tae-yeon. I'd recommend you to open WP:RM at Talk:Kim Tae-yeon. Lee Tae-min too. Sawol (talk) 08:01, 29 January 2016 (UTC)