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  • "When trying to justify the addition of criticism, please don't emphasize that it's factual and sourced. That is not the issue. Being factual and sourced is NEVER enough to justify adding anything to an article. Just stick to trying to convince us that's it due. HiLo48 (talk)"
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Advertising reviews: any benefits?

I'm new to the pending-changes editing gig, and I've got a quick question for you based on a situation that just happened. I was reviewing a change to the Steve Carell article, and I clicked the button that says "advertise" to let other reviewers know that I was working on it. As it happened, I thought the change was a good one other than the inexcusable lack of references, so I dug up a reference and submitted an edit. I had to make the change twice though, because you had reverted the page in the meantime. This leads me to wonder what the point of advertising is: would there have been any visible notice to you and our fellow reviewers that I was working on it? I'm not sure I'm understanding the purpose of the advertising feature, and you seem like you might have enough experience to know. Thanks for any advice that you may have! —jameslucas (" " / +) 18:10, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey jameslucas, welcome to the Pending Change Reviewers. We are a seemingly small, but dedicated bunch. Until you explained the situation, I wasn't sure that's what that highlighted text meant. So thank you for clarifying something I had wondered about myself. As for the edit, my apologies for interrupting your process, I did not know at the time that is what I did. With regard to the Carell article, its been coming up on the Pending Changes list on and off for several months. I'm not sure what triggers it, but it seems to get a fair amount of IP User attention. And, like you said, without acceptable sourcing.
Back to your question. I leave the setting turned off as I was unclear on its function and I had not seen a good, clear explanation in the Reviewer guidelines. Not that I'm against visibility or transparency, but sometimes it's better to work diligently with a little less scrutiny thrust upon you. A conscientious Editor can tend to get more done and in a consistent manner. It's good to know that there's another in our ranks... :) Best regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 00:16, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! At the very least, it's good to know I'm not the only one who finds the feature less than fully documented! —jameslucas (" " / +) 00:22, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
@Jameslucas: It would be nice if it was more clearly explained, but if it doesn't prevent an instance like what happened with us, its seems unnecessary. That said, want to compare notes? I only have a few comments or phrases that make up the majority of my Edit Summary comments that seem to cover about 98% of my edits. Others seem to appreciate them because I've seem them replicated.
In roughly this order of frequency, I use the following...
  • unsourced
  • unexplained removal of content
  • format error - anything that screws up how the page displays including tables
  • rvt vandalism (short for revert)
  • not in source - there's a source there, but it doesn't support the content addition
Then on specific pages I use the following if the above are not appropriate...
  • needs better sourcing - usually the requests for articles list pages
  • statistics change without source update - usually on articles for sports people
  • non-notable per WP:DOY - for day of the year pages
By the way, with regard to changing text and replacing it with something else without an Edit Summary, I consider this 2 separate actions. First, the removal of content, and then second, the addition of unsourced content. Since both are against policy, I label it as "unexplained removal of content" and leave it at that. I find that the simplest explanation tends to result in the least complaints, but it still happens.
One more thing, a personal guideline that I use when I see clear vandalism is the Rollback (VANDAL) link if you have WP:ROLLBACK rights. If its a registered User, I click this versus using "rvt vandalism" and will then tag their Talk page with the appropriate Talk page template(s). If its an IP User, I will lean towards the "rvt vandal" Edit summary since blocking them accomplishes less and is usually temporary. By the way, if they are a WP:NEWBIE, always make sure to leave the {{welcome}} template first. That's a more recent adoption of mine, but its a good idea nonetheless.
The more you edit, the more likely you'll get challenged on something you reverted or accepted. I explain them all the same way. I start by saying how I came to the article and link to the Special:PendingChanges list. And as clearly as I can explain my rationale for the revert or accept, most of the time its a revert. I recently got into an unexpected fracas over what I thought was a simple edit where I had wandered into an Edit war. I accepted what I thought was the NPOV edit and then made a cleanup edit afterwards, but that turned out to be a complete misread of the situation.
I think I'm approaching about 4,000 Pending Change edits or so and I've only been actively challenged maybe a dozen or so times, so I'm guessing that's a good track record for a Reviewer. Considering its not Bot driven and they are all "live edits", I'd say that its a respectable statistic.
What's your experience been like so far? How long have you been at it? --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:01, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
One week in, I find that I like reviewing, but it sure has been eye-opening. My previous day-to-day use of Wikipedia rarely took me to pages of the sort I'm looking at now, and the amount of unfocused enthusiasm blows me away. I'm more used to picking away at articles like Fernet-Branca, where an exciting week is one with two edits and the discourse is unlikely to become heated. I'm definitely happy to avoid contention, if only because I pour way too many hours into drafting perfect little essays arguing my points. I've never desired rollback rights, figuring that brings more frequent interaction with the IP masses. Reviewing apparently invites enough attention as it is—I got my first troll edit on my talk page this week, (although Ponyo reverted the edits and banned the troll before I could finish typing my charitable response)! Yes, it's been a good and interesting week.
For now I'm ignoring pending changes on Requests for Articles (because I haven't taught myself about that area yet) and many of the sports statistics edits, but I like your standard phrases for the other types of reverts. I'm definitely adopting 'unexplained removal of content'!
Cheers—jameslucas (" " / +) 18:15, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
I have to admit, the Guideline page for Rollbacker rights scared me a bit when I first read it. It was kind of like it was saying, "We're handing you a tool, BUT don't use it unless you're totally sure its the right use of it... or else!" That said, its not a function I turn to often unless vandalism is involved.
Otherwise it sounds like your experience is a good one and you're off to the right kind of start. Being conservative and wading slowly into the Pending Changes pool is never a bad idea. There's always a few others like me or Winkelvi to make the harder calls. Best regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:34, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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Mentioned you at AN/EW

At Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Hanswar32_reported_by_User:Ronz_.28Result:_.29. It looks like he may be changing his behavior though. --Ronz (talk) 20:51, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I think it a very bad idea to edit-war when your name has been brought up in an open ANEW discussion. --Ronz (talk) 22:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration case opened

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Lightbreather. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Lightbreather/Evidence. Please add your evidence by May 17, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Lightbreather/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 00:49, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

@L235: I asked to be excused because I was not involved in either previously mentioned ArbCom case. We're the other Editors listed by the Accused made named parties in this case? --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:01, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi Scalhotrod, you are not currently listed as a party to the case. You received this notification because you recently offered a statement in the Lightbreather arbitration case. Please let me know if you have further questions. --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 01:03, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
@L235: OK, so LB's request was not granted and I have not been dragged into this case as a formal party to the proceeding. Thank you, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:18, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
You may still submit evidence, if you choose. Any editor can do that without becoming a party (although there is always the chance that the scope be widened later, I think it unlikely you'd be a named party). It is pretty certain that LB will be submitting evidence against you, whether or not you participate, so you might want to keep the pages watchlisted. Karanacs (talk) 14:07, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Hey Karanacs, that LB will be submitting what they consider evidence of all manner of supposedly nefarious things, we can all be assured. I knew this was going to be messy from the start, but when I saw in the Acceptance votes from the Arbitrators several comments that seemed to convey "it was bound to happen, so let just get this over with", it became clear to me. There won't be any "fast pull of the bandaid" in this case. I will do what I can to be supportive, but I'm not sure how much I'll be offering up at ArbCom. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 14:20, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

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Nomination of RISE Award for deletion

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An example of home appliances is this washing machine and clothes dryer combination.

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Lightbreather's case: Clerk request

Hi Scalhotrod: The best place for the observations you have posted on the talk page (which is essentially evidence) is the case's /Evidence page. Either you can move it there yourself or I can ask one of the clerks to move it for you. Please let me know which you want to do.  Roger Davies talk 06:38, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Roger Davies, so if I understand your reply correctly, my request with the explanation I have provided is not being viewed as a procedural or administrative action like the first instance, but additional evidence? --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:08, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

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unnecessary revert

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Germany_national_football_team&oldid=661718085&diff=prev Just because it's unsourced doesn't mean it can't be added until references are found. I debated reverting myself and felt it's not incorrect to leave it in-place. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:04, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Walter, thanks for your message, but its because its unsourced is why it can't be added. I've patrolled the Special:PendingChanges long enough to know that a great many Users try to sneak in edits to their favorite teams. Many just try to change a number or two and/or add things "they know to be true", but don't have a source for. Its happens on a daily basis to so many articles about sports, its mind numbing. For this reason all statistical changes need to be sourced. Thank you, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:09, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

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The food industry is a complex, global collective of diverse businesses that supply much of the food and food energy consumed by the world population.

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Lightbreather arbitration case: special arangements

Because of the unusual number of participants with interaction bans in the Lightbreather arbitration case, the consensus of the Arbitration Committee is that:

1. All i-bans and associated restrictions are suspended for participation on the /Evidence page. This suspension extends solely and exclusively to the /Evidence page but some tolerance will be given on the /Evidence talk page to link to material on the /Evidence page.

2. For simplicity, and for the purposes of this case only, one-way i-bans are regarded as two-way i-bans.

3. Threaded interactions of any description between participants are prohibited on both the /Evidence and the /Evidence talk pages.

4. Similar arrangements apply to /Workshop page and the /Workshop talk page.

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recycling geocentric

Dear Scalhotrod,

The edit I made to the recycling page was in good faith. You deleted my edit because you said it was geocentric -- but I was actually trying to make the page more global. Currently it is primarily showing an American view of recycling codes. I included a reference to the Chinese system which is far more granular and to the work in the 3d printing community indicating a voluntary coding method that is already being adopted by those that print products themselves all over the world. If you would - I would benefit from your reasoning for not including it -- I didnt have a chance to include a reference I wanted to put in - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Recycling#semi_producted_edit_request_5-16.

Thanks --Filicias (talk) 10:38, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Filicias, the Special:PendingChanges feature sometimes bundles several edits together, if this is what happened with your edit, my apologies. When I reviewed it, the edit seemed mostly about the US in an article that is supposed to be about the entire world. So if your edits were to address countries other than the US, I applaud your efforts and encourage you to make the edit again with proper sourcing. Please let me know if you would like input or assistance. I also see that articles exist for Recycling in the United States and other countries. You may want to check those as well to see if they can benefit from your edits. Regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 11:31, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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Left: Czech bramboráček, a bread made of potato dough, being deep fried. Right: The Royal Navy Trafalgar class attack submarine HMS Tireless (S88) sits on the surface of the North Pole, the northern polar ice cap on Earth

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Correct

As per the IP edit, I say it was correct at this page. Can check List_of_cities_in_Andhra_Pradesh_by_population, List of cities in Andhra Pradesh by area.--Vin09 (talk) 04:06, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Vin09, then it just needs to say that, "largest city by population...", "Largest city by area..." whatever and please source it. Thanks, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 04:38, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

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COI section / word count

I don't think you need to justify your NRA membership here. If you're an NRA member, fine. You don't have a conflict of interest. I have donated to <redacted organization>. I don't have a conflict of interest if I edit their page. I have also donated money to <redacted political party> and to <redacted political party>. I don't have a COI if I edit pages about politicians from those parties either. LB is just throwing mud around and hoping it sticks. (P.S. if you hadn't added this evidence I was going to. Really a shame, because before that it felt like maybe she had turned a corner.) Faceless Enemy (talk) 02:37, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Please feel free to add it, if nothing else it lends credence to the idea that someone else besides me is offended by it. I find it immensely unfortunate that an active ArbCom and LBs own fear of being severely sanctioned is what it takes to get a reasoned response and civil tone out of LB. By the way, I was granted an extension, so I'm well within it now. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 02:51, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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Chocolate most commonly comes in dark (bottom), milk (middle), and white (top) varieties

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Jamie Dornan's image

There has been a conflict over the use of the infobox image in the Jamie Dornan page, I'm hoping that a vote to choose a preferred image would settle the dispute. I am therefore writing to those who have edited Jamie Dornan page to voice their opinion in the Jamie Dornan Talk page so we can reach a consensus. I would welcome your opinion. Hzh (talk) 11:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Brian Leiter page

Hi, I am seeking your help for a philosophy page. You edited it on May 16, 2015, but since then a new user, Epefleeche, engaged in substantial rewrite that was clearly not NPOV. For example, there was a controversy section in the original article, but he doubled its length and moved it in to the introduction and added editorial comments not supported by reliable sources. He also removed discussion of the subject's work and positive references, such as his recognition in the National Law Journal. Please take a look. I only edit entries about philosophers and have no experience dealing with situations like this. Thank you. (User:Philosophy_Junkie (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:30, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

User page deletion request

Any particular reason you would like your user page deleted? I like to double check before I delete full user pages, even if it is requested. Chrislk02 Chris Kreider 17:43, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Chrislk02, Getting ready to retire and I'd like it deleted. I've been sloppy with my identity and there's been some Outing attempts, hence the protection if you didn't see it which should probably stay in place. Thanks! --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:49, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Sad to see you go. If you choose to return under another name, (or under this name), drop me a line and I will restore what you need. If you would like to send me a committed identity via email so that you prove yourself in the future, feel free to do that as well. Best of luck! Chrislk02 Chris Kreider 17:52, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Chrislk02, I appreciate the offer, but I think its best to distance myself from this account as much as possible. I'd be fine with the information and history being deleted indefinitely. I think that's called "salting" or something like that. I'm leaving the Talk page up for the archive in case other User want to refer to it in the future. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:14, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
It can be blanked if you like, that way history is preserved but is not readily available unless you want to look for it. Chrislk02 Chris Kreider 18:18, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
I'll probably just manually archive it just before I retire. Thanks again! --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:20, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I echo Chris's sentiments: sorry to see you go! I have to say thanks for welcoming me into the reviewing community; it was a great way to start. —jameslucas (" " / +) 18:29, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

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The term Buggy is generally used to refer to any lightweight automobile with off road capabilities and sparse bodywork.

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