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Tommy_Robinson_(activist)[edit]

Hello - can you explain why you didn't like the proposed changes to the criminal record section for this entry? Thanks! 86.174.193.10 (talk) 21:21, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

My apologies if your edits were in earnest, some times the Special:PendingChanges function gathers edits together which makes it difficult to discern which are productive or not. Your net edits left an orphan section "Criminal record (old)" which had no content. If I interrupted your edits while in progress, my apologies as well. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 23:20, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

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Regarding Super Mario and links to "high fantasy"[edit]

Is there a reason why you have now accepted two separate edits (both of which have now been reverted) to add a link to High fantasy in the lead section of Super Mario? Previous consensus has led to that term not being added to describe the video game series. If you believe otherwise, it would probably be best to discuss on the article's talk page. Steel1943 (talk) 20:47, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Steel1943, it keeps coming up on the Special:PendingChanges list, that's the only reason for my interaction. When I clicked the link and read the explanation, it seemed to apply. If there was concensus not to use the term, my apologies, I simply did not know about the conversation. It seems to be the same User, so someone should probably address that person directly. Regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 21:37, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Hey Scalhotrod, just wanted to let you know that I responded to your response on my talk page, in the event that the Ping didn't work. Hope the diffs I provided display the discussions that have been happening over the course of the last 6 months. (By the way, I'm WP:AGF'ing as well, even though my tone might not have been clear in my response since all I did was provide diffs.) Face-smile.svg Steel1943 (talk) 16:54, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Critical Systems Inc.[edit]

this company needs better PR, plain and simple. Wikipedia is not for business listings

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Hi Dear, I was trying to create article about this company namely Critical Systems Inc. but not getting good response so what should i do? Is it possible for you to create article about this company? Regards Show-reality (talk) 05:36, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Show-reality, try posting it here Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Business_and_economics/Companies#C. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:07, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Scalhotrod, Thanks for your reply. I have posted there and you accept it but i also have created the draft for this Draft: Critical Systems Inc. Please check. Show-reality (talk) 16:10, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Show-reality, I don't see any independent sources such as news stories in the links you provided. Nothing that demonstrates any Notability as far as Wikipedia in concerned. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:39, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

I was told to offer you more possible notable links for Critical Systems Inc. Hope i'm doing this the right way:

Tyankee (talk) 18:35, 26 March 2015 (UTC)tyankee


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The Signpost – Volume 11, Issue 12 – 25 March 2015[edit]

Creating Page for an Advertising Agency[edit]

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Hi Dear can you please suggest me if i or you can create Article about an advertising agency called Forza Migliozzi. Thank You Singh 04:54, 30 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.sahota (talkcontribs)

First off, please sign your posts with "~~~~". Second, I would look up article for other advertising agencies to see if there is similar material available, List_of_advertising_agencies#North_America. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 14:12, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Scalhotrod Hi Thanks for your reply please check these pages i found to see the similar material on other advertising agencies Sid Lee, Crispin Porter + Bogusky and 72andSunny. am signing my post and am so sorry for the last time. Thank You it will shows my chosen nickname as sign - Singh 20:05, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
I don't need the examples, I was recommending you use them. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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I have started an ANI discussion about you and the SV article.[1] Lightbreather (talk) 13:47, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

It was gone before I got to the page. I wish you a speedy recovery. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:43, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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Ayyan (model)[edit]

Hi Scalhotrod,

I am not sure why you reverted my edit at the Ayyan (model) page. I was just getting rid of the porno staraward 2010 heading an IP had tried to add. Captain Assassin! on the previous edit had added a couple sentences about the money laundering charges. That is a real story. It is all over the news. She is being detained without bail and is trying to pull in other models and politicians into the mix. I have found some additional sources that are more reliable. Here they are.

http://nation.com.pk/national/15-Mar-2015/detained-model-spills-money-laundering-beans

http://tribune.com.pk/story/853145/model-ayyan-arrested-for-money-laundering/

http://abbtakk.tv/en/money-laundering-case-decision-over-model-ayyan-alis-bail-application-reserved31032015/

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/kt-article-display-1.asp?xfile=data/international/2015/April/international_April4.xml&section=international

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-178141-Pakistani-model-Ayyan-Ali-arrested-over-money-laundering-at-Islamabad-airport-

Do you have a problem with this being added in the article? The sentences were just stating what has happened so far that is verifiable in good sources.

Please let me know what you think about it.

Thanks, WordSeventeen (talk) 15:52, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

My apology, I was trying to remove an unneeded section title. You were correct to remove that stray text. This article has been coming up on the Special:PendingChanges quite a bit lately and has been the target of vandalism. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:57, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
No problem. So you are ok with me adding the sentences back with say 2 or 3 of these better references? WordSeventeen (talk) 16:11, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Do more need to be added? It's already in the Personal life section with sources where it belongs. Please update the sources if there are better ones. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 16:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 01 April 2015[edit]

Szekely Land[edit]

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Hi, man!

Why are are deleting referenced material? If you do so at least explain your change and provide reference to it.

Thanks, ID — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idsocol (talkcontribs) 17:05, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

You keep adding unsourced material, please stop. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:10, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, man! My material is not unsourced. I'll report this on the noticeboard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idsocol (talkcontribs) 20:15, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

That didn't go so well for you, bummer... --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:57, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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42 (number)[edit]

Hi,

Today I added my text to the article on number 42. "* 42 is the door that leads to the gateway out of heaven for Bobby Singer in Supernatural (season 10), Episode 17." It was deleted, despite it being factual. May be rephrased a bit, but there is a door 42 in that episode that is the entry/exit gateway to /from heaven! As reference to this I could've added an image from the TV screen as I did not look it up on the interenet since I did not need to, because I was watching the episode. Anyhow, here is a reference link: http://www.hypable.com/supernatural-10x17-recap/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmergl (talkcontribs) 17:46, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Kmergl, if you have a source, then please use it. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:52, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Alec Baldwin/Thomas & Friends[edit]

I'm just letting you know, I'm not upset with you at all. I just wanted to clear things up and just to let you know what i was doing. I was changing the information of Thomas back to the way it was, the information int he article is false information and I was just changing it back. He was on the show until he left in 2002, he was not on the show in 2003, that's false. Look at the article Thomas & Friends, it even say's it right there that he was on the show from 1998 to 2002. So, can I please put it back the way it is in the past, please? Because another IP Address user made it all incorrect like that.

Please do, just please add a source so that matter can be put to rest... :) Happy Easter, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:50, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter[edit]

The Easter Exhibition at the Cultural Miner's House in Sanok 02.JPG Happy Easter
Happy Easter....  ! Hafspajen (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

GSL merger proposal[edit]

Text is a bad way to convey tone, so just to clarify the "please explain" wasn't rhetorical - I'm keeping an open mind about this. Either way, thanks for the input. Faceless Enemy (talk) 11:40, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey FE, thank you for acknowledging that and I couldn't agree more! You know that generally I'm on your side on most GP debates and I can understand the desire to combine them, but its the potential motives of current and future POV editors that worries me. I realize that right now LB is in favor of keeping the articles separate, but if they are combined whats to stop LB from making the article a promotional piece for UBC. Right now the UBC article reads like a promotional piece written by the Brady group. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Heartland Institute lede[edit]

Greetings! I agree the lede needs to be rewritten. Please let us collaborate on the body and then circle back to the lede. If we get the body right, the lede will be easier. Thanks! Hugh (talk) 22:16, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey HughD, of course, of course! At first glance the article looks sourced properly and not in need of any massive revision or deletion, so I'm working from the assumption that its more of a cleanup effort than a Major Copy Edit or full rewrite. Once that's accomplished, the Lead should be easy work. It's not the first time I've seen POV pushing and subject bashing like this. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 22:20, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hillary Scott (pornographic actress)[edit]

Hi there. I've undone your move of the above article as it contradicts the requested move outcome actioned by Number 57 on 2 April and again by me on 7 April. If you have an issue with the article title, please discuss accordingly rather than ignore consensus, however small. Thanks,  Philg88 talk 03:44, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Need assistance from users who know well the MOS:LEAD policy[edit]

Extra opinions are necessary at Talk:Székely_Land#The_name_in_the_Old_Hungarian_alphabet regarding the inclusion of the name DLÖFLYEKÉSZ. Thanks in advance for your help. 178.143.92.15 (talk) 08:38, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Ahmadiyya[edit]

Apparently I stated my opinion as fact. Could you specify which opinion of mine you are referring to? I was under the impression everything I wrote in the lead was all already established as fact in the article. 1cairo (talk) 20:32, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

1cairo, your edit came up for review on the Special:PendingChanges list. At first glance, I could not easily determine what part of the article your summary was derived from. If it is based on content from the article, then I would say that its likely WP:UNDUE for the Lead. Per WP:LEAD it is intended to be a summary of the major points of the article and not minority views unless it is significantly substantiated in the article. If you think this material belongs in the Lead, then I suggest you start a discussion on the Talk page. It does not appear that you have participated on it. Regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 21:20, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
I am still not sure I understand. What have I said that is a "minority view"? What point did I make which is not a major point on this subject? If someone chose to object on the talk page I would be happy to discuss, but I am not sure what a person who knows about the subject would object to. 1cairo (talk) 21:26, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Then what section or sections were you summarizing with your edit? Please link to it. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 21:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Mark Davis[edit]

Hello, I am pretty new to wikipedia and I apologize if what I added was deemed as trivia. I just thought that Mark Davis's page was a little small considering he is a majority owner of one of the most storied franchises in the NFL. I felt that the additions I made would be helpful to people looking to learn more about him, being that there is no personal life section. I understand the facts are a little random but are they not better than no facts? Also, is the fact that he graduated from California State University, Chico not trivia? Why does that stay on the page and what I added have to be removed? Any response would be greatly appreciated.Evan smellentine (talk) 01:06, 10 April 2015 (UTC)evansmellentine

Hi Evan, thank you for your message. To answer your questions, let me start by saying that articles about living people, or what we call BLPs in Wikispeak, are THE MOST watched, scrutinized, and monitored category of articles on Wikipedia. Even an article as small as Davis' will drawn attention if its not edited according to site Guidelines and Policy.
That said, most basic information about person, especially things like where they went to school, are acceptable. But its best to be careful about personal and family information. This is just meant to be an encyclopedia entry, not a full biography. Plus, its limited by available sources (what has been published about the person that is factual and reliable) versus editorial or opinion pieces. People had plenty to say about Al, his father, but much of it isn't suitable for his article, nor should every opinion about Mark for that matter.
Let me go back and see what I can do with your content and then we can go from there. Regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:25, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for responding hot rod. I just skimmed through the Al Davis page and it looks like there isn't much related to his personal life. Just his early life. I appreciate the help and please don't feel any pressure to try and make my edits work. Evan smellentine (talk) 02:08, 10 April 2015 (UTC)EvanSmellentine

ABC World News Tonight[edit]

You recently reverted the inclusion of the fact that since March 30, 2015 that ABC World News Tonight is no longer shown on BBC News so hopefully a link to the last ABC World News Tonight was at 01:30 Friday 27 March (You'll notice that the page is on Thursday 26 March)Navigate through the page and navigate through all following pages Monday - Thursday and you will see that I am correct http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcnews/programmes/schedules/2015/03/26 [1] I await your response, also I was looking at BBC News today at 01:30 and it still was not on the screen 213.94.145.91 (talk) 01:39, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hi 213.94.145.91, the article came up for review on the Special:PendingChanges list. I saw that an edit was made, but no source was added or updated and rejected the edit on that basis. The source you provide is a WP:PRIMARY source. It can be used to state what "is" or "is not" about a subject, but cannot be used to make a statement regarding a change. If you have a secondary source that makes this claim, please use it when making changes to the article. By the way, citing 2 different or multiple sources to come to a conclusion is not allowed, it falls under WP:SYNTH. Regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:56, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

The source that was used came from the BBC itself also I do frequently watch BBC News too and I have not seen it on since the last program was aired with this reference from the BBC also states "no upcoming episodes" http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04j5j0j No conclusion is needed it is self apparent, it was previously off air between June 2011 and August 2012 Also up to April 17 it is still not on air. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcnews/programmes/schedules/2015/04/16 Again no conclusion required If the BBC source is not good enough then I am at a loss as to what a good source is. This source is "straight from the horses mouth"83.71.110.182 (talk) 10:28, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 08 April 2015[edit]

Wow, and somewhat hard to assess[edit]

Thanks for attention paid to Anthony Watts (blogger). Your edit summary indicated that in the one massive diff you deleted some unspecified questionable sources. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to see a list, so we don't have to run our own reference side by side comparison to figure it out. Is that something you can produce easily? NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 16:48, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey NewsAndEventsGuy, yeah, sorry, I tend to edit like that. I just keep hitting the Preview button until I'm OK with hitting Save. I guess no one can accuse me of trying to pad my edit count. As for the ref I removed, it was the one for the block quote that would have been in the "reception and review" section. It referenced a Google book written in Japanese. The way it stuck out and what it said (assuming you trust the translation) given the other criticism, it didn't really make much of a difference. Lots of people seem to bash the guy. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 16:54, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Good point; however I suggest you explain that on the talk page since there seems to be some, uh, shall we say hasty reverting going on. Without this explanation your fine work might also get hastily reverted, especially if you meant a single source was removed (but your edit sum I think said sources, plural). NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 17:12, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
OK --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

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@I9Q79oL78KiL0QTFHgyc:...and you're leaving this here because...? --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 14:58, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
You should be made aware of this because of your activities at Anthony Watts (blogger). jps (talk) 17:22, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
@I9Q79oL78KiL0QTFHgyc: Ah, thanks for the notice, but nah, I'm pretty much done there. I did my WP:GOCE review and did a few cleanup edits, but I'm not getting involved any further. There's clearly some POV pushers there and that's not a scene I'm interested in. It's off my Watchlist as of my last edit[2].
If you want to be conscientious, you're much better off posting that template on the article's Talk page so its more readily known. Sometimes individual postings on User Talk pages are interpreted as aggressive or even a Personal Attack. Regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:37, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
I think associating the warning with the article/talkpages would be a lot more sensible way to run things, but, alas, no one has bothered to code up a flag for articles under discretionary sanctions which would preclude the need for this absurd ritual. jps (talk) 17:46, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Actually, there IS a template... a long form and a short form. For example the bottom of the header at Talk:global warming. In last years DS overhaul it was extensively discussed whether banner notices at article talk are sufficient, and the community was strongly of the opinon that they are not. Besides I could make a WP:ARBCC enforceable remark at NFL, Cookie, or Leviticus but it would be inappro to banner those articles for every DS topic. As for aggressiveness, the newer warmer fuzzier DS ALERT template was thoroughly rehashed for the express purpose of culture change. They are intended as no-fault FYIs that require nothing more than sticking one's toe in the water of the topic. The old system sort of presumed some misdeed before giving the "warning", so the decision was made to change to an expressly no-fault FYI "alert". I nearly templated you myself, just because I template nearly EVERYBODY who appears in the climate pages. Templating EVERYBODY is the only way to bring about the desired culture change. Otherwise all we've changed is the wrapper, but the templates are given/taken the same as the old 'warnings'. Anyway, thanks for your mostly copy edits there. A lot of good stuff seemed to have been chucked by the warriors, more's the pity. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 17:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Wow, I totally missed the tan one at the top of the page, it just blends in with everything else. One like you left on my page would make much more sense to post and be more obvious to the average visitor. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:23, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────What would make more sense is if we just had a piece of code that would non-judgmentally alert people that they were editing a page that fell under the relevant discretionary sanctions every time they hit "save" on an article that was flagged as such. This kind of code would be extremely useful in doing other things eventually too such as enforcing topic bans (which is now done primarily through a ridiculous game of having the topic-banned guess as to which articles are intended to be included). jps (talk) 18:02, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

I have lobbied vigorously for that very thing off and on, but it is always shot down. The one objection I have heard and for which i have no rebuttal is that the community feels that mere copy editors should not be harassed with these. That's a valid concern and a good goal, and the server can not be expected to tell copy edits from substance edits like a human. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:06, 13 April 2015 (UTC) PS And since I knew that, I did not issue the template here. On the other hand, there is no caution against doing so in the guidelines, and I would oppose the addition of such a restriction on grounds that it would impeded the new culture that it's just FYI. If there's any text that ever says "don't" then that's a new thing to fight about. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:08, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Actually, that's a really good idea. It could be as simple as the script that checks to see if a User has entered and Edit summary or not. In this case, it would just respond to code on the page. Like a special magic word like __NOTOC__ or something similar. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:23, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Persuade me that it will not become just another thing to patrol against, or when push comes to shove we won't bog down in fights whether claims of a

"I was just copy editing" are valid. Also there are reasons I did not go into why auto-templating as I described would miss some substantive edits, so auto templating would still be supplemented by manual human templating....raising the possibility that I then template a copy editor. Anyway if you want to champion this, direct your input to the ARBs please. They do periodic reviews, after all.NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 20:33, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

"Mere copy-editors" sounds like there is a group here that thinks there is some sort of magical cloak you can wear that will immunize you from arbitration enforcement. That belief is neither true nor is it something that is liable to become true. It's not harassment to let people know they are copy-editing an article that is subject to weird additional rules. Oh well, we'll just have to keep reaching for that rainbow. jps (talk) 20:13, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
I can see both sides. Part of me agrees with jps, but another part understands that the DS topic areas will be passed over by some otherwise excellent copy editors. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 20:33, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Mary Jean Lastimosa[edit]

Hi. I'm a huge fan of Mary Jean Lastimosa. And I can't edit her page because you deleted it. Please don't delete my contribution for this page because I want that other pageant fans to be updated on what's happening to her. And I am living in the Philippines so I am more updated on what is happening to MJ. We should take turns in editing or contributing because we wan't to make her page better. I hope you will not delete my contribution to this page. Thank You! By the way I am Allyson Fernandez from the Philippines. (GMT+8) 17:38 2015/April/13

Hi Allyson Fernandez from the Philippines, please cite sources for the content your are adding to any article otherwise it will be removed. Information, especially about living people, needs to be sourced with a reliable source to insure that it is true and accurate. Thanks, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:25, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

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2015 Indian Premier League[edit]

Hi, any specific reason for holding back so many revisions on this page? You cited issues with the source, however, all the requisite sources are there on the page. Other reason could be sudden activity which is quite possible as the Match 9 got over and there were updates related to match.

That was the Special:PendingChanges function that did that and unfortunately it won't let Reviewers separate edits. There were so many that I could not tell what was accurate and sourced or not. My assumption is the conscientious Editors return to correct things like this. Regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 19:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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April 2015 GOCE newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors April 2015 Newsletter
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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 3[edit]

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This week's article for improvement (week 17, 2015)[edit]

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Hello, Scalhotrod.

The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection:

Geography of Niger


Previous selections: Aerophone • History of technology


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Today's articles for improvement[edit]

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  • Hello Scalhotrod:
This week's voting for TAFI's upcoming weekly collaboration has begun at Week 20 of 2015. Thanks for participating!
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BLPPrimary[edit]

No more need to discuss this here. It's being discussed elsewhere. I'm sure anyone genuinely and sincerely interested can figure how to find the respective Project Talk pages.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

As you are aware, I consider WP:BLPPRIMARY violations to be BLP violations. Last we discussed this, I suggested an RfC would be a good next step. --Ronz (talk) 14:21, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't consider your personal opinion nor your mis-interpretation of policy worthy of any attention. Furthermore, if you are going to be anti-Canadian (the award you keep deleting the mention of and source for is based in Canada), that is your choice, please stop applying your personal bias to Wikipedia. This is not the first time you have brought up this subject nor is it the first time its been discussed with multiple uninvolved Editors. The consensus was that the inclusion of these awards is fine if its limited to the mention of a win or nomination, but not for analysis or statements such as "first person to win...", "won the most..." etc. So it would seem that you are doing this to make a WP:POINT. Please stop. Thank you, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 14:52, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for responding. Do WP:FOC
"The consensus was" - where was that consensus made and what was it based upon? --Ronz (talk) 15:22, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
There has been quite a bit of discussion in a variety of places, so I can understand if its been difficult for you to follow assuming that you have actually looked for it. If not, you might want to start, as usual, with the Porn Project Talk page. Its also been a topic of discussion in the Film Project. Please, take all the time you need to carefully read it and understand what is being discussed. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:52, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to believe that there is some consensus somewhere. You're saying that it exists. Please indicate where. --Ronz (talk) 16:55, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
I have already pointed you to two sources of discussion and that is all the effort that I wish to put forth in order to reduce your ignorance of the situation. I encourage you to look into either Talk page in order to get better informed as to recent discussions. Regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:12, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

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My apologies[edit]

I apologize for aggressively trying to get you to address policy concerns regarding the long running edit-war over the use of primary sources. Can I assume that you made all the reverts without an edit summary of any sort ([3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] ) out of anger? If so, I'm sorry that my actions got you so worked up. --Ronz (talk) 16:46, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Ronz, Thank you for apologizing, but your assumptions are what is making a mess of this entire situation. You're also working "both sides of the aisle" by courting Hullabaloo Wolfowitz as a supporter of your cause. There was another User that did that and had a cause similar to yours directed at Porn BLPs. He believed strongly that he was doing the correct thing, but he's since be Topic Banned and was site blocked temporarily as well. Since you seem to have an issue with so many articles that fall under the domain of the Porn Project, I suggest you bring your concerns there. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 22:33, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you ...[edit]

for the beer. I appreciate the kind thoughts, too. Face-smile.svg — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:05, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Please follow WP:DR[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. --Ronz (talk) 15:31, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

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