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Books and Bytes - Issue 13[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 13, August-September 2015
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs), Nikkimaria (talk · contribs)

  • New donations - EBSCO, IMF, more newspaper archives, and Arabic resources
  • Expansion into new languages, including Viet and Catalan
  • Spotlight: Elsevier partnership garners controversy, dialogue
  • Conferences: PKP, IFLA, upcoming events

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The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:30, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks and an offer[edit]

I wanted to pop by to thank you for hatting that side conversation at the Sinatra talk page. That got unnecessarily nasty and personal. Your comment on the collapse bar was also apt and appropriate. I appreciate that you did that. You know how contentious my RfA was and you may not have known that I was also putting up with things like this (which is the one left that wasn't revdeled). I'm pretty tough, but still needing some recovery space, considering the situation, so it's nice to see folks who may not always agree with me still act with integrity and support for things like NPA and AGF, no matter who is involved. By the way, if you have any interest in doing a drive-by informal PR on the article I'm looking at for "my" next GA, it's Beholder (horse), and I always like to have non-horsey people look at these to be sure we are not falling into a writing style that borders on incomprehensible gibberish. There exists Glossary of equestrian terms and North American horse racing terminology that we often link to for certain technical language where no other article exists, and I particularly value folks pointing where we need to do so! (but heh, the infobox stays, though I'd give my eyeteeth to get a photo, we are having no luck finding free images of her!) Montanabw(talk) 17:53, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Montana, No probs on the collapse – it's often the easiest way to stop what isn't needed or constructive, which I thoughtthe tht little sub-thread was! I didn't see you had an RfA up - I've been a bit tied up recently and haven't strayed out of a few articles, without looking at some of the more central stuff. You're braver than me: it's not a job I would ever want to do, let alone go through the process of having everyone I've ever pissed off lining up to have a major pop at me!! (And that's before the idiots sock to throw cheap shots in afterwards!)
I'll try and swing by Beholder shortly to give you the full benefit of my total ignorance! - SchroCat (talk) 18:32, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
The RfA was brutal, but Cassianto was a gem! And you nailed the process, in a nutshell. Montanabw(talk) 00:45, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Actually, I put the fine lady up for GAN: [1] I could use a reviewer, may be the best way to kill two birds with one stone. Montanabw(talk) 23:09, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Even better. I've picked it up, and will try not to change too much into British English if I can help it! Now to strip out the IB as part of the review process.... ;)
BTW, I do have a working knowledge of the racing terminology (certainly the British English terminology) as this guy is my second cousin; his father won the 1959 Grand National on Oxo. - SchroCat (talk) 13:42, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 September 2015[edit]

George Formby Sr[edit]

I see you felt there were too many commas at George Formby Sr: [2]. I also felt there were too many commas, but if there is one after the "according to" prepositional phrase, there should be one before it. I don't see the need for either the comma after "according to George Formby's biographers" or the comma after the names of the biographers. I would remove both of those and put the one you removed back in. I don't expect you to do that since we often disagree on punctuation, but I just thought I'd let you know the way I see it. I also think you are wrong on the placement of the quotation marks outside the period. Read the second paragraph of MOS:LQ carefully. The "sentence" referred to is what is in the quotation marks, not the sentence in which the quotation is included. Otherwise, there would be no point in including a section on the placement of quotation marks in MOS. Corinne (talk) 19:19, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your opinion, but the commas are fine in BrEng as they currently stand. In terms of LQ, I'm afraid you've not got that right, and the complete sentence (which is what is there is at the moment) is completed by the full stop prior to the closing quote marks. If it was a partial sentence, then the full stop would be after the quote marks. The sentence in question isn't just closed in the original, it is the end of the paragraph too. As I've pointed out to you previously, there are many times that you need to have sight of the original before you change the punctuation around. - SchroCat (talk) 08:30, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Beholder (horse)[edit]

Hi, I fixed the punctuation issue you brought up at Beholder's GA review (inserted a comma); right now there's a trend here in America to write in run-on sentences without punctuation. White Arabian mare (Neigh) 15:09, 6 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare

Many thanks. What an unfortunate trend: the sentence as it stood suggested that the white markings were bred and the comma clarifies the situation. Either way, the trends of some American writers should have no effect on the MoS of an international encyclopaedia. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 15:20, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome. And on the capitalization issue (fought out in a long, hard battle by WikiProject Equine) the capitalized word 'Thoroughbred' is generally used here in America to refer to the specific breed of horse, while 'thoroughbred' in the lower case means any purebred horse, i.e; "That farmer breeds thoroughbred Tennessee Walkers". I'm pretty sure it's used that way in the article because it's an American article about an American horse, in the same manner that British articles use "colour" with a u. I hope that explanation wasn't a run-on...White Arabian mare (Neigh) 15:42, 6 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare

Except, WAM (smiles) that we in horse land always say "purebred" not "thoroughbred," as a "Thoroughbred Tennessee Walker" is a crossbred between a Thoroughbred and a Tennssee Walker ;-). I am not going to go to the mat over the capitalization issue, as some people care a great deal, but yes, the position of WPEQ is that because the Thoroughbred is a breed of horse, it should be capitalized so as not to be confused with the "generic" meaning of "purebred". That said, the New York Times disagrees with the Jockey Club on the issue, so who wants to land in the middle of that dispute? LOL! Montanabw(talk) 18:46, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Still, the use of thoroughbred as a synonym for purebred is fairly common in books/magazine articles written by non-horse people, so...worth mentioning, but I don't use it that way.White Arabian mare (Neigh) 22:12, 6 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare