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You changed my correctons for the F-22[edit]

You changed my correction about the F-22. It's an aircraft designed and built by Boeing Coproration NOT Lockheed Martin. Here is the aircraft in Boeing's official website: Lockheed martin is currently producing the F-35. There are comments in the page that are not correct and they are biased. โ€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgios3377 (talk โ€ข contribs) 12:44, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind. I dont know what I was thinking. Its LM indeed. โ€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgios3377 (talk โ€ข contribs) 12:57, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

You are engaged in edit battles over your need to gate-keep all Clinton-related articles[edit]

I'm taking this to the board, where complaints are made.maslowsneeds๐ŸŒˆ 14:42, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Please do, maslowsneeds. I will grab the popcorn and watch you embarrass yourself. -- Scjessey (talk) 14:44, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure exactly what you two have in mind but this seems like a very bad idea. The US election is about 36 hours from being done. Patience. - Wikidemon (talk) 14:46, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
I have nothing in mind. This is entirely a maslowsneeds thing concerning religious affiliations in infoboxes (which you also weighed in on). -- Scjessey (talk) 14:49, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
That you are so brazen and flippant is material to how you treat other Wikipedia editors with disrespect and contempt. Is this how you treat people IRL ? Please go defend yourself here. You need to account for your intimidation and harassment to the community. --maslowsneeds๐ŸŒˆ 14:50, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
LOL. -- Scjessey (talk) 14:51, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Fine page![edit]

That's a very attractive talkpage you've got here. Minimalist yet striking. darwinbish BITE โ˜  23:34, 11 November 2016 (UTC).

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. โ€” Preceding unsigned comment added by BlackAmerican (talk โ€ข contribs)

LOL! -- Scjessey (talk) 10:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
@Maslowsneeds: Huh? -- Scjessey (talk) 15:21, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
I received a notification yesterday that you posted something that referenced me. I came to your page to respond, but then the section I read and was responding to was deleted. I don't know how this comment saved, if the section I was reading and that I thought I was responding to got deleted. Please ignore. I'm sorry, I did not mean to post an unwarranted comment like this. maslowsneeds๐ŸŒˆ 15:49, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
@Maslowsneeds: Weird. As far as I know, we haven't "crossed paths" since the beginning of November. Anyway, no harm done - we're cool :-) -- Scjessey (talk) 15:58, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
I got a notification yesterday in My Alerts, which could have been an echo, and I followed the notification here. I swear I read something that promted my comment. I would not come here for no reason, so perhaps what I saw was an echo/something in my cache from weeks ago. Thanks for understanding. maslowsneeds๐ŸŒˆ 16:51, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Do not be resistant to consensus[edit]

RE: Donald Trump

No. The only one that makes any sense is politician, businessman, television personality and President-elect of the United States. "Businessman" covers the real estate developer aspect. -- Scjessey (talk) 14:00, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

This is evidence of inflexibility, battleground behavior, and being prone to edit warring. Consensus is achieved either falsely (by wearing out other editors and chasing them away) or by being able to live with more than only your opinion and choice. Scjessey writing that "the only one" that makes any sense is the wrong type of behavior. Even though I do not believe that "politician" is appropriate, there are certain combinations that would be more sensible than others. I will explain at the end of this (talk page) section and not insert it in the middle. Usernamen1 (talk) 04:50, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Your writing also means that politician, businessman, and President-elect of the United States makes no sense. Too inflexible. Believe me, Sad! (Last part is parody). Usernamen1 (talk) 04:53, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
@Usernamen1: What on earth are you talking about? I get that you disagree with my view, but it is just as valid as yours. Given the fact I have been a Wikipedian for 11 years and have over 24 thousand edits under my belt, whereas you have less than 250 edits in the 4 months you have been with the project, I would argue that I have a better grasp than you do of what is and is not appropriate. -- Scjessey (talk) 13:32, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your statemment that "I get that you disagree with my view, but it is just as valid as yours." Previously you had written that the only view is yours (top quote). Usernamen1 (talk) 21:47, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
@Usernamen1: If you have nothing useful to say, I'd really rather you didn't bother commenting. -- Scjessey (talk) 22:00, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Picture revert[edit]

Dear Scjessey, with this edit you reverted my revert of someone who had removed this longstanding picture. Per 1RR/DS rules, please self-revert and take the discussion to the talk page. โ€” JFG talk 13:11, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

December 2016[edit]

Stop icon This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at Barack Obama, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. William Avery (talk) 13:34, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

This was not me. I think my account was compromised. I have changed my password. -- Scjessey (talk) 13:43, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
HJ Mitchell I see you have blocked me because of a compromised account. I have changed my password. Do I need to do anything else to get my editing privileges back? -- Scjessey (talk) 13:49, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Change your email. Marvellous Spider-Man 13:52, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Since we don't know whether the account is still compromised, and must assume it is at this time, some convincing off-site verification will be necessary, preferably using a pre-established non-compromised identity. -- zzuuzz (talk) 13:55, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
@Marvellous Spider-Man: The email account associated with my Wikipedia account? I'm not sure what purpose that would serve. My original Wikipedia password (now changed) was not used for anything else. It would be awesome if two-factor authentication was a fully rolled out feature on Wikipedia. -- Scjessey (talk) 13:56, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
@Zzuuzz: Erm... okay. Any suggestions? -- Scjessey (talk) 13:58, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Note - I have a meeting I need to go to for about four hours, so I will be away from Wikipedia. If anyone has any good ideas about how I can get unblocked in the meantime, I would greatly appreciate it. -- Scjessey (talk) 14:01, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Sorry about this, Simon, but you'll need to find some way of proving that you're the real Scjessey. Are there admins or well-known editors you know in real life or you've contacted off-wiki that you can contact to verify who you are? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:02, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
I suggest a selfie photo taken holding today's newspaper. That could be compared to the photo on his user page.- MrX 14:10, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
I'd be satisfied with that. Thanks, MrX. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:24, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
@HJ Mitchell: I don't get a newspaper, but I can take a selfie with this talk page in the picture (functionally equivalent) and then upload it to my personal website. If that doesn't prove I'm me, I don't know what does. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
@HJ Mitchell: Okay, I've done it. Please don't laugh when you click on this proof it is me. You may need to copy/paste the URL directly into your browser because of the way my server is setup. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:27, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
@MrX: I've had to do a modified version of your idea. Not getting any responses though. Any chance you could mention my plight to a passing admin for me? -- Scjessey (talk) 18:35, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
I get a "forbidden" error there. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:38, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
You should be able to just go to the link directly in your browser. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:42, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Works with a copy/paste. It's him (with a sad look)  :)) --TMCk (talk) 18:44, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
That's a relief. I was going to do a Google Photos link, but Google uses a URL shortener that Wikipedia apparently blocks. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:47, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
@TracyMcClark: Well... I'm bummed about being blocked. With that said, I can appreciate the humor of the situation as well as the inconvenience of it. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:49, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
I definitely can see your frustration in the pic. The little ordeal should be over shortly, tho. Cheers, --TMCk (talk) 18:54, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

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  • Unblocked. Hello there, Scjessey, welcome back. Me, I don't use 2FA (too inconvenient with all my socks, cough), but I have a strong-ass password. Bishonen | talk 18:56, 30 December 2016 (UTC).
  • Bless you, Bishonen. Sorry for all the trouble everyone. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
  • I can see it now. Was unblocking but Bish beat me to the button (she moves fast for a dinosaur!). I trust you have a strong password now? One that you don't use anywhere else (and FYI, MediaWiki supports absurdly long passwords)? Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:01, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Thank you, User:HJ Mitchell. My password is much stronger now. Fortunately, I never use the same password on different accounts. -- Scjessey (talk) 19:03, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Any idea how his happened then? Reuse of passwords between websites was thought to be the cause of the last incident like this. Might be worth an email to the WMF. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:09, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
  • I have absolutely no idea. The only thing I can think of is that I've had the same password for years and never really given it much thought. I will change it on a regular basis from now on. And now I think of it, I have a global Wikimedia login setup. I'd better check to see if anything else has been messed with. -- Scjessey (talk) 19:18, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

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As I indicated earlier, password reuse wasn't the issue because I don't reuse passwords. The problem is more likely related to the fact I've not changed the password for many years and it wasn't nearly strong enough. I was just lazy about it. -- Scjessey (talk) 13:46, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

RfC Notice[edit]

There is a Request for Comment posted at Talk:New York Daily News#Request for Comment. You are being notified as one of every registered editor who has edited that article in that past year. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:58, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Donald Trump[edit]

Which comment? --Dervorguilla (talk) 23:02, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

@Dervorguilla: This comment. It added nothing whatsoever to the discussion except pissing other editors off. -- Scjessey (talk) 13:41, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

I have added a new Option C to the most recent survey at the Trump talk page. I think everyone will find it appealing, so please comment about it and we can be done with this. Thanks. Anythingyouwant (talk) 23:55, 13 April 2017 (UTC)


You accuse me of sounding "incompetent." I cannot imagine anything more incompetent than referring to Trump's ascension to the presidency in future tense instead of past tense, and in the lead of an extremely high-profile BLP to boot. I am not going to offer you any concessions in order to get it changed to past sense. Your position is quite (shall we say?) untenable.Anythingyouwant (talk) 20:12, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

You failed to seek consensus and blundered forward anyway. And I said it makes Wikipedia seem incompetent, not you. -- Scjessey (talk) 14:32, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Barack Obama[edit]

I saw your edit on Donald Trump talk and 'the Trump family lie,' and that is exactly what is needed on Donald Trump. I left a message on the Barack Obama talk page asking editors there to come over to help. As I don't know any of them, and you do, if you know of any who might be interested, could you ping them and ask for their help? Too much is being excluded from this article, in my opinion, and editors experienced in a sitting president's BLP, especially of a recent one, and who managed to get that article to FA, are sorely needed there. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 14:15, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Quick note[edit]

Hey Scjessey, regarding this revert, I thought I'd bring it here instead of directly to the talk page in hopes of avoiding a can-of-worms RfC that seems to be the norm there. Hopefully we can work out a compromise that will short-circuit that. My objections to your revert are, in order of importance:

  1. The words "described his practice of" assume in Wikipedia's voice that it was an actual practice. We should just report what he said.
  2. Using the Rolling Stone as a sole source: I always try to use a more middle-of-the-road source like WaPo, NYTimes, etc. It's not that the information is unreliable, but that it can look biased and invites people to counter with more "biased" sources.
  3. My objection to the direct quote is based on MOS:QUOTE which says, "It is generally recommended that content be written in Wikipedia editors' own words. Using too many quotes is incompatible with an encyclopedic writing style...Consider minimizing the use of quotations by paraphrasing, as quotations should not replace free text (including one that the editor writes)."

Perhaps you would consider a partial self-revert that resolves some of these concerns ~Awilley (talk) 19:38, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I see this is now being discussed on the article talk page, which was always the better venue. -- Scjessey (talk) 14:56, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


You stated that there's more than enough citable material to document bigotry, sexism, xenophobia.[1] Can you please cite specific examples to reliable sources? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 13:39, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

This question should be posed at the article talk page, not my user talk page. -- Scjessey (talk) 13:04, 12 September 2017 (UTC)