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Re: Oldschool

A lot more of us old timers are around than people might think -- I stumbled across two who predate me the other month -- but we are a dying breed. Unless my mood changes soon, you may outlast me here. -- llywrch (talk) 22:32, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

One is Rmhermen, who kept beneath my radar for a long time. Another was Theresa Knott, whom I knew was a long-time contributor but until Rmhermen posted on my talk page & I went looking at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians in order of arrival, I didn't know she's been contributing since August 2001. Both must be in the top 5 of longest tenures who are still active. (Others I knew about include Eclecticology & Evan Prodromou, whom I've met face-to-face, & Slrubenstein & LA2.) -- llywrch (talk) 01:02, 26 February 2012 (UTC)


Thank you very much for the note, which I greatly enjoyed. British: yes, guilty; around a long time (in Wikipedia/internet terms): yup, that too.

I remember quite clearly the day that I "discovered" it: I was looking for information on some plant, flower or something. (Sadly, exactly which bit of flora was stored in some memory which now seems to have been rewritten or disconnected.) It was in the Guardian crossword, in fact: I had the word in, but wanted to check what on earth it was. And suddenly I was looking at something that said (a) it was an encyclopaedia but (b) I could change it! Strange days. And the rest, of course, is history.

I don't do that much here nowadays. At one time, under my previous username, I was really quite active, enthusiastic, and committed. Now I just do bits and pieces, and bitch at people who can't spell "Middlesbrough", and do various other sad OCD-ish things. (See username ... ah yes, you did.)

Excellent to hear from you, take care, all good wishes

DBaK (talk) 20:00, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

10 years - blimey!

Thanks! Good heavens, so it is. I just looked up my first edit - 21/09/2002. That is quite extraordinary. How did you suss me out? I thought it was non-obvious. :) What do I do to accept your kind offer? Cheers DBaK (talk) 13:51, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Comment - aha - we spoke back in Feb, I see now. So did you suss out who I used to be? Not that it was anyone interesting. :) DBaK (talk) 13:55, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
No, I didn't :) Heh.
Regarding accepting, I'm not really sure, I suppose you could add yourself to Category:Members of the Ten Year Society of Wikipedia editors. I came up with the whole format of the idea in very short order and didn't really intend for it to be much more than a page and a category. (Kind of the WikiWikiWeb way of doing things.)
Here's to the next ten years, cheers! -- Hex [t/c] 14:01, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

must, have to, etc. etc.

I was going to answer your comment on the RFC, but I see it is now closed (thanks for putting it out of its misery) so, since I see you enjoy grammar, I'll just leave this link here, with some things about the use of "must". [1] This is an American English definition; if you scroll down to the bottom you can toggle to British. As usual, a seemingly simple and everyday word turns out to be not so simple when it comes to describing actual usage. As far as simplified usage of the Internet Engineering Task Force, I've looked at a lot of documents associated with it, and the specialized definitions seem to be used mostly to signal security protocols and requirements for vendors. Documents that use the specialized definitions (and I haven't seen anything that indicates it's limited to documents that originate in the U.S.) will also include a boilerplate table of contents that has a separate section for the definitions and a requirement for capitalizing the specially used words whenever they appear in a document. I should probably put together everything I have on the subject -- I think it's terribly confusing for the average user to see it introduced here -- but as usual, my wiki time ends up being very limited these days. Cheers. Neotarf (talk) 13:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)


Interesting, thank you. -Stevertigo (t | c) 05:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)


You taught me something I didn't know! Face-wink.svg Cheers. Salvio Let's talk about it! 23:00, 3 November 2012 (UTC)


Thanks. I'm sure I made that comparison in some other discussion before, but I can't remember where it was. Hut 8.5 16:04, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Congratulations on all the hard work on Wikipedia for over 10 years! :) CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 00:45, 17 November 2012 (UTC)


Happy New Year 2013.jpg Have an enjoyable New Year!
Hello Hex: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 15:59, 31 December 2012 (UTC)