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Again, welcome! Chris Roy 17:09, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Re: Canadian music charts[edit]

Thanks for your interest in the Canadian music charts. The current goal is to complete the outstanding RPM singles charts, mainly the 1960s and 1990s, plus some gaps in coverage for the on-line editions which will need some library research. Not sure what timetable I might have available for the other RPM charts, at least in the near future. Their general album charts seem like an ideal next priority. But there are other charts such as The Record which were also notable and could use some coverage in WP. Dl2000 (talk) 23:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree about The Record magazine and we should also include the Canadian Singles Chart (btw, there a list of the 1965 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number-one_hits_of_1965_%28Canada%29 which I doubt it's really the Canadian Singles chart, it could be the CHUM chart), btw what do you think if we could also post the Cash Box charts on Wikipedia? --Sd-100 (talk) 12:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
I looked into this as well, and it does appear to be the CHUM Chart. Bearcat (talk) 16:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Just so you know, when you create a navbox template for things like the album lists, you don't have to copy and paste the entire template into each article. All you have to put at the bottom of the articles is the name of the template within curly brackets, like this: {{Canadian Albums}}. Hope that helps a bit. Bearcat (talk) 16:38, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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Cashbox[edit]

Unfortunately, something being "interesting" does not justify it being on Wikipedia. There is nothing to suggest that it is notable. Also, see WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 22:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I guess you have a point but since there a list of number-ones hits in the Hot 100 and other charts of Billboard magazine, maybe Cash Box should desserve it, There is another talk then I was part of it on the subject at Talk:List of number-one hits (United States)--Sd-100 (talk) 22:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Billboard is the industry's source for music chart positions, and Cashbox is a fairly small-time publication, particularly in comparison to Billboard. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 22:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


The current incarnation of Cashbox is a small-time publication but as eo mentionned on the talk page of list of number-one hits, it was very notable until the 1980s. Maybe we should post a vote or a poll on the subject.--Sd-100 (talk) 22:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Billboard is the industry's source partly because it is all that remains and partly because it promotes itself as such. Wikipedia and other sources are falling into the trap of buying into that promotion by presenting it as the sole (or only notable) arbiter of the success of a recording in the U.S. The Cashbox magazine of the rock era ('50s through '80s) was quite notable. It was a national chart based at first solely on sales, and later partially on airplay, to judge the direct commercial popularity of a record with the public. In excluding (and later minimizing) airplay statistics, it circumvented the erroneous weighting of radio programmers who would sometimes give false airplay reports or play songs because they had been paid by a record label or promoter (see Payola). In this way, Cashbox could be considered a more accurate assessment of which singles were truly the most popular with the public, while Billboard could be considered less valid due to its incorporation of tainted airplay statistics which give a false perception about a song's success.
Even without Payola, Billboard's hype would have you believe that what is listed in its magazine is absolute fact. The fact is that it is a sampling system, not unlike political polls. We know how widely some of those can vary. This was particularly true in the pre-Soundscan era. Each magazine chose certain radio stations that it felt were representative of the various markets throughout the country; they chose retail outlets of varying sizes in locations of varying population; Billboard had at one time used sheet music and jukebox play to determine the main singles chart. At the end of the day, the best way to use a political poll is to average as many as you can take, because it gives you a bigger, broader sampling. Clearly this was the value of Cashbox to industry types in print then, and it is its value to researchers and fans here at Wiki now.
Those differences in point systems did wind up causing variation between the two charts. Virtually every single that did exceptionally well in one magazine's chart did exceptionally well on the other's, and a glance at a given week's chart in both publications might find them to seem close enough as to be redundant. Yet those singles which actually hit the enviable number-one spot often varied, and a glance at two lists which only show number-one singles (which is what we are discussing here) will show certain titles on one list that simply do not appear on the other.
Billboard itself acknowledges that its Hot 100 is not the end-all, be-all, insofar as it has taken to publishing literally dozens of singles charts each week (up from a total of 6 or 7 in the early '80s), and many of these are the subject of lists here at Wiki. This, too, is notable, insofar as it illustrates A) how the genres of music are splintering (yet often overlap), and B) how the music industry, in collusion with Billboard, will do anything to make it seem like their song is a hit somewhere with someone. I say this because it was during the period in the '90s when fewer singles were being released and sales had plummeted (in part due to the industry's push away from vinyl and their decision to promote album sales at the expense of singles) that additional charts began to be added in Billboard.
Finally, from an encyclopedic standpoint, there were many occasions during the rock era when an artist would claim that a song of theirs had hit #1; while a review of the Billboard list for that year might not show the title, and convince an editor under the spell of Billboard's hype not to include or to remove such a claim, a review of the Cashbox list would support such a claim.
On a side note to Sd-100, you are presenting these charts as the Top 100 singles of (a given year) when in fact they are those songs which hit #1 on the "Top 100 Singles" chart in a given year. Of course, the Top 100 singles would be a list of 100 different singles; your lists are 52-position lists of each week's number one. I've changed 1967 and 1969, and will likely get around to the others unless someone else does before me, but I wanted to give you a heads-up before you added further years' lists with the incorrect title. Use the title I have given the '67 and '69 lists, or offer a suggestion of a better way to phrase the title on this page, which I will watch for a while. Abrazame (talk) 08:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:RECORD CHARTS[edit]

I'd like to invite you to join the newly-formed Record Charts WikiProject. There's alot of Record Charts-related articles on Wikipedia that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help us get this project off the ground and a few Record Chart pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles. Thanks! --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 08:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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I've just tagged Pixia for maintenance for now, as Twinkle failed to create the AfD page. There appears to be a Japanese news article that mentions Pixia ([1], but I've yet to get a satisfactory translation to determine if it is "significant coverage". Let me know if you know of any other reliable source, thanks. Marasmusine (talk) 19:11, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Argentine Top 40[edit]

The Argentina Top 40 has no apparent relationship to CAPIF. It is an amateur chart that has been listed on WP:BADCHARTS for quite some time.—Kww(talk) 15:56, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

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Missing Canadian number-ones[edit]

If you have hardcopy's of the Canadian RPM magazine from October 1988 to April 1989, can you please fill in peaks of various songs on all the charts chart. The number-ones have been filled in but not the peaks of other songs. They are missing from the online archives. Thanks. Canadaolympic989 (talk) 14:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't have any hardcopy of the magazine RPM from Oct. 1988 to April 1989. I'm sorry for the inconvience.Sd-100 (talk) 14:23, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

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