User talk:Seglea

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Hello Seglea! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help, see Wikipedia:How to edit a page. You can also see how to format pages at Wikipedia:Manual of Style. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or post a question in my talk page. What do you mean by many genera in the squirrels page? Have a look in Apocynaceae for comparison :) A tip: when you write squirrels between the ]] nothing happens. Is you put the plural s outside the ]], like ]]s, the link is made. Cheers, Muriel Gottrop 20:34, 1 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Everything from "Hollerith" and "Hollerith card" is now appended to punch card. Edit away! -- Someone else 05:48, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC)

--- Thanks, Seglea, for the addition to the Flann O'Brien entry. I had forgotten Vico as de Selby. I had amending an extant entry as it was. Brian Nolan needs more justice. User:Geogre Jan 5, 04

Ho there Seglea. You described your last amendment to the Subic Bay entry as a date change. But you also added the word "when" to a sentence and made it ungrammatical when it had already been edited to make it grammatical. Which version do you really think is correct? Cheers Moriori 05:59, Nov 15, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind comments on Irish poetry. Bmills 09:18, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Are you OK with what I have done on Irish literature? Bmills 10:46, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Will add theatre and prose to requested pages. I have a to-do list of about 6 or 7 obscure poets I want to start. If nobody else has taken on theatre and prose by then, I may do the research myself. Bmills 09:40, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Just discovered I added them to requested pages a few days ago. Bmills 09:50, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Have started a draft for Irish theatre at User:Bmills/Irish theatre . If you have time, please drop by and tell me what you think. Bmills 14:23, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments and the pic on Wheatear. Although you're of course right about the sexual dimorphism, I've reworded because most wheatear species have black and white as the main male colours, and several have redddish rumps. Hope this is OK, Jim

just seen Kaikoura - my daughter's been there twice recently, and I've seen some wonderful pics, I'll get there one day!. Jim

Hi. On Municipal Government - does this term exist outside the US? We don't have it in the UK - we have local government. County Councils, Borough/district councils, unitary authorities etc. I added US because often articles on us topics have US mentioned anywhere. If you think you can make it broader good luck! Secretlondon 09:37, Nov 20, 2003 (UTC)

I would suggest moving the content to local government and making it a redirect. The terms overlap too much to need separate treatments... Morwen 09:48, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Good question, I think probably the Talk: page but anyway. Thing is, any discussion of Municipal government in the UK is going to have to explain parish councils, town councils (both ones which are districts and those which are really just parish councils with a posh name), unitary authorities, city-district councils, and metropolitan boroughs. Explaining the difference between unitary authorities and district councils will mean explaining administrative counties... So I dunno. If the info wants splitting up from Local government, it wants to be by country, but not level, would be my thought. Morwen 10:02, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Please don't delete the duplicate article header on Cattle until the articles are merged. RickK 05:54, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Good work on Cattle. RickK 06:36, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)



Thanks for bringing forward the exitence of duplicate IFF articles! Never occurred to me to search in a way that would find that one!

I had the following exchange with Bryan (rather than you), since he showed the earliest interest among us three registered editors. Do you want to influence the direction of what happens next? --Jerzy 19:43, 2003 Nov 21 (UTC)

I'd like to coordinate w/ you re IFF article: you may have noticed that i created one despite the one you worked on, and someone collapsed "yours" into "mine". I have two concerns:

  1. The more substantial history got disconnected from the article.
  2. The unofficial title is the article and the official is the redirect.
  3. The old article title is misleadingly described
  • I think i know how to repair #1, and would like the practice; if you don't follow what i'm talking abt, let's discuss.
  • As to #2:
    • IMO, the WP MoS recommendation should be no punctuation in article titles except hyphen, paren, & apostrophe; but include redirects to WP-std name where an outside standard or other common usage says otherwise
    • IMO, what it should be is irrelevant if cases like this have been anticipated in a previous consensus
    • IMO, #1 & #2 need to be corrected at the same time, not piecemeal
  • #3 is natural to fix as part of the above. --Jerzy 07:50, 2003 Nov 18 (UTC)
It looks like my only contribution to that article was to add a link and to remove a stray HTML tag that had no real effect on the article's display. I know nothing about how IFF works or anything like that, I probably just came across the article at random one day. So don't worry about coordinating with me, just do your thing and I'm sure it will be fine. :) Bryan 08:05, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Tnx, B; i'll go read up on the punc'n issue. --Jerzy 08:18, 2003 Nov 18 (UTC)

Tnx again. I know what you mean abt unmemorable editing; it's probably a fluke that i remember i got to IFF via toll road, via Interstate Highway i think, via Interstate 91. [smile] --Jerzy 20:57, 2003 Nov 21 (UTC)


Great Berkeley photo! Nice view too. Thanks for sharing photo. --Menchi 09:35, 23 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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"that" versus "which"[edit]

Thanks for dropping the kind note about US/British uses of "that" and "which". --nertzy

Re marbled godwit: you're welcome! I only learned how to do that a couple of days ago myself. I'm surprised it's not on more pages that seem to need it.  :) - Hephaestos 14:26, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Well, if you find a spare air ticket to South America lying around, you know who to call. :) Tannin

Thanks for letting me know about the "conditional" vs. "conditioned" reflex bit. Please add this knowledge to the Pavlov and operant conditioning articles... -- Karada 00:50, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Irish writing[edit]

Do you remember aan article on Irish writers in Irish where you left a note asking if the author would like to do Irish fiction? I'm trying to find it. Bmills 16:04, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, and for the compliment. Irish theatre cost me a lot of sweat, and the 20th century is very sketchy as the jury is still out on a lot of recent theatre. Bmills 09:21, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Thanks mainly to your kind remarks, I've completed the trilogy (or it has finished me!). See Irish fiction. Bmills 17:15, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Children's Lit[edit]

You removed the list of series because of another page - but you haven't actually linked to the new page. Varitek 15:25, 3 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Ta! Varitek 15:07, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

In the page on Synonymy, I refer to authors even when there are more than one. The thing is it is an author label, it should be highly standardised and it is when I use it. I added this entry on IPNI where I mention that there is a standard for author labels. I wonder if it would be a good idea to expand on that somewhere?

On Allopatry this is the technical term for what we wrote on Geographical isolation. I refered to it but should this be merged ? Thanks,


Good work on Nazarene it reads like a proper article now. Saved me from further improving it.

Reading your talk page you mention you are a specialist on animal behaviour. I've taken on the rather ambitious task of trying to create a good article on dolphin intelligence. I'd be interested on your comments/help on the work so far, and more critically any suggestions as to where to go for more information. I'm struggling to find good academic research on the internet to fill in the gaps in the article. :ChrisG 00:40, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

The article is called Dolphin Brain now because some science types - probably fairly - hated the new age nonsense of the original article on Dolphin intelligence. So they renamed it Dolphin brain to keep it on a strict and limited basis. I saw the controversy and dived in to add some proper information on dolphin intelligence, because it had become dry as dust and avoided any discussion of dolphin intelligence. These changes have been accepted it seems.
I've not bothered to split or rename the article, because I wanted to fill in the missing sections. Unfortunately I'm not at university anymore so I don't have access to a proper academic library to fill in the gaps, which rather hamstrings me.
I'll take off the under dispute reference, its just an old reference. No-one has made major edits for a while. : ChrisG 01:41, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Great work on Washoe! The earlier versions were alternately cringe inducing and teeth grinding inspiring. I didn't have the requisite expertise and factual references to have confidence to do anything comprehensive about it though. Thanks a lot indeed. -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen 08:44, Dec 11, 2003 (UTC)

Re: Brill. Don't get excited, it is only a tiny little place, no bigger than the villages that surround it. I have ancestry there, that's how come I know about it, but I don't think even some of the people who live there know of it's full history! -- Francs2000 19:03, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Nice to have someone else doing fish! You may or may not be aware that the capitalization of common names for fish is unsettled; it's semi-controversial for birds and mammals, but generally everybody has agreed to go along with the people who freak out over uncapitalized names. :-) I haven't been able to sniff out a consensus among the fish pros, and so have been leaving them lowercase because it'll be easier to do a mass move later if needed than to undo a mass move if that is needed. Stan 23:59, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)

(William M. Connolley 13:04, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)) Thanks for the scientific literature page.

Thanks for the welcome! The empty Sciurus niger link was actually what finally spurred me to join in the fun. An encyclopedia lacking in squirrels is a sad thing indeed. How about asking the creators of Scary Squirrel World for some of their photos? I'm not sure what the process is for that. It's not the most academic site, but there are some excellent photos of tree and ground squirrels. --Pollen 19:22, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

The images are all as claimed. The old clich&eacute about a picture being worth a thousand words is never so true as with bird articles. jimfbleak

Great Uprising & Indian Mutiny[edit]

hi seglea the "Great Uprising of 1857" is how the British have always referred to the Indian Mutiny in their literature and history. I have added a redirect to the page for the great uprising. It takes the user to the page on Indian Mutiny. I hope that is satisfactory. If you have further knowledge that would be very welcome.


Sorry about delay, I've been in Scotland. Re Turtle Dove, should be turtur as far as I can tell. I moved the turtle-dove biblical bit out of the bird article (where it originally formed the main content) because I thought it was inappropriate and archaic content for a serious article about a bird species. If you feel it needs to be merged, please cut it to the absolute minimum. jim

I think that your changes to Turtle Dove are fine. Liked your new articles, especially animal cognition too - Jim

Just a small apology. I uploaded a lightened version of your Kitt Peak pic (it was horribly dark on my monitor) but inadvertantly called it "much better quality". This was a mistake, I should have said "lightened". Adrian Pingstone 10:34, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi from Adrian in Bristol again.
I've looked at your website (the Az/Ca trip one) and I'm wondering if its OK for me to upload a few of your pics into articles? I don't know which ones yet, I just need to know that I can (or can't!). I would let you know which ones I've used, and acknowledge you on the Image Description page (the one seen by clicking on the picture). Of course, you might want to keep them for your own uploading, I would understand that.
If I use a few, do I say they are now public domain (as I say for all my own camera pics) or do you want to keep the copyright? Have a look at Supersonic transport and click on the pic to see how I do my acknowledgements. Wikipedia much prefers PD photos, of course.
Just for your interest, I have a very slight connection with Exeter Uni, my lad applied for a Business and Marketing degree there so I took him down the M5 to Open Day. My main memory is the problem of finding parking in the Campus!
In the end, he didn't quite get the A Levels they wanted so he's doing the "same" course at UWE in Bristol (only 10 miles from where we live).
I've a BSc from Bath in Electrical Engineering (but that was a very long time ago!)
Best Wishes Adrian Pingstone 20:15, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hello. When you create a new article on a statistical topic, could you add it to the list of statistical topics? Thanks. Michael Hardy 00:09, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the work on the Coral tree article--I'm anything but a botany expert, but I love those trees. They're everywhere around here. Bless ya and thank ya. jengod 06:06, Jan 18, 2004 (UTC)

Hi Seglea. I left some comments for you at: Talk:Ailanthus webworm.Pollinator 07:14, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Two letter acronyms[edit]

I'm working from the list of all two-letter combinations. Since it's much easier for me to find meanings for capitalized two-letter combinations, I am subsequently trying to find expansions for all 676 uppercase combinations. Denelson83 08:17, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Sorry I don't know much about herbal medicine. I just created that list of Medicinal herbs because I moved it from the List of herbs and spices page. It definitely belongs on a page about herbal medicine though, or something like that. I suggest you start a stub or something. Or if there is any other info on wikipedia about it, amalgamate it together. dave 17:29, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

"Managed Learning Environment"[edit]

Why are capital letters used in the article title Managed Learning Environment? Is this a proper name of a particular proprietary software package? Michael Hardy 21:14, 23 Jan 2004 (UTC)


Thanks so much for cleaning up that clam worm/bloodworm mess. I thought it was something like that but didn't have time to follow it up. Cheers. WormRunner 03:30, 24 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Cromwell current[edit]

  • Thank you so much regarding your comments on Cromwell current. I may add more similar pages soon. I will have a loon on ocean current as you suggested. may you have peace profound, Optim 19:23, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC) .'.
    • Cromwell is embedded in the South Equatorial Current, according to the webpage [1]. The South Equatorial Current is westward-flowing. According to the Guiness World Records, the Cromwell is eastward. The Cromwell is also called an "undercurrent". I suppose that it is flowing below the South Equatorial Current. Optim 19:36, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Traditional and style of cuisine recipes[edit]

Right, but do remember that not ALL recipes belong in the Wikipedia. It's mainly well known or traditional recipes or examples of styles of cooking which are appropriate here. It's always going to be a good idea to point to the recipe wikibooks project for a greater selection of recipes even where there's an example recipe in the encyclopedia - the cookbook will provide far more comprehensive coverage than the encyclopedia should. Jamesday 00:41, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Monkey Puzzle[edit]

I saw you put a link to Monkey-puzzle tree on Araucaria. Then I noticed there is a Monkey puzzle page already. I was just about to change the link, then thought you might have moving the page in mind, or were possibly unaware of it? WormRunner 07:08, 27 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Happy to be of service.  ;) WormRunner 07:32, 27 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on Lucy. -- Tarquin 16:32, 27 Jan 2004 (UTC)


Hi Seglea. A word of caution: for birds, ITIS is not a good source. I cannot comment on the accuracy of their other listings, but it's usually a pretty fair bet that an ITIS bird species listing will be highly idiosyncratic and probably out-of-date too. Much safer to use BWP, HANZAB, or one of the others recommended at Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds. (This is not to reflect on your recent change to Stilt - the only stilt species I can speak with authority about are the two Australian ones - but just so you know.) Cheers, Tannin

Quite so, Seglea. But, as you say, we certainly wouldn't want to phrase it as I did above. I'm hesitant to make a substantial change to ITIS as I lack the expertise. But I am reasonably familiar with the HANZAB listings, and from writing at this place, have learned a reasonable bit about several of the other major world lists: the ITIS bird listings are ... well ... "weird" is probably as good a word as any. But how does one express that? Maybe better just to take the bit about "information is reliable" out (as we know damn well that, at least for birds, it isn't) and say nothing? Tannin
Just to add that I've found ITIS an equally poor source for trees - MPF 14:25, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
The Idiosyncratic Taxonomic Information System? -- T
with regard to the stilts, HBW and the authoratitive Shorebirds treat them as races of Black-necked Stilt. To obtain a degree of consistency, I've tended to follow HBW and comment on potential splits in the main article. I think attention is drawn to the major revised Sibley-Ahlquist taxonomy where appropriate, and the regional lists follow the nationally approved schemes. Having said that, the sort of article you suggest may be useful.
The Sacramento NWR article is interesting. Unfortunately, I've not seen any of the missing species - User:Big iron is the NAm specialist, but I suspect they might be out of range for a Canadian too. On the whole, I'm doing articles for British birds and species I have seen, with the odd wander like the woodcocks, especially if there is a photograph. This probaly doesn't help much. Jim
Perhaps the best idea is to (a) do that page, and (b) do it in the Wikipedia namespace - that way we can work with a reasonably free hand, and don't have to be too paranoid about sounding POV. Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds has a reasonable start, perhaps we could work that up into an addition to the tree of life WikiProject. Tannin 05:37, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

When you have time, check out Requests for adminstratorship and respond. BTW I have read about this parrot called T'kisi which supposedly has better linguistic skills than any mammal other than man. The fly in the ointment appears to be that the claims do not stop there, but that there are also further claims that the bird is psychic! With such claims, it does become difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff, and I am thus hesitant to start an article on the cussed animal. -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen 08:56, Feb 1, 2004 (UTC)

Candlemas Edit conflict. I've just been working on this too, so I'll text dump it into Talk:Candlemas now, and you can improve it at your leisure, and then we can replace the currently flimsy entry. Wetman 00:42, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC) (Sorry. I hate an edit conflict. Didn't want to squash your stuff. Wetman 01:04, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC))

I don't know what I was going to say in Rallidae, so I deleted the half sentence. I liked White-tailed Kite, and the relationships seem fine to me. E. caeruleus is a favourite bird, especially as I've only seen three (never occurred in the UK). Jim

BTW, you might have noticed my mini-revert in Black-shoulded Kite. There are actually heaps of Australian native rodents: rats, mice, and (best of all) hopping mice. Wonderful creaturs! And, it seems, evolved to their current odd-ball shape quite recently. Rodents have been here for only ~5 million years. It's late and I won't count them tonight, but I'd guess 50 to 100 species. One of them, the Long-haired Rat is pretty much the sole reason for the evolution of the Letter-winged Kite, that extraordinary nocturnal raptor of the deep outback. They (LW Kites) live around Cooper's Creek and the Channel Country and exist on an almost exclusive diet of Long-haired Rats, which reach plague proportions after rain. The rats are nocturnal, so the LW Kites have to be nocturnal also. They aren't very good at it yet - better night vision than diurnal birds, but nothing like as sharp as an owl or frogmouth - but there are plenty of rats and they make out. In dry seasons - which in this part of the world can last for five, even ten years - they do it hard. In good seasons, they breed like crazy.

I'll write the kites up one day, and maybe I should do an article on the Australian rodents: they are little known and yet really interesting. The way that groups of closely-related species have sprung up, each one adapted to slightly different country (sandy desert, stoney desert, claypans, etc) is fascinating. Darwin would have found them every bit as interesting as his Galapagos finches if he's bothered to trvel inland instead of calling at a port on the horrible, steamy north coast and deciding he didn't like the place. Tannin


Hello, I'll give the class definitions a try, but must say that I don't think it will be easy to find definitions that are generally accepted. -- till we *) 15:01, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)


Thanks. Prynne is hard going, but a really interesting poet. He's so reclusive that it's hard to get any firm detail beyond publication dates. Have you read the British Poetry Revival article? I'll look at the English poetry page later today.

Have they made you an admin yet? Bmills 11:45, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

List of National Parks of Japan[edit]

Seglea, I made the list of the National Parks of Japan. Thanks, Pdxgoat


I just noticed, nice addition to take-out. --Dante Alighieri 18:51, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Prof. Lea,[edit]

More comments for you on Expository preaching.

Neilinoz 03:17, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)

You are now a sysop. Enjoy. Bmills 15:49, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)

English poetry[edit]

Thanks for the kind words. I hope to tackle the Victorians and the 60s and after tomorrow. Bmills 16:45, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I've pretty well done what I can for now. Hope you feel it's better than it was. Bmills 10:08, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Enjoyed the Brucies: the pdf is a fantastic external link! Who the hell was/is Bruce Patterson? Bmills 10:27, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I don't think an article should be on Featured articles on the Main page unless it has gone through the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates process first. Maybe you'd like to nominate it there? Charles Darwin has long been my favourite 19th century prose writer and his book on earthworms is my all time best prose book. Bmills 12:16, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Re: Pompeii worm[edit]

Thank you! I thought I'd take a break from fish for at least a day. :) To answer your question, there are actually nine species and two genera within the family. I've since made a page to fill the hole at Alvinellidae. I'm not comfortable writing an article on the entire order, however.

Should the small (two species) genus Alvinella have its own article, or should it simply redirect to Alvinellidae? Having researched the family a bit, I'm now unsure of the Pompeii worm's actual discovery date (I got the date from an Alvin crew/class room Q&A transcript).

Anyway, a belated congratulations on your promotion. I've admired your work whenever I've stumbled upon it; I was particularly impressed by your handling of the often confusing Pearl Oyster group. Cheers, Hadal 03:45, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Re: Nazarene[edit]

Good editing, to shape it up as you've done! Wetman 18:26, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Live Oak[edit]

Hope I didn't step on your edits with Live oak. I just woke up and am doing some editing over coffee (always a bit dangerous). I just so excited seeing that the page was finally taking form for it. It is a page worthy of a great tree. -- Decumanus 10:44, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Yes, that's a nice job - as usual, you've done great work. Pollinator 14:06, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've just moved Live oak to Southern live oak (with a few small edits), and am making a short disambiguation page of live oak to cover all the species so termed - hope that's OK! - MPF 11:27, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for the note; checked, looks fine - MPF 19:13, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Zaire Diana Monkey[edit]

Seglea - What source did you find that says it is a synonym? A did a few quick web searches and didn't find any such notation, although ITIS and NCBI don't list it at all. UtherSRG 13:45, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Eyebrow raising[edit]

I heard it on Radio 4. I don't think it can be that contentions because it's very easy to test. Just watch people as they walk by. Do you make eye contact? Do they raise their eyebrows? I tested the theory and found it pretty infallible. You could do the same and report your result. If you want authority, though, it's covered from a slightly different angle at The BBC and more in my vein along with other things at netdoctor Matt Stan 19:43, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Bush lupin pic[edit]

The pic at Bush lupin shows as a broken link - any chance of re-loading it? MPF 01:30, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks; I don't think anyone deleted it, my guess is it was lost in the server crash that Wiki had sometime back in February, there were quite a lot of pics disappeared in that. Did a few small edits on the two Arbutus pages, there weren't any major changes, but I've put in a few more range details, etc.; will give them another look-over.
PS there's something amiss with the sections on this page, when I click on a section link, it throws up the section above for some strange reason, had to click on Red Buckeye to enter this here - MPF 10:46, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Red buckeye[edit]

Hi Seglea, I'm looking for info on the local preachers. I may have to nail my pastor down to get it.... :o) Also on the Red buckeye - nice job! I wonder about the term hermaphrodite though. Isn't that primarily used for animals, while flowers are regarded as "perfect?" I'm not sure of the usage everywhere, just wondering. Pollinator 14:11, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Not too much wrong with your Galah "stub", my friend. I've written many a shorter and less accurate one myself. But I'll have a tinker, and poke around - surely I have a better Galah picture than that one? Tannin 10:44, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hello. That was an interesting addition to the Welsh hat article. I didn't know there was another meaning. Thanks. Deb 19:03, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I agree with you on Red-tailed Hawk. I think that this might be a juvenile, but there seems to be a patagial mark visible on one wing. It is a very nice photo. Big Iron 11:49 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Nice work on [pentachromat] and [trichromat] etc. --/Mat 21:27, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I'm a bit tied up this weekend, but I'll chase up hornbills early next week jimfbleak

Our de facto standard outside Oz is Handbook of the Birds of the World, which uses Ceratogymna. For consistency, I've changed the genus to this in all the relevant articles, but made sure (I think) that the synonym Bycanistes appears as well. This is bound to happen since different authors take different taxionomic views. Great White Egret has at least three generic names. Jim

cap or no[edit]

{sigh} Wanna weigh in on the subject? Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Capitalization of species common names again - UtherSRG 18:51, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Re: Milk thistle[edit]

I accept your position. Thank you for the correction!

PD or GFDL[edit]

I wanted to point out to you that the licence message in Image:StXavier.jpg is ambiguous. You either release it into the Public Domain, or license it under the conditions of the GFDL or other license. There is no "release to Public Domain under conditions", If you release into PD that's it, you don't have any right whatsoever to it, including putting conditions on its distribution, as the GFDL does. --AstroNomer 22:36, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Seglea. Tannin

Satin Bowerbird[edit]

Hi. I'm randomly curious - you mentioned having recently seen some research on the behavior of satin bowerbirds. That research didn't happen to be from a University of Maryland professor, did it? There's an animal behaviorist here who's always advertising for research assistants for a study on satin bowerbirds. Isomorphic 10:01, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks. Since I've asked, I'll take a look at the article now. :-) I don't actually know the professor or the research in question. I'm just aware of him because he's been posting listserve messages at least once a semester for years, looking for students to do observation. Now I'm curious what actually comes out of this. Isomorphic 20:11, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)


Hi Seglea - I'm happy for you to take over on this one, your ideas look good, except that what I'd perhaps suggest is for Geranium to be a ((msg:disambig)) page (rather than a redirect) with the two other names linked, and a brief summary distinction between the two. The content/pics currently at Geranium could be moved across to the two other pages as relevant - MPF 19:50, 10 May 2004 (UTC)


Hello Seglea. Sorry about the Tilden picture incident. I did some research and could not find any linkage between Charles and Samuel Tilden. Anyways, thanks for the funny story on the talk page! Thanks, ChrisDJackson 00:17, 11 May 2004 (UTC)!

ToL and Categories[edit]

Please weigh in: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tree_of_Life#MW_1.3_categories

Red Valerian[edit]

That particular misidentification is a very natural one since it is the valerian most people see. Some casual checking on the web showed several other sites, including a herbarium, with the same problem. Your Red Valerian article is great. Thanks! WormRunner | Talk 05:05, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for you nice comments about my changes to the commensalism bird paragraph. Sorry about the capitalization issue. I still think capitalizing words that aren't proper nouns looks goofy, but if it's a settled issue, I'm fine with it. And, yes, I'm new to Wikipedia. A person could spend all day working on this stuff, but I've got to get back to my real job.

Carmel tree[edit]

Hi Seglea, 'tis a Monterey Cypress, local native there. Did you see the photo I put in at Heath (habitat), you might recognise the location :-) Michael - MPF 09:11, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for the question. I find the DELTA database useful, as well as the Missouri Botanic Garden, for figuring out which genera fit in which families. The DELTA page for Hyacintheaceae [2] and the University of Missouri's page [3] place Chlorogalum in Hyacintheaceae, which is probably why I put it there. However, the Tree of Life page on Hyacinthaceae [4] says:

Enough evidence has accumulated to demonstrate that the North American genera Camassia and Chlorogalum can no longer be included in Hyacinthaceae (Pfosser and Speta, 1999). Instead, rbcL sequence data (Chase et al., 1995; Fay and Chase, 1996), trnL/F sequence data (Pfosser and Speta, 1999), as well as serological data (Cupov and Kutjavina, 1981) point to a relationship of these genera to Agavaceae, Funkiaceae, and Anthericaceae and not to Hyacinthaceae.

So there we are--hardly a 'done deal' on Hyacintheaceae. From what little I know, Liliaceae used to be much more of a monocot catch-all than it presently is, and both Agavaceae and Hyacintheaceae are in order Asparagales, not Liliales, which would argue against a taxonomic classification of Chlorogalum in Liliaceae. You may decide to explain the varying placements of the genus in your article, and explain why you make the call that you did, whatever that turns out to be.Tom Radulovich 05:35, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Soap plants[edit]

I was attempting to implement what I percieved as the Wikipedia:Manual of style's take on the matter when I changed the soap plant article title capitalization. It was a simple, one-time, helpful correction. Did you see my notice about such things? :) Anyway, if that's the case, I suggest you and the Plant People take the issue to, say, the Village Pump, for input on the matter.

Yeah, sounds good. Just keep people aware of issues, and ensure that redirects exist, in any event. :) - Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 03:40, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)


" Several distinct sects (at least one of which existing a century prior to the Christian movement) " If you do mean to make the introduction clearer, perhaps you'd disambiguate this very vague reference. Wetman 22:52, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)


I just added this to list of statistical topics? Could you do that when you create new pages on statistics? And add any others you know of that are not there? Thanks. Michael Hardy 17:54, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

License ?[edit]

Hi, could you give me the license of Image:Berkeleyfromclaremont800x600.jpg ? Thanks in advance. Tipiac 20:50, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC) from french wiki


On 17 February you did some editing on Antirrhinum. In the article you state that Antirrhinum majus is the only species in this genus. I cannot find confirmation of this fact. Several sites, such as the University of Hawaii and several others, such as this one [[5]] give around 30 different species in this genus. Can you show me where you got your information ? JoJan 20:36, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

A major rewrite was in order. A magnificent job ! JoJan 23:42, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)


I just wrote Common toad, but there is no category toad, although there is frog. Do you think one should be created or should I just put it in amphibian? Billlion 06:32, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Molecular Systematics[edit]

You wrote this excellent article in the beginning of this year. Since then, a new development has taken place : the use of DNA barcoding. This is the examining of the cytochrome c oxidase I (COI). I think this technique and its consequences could improve your article. I am referring to the following sources :

There are many more links available (see Google), but the above links give a good idea what this is all about. In my opinion, DNA barcoding should be included in the article of Molecular Systematics or be given a separate article if we want to be abreast of times. JoJan 12:25, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I've written the article DNA Barcode, as you suggested. You might take a critical look at it. Since I'm not a native English speaker, some rephrasing might be necessary, but I leave this up to you. JoJan 14:33, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Thanks Stephen. The article should be OK now. JoJan 08:24, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Category for Animal cognition[edit]

If it is all right with you, I would like to place animal cognition under the Category:cognition. Thank you, Ancheta Wis 01:48, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC) Done. I can undo this if you object. Thank you, Ancheta Wis 06:04, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Oskar Heinroth / ethology[edit]

I'm just revising the German wikipedia pages on some German ethologists and on ethological terms (such as Übersprunghandlung, Leerlaufhandlung) and some important parts of K. Lorenz (last week done). One of my best sources is a German 1992 book of Prof. Zippelius (Die vermessene Theorie), but it is out of stock at Vieweg Verlag - may be this information is helpfull for you. Greetings from Germany: Gerbil (this is the name of my account in de.wikipedia)

Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to...

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using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 most active Wikipedians, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles.

Nutshell: Wikipedia articles can be shared with any other GFDL project but open/free projects using the incompatible Creative Commons Licenses (e.g. WikiTravel) can't use our stuff and we can't use theirs. It is important to us that other free projects can use our stuff. So we use their licenses too.

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template (or {{MultiLicensePD}} for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

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Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} with {{MultiLicensePD}}. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. -- Ram-Man 18:08, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)


Hi Seglia. I'm considering moving the Rhizomyidae page to Rhizomyinae as part of the work I've been doing with the Muroidea. I haven't seen Rhizomyidae granted family status much in recent years except in some of the paleontological literature. I thought I'd give you a heads up on it since you seem to be the principle person involved with that page. --Aranae 08:04, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

Nazarene article[edit]

You might want to keep an eye on the article, it seems it is undergoing some major POVing again. Jayjg 02:07, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

British English[edit]

Over a year ago you added a comment about International English to the article British English, and I retained it when I did a reworking of the article with only a slight NPOV change of wording. However, recently an editor, one who actaully admits knowing nothing about International English has removed it. I attempted to replace it, with what I thought were cogent arguments, only to have the same editor remove similar material from International English and start unilaterally editing the article in other ways, all the while admitting ignorance about the topic.

I realize that you may not care much about this topic, as you have not been back to edit it, but would appreciate it if you could perhaps take a look at the article International English compared to the form I preferred which is now at User:Jallan/International English and perhaps indicate your opinions on the matter at talk:International English.

(I can understand not wanting to get involved.)

Jallan 07:30, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Hi. The image you uploaded, Image:FranciscanWallflower.jpg is currently missing and is used by an existing article. Please re-upload as soon as possible if you wish the image to still be used on Wikipedia. Note that the image has been listed on Images and media for deletion so you only have 7 days at this point. Thanks. RedWolf 04:21, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)

Folio (paper size)[edit]

Hi! Some time ago you wrote of foolscap paper that "Recently it has met more widespread use in some circles in the United States". Can you expand on this? Which circles? When? --Theo (Talk) 00:21, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Nazarene article[edit]

Hi. As you've edited the Nazarene article in the past, I was wondering if you could take a look at it again. An anonymous IP editor has been persistently attempting to re-write it in what I consider to be an highly POV and unattributed way. Any comments etc. would be welcome there. Jayjg (talk) 15:34, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vision question[edit]

I like your articles on color vision. I have a question for an article I'm working on, the source I'm using says that an amimal has black and white vision, is that exacty the same as being a Monochromat?--nixie 05:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the response to my question. The article is on the Tasmanian Devil, the source I had said that since they are nocturnal they rely most on black and white vision. As far as recent literature goes I haven't found anything that mentions specifically what range of colours it can see in. --nixie 03:58, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Adminship JoJan[edit]

Hi, Stephen. It has been some time since we've been in contact (I think it was the DNA barcode article). Now I've been nominated for administratorship. Even if this must be a very busy time for you with all those exams, could you express your opinion (for or against) at - Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/JoJan.

Thanks for your support. JoJan 08:47, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

C Lloyd Morgan[edit]

I just added dates and places of birth and death. They are there in the current edit so no problem. Thanks anyway. Arcturus 1 July 2005 17:28 (UTC)

Mudder vfd[edit]

I had been watching the vote for deletion on Mudder, and noticed that the vfd link on Mudder was a red link, but not Mudder itself. I wrote a note on the VfD page asking what happened, in case I somehow misunderstood the vfd process. Then I asked on IRC and was pointed at the delete log. This is in the delete log...

16:52, 28 July 2005 Seglea deleted "Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Mudder" (consensus to delete on VfD) I figured I should mention it to you. I think it was just an accident and delete got clicked on the wrong page. Thanks in advance. Atari2600tim 01:22, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Primates category rework[edit]

After some good discussion on the talk for WP:PRIM with User:Marskell, I've begun work on cleaning up category:Early hominids. Please come to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Primates/category rework to weigh in your opinion on what direction to take. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:13, 15 September 2005 (UTC)


Hi Seglea, this image is a candidate for speedy deletion, can you update it with copyright information? --Duk 18:01, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Duk, thanks for spotting that one, I've put the gfdl tag on now. seglea 23:45, 26 September 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for creating the page. Both content and form are right. Pavel Vozenilek 22:10, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Jane Jacobs[edit]

Hi Stephen. In case you're not watching Jane Jacobs, you might like to have another look at the talk page, where Markmtl and I are struggling with the POV criticisms you've already done some work on. Regards -- JimR 11:16, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Regarding English Poetry[edit]

Hello, Seglea. I am Maris stella. I think there is vandalism by someone in the article English poetry. Now, there have been following writings (and others):

Translations of classical poetry also became more widespread, with versions of Ovid's "Metamorphoses" by William Golding (stories of love, romance, and seduction) and Chapman's translations of Homer's "Illiad" and "Odyssey" (stories of adventure and glory in battle)among the outstanding examples.

Translation of Ovidius' "Metamorphoses" was done by Arthur Golding (1536-1606). "William Golding" might be a mistake of the original writer(s). Someone who wrote above sentences might not know the history of the English Poetry in details. He (or they) wrote: //Ovid's "Metamorphoses" by William Golding (stories of love, romance, and seduction)// --- "stories of love, romance, and seduction" ? Ha? Almost meaningless explanations. "Homer's "Illiad" and "Odyssey" (stories of adventure and glory in battle)" -- Haa? Doesn't he/she really know the Illias and the Odysseia by Homeros? Just a nonsense. I think these nonsense explanations and writings should be reverted. However I am not a native English user and cannot judge whether they are really vandalism or not. How do you think these nonsense writings? --Maris stella 16:04, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree with you both that the latest version was nonsense: it read like someone's misremembered lecture notes. I've reverted it to the old version (and fixed it up slightly) as suggested. As it is outside my period, I can't actually vouch for its being completely accurate, but it looks reasonably accurate now. Since some errors (like the Golding name) have proven surprisingly long-lived, however, might it still be worth considering some kind of fact-checking process, perhaps through the poetry wikiproject? — Haeleth Talk 22:02, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

G-test (reprise)[edit]

Hi Seglea, I've just noticed that a function I wrote to conduct G-tests in R is linked to in the G-test article. I noticed this as I ponder how to reply to an email asking me how to cite this function. It would be nice to find it a better, more citable, home than my own webpages (I sent it off to the R developers years ago, and they don't seem interested in including it in the R distribution). I just glanced at the proceedures for packaging it and submitting it to CRAN, too much work for my immediate schedule. I'm wondering what you think of including the R code on wikipedia, or a sister project? Pete.Hurd 20:40, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


I've tagged Image:McCluresBeach.jpg as GFDL-presumed; when you have a moment, it'd be nice if you could retag it as GFDL just to totally clarify things. I also looked through your uploads to make sure they all were properly sourced and tagged, it looks like they are. Thanks so much for all your uploads; the're really great! JesseW, the juggling janitor 05:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


I just wanted to tell you that I liked your picture of a puma so much I added it as my desktop background for my PC. Great camerawork!--ÑøζζłεΜαńFile:Homsar small.png 15:30, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


Hello and thank you for your message. It is a complicated issue, personally I think "X River" is a better form (I am not American thank god, btw), it is also probably accepted by much more people. All African rivers here are in the "X River" form, all Australian, all Asian etc. Maybe we should hold some poll about naming. Actually it is a quite clearer issue than with the lakes. - Darwinek 18:03, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Infoboxes for German towns[edit]

Hi, you posted a question about translating infoboxes of German towns on Talk:Horb am Neckar. You can use Template:Infobox Town DE for that, see the talk page for explanation. Markussep 16:33, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


Hi Seglea, this image says it was taken by you, and I see you've got it on your user page too. Just wondering why it is so low-res, and why you were not the uploader? Did you perhaps upload it to en.wp and someone else transferred it to the Commons? Thanks, pfctdayelise (translate?) 13:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Cool. It's a pretty amazing picture. en.wikibooks is using it for a kid's book on big cats. :) It would be great it you could upload the hi-res version (preferably on commons:Image:MountainLion.jpg, if you have an account there that is > 4 days old, otherwise do it here and I'll transfer it). Thanks, pfctdayelise (translate?) 17:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


Hey Seglea, thanks for the work you did keeping Betta and Siamese fighting fish separate. I'm working on the genus a bit these days... Tkinias 08:42, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Hola. I wrote articles for B. pugnax and B. picta, with whatever material I could find on line (including JSTOR); I hope that will help people understand that Betta != B. splendens. When I get a chance I'll do writeups on the threatened species, although they're likely to be very stubby (unfortunately). Regrettably, I'm not neary my university library until autumn, and it appears that the ichthyological journals (and aquarists' magazines) are not readily available on line, so my sources are limited... Tkinias 23:43, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Your edits to CSS (disambig)[edit]

You recently made an edit to the CSS article with the reason "turn into disambig" (diff), but the article already was a disambig page with many more links than after your edit. Was it your intent to clear the page? If this is the case, your edit message wouldn't have made sense. I can agree that the old page was cluttered, but clearing it out completely is not a good way to improve things. I'll rever the edit for now - please supply a better reason if you had any reasons for doing it. I'll be watching this page, so you can respond here. -- intgr 20:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, sorry, I've been trying to clean up this area... When I found it, CSS took you straight to Cyclic Steam Simulation, which isn't sensible as the most likely meaning is Cascading Style Sheets - and most of the links seemed to be looking for that meaning. So what I've done is to make CSS into a proper TLA disambiguation page, and get rid of CSS (dismabiguation) which had nothing linked to it at all. I think you probably saw it when I was in the middle of the process, at which point it wouldn't have made sense. Let me know if you disagree with this strategy. Note that in every other language wiki except Czech, CSS is the disambig page. seglea 20:11, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
ho, I've just had another look and CSS is MUCH more substantial than when I looked at it. I think I must have caught it mid-edit. What you've done is obviously fine and is what I was trying to get to. I'll put Cyclic Steam Simulation onto the list of "Other" meanings since it seems pretty obscure to me. seglea 20:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok, it all makes sense now -- apparently all this mess was caused by User:Pierre Bergey (talk | contribs) who changed the CSS disambiguation page into an article about Cyclic Steam Simulation (diff). I've notified the user about it. Although anyone could've made the mistake you did, but please remember to see the history of a page before making such changes the next time. :) Now that we've got all the history of the previous CSS disambig page moved to Cyclic Steam Simulation, do you think we should attempt to switch (move) them back? -- intgr 20:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:Lakeyellowstonebig.jpg[edit]

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minimalist source info now added - this image needs moving to Commons some time. seglea 18:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

English poetry FAR[edit]

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Regarding your comment at Image:Gagea probably bohemica seglea.JPG, Proyecto Anthos lists three species of Gagea in and around the Sierra Nevada: G. granatellii, G. nevadensis and G. polymorpha. They seem to treat G. bohemica as "G. saxatilis", which is not recorded for the Alpujarras. Unfortunately, I haven't got access to any flora of the region, so I can't comment on the morphology, but the distribution seems to argue against G. bohemica. --Stemonitis 14:56, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Section removed in preparation for improvement[edit]

Woot! Go for it! That bad boy needs a rewrite! - UtherSRG (talk) 18:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Albert Russel Erskine[edit]

I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate the Albert Russel Erskine stub. I am the one responsible for the necropolitic madness over at Maple Hill Cemetery, and thanks to you, there's one less red link on the list of notables (and a big one)! —LonelyPilgrim 19:46, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


Hello. Great improvements to the belles-lettres article. I liked the paragraph explaining its modern usages. Would you mind elaborating upon the Men of letters article (which redirects to a section of the Intellectual article). I'd like to understand a little better what a man of letters was, and is currently today, and you seem to be knowledgeable in these things. If you don't mind of course. Best, BillDeanCarter 00:52, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Very interesting. So men of letters weren't usually creative writers... but more chroniclers of the culture at the time. I might have to follow-up and read one of those books you suggest.-BillDeanCarter 02:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Jehning Family Lock Museum[edit]

I speedied it because it seemed to be too promotional in nature (WP:CSD#G12). Feel free to recreate it with a more encyclopedic tone and with sources, and I'll restore the history if it looks okay. --Coredesat 02:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Spam in Die Welt[edit]

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What does your Chadwick reference refer to? If it's that Irenaeus identified the four gospels as canon, that's common knowledge. It it's that there's any evidence that they were all four accepted as canon before I., then I'd like to know what Chadwick says. Jonathan Tweet 15:29, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Got it. Jonathan Tweet 15:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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I was impressed by the organization of your website. The tables and coloring make it very easy to parse, read, and navigate. Most link-filled websites are quite a headache. --AaronRosenberg 15:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Animal Cognition page[edit]

I think I know your name too.... Yeah we have to do something about the animal cog page, the relative intelligence section is crazy... I was about to five up, but let us both see what we can do. Dbrodbeck 03:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Some nice work on the animal cog page. If you are going to CO3 this year we should both bring this page up at the business meeting, what with more people using wikipedia etc. Dbrodbeck 22:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Well I will be at CO3, so I will do my best to bring it up at the business meeting and talk it up in general.Dbrodbeck 02:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


Since this old PD tag is deprecated, I am wondering if you are willing to update it? Thanks. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Starcity.png)[edit]

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Crow Lake[edit]

Thanks for expanding this article; I think its a very good book, especially the ending which I found very moving: I guess I should have seen it coming but I didn't... Thanks again GrahamHardy (talk) 16:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

GR 59[edit]

I know nothing about it. Go right ahead.... Bearian (talk) 21:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


Mr. Lea,

Please could you convert the refs to citations for this edit of yours? I hope it won't be too much trouble! --Adoniscik(t, c) 23:38, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


Hello. Thanks for creating that stub, every geographic location deserves own article. The convention, loosely defined but wide in use is, that we use "River X" only for rivers in the United Kingdom. Other countries use "X River" or just "River". This convention should be included at Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers for example. I agree it sounds sometimes quite weird, especially for rivers of Lithuania and similar countries but we use this standard. - Darwinek (talk) 17:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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Taylor's Mistake[edit]

Hi Seglea; I wanted to comment here since it is off-topic at Talk:Douglas_Squirrel. May I know if and when you write the article, please? I can't imagine a stronger candidate for WP:DYK. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 05:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


You were an early contributor to the subject if not the creator. There is now a revived discussion of the article, and your participation would be welcome. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 20:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Not only is there revived discussion, it is vigorous discussion. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 16:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I've been and had a look and done a bit of housekeeping on the article - though it is pleasing to see that in good wiki spirit, although the discussion is vigorous, the article is still quite tidy. seglea (talk) 21:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
  • I believe you actually created the Article. Is this correct? If you did, I assume you have some personal interest in Cana and it´s significance for people of faith. You are aware John, reputed to be the Disciple Jesus loved, has a take on him somewhat different from the other three Gospel writers.

I was hoping for a discussion on this, as I felt my edit was an effort to provide a framework in which to discuss the need for more wine and the miracle. I believe this was the beginning of his Public Ministry by the preponderance of information available. This is being disputed, and I would like to see knowledgeable and informed Editors on the subject engage in the discussion. I have been searching for a reliable verifiable source but have been unsuccessful so far.

Weddings at the time were not the one day event as it is currently practiced in Western cultures. Relatives came from distant lands to celebrate such an important event. Also, being a Family reunion, a marriage celebration could last a month. The more relatives showing up, the faster the wine runs out.

I read about this a long time ago in a book or magazine, or I would not have put it in the Article. I forget where I read it. That may have been 30 years ago or more.

On a personal and Wikipedia basis, I would like to know your thoughts on whether it would aid the reader, both religious and non religious, to put the event in perspective. Peace.

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 23:18, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

So far as I can recall I did start this article, though I can't remember why. Probably I put a link to it into another article and found it turned red, so I provided the missing article since it was within my competence to do so. Given that, my view on what needs to be said about it in a general encyclopaedia context can be gauged pretty accurately from the state of the article after my initial series of edits; most of what I have done to it since has been an effort to stop it being hijacked by one or another eccentric POV.
While what you say about weddings in 1st century Palestine is quite likely given what we know about customs in comparable societies, I don't know of any biblical, other documentary or archaeological evidence to support it, so it probably does not belong in the text of the article.
It is certainly a longstanding tradition that the turning of water into wine is the beginning of the public ministry of Jesus, and it would be useful to point that out in the article (I have a source for it), and I'll do that. However, given the difficulty of reconciling John's chronology with that of the synoptic gospels, I don't think that this tradition should be stated as fact. What is fact is that it is the first miracle of Jesus mentioned in John, and that is where we should start from.
As to why the wine ran out, I think that speculation on that point would be out of place in the encyclopaedia, given that the weight of scholarly opinion (right back to the time of the formation of the canon) is that the fourth gospel is not reliable as history. And while it's always worth pausing to ask why the oral tradition has happened to preserve this or that point of detail, or the evangelists have chosen to do so, I don't believe it has any significance in this case. It seems to me that it is a sufficient explanation for it that the evangelist needs to set the scene for Jesus to perform this particular miracle. It's the inclusion of the miracle in the gospel that is worth discussing (remember how at the end of John there is the statement that the events reported have been carefully chosen from a much wider body of material). That is, what would be useful would be to explain what the role of this sign is, and how it is interpreted, within the context of the other great signs in John - but that's a task for a better johannine scholar than me. seglea (talk) 22:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Ho hum. I've just found a perfectly good source (the article on weddings in the HarperCollins Bible dictionary confirming your statement that weddings in NT times would have lasted a week. But I still don't think that it belongs in the present article - more likely in Marriage at Cana. seglea (talk) 22:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the time you have taken to answer my queries. I confess I am weak on all the intricacies of Wikipedia, particularly proper sourcing. I was unaware there is another Article on the same subject. Perhaps the two Articles should be merged rather than exist as separated but related subjects. Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 16:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I didn't realise there was a parallel article either until recently. (This is a very common Wiki phenomenon because of the way articles get started, and even experienced editors do it all the time - you put in a cross-reference, find the article doesn't exist, and write a stub - and only later find there's a perfectly fine article with a slightly different name or emphasis.) And I agree there would be a case for merging them, though they fit into rather different category structures within Wikipedia. Proper sourcing is a necessary but painful process - it so often happens that what "everyone knows" starts by being horribly difficult to document and ends up by being not actually true. And again, this happens to the most experienced of editors. However the great thing about Wikipedia is that other editors will often supply what you couldn't find, so the thing is not to be discouraged. seglea (talk) 18:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
  • When controversy erupted over my very 1st attempt at editing Wikipedia beyond my own autobiography, I contacted not only you, but all the early contributors to the Cana Article for their opinion. Besides yourself, only one other replied. Following links, I´m speculating that editor arrived at a BLP where I am the subject, and immediately tagged it with AfD, for the 2nd time in less than two weeks after a Keep was reached.

I understand Editors have so many requests to read this or that, words could become a blur after a while. In rapid reading to glean the significant highlights, Editors can miss more nuanced and subtle writing no less significant.

Hopefully you will be willing to read more here: User_talk:Clinkophonist#Ray_Joseph_Cormier and post your opinion here:


Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 07:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

hmm, seems to be a bit of a bother here. I have been in and added my vote in favour of keeping the article. It isn't good Wikiquette (and if there isn't such a word, there should be) to edit articles about yourself, though. seglea (talk) 14:11, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Thank you. I agree I should not edit the BLP which I haven´t since the old version as of July 22, 2008. I have been standing by for 8 months waiting for any Editor to take an interest in improving it. On the substance, I agree with you. It IS weak. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
  • I obviously have much to learn in sourcing and encyclopedic style writing, but I am pleased with the latest edits you made to the article. Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 13:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
  • UPDATE I thank God after waiting over 8 months for any Editor to take an interest and improve the BLP, one has finally come forward and followed through with the intention. He has all the original references in hand and more. This is his first Section and he got it right. More to come: User:Sarcasticidealist/Cormier

Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 20:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

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Hello Seglea,

I am trying to locate the person who posted the photo of the statue of William S. Clark. The caption of the photo reads. ""Boys, be ambitious!" Statue of Clark on Hitsujigaoka observation hill, Sapporo" and is located on the page: (second photo down). I am helping to put together a book in which we want to include this photo, so we are looking to contact the photographer and ask permission to use the photo.

Your name popped up under the page's edit history, so I was wondering if you had any further information about the photo. You can reach me at

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